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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bigheart, Upper Hunter. Hello, I'm Darren Katrudi. On this episode,
I want to talk about growing things. While it is
the season for planting and reaping loads of fresh vegies
out of the backyard garden, I'm thinking about something on
a much bigger scale. One town here in the Upper
Hunter is about to become home to a community nursery
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that will eventually grow thousands of trees. The Murraywall Community
Nursery is the idea of Upper Hunter Land Care. Paul
McLane looks after things for them here in the northern
parts of the Upper Hunter. He says, this new initiative
started growing in people's minds several years ago.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
The community nursery idea.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So that came up because during the pandemic, obviously a
lot of people couldn't couldn't get out of their local
government areas, and there was a lot of restrictions on
what people could do both. One of the staff members
that Upper Under Council realized that people could actually get
outside and do a bit of them, do plant propagation,
and still be within the restrictions. So we ended up
doing a plant propagation workshops in Mery War under the
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title of Green Thumbs got a whole heap of plants
propagated for that, and it's because the bushfires bushfires had
been had been through so previous to that, there'd been
some funding put out for community nurses to be developed,
and so we put in an application with the Foundation
of for National Parks and Wildlife and then some got
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some funding to develop it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And Merrie War is one.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of those one of those places where there's a lot
of people very keen on gardening. There's quite a few
good horticulturists of that part of the world, and it
was just a great idea.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
What was grown by these Green Thumbs.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We ended up getting about two and a half thousand
plants grown from there. A lot of those went to
the sarriv And Fire Rehabilitation project. So following the Fong
the surviving fire of twenty seventeen or eighteen, there was
some there was funding funding around to put to replant
and we got there grew a lot of a lot
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of plants for that, and that was those plantings were
actually undertaken by the Blaze Aid which was the very
very first revegetation project. So the Green Thumbs has actually
tied in tiding with a few projects and it's been
been quite quite successful.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Fast forward to this this new idea. Was that something
that you guys came up with at Lane Care or
was it, I suppose a follow through on community interest
to keep doing something.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, it was a follow in from community interest. We
have I've got a few a few fellow collaborators. So
it Tash taf from Upper Hunting Council of cap'n Conrad
was at Local Land Services and Julia Hardy from them
from Marywall. My the people that my people were discussing
it all with, and we've we've found the founder, funding,
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got the got the grant for it, and the fund.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The fund bit was then.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Finding and finding an appropriate site to put the nursery.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I believe you have identified a site. Can you just
explain a bit more about where it is and the
size and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Okay, the site is that it's at mary Wall. It's
at the back of the old or sorry, at the
back of the oval, so right where there was some
there were some old netball courts up on the hill there,
which as far as we were able to ascertain, hadn't
been used in about twenty years. And so that's going
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to end up being roughly nine hundred square meters on
the site there.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That was.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We had looked at another site which was nearby, which
would have been quite good, but unfortunately there was a
few contamination issues there which would made it to fairly
cost prohibitive to work on it. So the site where
it is, it's near the near the silos, near the
near the railway station, near the oval, right next to
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the right next to new path around play. So it's
a pair fairly, fairly well located for being a bit
of an attraction for them for merry war.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Now, when it comes to growing things, jeez, the choices
must must be amazing. Where so how do you decide
what you actually are going to grow in this nursery?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Oh, you're right, you're definitely right about about the choices
being amazing. Just a little bit of a little bit
of crivia. I mean, the upper Hunter Alerga has about
ninety four species of wattle naturally occurring in it out
of the New South lawest total of about two hundred
and thirty five. So it's huge, huge diversity. Obviously, there's
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there's a lot of there's there's a couple of dozen
affairly at regular plants which we know people are going
to are going to need and certain a lot of
a lot of the grassy box woodland species, lot of
things which are which and things for rehabilitation and things
for rip aerian areas, as well as a few little
few pretties.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
For the for the garden.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But the choice for the choice in the Upper Hunter
is is they're huge and quite often it'll be a
check beare case of we happen to find find a
suitable suitable speed in seed or looks looks good and
will plant it and see what don see.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
People like it.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So there's a bit of a bit of experimentation, but
there's also there's also the old old favorites which which
you keep growing.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
When it comes to that, I suppose the term native
is the brief native to the Upper Hunter or just
native in Australia.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Pretty much native to native to the Upper Hunter, because
there are there are so native so Australian native plants
which do become which can become weed issues when brought
when brought to other areas, I think, and for me,
I think the variety that we've got within the within
the Hunter is pretty much as good as anywhere else
in the in the country really, and that's a real
shame that that we're not actually growing more often and
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promoting these species.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
They so great.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
What will actually happen with these these these plants that
are growing and is there a sort of a number
of how many you expect to or hope to grow?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Okay, I think that in the first or so we'd
like to get about ten thousand plants out, which is
a relatively more discoal, but certainly we'd like to lie
together so twenty to thirty thousand plants per year.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We want.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We want the nursery to be basically a self funding
once it's once it's.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Up and running.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
But there's a lot of there's a lot of need
for plants for rehabilitation and reef vegetation works. So we've
had we've had a few discussions with local land services
and the Soil Conservation Service and others. So we're looking
at looking at working working with them, finding what they need,
growing growing stuff for them, and also growing for the community,
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any any community group which is after which is after
plants we can we can hopefully supply supply forward them
at a good price.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is there an element of this that for instance, will
be growing species that can be used for further rehabilitation
worker I mean the damage from things like this Ivan fire,
you know that that just you know, I imagine would
sort of be quite extensive.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Oh absolutely, I mean most as you said, most of
them aren't our local species, so they're going to be
going to be used for things like ye soil stabilization,
Rypaian stabilization, habitat enhancement.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We've got a we've got a bit of.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
A project going at the moment of attempting to get
a big vegetation corridor running between the Dark and Tops
and Coolertops National Parks, and so we'll be running doing
a lot of Poto Koila.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Food species for those.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
So there's a there's a lot of potential there and
it's going to get tily in Colong with so many,
so many projects of ours and go for other people's.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Still to come. Paul mu Lane explains who can get
involved in the Murraywall community nursery and do you need
to know your wattles from your gum trees. I heart
alba Junta, I heart Albajata. Welcome back. I'm Darren KATRUPI
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and I'm talking with Paul Mulane from Upper Hunted Lame
Care about the creation of a new community nursery at
mary War. Paul says locals are keen as muster to
get things started. Is there much much interest from the
local community to well put their gloves on and use
their green thumbs like they did previously?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh, absolutely certainly so. During the during the time we've
been going through the through the planning, through the planning
process with people have been been pushing us to pull
our finger out and get things, get things going. And
the response on the response on social media when when
I announced it was very heartening. There was some really good,
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really good response there and there's a lot of people
who are quite interested. So we're looking at looking with
working with community groups. We could possibly do some work
for the schools and and others. It's going to be
a great facility there for people.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, you I suppose still have a staff or a
staff member that manages it, or is it is the
intention to sort of hand it over Hulcus Folcus to
the community at some.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Point, No at the moment, certainly for the next for
the next few years, but hoping to well, hoping to
get me there a couple of a couple of days
a week to keep things, keep things ticking over and
then working with a community and we'll see how I
see our things, how things go. So hopefully we'll be
able to give enough enough funding going through to keep
keep someone employed there for a couple of days a week,
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just as just a manage that managed to site to
make sure it's make sure it's all working and the
communities and can come in and come in and the system.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Do you need to have specialist knowledge or skills to
volunteer your time as a community member or could it
be as simple as I don't know, just just bordering
seed links?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Oh no, no, no special no special skills required need.
I can easily teach, easily teach people what they what
they need to, what they need to do. We I
was I didn't run a training course in the mary
Ward a couple of years ago through through the Upper
Hunter Tafe. So we have trained a few people and
I have a bit of a background in training as well.
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So if people want to if people want to come
in and so poor weeds, that's fine. If they want
the water, that's fine. They want to pop up, that's great.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
If they want the poor weeds, I reckon. There's a
few people around town that nominate their yards as well.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
From yeah, yeah, yours, yours and mine both. Yeah, there's
one of the one of the issues with nurseries is, yeah,
there are there are a number of weeds which do
which do pop up, and you do have to maintain
your plants and try to try to keep the keep
the nursery hygiene pretty pretty good.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But yeah, if they want to poor weeds will will happen.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Nursery hygiene I can't say that's a term I've ever
heard before.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well within within nurseries. And obviously you get you get
weeds moving, weeds moving around the place, so you need
to you need to make sure that you're not you're not.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Transferring weeds or not transferring seeds.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
So any plan which come in, which come into a
nursery from somewhere else may may be contaminated by by
weed seeds, so you want to try to keep them,
keep them separate from your your good ones. You've also
got to look at things like things like diseases and
all those kinds of things. So there's a there's a
range of procedures which you try to try to keep
so you're not actually producing weeds or diseases into it.
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So there is a there is a bit of a
hygiene hygiene that needed in them.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
When do you hope to get this up and running?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
What's the plan?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Okay, Well, hoping hoping to get things get construction started
in the next couple of weeks. We've been through all
the all the planning process, which has taken quite a
quite a long time. But you're hoping to get a
constructive destruction started in the next few weeks and really
hopefully hopefully ready for ready for action early next year.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
When you say construction, is is there like some basically
some fences going up and that sort of thing, or
more just like glasshouses.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, there's there's a fence. There's a fence to go
around this, go around the site, the b shipping container
there as well as there's a hothouse hothouse in a
shade house which are in which are in kit form
and they just need assembling and basically bolting to the
ground and irrigation needs to be needs to be connected,
a couple of couple of plotting benches, all that usual
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kind of thing, and it's nothing nothing really major construction,
but you don't want to do on the rust things.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So tell us a little bit about Upper Hunter land
care and what what sort of other activities that you
I suppose deliver here.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Okay, Well, I'm so part of the Hunter region land
Care Network. So we've got got coordinators across the Hunter.
So I'm in the Upper Hunter, Megas, Meg's in the
middle in the Middle Hunter and Stacey's down in the
Old Hunter. We work with work with community groups to
look at look at environmental issues such as revegetation, grazing management.
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You've you've got dung beetle workshop coming up on the
second of November at mccumley's Gap, as well as doing
other training workshops. There's a training workshop at Wamumbai on
the tenth of tenth of November and the seed Collection
workshop in Denman on the sixteenth of November. So we
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work with the community groups, find out what their what
their needs are and so try to try this to
tie them, try to help them, help them obtain funding
or point them in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Of right people who talk to you about their about
their issues.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Just finally, what do people do if they're either experienced
ord no novice and want to put their hand up
to help with the community garden in mary Wall. What's
the best way to well put their name forward?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Okay, well there's a couple of ways of a couple
of ways of doing You can keep them keep an
eye on social media. Hunter Region LANDKRE network has facebook page.
We also have website which a hunter Landcare dot org
dot au. They're pull it the best way to keep
up on what's what's going on. Or they can flick
me in the email at Upper hunter landke at gmail
dot com. It's all one word lowercase click me and
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ammill through there and tell them, tell them what's what's happening.
But keep an eye on our social media for updates
and when when you're meeting people.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
The merry Wall Community Nursery is bound to be a
big success. The town's residents indicating a lot of support
for the project, Proof of the Old saying from little things,
big things grow. That's a wrap on this episode, thanks
to support from the New South Wales government. I'm Darren Katruvi.
See you next time.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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