September 12, 2024 • 17 mins
There's not much that unsettles Troy Stolz - whistleblower, gambling reform advocate, cancer combatant.
Now he believes the residents of the Upper Hunter could do with his straight talking style in local council, so this is what he stands for.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
iHeart upper Hunter.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It was vicious and it was a message shut up,
keep your mouth shut, and anyone that takes on us
bought the absolutely hammered good.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ay.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm Garren KATRUPI my guest today is one tough cookie,
a bloke whose reputation has been built on the premise
of calling out what he believes is just not on.
If you google Troy Stoles, the first thing, the second thing,
the third thing you get me a drift is that
Troy is a whistleblower and an advocate for gambling reform.
(00:34):
He exposed his former employer, Club's New South Wales for
corruption relating to poker machines, and despite doing the right thing,
Troy Stoles was then hauled through the cords for four
years as Club's New South Wales tried to silence him.
Even billionaire James Packard described the pursuit of Styles as
relentless and unethical. Troy then realized he needed to be
(00:56):
in politics to get things changed, so at last year
stayed a lie. Stoles ran as an independent up against
now Labor Premier Chris Min's in the seat of Cogra.
But not even Stoles could gamble with a major health
bolt from the blue when he received a stage four
cancer diagnosis and he and his family decided a move
to mary War might be what they needed. Well, that
(01:18):
didn't last long. Since arriving in town, Troy Stoles has
watched from the sidelines the dramas surrounding Upper hunter Shire Council.
Troy reckons the region could definitely do with having someone
with his skills and straight talking on the front line
of local community decision making, whether it's the council election,
his health issues or his battle with the big player
(01:39):
of the gambling industry. Troy Stoles has bucket loads of bravery,
brave or silly one of the two.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm not sure which which one applies, maybe both. I've
become aware of information over a period of time. It
wasn't a five minute thing. I reported it in turn
and it fell upon deaf years basically, and it's one
of those things that lands in your lap, and you know,
(02:08):
the standard you walk past is the standard you set.
So yeah, I felt I had to do the right thing.
I knew it wouldn't end pretty, and yeah, I still
I persevered with it internally and when I got.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No response other than to shut my eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's when I went to Andrew Wilkie, the Tasmanian MP,
the A B sit in the Sydney Morning heralds so
and I think, you know, if I see the same
thing in council, you've got to enact on that. And
I'm and you owe the community to share that information
(02:51):
you have. It's it's a sense essential that you don't
walk past that did.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Any time though you sort of think, look, isn't worth
the personal cost? I I think this will bring or
did you not really know what the personal cost was
going to be until after their fate.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I knew that there would be there'd be retaliation. The
organization and the industry is ruthless, and I'd witnessed during
a decade two stint decade with the organization and the
industry that the likes of Nick Xenophon and Tim Costello
(03:32):
were always in their headlights and.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Targeted, so I knew there'd be a backlash.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I probably underestimated what would come dragging my wife in
and the stories that were made up along the way,
but it was really refreshing and rewarding when the New
South Wales Crime Commission did their inquiry in the poker
machines in New South Wales and basically came up with
(03:59):
the same information through their inquiry through separate channels that
I wasn't telling Porky's and that was.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Really rewarding and vindicating. I guess what.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Was your role and how did you come across what
you did discover?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Look, my role was to essentially provide education, training, resources
assistance to clubs in its complex and convoluted legislation around
any money laundering, counter terrorism, financing and also other compliance
in general that affects clubs on a daily basis. Relating
(04:41):
the poke machines, there's legislation in place that's got to
be complied with. So that was my role simply not
to do them a job exposed not only individual clubs
but the industry to regulatory and reputational risk, two important
elements of risk management. So it was one of those
(05:04):
roles where whether you know the members liked it or not,
they needed the information. It was up to them to
whether they adopted it and followed through with it. But
I couldn't be complicit and expose the industry and essentially
the buck stopped with me. So if there hadn't been
something happened and I hadn't done a job, probably I
(05:26):
would have been thrown under the bus, which ultimately I
got thrown under the bus for doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Troy says it didn't take long to figure out who
his friends were and that he had a target on
his back.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, there's a lot of people there that were
thinking what I was saying, but weren't willing to say that,
and rightfully so they knew that the stick would.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Come out and there'd be a radar on the back.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I had cars parked outside the house and people watching
for extended periods of time, and certain sectors of the
industry turned on me as well.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
They didn't like the spotlight shone upon them.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And you know, it's the flow on effect from you know,
what was occurring with the money laundering really damages society,
the fabricous society with drugs linked to it. So, you know,
unfortunately it did undo I guess a lot of good
(06:28):
that have been done by community clubs.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But yeah, the mighty dollar is very very powerful.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, there's no quicker way to become friendless than blowing
the whistle. Troy found an unexpected ally from a then
gaming sector leader, James Packert labeled the legal action against
you by clubs in New South Wales as ruthless and unethical.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was a nice surprise of James's stature.
He understands the industry with his involvement with with Crown Casino,
and yeah, he could see, I think like other ordinary
people in the community could see that it was vicious
and it was a message shut up, keep your mouth shut,
(07:17):
and anyone that takes on us will be you know,
absolutely hammered viciously. Don't bother taking us on. And that
was a clear message. I think I was the only
one in one hundred years of the organization that's ever
blown the whistle.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
When you look back at that whole experience, would you
change anything?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Look, I don't think so. I mean, it hasn't done
me many favors. Once you blow the whistle. I haven't
haven't worked since. So that's been it's coming up the
five years. You're not on the high list priority list
of of companies wanting to employ someone. There's always that
(08:04):
stigma that you'll do the wrong thing and blow the
whistle on them. But I mean, anyone doing the right
thing shouldn't be worried about that.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Troy figured out it maybe was time to slow down
a bit, so he and the family moved from the
Central coast to Merywar. But then the hits kept on coming.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We did move out here to get away and take
it easy and recovering from that nearly four year court
battle in the Federal Court with clubs in New South Wales,
and that would have been the smart thing to do.
But yeah, come out here, and then unfortunately I got
(08:43):
sicker at the end and was diagnosed in May twenty
two with stage four terminal, nonoperable sophogil and bone cancer,
which I put down the stress of that war and
the court action more than likely had a large part
(09:06):
to play a deterioration of my health. But yeah, trying
to manage that out here in Mary War.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I've got the good tank water out here to drink,
not the radiation water in town, although that probably would
wouldn't affect me with the amount of radiation I've.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Had, but yeah, no local residents.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Spent a lot of time in town and you'll regularly
find me wandering around the cafes and.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Chatting the businesses in town.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's what I enjoy doing, and I was alarmed at
some of the stories and the feedback that was coming
back to me. What was going on in council, and
you know, such a beautiful little town, Merry War. They'll
look to me like they're missing out from council, being
treated as the poor cousin, and I think under undervalued
(09:57):
in a lot of ways. You know, a gateway to
the to the west, a lot of tourists, a lot of.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Caravans coming through.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And yeah, some of the stuff I was hearing from
well respected locals, you know within the town, the chemist
and joined the Progress Association and the Chamber of Commerce
and all the feedback, yeah, coming coming through other community members.
(10:26):
And we didn't have anyone throwing their hand up at
the time. And I was pretty late addition to the
to the nominations.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
But I thought someone's got to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I've done it, done it before in Cogra, running
against Chris Mins, and once again, yeah, looks it's going
to be tough to get in. There's nine spots and
eleven people. But I'll be fighting for Mary.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
War next on. iHeart upper Hunter. At a time when
many might suggest Troy should be putting his own health
needs first, he reckons the prognosis for merry War as
a community is very poor unless there's a real change
in council ranks.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I heart Upper Hunter, I heart Upper Hunter more.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now on our conversation with Upper hunter Shire Council election
candidate Troy Stoles, whistleblower, gambling reform advocate and cancer combatant,
Troy feels the mood for change in council is very strong,
especially in Merywar. He says many locals are unhappy with
the current level of representation and there's anger around the
(11:39):
proposed thirty three percent rate hike, which he does not support.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
The funny thing is, you know the candidates for them
recently in Mary War, you know, the existing counselors were
all lining up saying, you know how much they'd done
for Mary War and what they wanted to do. And
there were instances where you know, some counselors had done
(12:04):
some things, but you know the proofs in the pudding.
You look around the town, certain projects like the Footy Oval,
you know, nineteen seventies lights and the last time the
fence got painted was by James Constable when he was
a counselor in nineteen seventy six. So that with the
(12:25):
radiation in the water and then the pathways debarkle, which
was on show for everyone to see.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
The candidates for him.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The mayor and deputy mayor couldn't even tell the audience
how much the grant was and why the community required
to throw in sixty thousand dollars for the footpath.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
When it was grant money.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So just their their attitude towards that, I think I've
made the right choice jumping in, because the counselors already know,
but they can be assured that if I'm successful getting in,
I will be holding them accountable and myself as well.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Local government can be just as brutal as the playing
field at the top end of politics. Just ask up
one hunter Shire counselors, Sue Abbott or Elizabeth Flaherty, who
is Independents, were regularly shouted down for not falling into line.
Troy says, as his history shows he won't be bullied
by anyone.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You can take the path two pars on counsel You
can be a doer or someone that just collects the
dollars you get is being a counselor, and don't rock
the boat. You know I'm hearing and seeing all his
stuff on Facebook and comments, you know that it needs
(13:49):
to be collaboration and counselors need to work together. To me,
it's a job. It's no different to being in a workplace.
When you have a job, you don't like everyone in workplace.
That's just the way it goes. But there's rules and regulations,
there's codes of conduct in terms how you behave in
the workplace, and it's no different a council. I'm not
(14:11):
going into counsel to sit down with the mayor and
deputy mayor and give them a hug and have an
ice of ova and sinkumbai r.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I've got a job to go in to do for
the community and it's you know, the whole Upper Hunter
shy as well.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
We've got the towns like Castulus and Aberdeen all screaming
out and you know, even the residents i'm hearing of
Scine aren't happy to have an effective counsel and you're
hearing all this nonsense about you know, you speak up,
you're being divisive. What about a bit of robust debate
(14:52):
and effective council is the one where everyone goes in
and has a hug and agrees on the same thing.
Nothing's going to get done removing that boy's club element.
They'll deny that, but there's quite clearly a boy's club
in place and a controlling mechanism, and that's just going
to stifle counsel.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So we need some fresh blood in.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Troy says he's full of energy to represent the Upper
Hunter Shayer's best interests and doesn't see his cancer battle
as a reason not to vote for him.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was given weeks and months to live in May
twenty two, and the treatment's working.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I've now had forty.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Rounds of treatment and ten rounds of radiation and I'm
still going I'm feeling pretty good. It is an unknown,
but by saying that, I want to be transparent and
let voters make that choice. But in saying that, if
(15:54):
I was to have a major relapse and even pass away,
something similar could happen to anyone in that role.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You know, could get hit.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
By a bus, have a herd attack, their health could
fail them without knowing. So in some ways it's a
curse or you're blessed to know in advance with cancer.
But no, look, I'm tracking along pretty good at the moment,
and yeah, I don't think that is really really a concern,
(16:25):
because yeah, anyone's health can fail without notice at any time.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
So I'm just going to.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Get in there and rom sleeves up and get on
with it for the community.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
With just eleven candidates contesting the nine available seats on
UPP one, hunter Shire Cancil, Troy Stoles has a pretty
good statistical chance of being elected. And if there's an
appetite for change that Stole's claims there is, well it
won't be long before he adds Cancelor to his Wikipedia profile.
That's a wrap on another episode of Upper Hunter, proudly
(17:01):
supported by the new South Walest government. I'm Darren Ktrupe.
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
iHeart Upper Hunter.
iHeart upper Hunter.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It was vicious and it was a message shut up,
keep your mouth shut, and anyone that takes on us
bought the absolutely hammered good.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ay.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm Garren KATRUPI my guest today is one tough cookie,
a bloke whose reputation has been built on the premise
of calling out what he believes is just not on.
If you google Troy Stoles, the first thing, the second thing,
the third thing you get me a drift is that
Troy is a whistleblower and an advocate for gambling reform.
(00:34):
He exposed his former employer, Club's New South Wales for
corruption relating to poker machines, and despite doing the right thing,
Troy Stoles was then hauled through the cords for four
years as Club's New South Wales tried to silence him.
Even billionaire James Packard described the pursuit of Styles as
relentless and unethical. Troy then realized he needed to be
(00:56):
in politics to get things changed, so at last year
stayed a lie. Stoles ran as an independent up against
now Labor Premier Chris Min's in the seat of Cogra.
But not even Stoles could gamble with a major health
bolt from the blue when he received a stage four
cancer diagnosis and he and his family decided a move
to mary War might be what they needed. Well, that
(01:18):
didn't last long. Since arriving in town, Troy Stoles has
watched from the sidelines the dramas surrounding Upper hunter Shire Council.
Troy reckons the region could definitely do with having someone
with his skills and straight talking on the front line
of local community decision making, whether it's the council election,
his health issues or his battle with the big player
(01:39):
of the gambling industry. Troy Stoles has bucket loads of bravery,
brave or silly one of the two.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm not sure which which one applies, maybe both. I've
become aware of information over a period of time. It
wasn't a five minute thing. I reported it in turn
and it fell upon deaf years basically, and it's one
of those things that lands in your lap, and you know,
(02:08):
the standard you walk past is the standard you set.
So yeah, I felt I had to do the right thing.
I knew it wouldn't end pretty, and yeah, I still
I persevered with it internally and when I got.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
No response other than to shut my eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
That's when I went to Andrew Wilkie, the Tasmanian MP,
the A B sit in the Sydney Morning heralds so
and I think, you know, if I see the same
thing in council, you've got to enact on that. And
I'm and you owe the community to share that information
(02:51):
you have. It's it's a sense essential that you don't
walk past that did.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Any time though you sort of think, look, isn't worth
the personal cost? I I think this will bring or
did you not really know what the personal cost was
going to be until after their fate.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I knew that there would be there'd be retaliation. The
organization and the industry is ruthless, and I'd witnessed during
a decade two stint decade with the organization and the
industry that the likes of Nick Xenophon and Tim Costello
(03:32):
were always in their headlights and.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Targeted, so I knew there'd be a backlash.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I probably underestimated what would come dragging my wife in
and the stories that were made up along the way,
but it was really refreshing and rewarding when the New
South Wales Crime Commission did their inquiry in the poker
machines in New South Wales and basically came up with
(03:59):
the same information through their inquiry through separate channels that
I wasn't telling Porky's and that was.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Really rewarding and vindicating. I guess what.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Was your role and how did you come across what
you did discover?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Look, my role was to essentially provide education, training, resources
assistance to clubs in its complex and convoluted legislation around
any money laundering, counter terrorism, financing and also other compliance
in general that affects clubs on a daily basis. Relating
(04:41):
the poke machines, there's legislation in place that's got to
be complied with. So that was my role simply not
to do them a job exposed not only individual clubs
but the industry to regulatory and reputational risk, two important
elements of risk management. So it was one of those
(05:04):
roles where whether you know the members liked it or not,
they needed the information. It was up to them to
whether they adopted it and followed through with it. But
I couldn't be complicit and expose the industry and essentially
the buck stopped with me. So if there hadn't been
something happened and I hadn't done a job, probably I
(05:26):
would have been thrown under the bus, which ultimately I
got thrown under the bus for doing the right thing.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Troy says it didn't take long to figure out who
his friends were and that he had a target on
his back.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You know, there's a lot of people there that were
thinking what I was saying, but weren't willing to say that,
and rightfully so they knew that the stick would.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Come out and there'd be a radar on the back.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I had cars parked outside the house and people watching
for extended periods of time, and certain sectors of the
industry turned on me as well.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
They didn't like the spotlight shone upon them.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And you know, it's the flow on effect from you know,
what was occurring with the money laundering really damages society,
the fabricous society with drugs linked to it. So, you know,
unfortunately it did undo I guess a lot of good
(06:28):
that have been done by community clubs.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But yeah, the mighty dollar is very very powerful.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, there's no quicker way to become friendless than blowing
the whistle. Troy found an unexpected ally from a then
gaming sector leader, James Packert labeled the legal action against
you by clubs in New South Wales as ruthless and unethical.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was a nice surprise of James's stature.
He understands the industry with his involvement with with Crown Casino,
and yeah, he could see, I think like other ordinary
people in the community could see that it was vicious
and it was a message shut up, keep your mouth shut,
(07:17):
and anyone that takes on us will be you know,
absolutely hammered viciously. Don't bother taking us on. And that
was a clear message. I think I was the only
one in one hundred years of the organization that's ever
blown the whistle.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
When you look back at that whole experience, would you
change anything?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Look, I don't think so. I mean, it hasn't done
me many favors. Once you blow the whistle. I haven't
haven't worked since. So that's been it's coming up the
five years. You're not on the high list priority list
of of companies wanting to employ someone. There's always that
(08:04):
stigma that you'll do the wrong thing and blow the
whistle on them. But I mean, anyone doing the right
thing shouldn't be worried about that.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Troy figured out it maybe was time to slow down
a bit, so he and the family moved from the
Central coast to Merywar. But then the hits kept on coming.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
We did move out here to get away and take
it easy and recovering from that nearly four year court
battle in the Federal Court with clubs in New South Wales,
and that would have been the smart thing to do.
But yeah, come out here, and then unfortunately I got
(08:43):
sicker at the end and was diagnosed in May twenty
two with stage four terminal, nonoperable sophogil and bone cancer,
which I put down the stress of that war and
the court action more than likely had a large part
(09:06):
to play a deterioration of my health. But yeah, trying
to manage that out here in Mary War.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Lucky.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I've got the good tank water out here to drink,
not the radiation water in town, although that probably would
wouldn't affect me with the amount of radiation I've.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Had, but yeah, no local residents.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Spent a lot of time in town and you'll regularly
find me wandering around the cafes and.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Chatting the businesses in town.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's what I enjoy doing, and I was alarmed at
some of the stories and the feedback that was coming
back to me. What was going on in council, and
you know, such a beautiful little town, Merry War. They'll
look to me like they're missing out from council, being
treated as the poor cousin, and I think under undervalued
(09:57):
in a lot of ways. You know, a gateway to
the to the west, a lot of tourists, a lot of.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Caravans coming through.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And yeah, some of the stuff I was hearing from
well respected locals, you know within the town, the chemist
and joined the Progress Association and the Chamber of Commerce
and all the feedback, yeah, coming coming through other community members.
(10:26):
And we didn't have anyone throwing their hand up at
the time. And I was pretty late addition to the
to the nominations.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
But I thought someone's got to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I've done it, done it before in Cogra, running
against Chris Mins, and once again, yeah, looks it's going
to be tough to get in. There's nine spots and
eleven people. But I'll be fighting for Mary.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
War next on. iHeart upper Hunter. At a time when
many might suggest Troy should be putting his own health
needs first, he reckons the prognosis for merry War as
a community is very poor unless there's a real change
in council ranks.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I heart Upper Hunter, I heart Upper Hunter more.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Now on our conversation with Upper hunter Shire Council election
candidate Troy Stoles, whistleblower, gambling reform advocate and cancer combatant,
Troy feels the mood for change in council is very strong,
especially in Merywar. He says many locals are unhappy with
the current level of representation and there's anger around the
(11:39):
proposed thirty three percent rate hike, which he does not support.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
The funny thing is, you know the candidates for them
recently in Mary War, you know, the existing counselors were
all lining up saying, you know how much they'd done
for Mary War and what they wanted to do. And
there were instances where you know, some counselors had done
(12:04):
some things, but you know the proofs in the pudding.
You look around the town, certain projects like the Footy Oval,
you know, nineteen seventies lights and the last time the
fence got painted was by James Constable when he was
a counselor in nineteen seventy six. So that with the
(12:25):
radiation in the water and then the pathways debarkle, which
was on show for everyone to see.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
The candidates for him.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
The mayor and deputy mayor couldn't even tell the audience
how much the grant was and why the community required
to throw in sixty thousand dollars for the footpath.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
When it was grant money.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So just their their attitude towards that, I think I've
made the right choice jumping in, because the counselors already know,
but they can be assured that if I'm successful getting in,
I will be holding them accountable and myself as well.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Local government can be just as brutal as the playing
field at the top end of politics. Just ask up
one hunter Shire counselors, Sue Abbott or Elizabeth Flaherty, who
is Independents, were regularly shouted down for not falling into line.
Troy says, as his history shows he won't be bullied
by anyone.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You can take the path two pars on counsel You
can be a doer or someone that just collects the
dollars you get is being a counselor, and don't rock
the boat. You know I'm hearing and seeing all his
stuff on Facebook and comments, you know that it needs
(13:49):
to be collaboration and counselors need to work together. To me,
it's a job. It's no different to being in a workplace.
When you have a job, you don't like everyone in workplace.
That's just the way it goes. But there's rules and regulations,
there's codes of conduct in terms how you behave in
the workplace, and it's no different a council. I'm not
(14:11):
going into counsel to sit down with the mayor and
deputy mayor and give them a hug and have an
ice of ova and sinkumbai r.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I've got a job to go in to do for
the community and it's you know, the whole Upper Hunter
shy as well.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
We've got the towns like Castulus and Aberdeen all screaming
out and you know, even the residents i'm hearing of
Scine aren't happy to have an effective counsel and you're
hearing all this nonsense about you know, you speak up,
you're being divisive. What about a bit of robust debate
(14:52):
and effective council is the one where everyone goes in
and has a hug and agrees on the same thing.
Nothing's going to get done removing that boy's club element.
They'll deny that, but there's quite clearly a boy's club
in place and a controlling mechanism, and that's just going
to stifle counsel.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So we need some fresh blood in.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Troy says he's full of energy to represent the Upper
Hunter Shayer's best interests and doesn't see his cancer battle
as a reason not to vote for him.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I was given weeks and months to live in May
twenty two, and the treatment's working.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I've now had forty.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Rounds of treatment and ten rounds of radiation and I'm
still going I'm feeling pretty good. It is an unknown,
but by saying that, I want to be transparent and
let voters make that choice. But in saying that, if
(15:54):
I was to have a major relapse and even pass away,
something similar could happen to anyone in that role.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You know, could get hit.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
By a bus, have a herd attack, their health could
fail them without knowing. So in some ways it's a
curse or you're blessed to know in advance with cancer.
But no, look, I'm tracking along pretty good at the moment,
and yeah, I don't think that is really really a concern,
(16:25):
because yeah, anyone's health can fail without notice at any time.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
So I'm just going to.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Get in there and rom sleeves up and get on
with it for the community.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
With just eleven candidates contesting the nine available seats on
UPP one, hunter Shire Cancil, Troy Stoles has a pretty
good statistical chance of being elected. And if there's an
appetite for change that Stole's claims there is, well it
won't be long before he adds Cancelor to his Wikipedia profile.
That's a wrap on another episode of Upper Hunter, proudly
(17:01):
supported by the new South Walest government. I'm Darren Ktrupe.
See you next time.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
iHeart Upper Hunter.
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