BEST OF: Sex Stuff (ft. Abbie Chatfield & Cam Fraser)

Throwing back to some of our favourite bits from the podcast (so far!)

This week, it's all the times we've talked FILTH including:

 

• Kink Class - Omorashi, Blood Play, Mpreg & more

• Abbie Chatfield talks “Emotional Anal” 

• Top 5 Anal Perks with sexologist Cam Fraser 

• Root & Boots

• The FILTHY FanFic about Mitch & Mitch

 

**TRIGGER WARNING** This discussion about 'Blood Play' may not be suitable for all listeners (12:39)

**SAFE TO RESUME** (15:53)

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is it just me?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
A podcast by a couple of midges.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello you wear bag? Hello Mitchell?

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hello you?

Speaker 4 (00:08):
Time flies, doesn't it? It feels like we're well into the
new year already.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
We really are twenty twenty two? Who is she? Now?
We're back twenty twenty three. I'm loving it. I am
about to go off on my first trip of the
new year. I'm going to South Australia for the first
time in my life tomorrow. I fly out.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
You're joking because I fucking love Adelaide. I was converted.
I was like, I could live here easily.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, you have massive Adelaide energy.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I don't think that'd do.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I've been told I have very Sydney energy before, so
I don't know if I should be offended by that.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I don't know if i'd take that as a complement
Sydney energy, smog, congestion, clutter, overpriced, coward punches, lockout laws.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah. So I'm going to Adelaide. I'm seeing Sam Smith.
I'm interviewing Sam while they're here for their They're only
doing one show, so you're straight.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Back to work Jesus.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, I know, but it'll be nice though. So like
the tourisms, Essay are sending me down to do like
a wine tasting and then I get to interview South
starting form. Yeah, it'd be really nice. So you're right,
it is back to work, but these ones are nice.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I should be less.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Vocal about how much I love South Australia in that case,
because that's why Tourisms South Australia didn't send me then.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Like, we don't need to convert him. He's already a fan.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Good call.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, where else do you really want to go?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I hate Adelaide.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, you're also saying you hate five star hotels in London,
isn't that right? Mitchell?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Really I can't stand in Paris?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah yeah, New York City, No, I really need to
be So.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
My own Greek Island sounds disgusting. I haven't been there,
open to it anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm going to Essay tomorrow, So South Australian listeners, if
you've got any tips for me, let me know because
I'm there for a couple of days on my own
as well, so I'd love to do stuff. So DM
me play your own. Yeah yeah, well Hayden's coming halfway
halfway through, but I'm working so.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh okay on my own yeah, Wow, you're straight back
to work.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
We're only in episode three out of five with this
little Best Bit series we're doing, and you're already back
to work.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
It may as we just start doing the podcast again.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
No no, no, no, no, no no no. Let me
let me enjoy my break. But listen, we are here
with Best Bits number three. We're talking sex stuff today.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
That's this week's theme.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
So we often talk about sex stuff on the show.
I didn't realize how much we did until we sort
of packaged this all up together. But we love some
sex chat, Mitch.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
Yeah, and you.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Might notice as we work our way through some of
these throwbacks that a lot of them are clustered within
like a five episode bundle.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Like we were just really filthy for a few weeks
in a row.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Apparently, shit, maybe we were horned up. You were very
pent up for a while.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yet, I mean this was my single days, I suppose,
so maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, there was a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Firstly, let's kick it off. Do you remember that time
we did a segment called Kink Class. Yeah, and where
we were just learning about all the different kinks out there.
Not kink shaming, just a bit of awareness going on.
Because you know some people are into things. We don't
have to be into the mouselves, but hey, good to know.
We didn't ask anyone hereund but we certainly learned a
little something or too, didn't we.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I can't say, you know, there hasn't been times where
I've fought back to this episode and gone, God, maybe
I could incorporate that. Some of the things are a
bit extreme, as you'll hear. But King Class was very
fun and it was all stemmed from your housemate Jordan,
who we've spoken about on the show. Your ex housemate Jordan.
We've spoken about him many times.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
But he.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Sam's sex toy had to fill the void, so to speak.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, you could say that he was fulfilling someone else's
kink and so, okay, this is how Kink Class came
about back in episode sixty three. But first Jordan was
telling us about something that one of his hookups.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Was into, involving food. So let's just put it that way.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
Take a listen, funny story I have involved food once
in a threesome.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Oh right, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 7 (03:46):
Basically, a few years ago, one guy who I'd been
with a few times, he messaged me and he was like, hey,
I've got a new king and he's like, my new
kink is to be fucked with food and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
What, oh mi' just lit up. I just said I
can incorporate.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Jord and you aren't supposed to tell them about that.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
No, So I like, what, okay? Continue and he's like,
oh yeah, I like, like, you know, grow three items
and stuff. I'm like, oh what okay. Like it's like,
can you do you want to come over? And I'm
like I mean sure. He's like cool, can you go
to Cole's before?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
What sort of grossie?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
And it's like deodorant cans? What are we talking?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Did you want an abergine cucumber obergine?

Speaker 7 (04:34):
Yes, cucumber yes? So obgin being eggplants, eggplants. Cucumber capsicum
was a really weird one. There was a bitter melon
as well, and those are like really bitter melons, like
a zucchini has ribbed for pleasure basically okay. And the
final one was a kent pumpkins.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh, that's a huge go ahead with the fruit root.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
Yes, I did go ahead with the fruit route and
there was so it was a threesome as well. So
we were we're basically making a salad inside his asshole.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, please tell me you didn't put those things back
in the fridge to go.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
No, no, most of them, actually most of them actually
got peeled and I cooked him into a soup for him.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Oh are you serious?

Speaker 7 (05:25):
I am dead serious.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yes, So reminder, we don't kink shame in this house.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
No, of course, No, no, we did never.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
But I did ask our listeners to send in any
other out of the ordinary kinks that we might not
have heard of, that they've either been involved with or
been asked to be involved with. Interesting, and oh my god,
we've all got some learning to do. I hadn't heard
a half of these were doing the research. So first up,
this one comes from Jewels by Jewels.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Hi, my name's.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Jewles and I am from Melbourne. I'm an emergency nurse.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
I had a guy come in with the ambulance with
a chopstick in his piss hole. It was a blanket
over his lap, tented for which I pulled off his
lap and see this timber chopstick sticking.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Straight through his dick.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
And I basically, in a professional, say a professional way,
rather asked why the fuck did.

Speaker 9 (06:16):
You do that?

Speaker 8 (06:17):
And in his really Bogey Dodgy.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Way was like, oh I just get off on this shit,
you know, man.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
I was very perplexed at his response.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
However, you are your own rainbow.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Have a great day, guys, Thanks very much for your
podcast and keep up the amazing work.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Jeels Well, that one was really quite shocking for contraceptive diaphragm.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Sam chair.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Too much, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
No, no, no, I'm just thinking about the splinters. Like you
get the cheap ones and delivery, they've got a tiny
bit of stuck.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, that's that's where he went wrong because he used
a wooden chopstick. But this is what he was trying
to achieve with what's called urethral sounding. People are into
it because the urethra passes by very sensitive nerve areas
that can feel nice. Women can be into this too,
but for men, if a sounding toy goes deep enough,
it can simulate the prostate. But obviously you don't want

(07:18):
to use something that's going to get caught.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yes, of course, ye wooden chopstick from the Sushi Go.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
We don't recommend that one.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Oh all right, thanks Jules.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
The next one that comes from Colay, it's.

Speaker 10 (07:29):
Col from Dubbo.

Speaker 11 (07:31):
So one time I was jerk and mcgirkin and there
was like a kind of intense but kind of good
burn on my pecker. And then I remember that i'd
cut up chili's about an hour before, and I've tried
some hotter chilis and it's even better.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Oh so he's actually loving the chili wanks.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
He's into it. That's his new thing. And I tried
to google more information about this fetish. I think it's
literally just him because yeah, because all that came up
was like danger in case of emergency, this is what
to do. Like apparently it's not it's something that people
usually enjoy. It's quite horrific pain.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
But whatever, he likes it.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
It's a dubble thing.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I can imagine.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I have to admit I have done that before accidentally.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh yes, on the bird's eye chili. Then rub my
groin on the tropic board I just accidentally touched and
it's it's killer. It's the same as doing it on
your lip or your eye, you know, or your nose
when you touched it after you've touched chili, and yeah,
it's it's it's a right.

Speaker 9 (08:35):
Well.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Cowl was into it, But apparently if that does happen,
you're meant to apply milk, yogurt, canola, or vegetable oil
to try and ease the burning situation unless you're enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I'm sure he was fine with the milk there
to go to the freege if you know what I mean, right,
if someone else camped, is it?

Speaker 10 (08:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (08:52):
This one's from Kent is Kent from Sydney, and I
once hooked up with someone who had a pregnancy fetish.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
A pregnancy fetish. Oh, so these are kind of common,
as it turns out. Apparently on porn sites, the term
pregnancy gets searched just as often as the terms redhead
and babysitter.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh my two kings.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
To kill a combination of pregnant, redhead babysitter.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh my god. So did you want someone to be
pregnant while you're doing it? Or do you want to
get them pregnant?

Speaker 4 (09:25):
I imagine it would be different for everyone, but they're
not actually turned on by the thought of the baby itself.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
That'd be quite fucked right, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
But apparently it's more to do with like the heavy
breathing in the moaning that comes with when you're in labor.
It kind of sounds like sex noises for some people.
Jenna do an impression of being in labor.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh, okay, okay, and she isn't going to end up
on any prego porn sites anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
No, And some people find the actual look of a
pregnant body quite a turn on. They like the you know,
the big bumps, and a lot of the time women
get exter horney when they're pregnant, so you know, their
husbands are quite happy to take advantage of that.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I have heard that ride the waves, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I was picturing like pregnancy kink, like you know, take
me to baby bunt.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, actually male pregnancy or m preg as they call it.
It's also part of this kink. A lot of gay
couples like to role play the idea of one of
them being pregnant because it's literally something they'll just never
actually experience.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So it's kind of like I letting their imagination run wild.
And they say, it's all about the emotional closeness and vulnerability,
something rarely seen in porn. I take that, babe, Do
you want a foot massage? You've been walking around with
that third trimessabelli all day. I don't know how it works.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Put this bib on. Yeah, I don't know. A spoon
feeds you some mashed apple. That's my kind of kid.
I've been there. I bet we haven't done a pregnancy kink,
but there's been things thrown around like, oh, get you pregnant?
That kind of ice?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, right, there you go that kind of typing with that,
like knock me out that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, kind of yeah, it's kind of like you know,
right at the end when you're out to climax. So yeah,
go there me, Yeah, yes, goodness me.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
The next one comes from Ashley.

Speaker 12 (11:08):
Hey it's Ashley and I'm from Brisbane.

Speaker 13 (11:11):
So this guy asked me if I would be willing
to put on a pair of heels and both stand
on and walk all over his body while he lay
on the ground.

Speaker 12 (11:21):
So yeah, essentially he asked me to trample him.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
The more bruises are better.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Interestingly contraceptive. Sam is nodding his head.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Oh yeah, no, not for me, but I have a
mate that that sounds like not me, but I have
a friend. But literally, I have a mate that that
is his absolute life. He just all that he wants
is a girl and a great pair of like Jimmy
Choo's or something, and just like give it to him.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, I feel like the heels part that's a little
bit more extreme because all the examples I found was
all just like barefoot, having someone walk on you, like
feeling trampled, because it's all about feeling submissive and having
someone dominate over you. But it just makes me think
of the bloody stampede on the line. Yeah, what are
they called, the beast, something like that, antelope, yea, something

(12:07):
like that.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, God, that wouldn't work for me. The heel will
go straight through my back. It's very soft.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Man, that's so risky. But hey, being.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Dominated is dominatrix and you know, and that's you.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
You know, I get that element, but I'm just like
the heels, like that's a new extreme that's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, And I you know what I love about that
is that often it's real heterosexual, burly straight man who
love that shit but'll never talk about it. But that's
their kink in their bedroom. I love that. I think
that's so cool.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Totally all right, This next one from Joanna before we
get into it, Sam's got a bit of a trigger
warning for us warning.

Speaker 14 (12:41):
The following segment contains conversations about bloodplay and may not
be suitable for all audiences. If conversations about cutting it's
something you may find distressing, Please pause the podcast now
and check the show notes for a time code of
when it's safe to resume. And remember, if you need
someone to turn to, Lifeline is always available for support.

(13:01):
On thirteen eleven fourteen.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yeah, so we're talking about blood play. Yeah, now, this
one comes from Joanna.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Okay, let's go Hi.

Speaker 15 (13:09):
My name is Joanna. I am from Melbourne. My friend's
kink is that she loves blood play. So she loves
basically sex with blood, like to be cut someone and
that they bleed, or sex on her period or anything
that basically creates a pool of blood. It's not something
that goes so deep that will be harmful, but it's

(13:32):
enough for them to bleed. And if they don't like
actual blood, she will use like fake blood.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, so apparently some people enjoy the tastes of blood
and like to incorporate it in the bedroom.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I find that would be very hard to find someone
that enjoys the blood, but also find someone that's okay
with being cut.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah, I feel like you'd have to kind of meet
people on the blood play forums. Yeah, also enjoy that
kind of thing, but it might just be a little
sewing needle or something to prick the skin, you know,
like the diabetes piston kits or something, or some of
the people they like to do something a little more
extreme knife plate, which doesn't necessarily involve actual cutting, but
apparently they just enjoy the fear factor of having someone

(14:15):
take their clothes off with the knife you're gonna cut me.
They might do a bit of light scratching and not
actually draw blood. But for people who actually do like
to draw blood, they usually would do research beforehand because
there's like safe zones that you can cut and it
won't like fucking kill someone. And then I don't know,
like the thigh or something. Yeah, but then there's obviously

(14:36):
danger zones like the neck. I'm sorry, you can't just
go slitting people's throats for fun.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
It's just no good. But yeah, there's like a diagram
that there's like a.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Human body online that I saw and they had like
red zones and that, yeah, and then like the green
zones are like okay, like it's less risky.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Interesting, but imagine the cleaning up.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, I don't imagine they aim to get a lot
of it involved.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't know. Also imagine the discovery of that, Like
are you just clipping your little toes one day and
you cut too deep and you had a bit of
blood and you're like, oh I am I'm hard.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, Or like they've got a bleeding nose and they
feel a bit of it coming through the back of
their throats and they're like yummy, Yeah, I don't mind that.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, that's the thing, you know, we didn't even talk
about it on the show. I don't know why we didn't.
It seems very upper ally. The whole Army Hammer cannibally well, well,
I saw a lot of threads online that was like, yeah,
what plays his kink? It's fine, and everyone's like dunk kinkschamb.
I'm like, I can get around that. But then he
was taking it to the next level. But that was
the first time that I was ever made aware that
people actually get off on this.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, Like there's the difference between blood play and Armie
Hammer wanting to eat someone's heart.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Like rip it out of their chair. Yes, he wanted
to eat something old fashioned. I'm not into that interesting, okay.
And then we have a couple more right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
This one's from Hannah.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
It's Haddah from the Sunshine Coast. So when I was
with my ex, he had this fetish the middle wet
myself when wearing.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
It had to be jeans.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
It specifically had to be jeans. And one day, it
was the day my car had broken down, I had
you to the bathroom because I had been sitting on
the side of the road for three hours.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Waiting for rac to come get me.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
And he picked me up and then he ended up
diving for two hours straight, trying to tickle me, trying
to make me laugh so that I would wet my
jeans because it really got him going. And when I
pulled him up on it. I didn't know about the
fetish at the time. I found out, like for a
month later, and he told me all about it. And
it's got this name called omrah shit. Yes, it has

(16:32):
a real name for girls wetting themselves, but he was
specifically in jeans.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
At the end of the night.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
He wanted me to wet myself in jeans, and to
the point that when it was his birthday, he even
asked me. I was like, what do you want for
your birthday? He goes, I want you to wet yourself
in jeans for me, I'm like, ill, So, yeah, that's
the story of how my ex basically forced me to
wet myself like a toddler. I didn't wet myself.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Though, so I was like a Netflix original series.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I finally enough didn't work out to me.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I thought they were really a good match for each other.
I think the important thing there was also consent. I mean, yeah,
definitely has to be consensual.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Precisely, driving someone around for two hours trying to make
them piss themselfs not cool. But yes, she mentioned it's
called amarahi, the Japanese word for wet yourself, and people
get aroused by the discomfort of a full bladder and
they enjoy like the tension in the lead up, and
then when someone finally pisses themselves it's like a release.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Oh so that's kind of a sexual connotation, Like I kind.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Of get that, I can understand.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, but they also enjoy, you know, the embarrassment factor
as well, So it kind of comes into the whole
heel trampling thing.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Guys communicate with your partners, if they want to make
sure you're okay with it, and if you wanted to
piss herself laughing, you should have played this podcast.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Finally, just when you hadn't heard enough bodily fluir with
this last one comes from Joel.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's still from Perth.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
And this wasn't me, but one of my friends once
had a guy ask her to sit on top of
a glass table and do a shit while he's watching
from underneath.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Oh goodness me yep.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
So this is what's called a hot carl. As I
found out, there's a few variations of the hot carl. Either,
you can put cling wrap over your partner's face while
doing a shit in their mouth, so that they physically
experience the warmth and the shape of the the turd.
It's called a rusty trombone that one. If you do

(18:24):
it on their chest, it's called a Cleveland steamer. Or
there's what we called the cold car, which is what
he mentioned, which is sitting on the glass table while
the partner enjoys the view from underneath while you do
a shit, laylong right there on the glass. Move the
TV week, babe, I'm feeling horny.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Where's the Foxtael remote. Remember we did the Distant last week.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's under the pile of feces. Hey,
no king shaming that that's next level though, that's that's
that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, that is. I I don't understand fecal matter.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
I understand that like as a game, and you are
obviously toying with danger when sex involves that region where
the shit comes from. But I prefer to detach the
two from each other. Yes, I prefer to not remember
that that also serves that function.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I don't want to watch someone do with shit.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, I don't ever pressed into it. It's like when
you go to therapy and they get a piece of
paint and squash it between a fold. Ye, what do
you see here?

Speaker 4 (19:24):
And some like that, but with who yeah I know,
and so this one and a lot of the others.
I basically tried to find a clear answer of why
do they like it?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like what is it?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
And there really isn't a clear answer for a lot
of them. But all the websites that I read did
make clear that it's like, it doesn't make you a psychopath.
Some people just you know, have quirky kinks and that's
just the way their brain's wired. As long as it's
consensual and you know you're not.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yes, I completely agree as long as both or multiple
parties are safe more than two these days.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
One and the other thing is that a lot of
these ones that I just thread out all of the websites,
that they're more common than you think because it's like
not spoken about.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
So you never know someone in this room that wants
to confess to having any leaf kings.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
No, no one.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I did want to pitch for the next merch though
that we get glass coffee tables.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, no one wants to come forward.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
No, Well, thank you guys for writing in. That was
very nice, very.

Speaker 16 (20:19):
Just for me.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
All right. This next one is a good friend of ours,
good friend of the show, Abby Chatfield. We had her
on the show and she was great.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah she was.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
This was when she did not work for Arrival Networks,
so we were allowed to admit that. We get along
now you guys Arrival.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
So that's fine. She'll never be on the podcast again.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yes, isn't that bad blood between us and Abby? But
contractually we hate her. Yeah, that's just what we have
to say it, you know, it's a teas and see.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, we don't hate each other. Our bosses hate each other.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I love Abby. Anyway, this is Abby. I believe we
were talking about anal. What happened with Abby?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, she was talking about what she referred to as
emotional anal. One point this.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
It's back in episode fifty five. If you want to
hear the whole thing, it was a great episode. But yeah,
he's Abby talking about emotional anal and she describes it,
is it just me?

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Is anal more intimate than vaginal?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well? In my no, I've done both.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Have you which one is more intimate?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Well, I mean one is this requires preparation and metal
choices and it's not spontaneous. Yeah, and then there's anal sex.
It doesn't make sense, but yeah, I don't know. It's
definitely way more inter it it's more delicate, it's more
I literally my x y.

Speaker 13 (21:45):
I used to call it emotional analo and like I
would cry during anal but like I love you, he's
like fucking my ass.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
But in the pussy it would just be like I'm
your whole fuck me?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Did you did you enjoy it the first time?

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (21:59):
Because I prepared properly I went to the den in Brisbane,
which is like a sex door, and there was a
twink working and I said, I want to do anal.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
How do I do it?

Speaker 13 (22:07):
And he gave me the whole run down and he
was like, you need to to enjoy it, prepare for it.
Gave me the douche, gave me like a training kit
about it. In the first place, I had like a
boyfriend of like a year and he was like thirty four,
and I was like.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Did he suggest it or is it you already?

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I think I like, think of my arm I know
I had autonomy. Then okay, I think, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
And then he was like he's a training kit.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
The different size plugs yep.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
And then he said and then he was like, makes
off come without anyone else.

Speaker 13 (22:42):
So like I had like a training I had like
a boot camp from his twink And then I did
the annals and then yes, and I come like now
it's to the point where when I do anal, I
like have to stop myself from coming because it feels
so fucking.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Good, you know what I mean, It's good and you
don't even have a pros state because that's one of
the perks of being a gay man is that that's
where the east bodies, the male g spody is at
the back door.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
It does make sense, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 13 (23:04):
It makes sense It would be nice to get fucked
in the ass as a man, but just I think
it's like naughty. And also you put a butt plug
in the asshole your puss, he's tighter and therefore I
actually you mentioned the.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Butt plug training kit where it's like small, medium, in
large to work your way out. So my mate Mitchell here,
he's actually deathly afraid of receptive.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I know, I know, I'm not afraid.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
It's just on the street.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Street where you are.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
So Mitch has always been like, I'm the giver, not
the receiver. And I said, now what you need to
understand is that as the top you can actually be
the giver with the plug in the back door, and
it actually enhances the giving experience. And so I got
him the small medium large kid. I haven't actually asked,
have you used it?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Baby's first butt PLoP?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah? I did.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
We go to to try the little one. It's like
it was like a push pop size for reference. Yeah,
and didn't. I didn't get there No, were you with
your partner?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
No, don't do that. What are you worried about?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I just don't enjoy it. You do.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
You literally need to lub it up into also shoving?
Really shoving? Or were you twisting shoving?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
You were shoving?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
I know I can look with your eyes. Did you
twist or shove?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
It probably was more of a delicate shove.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Yes, you need just.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Twists and so.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
And then in further you do it on my own
and then encourage yourself and.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Threads on your back.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
On the prostate.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
And try and sit on it so your body weight.
Don't don't be like doggy style.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
So you want my body weight to put anything inside
of me, You'll.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Never see it again.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
We'll come out my nose.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
Usually when I get sucked in the ass, I start
off by being because and I'm in control with a
real human man.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
I'll set off on top because I'm like that I
can control it.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And then I'm like I couldn't be on top.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
But of your butt plug.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yah yah yeah.

Speaker 13 (25:04):
But what I'm saying is like preparation. I just think
you'll a whole new world aeral style.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Can I ask, do you switch between the day day
and the back door or do you just purely enjoy
back door nowadays?

Speaker 5 (25:17):
No, so I haven't it anal for a while.

Speaker 14 (25:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
That off.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
It's just been a bit of a pause to me.
But you actually can't switch because if you put the
pinils in the annals.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's like using chicken and beef on the same shopping board.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
It's yeah, it's it's Gordon Ramsey like raw and cooked me.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Like it's like chicken and beef.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Crossy.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
You get back to your baginosis, So you can't go
vagina to anus. You can't go and then you can.
So once you start and they have to come. And
also once I come, I like get the fuck out
of there.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Like as soon as I.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Come, I'm like, no more time. So I have to
hold off and not touch my clip because I can
even do this.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I come. But do you get so do you make
sure the guys always gets gets off before you, because
you know you get disinterested as soon as you finish.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
No, I'll just say you're gonna have to come. When
I say him coming, you have to come.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Okay time, do you know what I've decided Mitchell I,
because I want to get to Abby's deep. Next week
on the show, I'm going to set a side time
i want to do. It's been a while since I've
done an indum top five it is. I'm going to
do like a top five reasons why you should give
it a crack Because it makes me sad. It makes
me desperately sad to think that there's so many men

(26:33):
out there that will never experience their own.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
G spot grow up. Give it a go, and I'll
tell you why.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Would you like to add to the list another reason why?

Speaker 11 (26:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:42):
No, as a as a woman, why should he give
it a go? Why do you love it? It's just
a bit naughty, isn't it?

Speaker 13 (26:49):
And it's fun and also you're gay man, we'd buy
man panman. Whatever we are, we're sucking a man.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
But I know it's there.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's not the chocolate in the pantry. It's like, O, No,
it's there. But I'll just look for a cold night.

Speaker 17 (26:59):
Okay, Well, next week tonight, darling God, just don't forget
to subscribe and leave a review on your podcast app
or follow on Spotify.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Oh Cheerry, do you remember this one? Back in episode
fifty eight? We should get an update from you while
we're here.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
No, no, I don't think so. Was this I mean,
is this what I think it is? Is this you
trying to get me to delve into some play.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
I just wanted you to be more open for want
for better phrase, And then I took it one step further.
It was almost like an intervention. I got sexologists Camphraser
on to describe to you the top five perks of anal.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I don't know if you was sold even after that.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
No, it was very confrontational, which I don't doesn't work
well with me, as you well know. But no, I
will say, and I think I have given an update
on this. But you know, the cheeks have been spread
and there is you know, as Bob Cattle would say,
a thousand bottoms have bloomed. And it's not it's you know,
it's like mint, the peppermint tea. I enjoy it sometimes,

(28:03):
like after a really hot meal, or I enjoy it
when it's cold, but a couple of times a year,
you know, it's not my go to I'm an English
breakfast boy. If if that analogy checks out.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
No, that analogy checks out, okay, well congratulations, Well.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, so what
you could to say is this.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Little intervention that I did actually worked. I did open you,
so to speak. Maybe I'll open someone else today.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, hey, listen, if you're struggling with penetrating your prostate thirteen,
give us a calm. We'll get your on the pod.
All right. This is Cam Fraser. Is your six ologists?
Is her sex therapist?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
What's his Yeah, he hosts his own podcasts and stuff.
So yeah, he was the man for the job.

Speaker 16 (28:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Here it is from episode fifty eight. It's Cam Fraser
Top five.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yes, you know me. I love a good countdown here
on the show. And today it's all about the reasons
that men should try anal.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
How long have you had this in the back pocket?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Just well, I've been saying for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Now I was going to do this topic with you,
but I feel like you don't really understand what all
the fuss is about, even as a gay man.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
No, I'm not fussed about it, and I'm probably just
you know, I've got we've got our role that I
play with my relationship and we're very happy there, and
it's like, well, I'm probably just you know, I'm just
going to keep pushing it off because so there's no
pressure to get it done.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Well, no, when I'm not.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Pressuring you put it that way, you don't have to
do anything you don't want to do.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Very true.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
This is actually this could apply to anyone really, even
females who are in a heterosexual relationship. Hearing this might think, hey,
I might just slip a finger in next time. As
I'm about to detail there are perks to the back
door action.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
So I couldn't think of five myself. I'm like, I
need an expert to actually help me out with this.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
So Cam Fraser, he's a male sex coach and he's
the host of his own podcast, Men's Sex and Pleasure
with Cam Fraser, and he wrote an article for love
Honey dot com dot a you all about the reasons
that men should try anal plays. So I've got him
on the podcast today to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Hey care, Oh Cam, Hi, Hello, thanks for having me
our pleasure.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
So you are you like talk about anal.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Huh yeah, I think it's especially as a as a
straight dude. I think it's really important for you know,
my demographic of dudes to talk about anal penetration and
anal pleasure.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
How do you tell your parents what you do? You go,
Mum and Dad, I'm an anal pro.

Speaker 10 (30:13):
And it's all over social media, so they definitely they're
definitely aware of it.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
So what sort of other topics do you do on
your podcast? Because it's it's a whole range of things, right,
it's just basically sex talk for men.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
Yeah, totally, Yeah, I talk about I've had an episode
all about food play and incorporating that into your you know,
both solo and partnered sexual experiences.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Mitchell's eyes.

Speaker 16 (30:38):
I know.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I'm like, all right, Cam, I'm going to have to
get your Instagram handle and we can talk of a
room full of red rooster at the moment and a
half erection. So I feel like we're what can I
do with it? And they're very true? Okay, cool, that's exciting.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I'm really curious about that. Long story short? What is
the what's the in a nutshell? What is food play?

Speaker 10 (30:55):
Okay, in a nutshell? Push the pip out of a
peach and stick your dick inside of it.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh, call me by your name vibes Yeah, wow, yeah, sure, yeah,
Oh my.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
God, sucking a fruit pretty much?

Speaker 8 (31:07):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well I do that on a daily basis.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Interesting that we're not talking about fucking peachers, We're talking
about fucking the peach emoji today. Oh yeah, Now, do
you think that, particularly with straight men, there is a
little bit of stigma around anal They're like, oh, that's a.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Bit too gay for me.

Speaker 10 (31:25):
Yeah, I think there's more than just a little bit
of stigma. Unfortunately, there's a there's a couple of resistances
that I find when I talk to guys, straight diet
guys about anal play. And it's the there's a fear
that it's going to hurt. There's like they're they're afraid
that that's going to be painful. There's some hygiene concerns
and they're not sure how to do it hygienically. And
then the big one is the fear of being you know,

(31:47):
making them gay, or being called gay, or being thought
of as anything less than a heterosexual manly.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Man, so like a masculated almost like yeah, yeah, this is.

Speaker 10 (31:56):
This internalized homophobia for sure that a lot of guys have.
They might extra ternalize it and out of the express it,
but when it comes to exploring that part of their body,
that's a big resistance for them.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
And we've got you up on zoom, we can see that,
like you're a manly man yourself. You've got the rugged beard,
Like you're not like secretly gay because you love anal.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
You're all about it, even if it's even as a
straight man.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
I appreciate that. I don't consider myself maybe stereotypically masculin.
I don't fit that like alpha jock stereotype. But I
say to straight guys all the time, you guys that
are in heterosexual relationships, anything you do with a woman
is by definition heterosexual sex. Doesn't matter what the act
is that you're doing. If you're doing so true and
it's like it doesn't matter what the act actually is.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah, and it's on the flip side, there's Mitchell here
who just really does not give a fat rats is
not really that interested in receptive.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
So I'm going to work through this.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Let's go to the list.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
I'm going to work through this.

Speaker 17 (32:49):
Top five.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I feel like you need to hit this sing again. Okay,
I need to hear my jingle.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah we're not really in the cowdown, but now we
are the top five, number one.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
It feels really good. Test Cam Fraser, you're kidding.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
A common MyD that that anal play is that it
is painful. Sure, it can hurt if you go too fast,
but like all sexual activities, if you go slow and
do it right, you'll get better and that's when the
fun starts.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
The anus is rich with nerve endings.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
And the list.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
It's a completely different experience of pleasure compared to simulation
of the penis. Mitchell, would you say that that's been
an issue with the because I did get you the training,
kitt Remember you you dove in the deep end, so
to speak, Well, I just before practice.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's not very deep. It's a shallow pond. It's not
that I just yeah, I just don't see what I
how I will get any any interest out of it,
because I'm very happy doing what I do essentially. But
if there's a if there's a wealth of pleasure out
there that I'm missing, then you know that is that
I'm open to.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, But you can actually
if you're the giver and you're enjoying your role. Yeah,
is that giving experience that can be enhanced if you've
got you know, a toy something up your own right.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 14 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (34:03):
The anus itself has a bunch of different types of
nerve endings, which is really fascinating and we'll get into
the anatomy of it. But we can experience sensations from pressure, temperature,
roughness of touch as well, whether it's smooth or whether
it's like really vigorous. There's all these different things. And
we haven't even talked about the prostate yet. This is
just simply like the canal and all of that can

(34:27):
can elicit some pleasurable sensations. So if you're incorporating, you
don't even have the enter into you don't even have
to talk about penetration. We can just talk about like
just massaging the rim or just using a little bit
of lube and just kind of palpating or pulsing just
the anal opening because there's a lot of sensation to
be had just from that.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So yeah, so you mentioned the prostate, right, that's on
the list too.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Number two.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
It helps overcome stigmatization, which we touched on. Number three.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
You can have prostate orgasms. Okay, so you've written the
prostate which is roughly the size of a walnut and
it's located about two inches inside. When pressed or rubbed,
the prostate is capable of bringing you to orgasm. You
could say that the prostate is the male equivalent of
the female g spot. Now, yeah, the interesting thing about

(35:11):
this is that we had Abby Chatfield in the studio
a couple of weeks ago, and she.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Loves anal and I was like, what's so interesting. Yeah,
they don't have a prostate.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
Yeah, I mean they still have all those beautiful nerve
endings in the anus as well, So there's still a
lot of pleasure to be had from that type of stimulation.
So either way, you're going to experience pleasure. The prostate,
which is something that can really only be stimulated through
direct penetration of the anus, is something that can really
unlock male bodied people's experience as a pleasure. You can

(35:42):
take it to the next level.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Interesting, Genna looks like she's going to be sick.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
I know, Paul, Jenna's going to read a rooster hat
on She's about to spew into it. It's beautiful. But
I know all about that. I mean, I'm gay, for
Christ's sake, and I do have gay seggs. I mean,
I know all about the prostaate and things have been
done and I agree on Once you unlock that, it's like, oh,
it's a completely different kind of feeling to a standard
you know, old school nineteen twenties jerk off. You know,

(36:07):
it's like it's like fine, you're just jerking off. Or
having sex is like having like flying economy, and then
like you get the prostate involved. It's like baby, you're
in business, you know, you get the champagne on arrival, right.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
Well, it's a totally different experience. Like an ejaculation or
an ejaculatory orgasm is mediated through what's called the pedendal
nerve versus the prostate, which is connected primarily to the
hypergastric nerve. You can have a prostate orgasm and not ejaculate,
so you can have another prostate orgasm and another one
and another one and become multi orgasmic because you don't
into your refractory period.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
That is just I'm writing that down to the person.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
There's going to be no mess because I've spoken on
this show about how much I hate Jim and I
said I'd love to live in a world where you
could orgasm without making a mess up.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
We've cracked it amazing. I'm learning from this.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Top five leftl like segment done. Thanks I'm going to
have a toy and I'm going to be in bed
for an hour.

Speaker 16 (36:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
The next one, this one I thought was really interesting.
I didn't know this.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Number four.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
It's good for your help pstate massages. It's one way
you can help reduce your risk of prostate cancer.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Massage the plot state helps to clear the Oh god,
what is this a prostatic duct?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
My Dyson does that?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
What is a prostatic duct?

Speaker 16 (37:19):
Right?

Speaker 10 (37:20):
So, our reproductive system has a series of ducts that
transport prostatic fluid or seminal fluid to form our jibs,
and those ducts can get congested, right if they're not
cleaned out right, it's cleaning the pipes. That's kind of
where this idea kind of comes from in terms of
kind of sexual lingo. So doing a manual massage on

(37:42):
the prostate can be really beneficial for releasing and relaxing
the fluid that's been congested in there, that's been stagnant
in there. And oftentimes this is what's called prostate milking.
You're releasing that prostatic fluid and it's just.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Say milking that fair sounds great, that sounds funny, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
In years six, I want to milk cows at we
should all be taken and taught how to milk ourselves
because it's beneficial. And if it's if it's helping us,
my god, then that's brilliant and it feels good. Right yeah.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
Yeah, that's the benefit as well, is that it's the
bonus I suppose is that it's for your health and
it feels good.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Now Number five on the reasons all men should try
anal play, This is the one any straight man should
listen up to.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Okay, it makes you a better lover.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
When you learn how your own anatomy works, you will
better understand the anatomy of others. If you ever want
to get really good at penetrating, you need to know
how it feels to be penetrated.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah, that that's a big one, I think, right, Cam,
I can agree with that totally.

Speaker 14 (38:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
This is like you wouldn't do something to another person
that you haven't done yourself already, Right, that's kind of
the principle behind this. And and for me personally, and
for all the men that I've worked with, heterosexual dudes
that have done this, they have all come back to
me and said, I've got a new found appreciation for
how slow you need to go, for how much lube
you need to use, for how much patience you need

(39:05):
to have, for how much checking.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
In you need to do.

Speaker 10 (39:08):
With regards to how the experience is going, they all
translated that experience from themselves onto their partner, and you know,
their partners then said, wow, you're way more attuned than
attentive to the needs that I have.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
So your partner must just think you're the best fuck ever.

Speaker 10 (39:26):
We've been together for a long time as well, so
we do know each other's bodies quite well.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
So they've really seen from you know, beginning to where
you are now. Is the sex Buddha?

Speaker 10 (39:35):
Yeah, we're actually expecting our first child.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
To get with her A nice.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
When that happens, when's it's.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
We're thirty four weeks pregnant at the moment, so it's
within within the next month hopefully.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Oh really, I don't know how the weeks work. I
was like, what thirty four mean?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
But wow, that's quite parallel.

Speaker 10 (39:53):
That's the points to end.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, wow, well, please let us know how you go.
That's very exciting.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I think it's quite possible that you are the first
six white strap dude that we've had on this.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I think, my god, very true. We need to pause
for that, just on alpoha. We're getting all the demos.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Before we do have we did have beautiful seas. But
he what he gets up to? Yeah, yeah, I don't
think it's que.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I completely agree. We're all there before I let you
go camp question, gave any advice or any any sort
of tip bits for like they're a better term about
a rectal dysfunction, maybe in youth or maybe in gay
men age startling. No, I'm perfectly fine. My ducks are clead.
They are are maybe talking about a friend that I
know or a podcast colors who has had to get

(40:43):
viagra prescribed at the very young and youthful age of
twenty four. I mean, any tips or any advice, Maybe
Mitch's ducks need clearing in genner and I can help.
We know that.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Just for some background, Cam I was put on antidepressants
and one of the side effects is sexual dysfunction. Yes,
so yes, just in case there was any you know,
issues getting up and staying up in the bedroom, they
prescribed me viagra as well, and didn't Mitch just fucking
sink the boot in every week on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
He was bringing it up.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
He just couldn't get over the fact that someone who
is only twenty four or not in their eighties already
needs viagra.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Oh no, it's not like I made a segment called
viagra updated checked it weekly to see how his penis
was clearing and now the blood flow was going. No,
but it's very interesting. But Mitch also wasn't told that
it took how many hours? Three hours to kick in,
So he went on a hookup, popped a pill, and
then he didn't get the stiffy until the guy you
know went in a jiffy if you.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Know, it only takes it acts like an hour to
an hour and a half. But is that Is that
something you've talked about in your podcast, the rectile dis
function all that?

Speaker 10 (41:41):
Yeah, definitely. I've talked about natural viagras as well. So
if you're not keen on taking pharmaceuticals, there's other types
of things that you can take to help with your
sexual function. But you got to listen to the podcast.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Oh he's good, he's good.

Speaker 10 (41:55):
A little bit of some tidbits. Yes, focus on what
pleasure you're experiencing, right, So it's natural actually for erections
to wax and wane over the course of a sexual experience,
for them to get a little bit firmer, to get
a little bit softer, maybe to go flacci completely, and
then to become erect again. But then secondly, if you
do kind of lose your erection, lose a little bit

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of firmness, one of the ways you can start to
just continue that sexual experience and maybe allow the direction
to come back is to start focusing on what you
feel with your hands. Start to notice the sensation of
pleasure from touching your partner's body, from touching your body.
Focus on the pleasure rather than on that like performative.
Oh god, now I don't have an erect cock. Now
I can't do anything sexual. Just bring it back to

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the sensation of pleasure that you're experiencing, and oftentimes, by
focusing on the pleasure, you'll start to enjoy yourself, and
by enjoying yourself, you'll allow the direction to just come
back naturally, and then you're able to be penetrative or
do whatever it is that you want to do with
your erect penis again.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Kay, I know this is a podcast, but Mitch just
just fieled an a four book he's just been writing frantically.
He's run a kilometric or dry, he's just writing notes frantically. No,
that they're very good tips.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's good for all of us. I mean we all
got exactly like you said. I mean, you know, erections
come and go. It happens to all of us, regardless
of you know, a Rectalda's function and things that are influencing.
So great tips.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
And there's plenty more tips you can get on the
podcast Men's Sex and Pleasure with Cam Fraser.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Cam, thanks for coming on the podcast today.

Speaker 10 (43:19):
Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Is it just when podcast by a couple of mitches?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
All right, now, this is going back to my single
days once again.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Remember back in episode thirty eight and this was the
first time I'd ever been kicked out of someone's house
after a hookup.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh my god, I remember this. You were quite upset
about this today.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
I think I was upset.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I was definitely a bit shocked because I thought it
was kind of normal, if you know, if you've just
porked someone to be like, oh, you know, crash or
you just fall asleep together, it was normal.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
But it sparked a bit of a debate. We had
a listener coming on giving their two cents as well,
So here's how that went. We've got Xander on the
phone right now.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Hi Darling, Hey boy, how are you going?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
We're so good now, Mitch.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
I've been chatting with Xander on Instagram and I've asked
him to come on to do and is it just you?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
You're ready to go? Xander? Yes, all right, hit it Bradley.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Is it just mere?

Speaker 16 (44:16):
Do you refuse to let someone stay over your house
after you've hooked up with them? Because I don't understand
the logic behind.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
It, the logic behind the hook up or the kicking out.

Speaker 16 (44:29):
Look, why would you let someone stay over a random
person in your bed?

Speaker 3 (44:35):
So you're a fan of a Root and Boot are you?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's a fucking Lewis Jes family program? So hold on,
I'm confused, Mitch. Do you agree with this? And You've
just like, well, how has this come about?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Well, it's it's very interesting that this has come up
when it has, because I've only recently changed my mind
on this topic because someone that I hooked up with
recently said to me afterwards, in no uncertain terms, get
the hell off my property.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Please, and it was.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Would well, Well, this is the thing.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
I got such a rude shock at first, because every
hook up in the past of mine before this, i'd
stayed over either me at their place, them at my place.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
And to me, it's not a big deal.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
It's like the equivalent of offering a glass of water.
It's like, oh, you can crash if you want.

Speaker 14 (45:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Most of the time, there's no discussion.

Speaker 16 (45:32):
You don't know where that person's been. I mean, okay,
having said that you'd.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Get you, they've been in you, you know exactly where,
Like where do you draw the line when it comes
to exchanging germs? And so I used to be like, oh,
it's fine, it's no big deal, which I still kind
of believe, Like I'm not fussy about sleeping, Like I'll
crush on someone's couch whatever. Yeah, I'm not it's not
a big deal. But you crashed on my couch the

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other week exactly Like I don't care. I'm not one
of those I have to be in my own bed
kind of people, right. But when I was evicted from
the home recently, it's.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Through the window, it's time to go. Mitchell, You're like,
what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (46:12):
But I was thinking to myself, I have lived with
my housemate for a year now, and he is I've
never once woken up and had someone that he's been
hooking up with there the next morning.

Speaker 16 (46:23):
Like he's a normal person.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Yeah, exactly, he's like yous and he just he likes
his own space. Once he's done with them, he's done with.

Speaker 16 (46:31):
As soon as we're done. I need their I need
them and their skin particles as far away from my
house as possible.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
What do you mean by as soon as you're done?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah? Like, are we talking once you've both finished? Or
is you very selfish? Like you get off and then
it's like you just take yourself and.

Speaker 16 (46:45):
You you know, okay, I mean you can have a
bit of a chat, but like just like go then
like go go.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Hold on, sorry, I'm just gonna want them. I'm going
to do something. Hold on, wait there is it just me?
Could you not live with yourself if you kick someone
out of your home after sleeping with the.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Movie I would watch a YouTube.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I will get the linen out, I'll put it. I
could not kick someone out after kissing someone, let alone
copulating with someone in my own bed.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
I thought you would feel that, said this.

Speaker 16 (47:21):
Having said this, my ex boyfriend the first time at
him was a hook up, and I let him say
because I was absolutely just like taken aback. I was like,
oh my god, I want him to.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Stay here forever, right, romance.

Speaker 16 (47:33):
It's been the only time ever. But other than that,
get out.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
But what's the problem with it?

Speaker 1 (47:39):
You've literally had them in your.

Speaker 16 (47:40):
Mouth, and my own insecurities, I just I just, I
just I just started.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
It's my insecurities keeping them there because I don't want
to be hated. Also, what I'm offering isn't exactly a
ten plus service, you know, so I want to make
sure they're happy with all the amenities because they might
not be thrilled we've what I was giving them, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I know I knew that you were going to feel
this way about this topic. I love that you've dedicated
your origin to it as well. You're that passionate you
would just make like breakfast in bed.

Speaker 7 (48:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
I mean, you kind of just came out of the
closet and then you were basically married. So I know
that you're not really that familiar with hook up culture,
but I feel like you would be such like you'd
probably freak them out with like the cleanliness.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
They'd wake up and you'd be making pancakes.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, you'd leave a towel on the end of the bed. No,
pancakes are too heavy and penetration. Well, when I last
time I hooked up with a woman, God feel like
eons ago. I did stay the night, but then I
did also wake up with a face full of blood.
I think I've told that story, haven't I just.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Can't get a bleeding no.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Well, that's the running theory, but we won't go into
the other.

Speaker 16 (48:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, and I stayed there with a bloody no, so
nothing would stop me. But so did you? Were you
offended that he asked you to leave.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Me at first?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
But then I thought about it, and I think some
people's brains are just wide differently, people like my house made,
people like Xander on the phone, like I reckon that.

Speaker 16 (49:05):
I think that you myself. I think myself if I
went to someone's house for a hook up and then
just invited myself to stay up towards that, I don't like,
why would you do that?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Well, I don't think you invite yourself. I think it's
just been coincidence that every time in the past. It
just hasn't anything. It's been like, oh, you can crash
if you want or someone.

Speaker 16 (49:24):
But I had someone come over and then it was
we kind of fish and then they were like, oh cool,
so like later tonight we can blah blah blah blah blah.
And I was like, blohlah blah blah blah blah, sorry tonight,
I have plans alone.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Yes, a mood, but you have to set boundaries.

Speaker 16 (49:38):
You do have to.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
So you said that the only person you've let stay
over has been someone that you had feelings for.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
That's why people like you Xander don't like having hook
up sleepover because they're that afraid of commitment. They're like,
oh god, I'm leading them on. They're catching feelings that
have to get out.

Speaker 16 (49:55):
Yeah, I'm just seeing a psychologist.

Speaker 12 (49:57):
Of this.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Law because I'm the opposite.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
I'm like, to me, it's not like a positive sign
or like, oh they must be into me because they're
staying over.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
It's just not a thing. It's it's like, you know,
relaxed crash if you want.

Speaker 16 (50:12):
Look, I am literally seeing a psychologist for commitment issues.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
For commitment issues.

Speaker 16 (50:17):
So this could be we might be getting too deep now.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Classic top energy, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (50:23):
Said?

Speaker 16 (50:24):
Queen bottom of self?

Speaker 6 (50:26):
Have you too?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Fuck?

Speaker 1 (50:27):
There's a weird energy in the room. Are they generally too?

Speaker 16 (50:31):
I am?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
It's creepy.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
We haven't fucked, just for the record, right, but.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
You do the matching part anyway?

Speaker 16 (50:40):
Awkward?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
No, please, don't awkward. If you make it awkward, kick
him out?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
All right?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
You're on the central coasts in a Yeah, no, that's
too far for a rout and food. If I'm not
if I'm not allowed to fucking say the night, I'm
not gonna bother here.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Oh well, you too? A body disgusting? Why don't you
find someone to marry? And you should start thinking about morals?
Oh god? No, thanks, well, thank you, Xander appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (51:05):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Happy fucking.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
See? Is it just me?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
All right?

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Since we're talking all things sex, how could we possibly
look past the moment, Cherri that someone wrote a fanfic
about you and I hooking up?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Listen, we get often asked this, So that is the
number one question I get asked about. Have you admitched?
Was there ever any love romance?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:30):
It's weird.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I don't know why people ask if we've hooked up before.
We haven't and no offense. Probably never will. But anyway,
this fanfick will describe what possibly could.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Happen if we were to hook up.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I suppose last week on the show, we were talking
about fan fictions, right, yeah, as in erotica, that people
write about people that they're fans of. Correct, So for example,
someone might write a dirty novel about no Hagrid and Dumbledore. Yeah,
they let their imagination run wild. And so we asked

(52:01):
our listeners to send in some fanfic.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
About you and I.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Mitch, Oh god, so prepared to be uncomfortable because I've
been sent some fanfic And it actually came from our
good mate talisiha Vescio, who, as you know Mitch, used
to be the co host with me on my old podcast,
Not My Cup of Tea.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, and do you want to hear it? She actually
sent it in as audio.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Oh you don't want any porn music or any sound effects.
It's all sorted.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
No, no, no, no, it's all sorted.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Great, I'm ready it is either.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
But she gave me a heads up. She said, you're
going to feel uncomfortable listening to it, Mitch, I.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Don't think I'm going to be able to look you
in the eyes if I'm honest while this is playing.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Oh well, thank god, I'm working from home.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
I know.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
All right, Let's roll this fan fiction for Mitch Koomb's
Mitch Jury from Talisha Vskio. I'm ready to hear hello to.

Speaker 12 (52:54):
The couple of Mitch's. It is talisiha, welcome to your
fan fic or your worst nightmare. Let's get into the reading,
shall we. So the trio had finally finished what could
only be described as the most disastrous recording of the
is It Just Me?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Podcast?

Speaker 12 (53:15):
From the very beginning, everything was going wrong, and Jenna
only added to the stress by offering less than usual
to the.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Podcast accurate that sounds.

Speaker 12 (53:25):
As soon as the recording ended next week, Jenna abruptly
got up from her stool and announced, Oh, I'm going
to get to tea, and Coombs excused himself to the
producer's booth to calm down. This left Chury alone in
the studio, who was stressed and feeling flustered from the ordeal.

(53:46):
He wiped a single beat of sweat from his forehead
and licked it off his finger. His finger lingered there
for a moment, and he slid it between his lips.
His eyebrows shot up and he realized he was getting
quite quickly aroused. He swirled his tongue around his finger

(54:07):
and closed his eyes as he rocked back in his chair.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
He placed his free.

Speaker 12 (54:12):
Hand on the desk to stabilize him as his erection
grew in his cheeks. He pulled his finger from his
mouth and traced down his body and unzipped his fly
in one fluid movement.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Wow, he knew what he needed to do to.

Speaker 12 (54:27):
Relieve the stress in his body. Of what he wrapped
his hand around and held it against his body, and
he slipped a slight moan from his lips. At that moment,
Coombs suddenly looked up to the speaker and realized the
microphone was on. Coombs lingered in the producer's booth for
a short time, and his mind began to wander should

(54:50):
he tell him, should he leave him alone? Or should
he join him?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
No, my god.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
He stood up and made his.

Speaker 12 (54:58):
Way to the studio door, where he peered through a
glass panel to see Churi completely exposed with his leg
up on the desk. He was curious and was beginning
to get aroused by the scene unfolding in front of him.
Kombs tried to get Churi's attention from outside the door,
but realized he needed to go in. He lightly pushed

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on the door and entered the room. Churi was startled
and tried to cover himself. It's okay, said Coombs, leaning
against the door with a smirk creeping over his lips,
he moved towards the desk, biting his lip. Churuy looked shocked,
but was now feeling more intrigued. No Koombs looked into

(55:45):
Churi's eyes, searching for permission, and he climbed aboard his lap,
Struggling Churi's around get He lingered there for a split second,
one hand guiding Churi to his entrance and the other
pulling down the fader. Just turned the fader off, Kumbs whispered,
before letting Chury inside him. Kumbs rode Chury like a

(56:10):
horse from the farm and dug his nails into his
chest for stability. Guys, I think we need to re
record that was an absolute master with a jenna. Flinging
the studio door open with a cup of tea in hand,
Kums clambered off Chury and flung his bare body against

(56:30):
the wall in an attempt to hide, but it was
too late. Oh no, Jenna stood opposite Churi, who was
still exposed.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
What's going on in here?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
So that's that was that?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Wow? I hope you.

Speaker 12 (56:47):
Thank you so much for coming to my reading.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Well done to shut very good writing, very good.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
I'm so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, I'm just going to turn the webcam off for
the rest.

Speaker 10 (57:02):
It was a bitter movement. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
So if you guys didn't quite keep up with a
story In a nutshell, Mitch was wanking in the studio
and I just decided to hop on board, and I
was making a tea.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, and I was trying to search for your entrance.
Why in that story was I the most disgusting beast
deciding to jerk off after tasting my own sweat, which
it was a real plot floor And it's a single
bead of sweat, which is not me. Its entire service
of body.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Sweat always drenched.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, yeah, there is a real like she really lingered
on the fact that you were a bit of a creep.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
I'm not the creepy one.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
I just helped myself, but you were the one that
was wanking in the first True, you're fine.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
You just saw an opportunity that I'm sure you've wanted
to do since today you met me and nine.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
I think the biggest plot floor is that Jenna storms
back in the studio and says, guys, we need to
re record.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
This was a disaster.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
If this was real life, I would have turned to
her and said, you're not the boss here, bitch, I'm
having a ride.

Speaker 16 (58:10):
Is it just me?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
You can follow the show online, just search a couple
of mitches. If you don't, you're a tickhead.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
All right, Well that is us done. Best be it's
number three ticked off the list. We only have two
more of these to go and then we're back.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Next week's a big one. I will say, yeah, well,
this is.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
One of your favorites, and this is a segment that
you created, Mitch. We're doing the best of talkback things.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I mean, how do get arrow it down?

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Talk back tings is not only one of our favorite segments,
but our listener's favorite segments as well. So we've had
to narrow down some of the best talkback teams have
done over time. And yeah, it's going to be jam
packed with good shit.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
I promise.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Well, if you knew here, and maybe you've only heard
one of our more recent talkback tings, We've been doing
it since the start of the show, way back when
it's years old. So, Mitch and I mean, I work
in radio, Mitch, that's how we met in RAID, a
radio station. We love, oh boy, we love am radio,
talkback radio. I've been listening to a lot, actually, Mitch.
When I did the breckystin in December, I would listen
to AM radio in the morning. So I have some

(59:04):
freshies when we start season five. But things, oh yeah,
oh god, I actually have some plagiarism from another radio
station from our podcast. But hold that, stop it.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, so we have to wait until we're back for
season five for all that.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Yeah, a long hook. This is a wizard. A couple
of weeks, maybe the first episode back, we can do
a talkback tings and I can play for you what
has been plagiarized from our show on another network. It's
all I'm going to say.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Well, let me tell you that during the drive out
to Bogan Gates when Sean and I are in the car. Yes,
oh my god, we took so many notes and like,
that'll be good for talk back things. That'll be good
for talk back things. I think I've converted him into
hate listening to talk back radio because there were some
fucking cooked callers coming through.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
That whole trip. It was just wild. So I can't wait.
Talk back things will be back with it Vengeance in
season five.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
All right, but next week we're going through the back catalog,
the best of talkback tings, our best bits. Episode four.
You then, guys, look after yourselves. We love you, We'll
see you soon, Love your chicks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Is it just Me?

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
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