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May 11, 2025 • 15 mins

We got to bid 2024 farewell at Beyond the Valley Festival in Victoria, Australia and we had a tiiiiiime! As our very first live show, we were honoured, nervous and excited to take the stage with a new audience. We also loved Milo Hartill as the host of the Podcast Stage for the festival. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
How are you guys doing. Have you been surviving? Have
you had fun?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah? Great?

Speaker 3 (00:08):
So excited to be here today, especially given how we're
actually in person. Usually we're long distance. I'm based out
in Prague and Amanda's based here and noam so.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeah, we know all about long distance, especially long distance friendships,
so this is quite exciting to have room be here
in Australia with us today.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Speaking our friendship. Amanda, what are we doing today?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
So our podcast has always been based on being away
from each other, so it's always lots of long chats
ever since we were in high school without showing our age.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
That was the early noughts.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, it's been over twenty years of being friends, so
we thought we'd kick start with something around friendship.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Did everyone get some paddles? Yes? Okay Amanda, do you
want to explain what we're doing here? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
So, not only to use these to fan yourself because
it is freaking hot, you can also use them as
red flag green flag, So be asking you guys questions
and without too much effort, you can just tell us
if it's a red flag or a green flag. Milo
will be going around asking people to give their opinions.

(01:17):
If needed sounds good? Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay? Take us away?

Speaker 4 (01:23):
So what if your bestie has poor communication skills?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Is that a red flag or green flag?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
I'm happy to see there's no green flags out there?
Actually I see one. Okay, green flag for you poor
communication skills? That's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Every reach to their own.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, maybe it doesn't care like true true, okay? And
then the next one being able to have a meaningful
conversation with your friend long distance friend, red flag or
green flag?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Definitely green flag? That one. I think I don't think
we would have made it this fall about it?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
What about having to deal with different time zones when
catching up?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm the worst actually at time?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I remember, what's the time now in prad?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
What's the time now here? I think it's like one pm,
so it should be like three am. So yeah, I'm
really bad. It's really, really, really horrible having another best
ye is that a red flag of green? Should they
only be one friend?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Do you know? Drake?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
He sang a song called no New Friends? Are you
aware of that?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
So?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Like, if you have a best friend, is there only
one best friend? Are you allowed to have multiple? How
do you feel about that? On a good day, I
see some green flags.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, I think that's a green flag. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think you mustn't have too much fun without me.
I feel like there's like a level on.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Like, don't have too much fun without me? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Having to travel to see each other, Yeah, that one's
a bit of a miss for me.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's too expensive all the way to Europe every time
to catch up. Exactly awesome.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
We all know, and we all love cuffing season, and
especially now. Maybe not so much in the summer time,
but definitely for you in the winter.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, we know what.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Cuffing season is, says everyone know what cuffing season is.
It's basically when you're tied down for a certain period,
typically in the winter time.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Did I understand that correctly?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, so cuffing season is when you're tied down
over a specific period. So what's the first question around
bad red flag getting into relationships? What do you think
if your new person is dating does not use any
social media?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
This is a great one.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's a green flag, green flag.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh, we need my little's opinion, please please, I'd love
to hear the.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Thought process behind not having social media.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
My partner if they do have social media, But I
like I've got like thirty k so I'm always on
my phone, but my partner has one hundred and fifty
followers and it so sexy to me. They're like, I
don't need to follow anyone else. I just follow you.
I get my fix of my heart fat black wife,
and then I.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Lug off and that's perfect. I should be the only
one you want to say.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I think for me is when it's like the initial
stages and you're trying to find out information about them
and there is one post from twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Can't really tell too much from that.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, you can't really stalk and gain a sense of
who they are. No, but that's good. I want everyone
to look at their Instagram and go, oh, high school pictures.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Fugly, And I'm like, yeah, girls don't go on their Instagram.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, okay, okay, great point. Thanks thanks for that. What
about someone who checks their phone constantly but takes forever
to text you back checks their phone?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
We can't do that.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Nah, Yeah, I don't know who you're talking to, boo,
it best be me.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, but Amanda, what about you know? They say like,
maybe they're on Instagram, but they're not replying to your texts.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
How do you feel about that? You should be talking
to me? Like, who else are you talking to? I
get that?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
What about if they don't label the relationship after a
few months of dating red flag red flags or situationships?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Can I ask someone in the audience how long is
too long? Like before you make it official tissue? Anyone
want to answer for us?

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Over there?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
We've got a paddle up there, the gentleman with the cap.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Yeah, you look wise well for me, there is not
actually like a specific time frame. It's like depending on
how you feel with the other person and which is
the agreement then you have with the other person, right,
I mean like, yeah, no one has said up a
specific time less than the person's involved.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
True, Okay, you have a point, you have a point there.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
But if you're going towards the one year mark, we
have a conversation.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
That's a full on relationship.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
To me, you do you want to feature on the
social media accounts? Room be or is that?

Speaker 7 (06:05):
Like?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Well after what Milo said, now, I'm like, should I be?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Like?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
But I think some level of like there's someone in
their life. You know, some people look single and they're
in a full on, blown relationship.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Do you understand like energy? I think your social media
gives so if you're giving single, I might be a
bit concern.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah, no, I think yeah. It depends on the person
and the vibes, definitely.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
What about a room be traveled from Prague? Yeah, all
the way to make it here and obviously BTV. We're
all here to see artists from all over the world,
So travel for Australians is huge.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
You guys are on the other end of the world.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, you like took twenty four hours minimum to get here.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
So with your bestie travel buddy, what's a green flag,
gad flag? If they fill the whole itinerary for you
with excursions, travel tours, thing to do?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I see a.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Red flag, I see some green flags. How do you
feel if the itinerary is full? I'm a go with
the flow person.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
What about you, Yeah, I'm a Can you sleep?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
I can't here to sleep?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
What about you're trying to make the most of your time?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
True, I suppose it depends on the location and where
you are. You know, if it's a beach holiday, I
don't need to go and see lots of things.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's very Okay, what about if your travel buddy loves
to stay up late and sleep in? Red flag or
green flag? I see red flag, I see green flags too.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
So it's a mixed, mixed messaging happening here. Anyone cared
to share why it's a green flag? I'm curious to know.
Could I ask you you're lying on the ground, if
you can answer for us?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Why is it a green flag? If they like to
stay up late and sleep in.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
Because that's me, That's what I did. Facts, So if
you're up to like four am and then you need
a lion, so.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
This is fair.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
This is how would you feel if your travel buddy
didn't like that though? So you like to sleep in,
stay blade sleep in and they like like to get
to bed early.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Would you travel with them at all? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (08:20):
I would if we have like activity to during the day,
like okay, there's like a day trip that I'd get
up for it.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
But okay, power through that's great, awesome. What about hanging
out by the beach all day or the pool? Is
that your type of vibee flag? Definitely green flag for me,
let's do more.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Listen when I'm on vacation, I want to enjoy that, unless,
of course it's a specific like we need to get
things done, but I'm all here for lasing around. Yeah yeah,
what about traveling on a budget, So we'll only stick
to hostels or backpackers?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Green, I see green, I see mixed. Okay, Okay, what
about you and man?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Pray tell, guys, pray tell.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I think I'm just a luxury girly.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I love backpackers look, and I think it's such a
good vibe to meet people, but I want to party
there and stay somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think we were also in boarding school and that
pretty much was like backpacking. Well, we're still living for
like six years of our lives, and I think we're good.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
It's like it was, we've had enough. Yeah, we've had enough.
We've had enough. Okay.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
In the last one loves to post on social media
in real time.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Red flag, green flag, green flag. Okay. Yeah, I love the.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Answers coming through. Diverse, diverse, come through, come through. So
again we speaking on travel. We're both Szimbabwe and girlies
and we're a long way from home. But there are
some things we absolutely love or hate about being African, right,
So we thought we'd share a little bit about that
because that's something we we talk about on our podcast,

(10:02):
sort of the dichotomy of being Africans living in the diaspora.
So red flag or green flag, I'll ask you, Amanda,
someone asking where we are from then proceeding to tell
us about a whole other different African country.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, there's fifty plus countries in Africa, and I'm expected
to be an expert on every single one of them
at a moment's drop. It's a big no. It's an
inch for me, Like I'm just like, yeah, you need
to see the world more. I mean, we don't do
that with Europe typically. If I say I'm from Spain,
I'm from Spain, you don't ask me about Finland. So
it's like the same concept and it's so annoying and

(10:40):
people just don't even think past that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Or how they feel like Africa is a country or yeah,
so oh you're from Sababa. I have a friend from Kenya,
would you happen to know them? And I'm like sure,
I've never been to Kenya myself, but totally yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I agree. What about the sea in our food? In fact,
all of African.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Cuisine African cuisine, is it?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's flavorful? Flavorful?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
How many of you have had African food could be Nigerian,
could be, Senegalese, could be Okay, Milo, what have you
tried to do anything in particular?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
You like Nigerian foods, that's it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Also food from Ghana, Yeah, I agree. I agree Botswana
and I hate Botswanan food.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Well a whole out of sun that.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'm going to ask you if you like Zimbabwean food
to be fair?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is it patriotic to say no?

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I love Zimbabwean snacks, but the actual traditional food.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, you can give it a miss. Go for Nigerian
and I think.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I agree West African food is it? Even East African
is really really good. I like Ethiopian food really dope.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Our love of music, dancing, fashion, Oh that's a green flag.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I think everything we do entertainment.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Wise is steeped in African co like it or not,
all genres of music like it or not. And yeah,
I think people need to give credit where credit is
due more often.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
And I love that for the most part we have rhythm,
but I do know a lot of Africans who do
not have rhythm, So that's just you know, to debunk
a myth that's out there.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Yeah, we can't all twa yeah for sure, sure awesome.
What about our hair?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think it's one of my favorite things about being black,
being African is just the versatility of our hair. I
think you can be whoever you want to be on
any given day and it's just really fun. I have
a lot of fun with it. As you can tell
our hair. We had a bit of fun with what
we did today. But I think, yeah, absolutely, that's what

(12:55):
I really love about our hair.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
What about for you?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think for me it's yeah, the diverse we have
behind our hair. It's misunderstood in a lot of contexts,
but I think, yeah, it's it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And the last one around where we're from is African
relatives always staying in everyone's business.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
How you feel about that.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I think that's why I moved all the way to
Australia as far way possible as I could. Yeah, yeah,
it's always it's always a problem when that's happening.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
To give you context, so where we're from, there's no
such thing as like this is my brother and sister.
Only it's like you're all fam and like there's no
distinguishing and you know, anyone can tell you off your aunt,
your uncle, your uncle's friend. It's yeah, social is a problem.
But before we go, Amanda, I thought we could just

(13:50):
talk a little bit about our podcast, about the premise,
why we started it, and why we're excited for what's
to come.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Can you tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I think why we started it was to debunk myths,
as you said, give a bit more context to who
we are as a people. I think Australia is so multicultural,
but sometimes we see it through only specific lenses, so
it's good to always give variety, and that's what we're
here for. Really, yeah so I think, But then you
actually realize as much as we look different, at the

(14:21):
end of the day we're all we can be all
the same and discussing love, relationship, sex, all that stuff,
and then the day we all have similar thoughts even
though we look different.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I agree completely, and I think it came to be
during COVID. You know, it was a time when we
were catching up a lot, and I think it really
highlighted to us the importance of making meaningful time to converse.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
And connect with each other.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
And that's I think what has sustained our friendship all
these years in spite of all the distance.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
So that's a little bit about us.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Everybody I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, we've had such a good time being part of
this and beyond the valley, it's been a good experience
for us, I think.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, thank you so much for having us. Thank you
so much, guys, eating Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
And we look forward.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
We have season six coming up soon, so please, if
you have a paddles you can scan and find out
more information about us.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
But yeah, thank you so much for having us.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Or use them as a fan because it's hot. Thanks guys. Awesome.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
All right, y'all, that is the wrap of the podcast stage.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I hope you have had a good fucking time and
that none of you die tonight.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Please make sure you drink water, put your rubbish in
the bin, go to the drug testing camps if you're
someone that's potentially gonna pull it hard tonight.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
And I've been my low hotel. I'll see you come
at midnight.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Bye.
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