April 21, 2024 • 35 mins
Welcome to The Special Series!
We know, we know! You’ve gotten to know us before and we’re doing it again! Here’s the thing, we last did a ‘Delve Deeper On Us’ as our very first episode - a whole 4 years ago. A couple of things have changed since then - and we’d like to think we’ve grown a little too.
In this episode, we talk about our green flags, what would bring us knocking on each other’s door late at night; fun facts and tidbits for you to enjoy.
Let us know what surprised you, what tracks and what you thought we’d say in the comments!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of this
land that we record this podcast on and pay respects
to the elders, past, present and emerging.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We must always remember that under the concrete and asphalt
that this land is, was, and always will be Aboriginal Land. Hi.
(00:31):
I'm Rumby. Hi, I'm Amanda. Welcome to its lad In
Studio a special edition. Can you Roomy was going to
do that standard operating procedure. Where are we, Amanda? Oh
my gosh, Roomby, Welcome to Melbourne. Thank you. It's been
a long time coming and I'm so thrilled to be here.
(00:55):
We're so happy that we could be together and doing
it in video.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
This is the next level crazy, Like I'm just like,
who are we? Where's our little laptop?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah? Literally, I feel so like, oh my gosh, where's
my little zoom? You know? Press record? Have your press record? Well,
we hope their preys record and are actually recording because that.
But no, I'm so excited. I've only been here for
about a day. It's still jet lag. But you know
how we do have to get on the mic ready
(01:27):
to go, you know, to bring you the goods, the
good goods. Yeah, so I made you come to Melbourn
rmbe Okay, do I have to have a reason to
see you? Maybe, I don't know. No, definitely see you,
to spend Christmas with you and see your rom. He's
such a big boy. I saw him last at Christmas
last year, so it's so crazy to see how much
(01:50):
he's grown. And so we're just so happy to be
here with the family and spend time with you and then.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Get to do this like recording in studio, something you've
wanted to do forever ages in person. So thank you
to the team behind the scenes, getting us together.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Getting us together. What are we going to be talking
about today?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, I think it's been such a long time since
we've done our getting to know us I think season
one and now in season five, and so much growth
has happened.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Absolutely, you know, we're both.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Married, now, I have a kid, Like, so many things
have happened that like we thought, why not.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Rewind and go back and also get better insight into us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
So we're gonna start off with a bit of an
icebreaker because you know we're new to this. You know,
we just got nice things today, Okay, and that's all
I'm saying, I'm not gonna lie. So we're gonna start
with a bit of an icebreaker. We're gonna pick a
card from this job over here. If you're watching, So,
(02:54):
Amana do the honors like he did, We love like
you did, go for it? Am I asking you all
my answering.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh, who's the most likely to start a controversial conversation?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I think both of us, but I think Amanda more.
So I'm gonna put it out there. Am I right?
Am I? Yeah? I think me. Yeah, I just be like,
let me ask. You're not afraid. I feel like you're
not afraid of going there. So, yeah, who's naught here?
Just because it's Christmas? You don't have to be asking?
(03:33):
I would say, me tell us why. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. Actually, I think it's
just you don't give a damn about more things than me. Yeah,
I think you would.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Probably you want to be, but you're probably overthink it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But you're also an overthinker. But I think not. You're nice,
You're just like whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Also, you know, I think my mom not being around
helps because there's no one to tell you the wrong. Wow,
you said what are your social media it?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Hey, I don't know. Everyone thinking they're an expert. That's
probably the thing that irretates me all the time. Like
I'm just like just because it doesn't mean you're all experts.
And also people taking what someone says on social media
as the bible. It's like, do your research, read an article,
go and grab a tree, yeah, read a book, climate tree,
(04:25):
walk barefoot. I don't know, do something with your life.
I don't know. Don't get everything from social media?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know what I feel you with that because a
lot of times, obviously now with momhood, people be like, oh,
I've got the sleeping training schedule, Like if you do this,
your kid will sleep through the night.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Then download my health Like, girl, like just tell us
the secret. I don't need to be downloaded book. Oh
yeah whatever, it is just like your e book. I mean,
I love entrepreneurship, but so bo's just like.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They hook you too much everything let me tell you
or like when they're like let me give you tips
and you're like, you actually didn't give me anytims. This
is common Yeah, so true, so true. That's a cool one.
What are your fashions? Oh, that's good for you.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think I've already shared on my social media a
clip of Rihanna saying when people don't are not authentic
to themselves, And I think that one definitely is for me.
But also when people are stuck in the rat oh yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Then they don't want to do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So like you've already approached me, So I would assume
you've already done the like emotional journey of going okay,
I don't want to dress myself, but then you're not
quite ready for the chick Like I'm okay to hold
your hand over the line, but I can't convince you. Yeah,
so there's a fine line, like it's like okay, why
(05:48):
are you here?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, if you weren't ready to Also like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So do you feel like you have to be like
a therapist? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, And it's fine and
the person eventually comes around. But then sometimes it's like
a lot of back and forth with emailing especially, and
then you can't charge for that, right, and it's like
my time is money at this and your time is
also money.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So it's also like okay, you want this done or
do you really? Do you really? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, So for me, it's quite hard Okay, let's see
who's most likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Amanda, I think this is you. Like no, like I
can in a situation be sociable, but like I like
to avoid talking to people in general. I don't really
like people. I don't know if i'm so any people
of this.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I don't like having people, but I love having a
podcast talking to people.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so of course that's why your one can strike
up a conversation with strangers. I can do it if
I need to. I've had to learn how to be sociable,
you know what I mean. But like you've always been
see people. I see you as a friend. So for me,
it's so hard to see you not striking up. I
feel like you do. Like even today when you picked
up stuff, you're like, Hi, okay, she's on it. I'm
(07:01):
just being polite. Like I don't ask them about their life.
You will ask people at about your life, though, And
you're very sociable, Like even when you were in school,
you were like she was she talked about I'm very
much an interviet I'm like, who are you? I don't
need to know you, Like, give me my space. That's
what I'm saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So
is it my turn? Okay? Sorry, I'm losing track. Are
(07:21):
we doing all of these? I don't know. Okay, you
can just girl who is gullible? I think the fact
that you you that will be you. It's true. And
y'all you and my sister actually like to make fun
of me actually because you know how gullible I am,
and then they talked him against me.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
This thing is you're also quite confident with it, like
you're like, did you guys hear this song with this
that was out a year ago or something?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You're like, oh, I just heard it. It's like where
have you been? And the funny thing.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is you love being like pop culture, and so when
you find something that you don't know I really just
know cute about it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And it's like, how does she like? Where did this?
And I'm val word about a lot of things like
it really just like misses me completely, so.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But it makes you you. Okay, another pair. Okay, I
don't know how much time someone timing us, because it
could be here forever. Who's most likely to take off
their earrings and grab their vesseline?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Is that even a question. Guys, take a guess that
would not be me, though, it would not be me.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, okay, I can't see I'm just saying that. But
having said that, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Think if someone pushed you, I would, but I'm not violent.
Oh yeah, I'm not violent. Yeah, but you you I
use my word, Yeah, you'd use the words. I think
you'd use your words before me. Yeah, I'll just be like,
I don't think that's nice, but I reckon both of
that's a huge tolerance.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, before like, if you see me going there then
and you and for me, I really don't like to
be angry.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So when you see me angry, it means like you've here.
Yeah yeah, yeah you yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah. That's the people pleaser, and that's probably that's true.
Some therapy is needed.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Why do we always go back to therapy? I feel
like every podcast episode goes back to we should get
a therapy. Have we talked about that? This is our therapy, guys, Yeah,
this is therapy. Thanks for being here in the session
with us. Okay, all right, So now we're going to
get into some other questions getting to know us. Still
some fun, some a little more serious. So I'll start
with a fun one. Okay, let's go. If I randomly
(09:27):
showed up at your house at one am without telling you, why,
what would you immediately assume is going on without telling
me why? Assuming we live together? Yeah, this is like
it's long.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, I would think something happened with you and Tom.
Oh it has to be that, Yeah, because I think
Tom would never let you leave the house at one am.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'll come with you. That's so she wrapped up alone. Yeah,
that actually got.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I would think what's happened or what happened to Tom. It's
either what's happened between you or what's happened to Tom.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, I think so. I think it's actually not a
fun question now, but who put that under? Fine? I'm like, oh,
that's actually deep with you. I think for you to
be like we're going out, yea, let's go, let's go,
baby said I locked in, Let's go, turn up, turn up. Yeah,
(10:20):
I think that would be you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I just think you would like overthink it. You'd be like,
one am rocking up?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Why am I doing that? Yeah? And also trouble would
also be like where are you going? I'll definitely overthinking.
I'm like I don't want to wake people up, it's
too much, you know type of thing that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
What's one story about us that you're definitely gonna tell
your kids?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Oh, how we thought we were sugar in high school?
And then like I wrote a song and recorded it, like,
let's cooreograph. We're gonna be in the interact variety show
and show them how it's done. And we didn't show
them how jealousy jealousy people blocked us. They really shut
it down, shut it down. But I think that's so cute,
(11:00):
Like what happened to that song? Needs to release? This?
My sister had the CD somewhere and every time I
listened back to like, cringe, cringe, cring, Why because you
did record it in the studio? And yeah, I did
it all that I think, But to be fair, like, oh,
actually my son writing schools are not bad, like for
like a fifteen year old's fifteen sixteen. Yeah, maybe one day,
(11:23):
maybe maybe I re record. You know how these artists
when they don't have rights to their masters and then
they do already record. How that would be? I think
such a full circle moment song. Yea, sony, you heard that?
Please find it? Thank you? Okay, this is supposed to
be a deeper question. What would most people be surprised
to learn about you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Maybe that I'm very sensitive, Yeah, very very hyper sensitive.
Yeah more than I like let it go on. I
just keep it insides and I'm like a duck on water.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But then under there them legs be kicking, like I'll
you know what you say about and I like replay
conversations in my head.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Should I say that? Should have? I remember in high
school because for some reason, everyone felt they should emotionally
dump on you, Like everyone used to go to a
man and be like I'm going through this or whatever.
And I remember you saying to me, what about me?
And I think that's so true to what you're saying,
because you do seem like the strong friend, you know
when they say check on your strong friends. A man
(12:28):
that definitely gives that energy. But she's also like a
soft spirit inside. So that's an element that people. Yeah,
what about you? Surprise that I'm an introvert? No, we
all know the chain and shift don't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Actually Yeah, people who don't know you, Yes, they don't
know because they're singing and the ad libbing.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, I'm very much an intervert. I love my I
can be alone all the time. I'm like, why do
I have to go outside? Like why do I? I
don't like people? I think I've already said twice, but like, yeah,
but most people are like there's no way, and I'm like,
I learned to be a functioning member of society and
have social skills, but they've always been for me.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's always been no way with you. I've never seen
you as I could think what's the middle one and
be ambivit.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, I think that's what you are. Yeah, because yeah,
you I don't know. Maybe I haven't whopped, No, I
get it, but I think I can understand why what
is an intro? Like people throw that word around? For me,
I define it as I get charged up by being
alone and people. Being around people takes energy out of
me and a thousand percent does. That's why I'm like,
(13:39):
how was I a teacher for so long? Because that's
like the complete like energy drain. So yeah, definitely, all right,
now you have to answer this question about me. Yeah,
what is something I can't live without? Ooh? Music? Like
do I think that far? Actually that was a bit fast,
(14:01):
Like sorry, this is obviously objects Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
it will be music and for you something you can't
live without. I would also say music because I think
we really thrive on that wavelength.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
In another life, I am a singer, and the life
our child like people I don't know, like Brandy, I
don't know, sound like such a millennial. My reference points are.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Sel you need to be saying a little uzy, what
was what these baby little baby Beyonce?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
But like, yeah, you know, like I think, like when
I see like, yeah, Beyonce is movie, what if I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Like, man, that would have been me? It would have
been me on that stage. It's true, It's true. It's
my voice. Didn't you have a voice. We're in quiet
together for the longest, so yeah, but not yeah, but
who's on Beyonce? So true?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, if you turned on the TV and saw me
on a reality show, would show to be and what
will I be doing on it?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think you'd be next in fashion? Claim it? Claim
it because you like fashion, like think of that one. Wow,
it just came to me because I was going to
say The Real Housewives because I know you like it,
but for you actually to be active on a show,
I think you would be next in fashion. And I
think you would be a stylist or a judge on there.
(15:24):
I don't know if you're really a like designer designer
in terms of the suwing, but I think you'd have
a lot of opinion about like how people put things
together or helping people put things together, so like Next
and Fashion or Project Runway, like Fashion Police. Yes, I
can see you on Fashion Police. That's going to be
my answer for you.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
People think like I think it's like a pop culture
critic for sure. I don't know if there is one.
Is there one? BuzzFeed is what buzz pop?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
E pop?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It used to be on E some pop something see
you know them already, So that's what I would picture.
I cannot see on a reality show.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, I don't have time for that. Yeah, people dealing
with my My little note about reality shows is that
like life has enough drummer, I don't need to be creating,
like manufacturing for TV like relax. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know, Like I just can't see you arguing
and going into all the like reality show is good,
but people are arguing because that's why we don't watch
it for happy days.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
We watched before you.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Know, the drumming, no drums yeah, they'll drain your energy
for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'll just be like, actually I don't need this and leave.
And I don't think that next to the TV. I'm
just saying, the producer will be like, Okay, that's not
what we started up for. Okay, get in mode. All right.
My next question for you is if you had never
met me before, what would your first impression of me
be after spending thirty minutes together.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It would be totally wrong, but my first impression to
be like, she's loud.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think, oh my gosh, it's loud.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
She's super like you are super confident, but you know
that's super confident.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Where it's like she's yeah, like you know, run the
room like yeah. I would be like, it's a lie.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So that's why I think people will be like what, yes, true,
because I think your first impression is the utter opposite
of what you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Really self as. Yeah. I think maybe it's also a
bit of projection or self preservation. You're kind of like,
I put this mask on so people don't try to
get so you go there first before they yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's why I think you would strike up
a conversation with a stranger.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Sorry, I'm not letting that one clearly. I'm like, but
you are more into it, like you be like feeling
someone just like so where are you from? Like when
on holiday? Like, oh yeah, so are you traveling? I think,
you know what, I actually think that's such an Australian thing.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, maybe because Aussies love a good like yah or
chat like more so than like even just joking around
and like greet each other, even people walking past in
the street like morning, I'm like, oh yeah, morning. You know,
when you go to London and New York, people will
be like, why are you talking to me?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
To me? Leave me alone? Somethink that's like an auto
culture thing. Well that's true. I would definitely think you're
like social butterfly, like friends with everyone, but you kind
of are like you're friendly with it Amanda. For those
who don't know, Amanda is like liked by many and
all like you just have, but known by few. Could
(18:32):
be true, but like I think, yeah, whereas for me,
I'm just like I don't have to now it sounds
like a mean person. I'm not meaning, but like, just yeah,
you you you give room and space for people in
a very like open way, like you're not afraid to
talk to people, like you give people second chances.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I'm very yeah, we work on the second chances thing, yeah,
very much. You know you make mistakes, but I havn't
said that. I also would let me it is the
librand me, you're walking over be like, I can't be.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Then I can be forgiving, but then I once I
cut off, just like anybody at time for this. So yeah,
that's true. What's your pet peeve? Then, when it comes
to people who my pet peeve is people who think
they're better than others, just like moving with that energy.
I really dislike that because I'm like, you don't know
someone's story. A lot of where we are in life
(19:26):
is also like lack of the draw sometimes, like you
don't choose where you're born, you don't choose how you look,
you don't choose, and of course we learn and develop
over time, but like, I don't think you're better than
someone just because I don't know superficial things. It really
frustrates me, Like it irks me, grinds my titties. I
always say, really hate it, But yeah, what about you,
(19:47):
what's a I think it's.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
The same, but more like maybe the obnoxious version. Well,
people were poor listeners. Oh yeah, Like you're talking to
someone and they're like oh yeah, then then I'm like okay,
I yes, I don't get a chance to say anything.
And there's a difference between someone who's loud and vivacious
but the convo is like blowing, whereas someone who's just
(20:10):
like blatantly not even listening to you, and like then
I'm just like why why.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Why are you even trying?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, and then they don't realize it as well. Self
awareness is a thing. It's crucial, Like I think we
all have our flaws, but please can we know about them?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And some eq yeah, gets some emotional intelligence, go buy
it somewhere rented. I don't know, try try.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
There's nothing worse than telling someone something that's so them
and they have no idea and then they look at
you like no, I'm not like that eye the room
is like oh yes you are, yes, you know, like
at least no, okay, I can be like this.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't. I don't intend. But don't you think it's
because it's hard for us to accept the not so
great sides of us, So then we just cellino and
I think only in adulthood. In the last few years,
have I really come to be like, it's okay to
you have the ugly side of you and embrace that.
I really struggle perfectionists. We've was like a million times. So, yeah,
(21:08):
what's something we've gone through together that's hilarious now even
though it was not funny when it happened. Oh, there's
so much So what relationship relationships? Lord, jeezuz so much
A long way. Yeah, we've come a lot of it hilarious.
Oh my gosh, I have a story. Yes, when it
(21:30):
was our leavers dance and then you have gone away,
Thank my girl. I can't help it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's the first tie that like just wand my livers.
It's so so kind two thousand and two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Six.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Wow, I don't think people listening to this podcast aren't
even born room.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Don't say that, Okay, don't say that. But I remember,
so my date flaked on me. I had a date setup,
I was like happy with my date, and then my
date flaked on me. And then last minute replacement replacement
through someone and we were in class with and so
this person ended up being super clean and just annoying.
(22:11):
And it takes a lot to annoy me, does it?
But like I found that time, I took a lot
to annoy me, and he was super cleaning and was
so frustrating, and I started running away this guy the
whole night. And then I like go to a man
and I'm like, oh gosh, I remember we took photos
and he wanted to be in the photo. And I've
(22:33):
never been so rude. Yeah, like shut him down, like
and running. I ran away the whole night. Then I
think something happened with this brother having to go to hospital.
He's like, no, I'll stay here with you, and I
was like, don't go to go he needs please go, please,
please don't stay. So that's a funny story, Like, but
then I was so annoyed, Like it was just annoying. Yeah,
(22:55):
being set up.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
By people before the age of the internet was not
good because you're like, kin't even say, can you show
me its profile?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah? Yeah, hello, you have to trust and quote unquote
someone's reference terrible.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, if someone told you had gone viral on TikTok overnight,
what would you assume I was doing in the video.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know why I'm laughing. It's going back to
the vaseline one. Oh my gosh, you're not going to
be the people. But like I think we have a
story where we were on holiday and we were traveling
with some person and then they were causing drama and
Amanda had had it like.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
She was here and she was like stop doing that,
like and they cried, You're.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Not gonna be and then she was like hold your friend,
your sister whatever. Like it was so like I'll live
forget her being so mad, and I was just like,
oh my gosh. So like it's it's a viral moment.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think for you to be singing, I don't know
why you're not singing room being Maybe I'm always sending
you like I'm that friend someone's saying doing a TikTok challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm likebbe yeah, she send it to me, And I
was like, waiting for your viral moment.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And I'll just be the friend from the world and
I'll be differendrom.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Remember it's supposed to be my stylist. Yes, okay, I
want to be differend. I want to be the what's
her name, Melissa is it? Oh? Yeah, Rianna. I'll be
a photographer something that I don't know that you can
be a stylist. Okay, let's work. Okay, fine, you just
come along for the ride exactly. Okay. The next one
(24:34):
for you is what are my biggest green flags?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Oh? How generous you are with your time, with your energy,
which is so funny because that's maybe that's what's training.
You're giving too much in the way, I think, so yeah,
maybe keep something.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's why I keep the group small, like the friends,
because I feel like I want to be committed, like
one hundred percent, and and then if they're too many people,
it's hard for me to be like, no, you only
get ten percent.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And you've always been able to see things from different angles,
which I think when you that's why we're saying they're
rolling vessel. And I'm like, okay, if I'm gonna be
that friend, then I can't have I need you.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Because then you're gonna be like girl, are you sure? Yeah?
Right there. Some friends were just like Okay, it was hot,
we'll be hot.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
There's some friends it's cold, now, will be cold, you know,
whereas I think you'd be like, okay, but did you
look at it from the different which can be very confronting. Yeah,
because obviously if you're sensitive about something someone says, have
you thought You're like, no, just look at it from
my ankle player, you know, but you're like.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
No, did you consider this? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And I think that's a valuable thing for people to
have in a social circle.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Thank you. I'll take that shill for me. You're green flags.
I think you're just like consistently there, like I don't
know how to explain it, and non judgmental. I think
I judge myself first, and then I'll tell Amanda something
and think she's gonna judge me. She's like why the hell,
(26:04):
Like no, there's no way I'll do. You're very supportive
in that, and you care about the person's well being.
So it's like I'm here for you as long as
you can get because someone may be like, yes, you
must get your ish together. I don't care, but like
you're patient in that way. I love that about you,
and I love that. I guess the whole premise of
(26:26):
this podcast, right is like you can we can delve
together and be like what about this? And it's like, oh,
what about this? And it's okay to have differing perspectives
on things. Yes, you know, even if you're good friends.
And I think That's very important because you can't be,
as we say, an echo chamber all the time. Yeah,
and you're just loving and kind and just you really thoughtful,
very thoughtful about others, thoughtful about whether it's gifts, but
(26:51):
you really think about a person first and try to
be there for them and make them happy in the
way that they can receive, which is because sometimes you do.
Sometimes you give what you would like to get, like
I had, I was taking it. I'll give you this handback, girl.
I was taking a course and this class meet was like, oh,
his friend gifted him a Star Wars tea shirt and
(27:12):
people are like, oh, do you like Star It's like, no,
my friend and my friend is someone who loves Star,
wasn't He was like, here's a T shirt? You know,
so people could do that, But you're very considerate of War.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I think there's libra energy. Do you have spend time
as of libras? We're very like balanced really and I
even think, Okay, the most famous one I can think
of is Kim k Please. I don't know why I'm
using as a reference point, but I am. But like, yeah,
I think she also has within the family strong stoic
when she's actually quite sensitive. Yes, that's you know, the
one who's thoughtful, the one.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Libra. Sorry, I don't know much about time.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You're Leo, which is why I don't know why you
think you're an interit as a Leo.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Do you know? I get you. I've been called the
leo because we don't have a great rip. You're not
a leo my mind. Your energy is not like but
people tell me like, yeah, but you like attention and
all that. So that's why I think the first impression question. Yeah, yeah,
that's I need to learn. Because there's the there's this,
then there's the moon sight, what's the earth? Oh yeah,
(28:12):
the time? So you have different yeah yeah, you have
different elements, so I need to find out what the
other thing is.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Maybe that's what balance. Yeah yeah, yeah, balance is me.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
If someone told you I was arrested, please do not
bring up the sale without giving any additional explanation.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What's the first assumption you'd make about it and why
they got the wrong person? Oh girl, thank you, you're
a true friend. Because I was like, I was going
to say then I'm like, actually, I'll be like, no,
it's not that deep. Yeah, we're arrested girl. I'm too
cute from she said, I'd be like and also a
man is very like logical. She's like, I got a kid,
(28:48):
I need to like, I support family. I had like,
there's no time to be missed on that. It's not
that deep.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Unless it's false accusations. Yeah, but then funny thing is
also being Zimbabwean.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Can you imagine nothing?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I mean yeah, people like, what were you doing? I
think for you it would be again case of mistaken
I cannot see it be.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Really like, yeah, I think a suppose we overthink everything.
So we're like trying to make sure you get all
the road Definitely, I think so. And for you, we're
on a road trip and you hand me the ors cable,
what song of artists do I put on? First? Beyonce?
Anything Beyonce first? You guys on my Spotify wrap, I
(29:31):
was told that I'm with the one percent of Beyonce,
and I'm like house sway, okay. I like Bey but
not like you clearly do. I'm not like that. I'm
not a b I really say I'm not a Bee Hyper.
I don't think I think I'm a secret bee Hyper.
I think so, But I definitely a hyper, I'm not certified.
In my head, I'm like, I'm more of a Solange
(29:52):
girl as much as she's not in your face like that.
Do you think you like solangees vibe? Yeah, vibe or
maybe Beyonce is more accessible I feel so, yeah, but
so she's there. I like Solange songwriting. I like how
she layers, you know, in her music so much because
Brandy is one of my favorite artists. But when she
does her harmonies, like she really and it's not so
(30:15):
much about the power, it's about the intricacies. But on
a day to day you know, I'll play Beyonce to
be fair.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, so I think Beyonce people gets people HiPE each
other way.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So like renaissance at the moment is just like if
that's the moment, the restaurant is always a constant, but
maybe more in the background. Yeah, like I'm cleaning, I'll
put the Solange, but I'm going out beyond for sure
for sure. But also don't like putting them against other
That's what the.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Completely different leagues of like totally.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And also I think Beyonce we grew up with her, like, yeah,
you know this since child we were growing up, she
was that girl, she's like a big cis energy.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Definitely, I think you If it's not Beyonce, I think
you do like a burner. Some afro has been my
top artist and four Yeah that's I love his raps.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Just be giving me props for that. Berner, Yeah, definitely,
I love his b D.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Like he just gives you like that, come correct, correct
otherwise I will miss up. He will tell you now.
He's the one to face like what are you saying? Yeah,
for sure. I watched this, like you know, these magazines
have these YouTube interviews and he had to try different
food or whatever. Literally was just like I'm not trying that,
Like like he gives that and he's like, Nope, not
(31:35):
doing that. He's sure of himself. Definitely, very sure. So
I asked you about getting arrested. Are we doing? Where
are we? Girl? We're finished. That's the end of it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I need to do run on ice breakst Sorry. I'm
hoping for one certain one clearly, So why don't you
just as he is most likely to write a book
that the one I wanted, So I must answer.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I think I would. I don't know. Do you think
that's correct? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Generally, and you should. I had this pipe dream of
doing it while I was a maternity leader. Okay, any
mother out there must be laughing at that now, because
you're smung some When was I going to be in
the middle of pumping and breastfeeding and doing all of
that writing a book.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But I have that on my heart as all that
I want to What would you write about? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think it'll be set as an autobiography, but it's
not to be a story, but very heavily inspired by
my life. Okay, you know, I think having like my mom,
you know, terminally ill at a young age, it just
gives you that life.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Can I just say, that's a wild thing. Like when
I think about it, I'm just like girls.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, I think creating itself is its own big So
I think I want a story in and around that.
And also the craziness of Zimbabwe, Like literally, if you
think about the things that we face, like people talk
about COVID, like, oh my god, you know, so much
happened in two three years, and I'm like check. Coming
from Zimbabla, we grew up thinking.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Our country was mine, traumatized.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Then all of a sudden we're like, yeah, you know,
now we have to leave too.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Now like family dynamics are all warped because we live
away from family. Like even Christmas, you coming over such
a huge thing. Otherwise it's just going to be matile
German and I having our food and calling it a day,
like it's not a big thing. And I think people
assume these things like you're close to family, But Zimbabwe
is just like shattered that whole idea.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And I think we grew up first because of the
way I don't know, like pretty much.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I mean knowing about economy and stuff like at a
young age or not being able to afford Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I always laugh. Remember when in history we learned about
you know, the Second World War and also Germany hyperinflation
and how they use wheelbarrows to go vibrand and we're like,
oh ho, meanwhile, meanwhile, that was reaching around the corner
for us.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And I also find it quite sad that every term,
remember school would give us a letter yes, and we
obviously opened it sorry parents, and it would like have
our fees for the next and then it won't be like.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Say bye, maybe it won't be here next year. You
don't know if your parents parents.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It was very real, all right, yeah, it's true and
the next time we'll be there.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Thank you, parents, thank you, thank you for sure. Well.
I enjoyed this episode. Was a nice like warm up.
It's so surreal, so beautiful having you here. I'm pinching
myself all the time. It hasn't registered for me, to
be honest, like, I'm still like what, but so grateful
to be here. Thank you. Amanda's welcomed this with such
(34:41):
warm open arms and just grateful that we can do this,
you know, the studio like definitely a moment we'll share
with our kids. Bringing back here question definitely anyway, So
thanks for listening and we look forward to catching on
our next episode. Bye, guy Zitos.
We would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of this
land that we record this podcast on and pay respects
to the elders, past, present and emerging.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We must always remember that under the concrete and asphalt
that this land is, was, and always will be Aboriginal Land. Hi.
(00:31):
I'm Rumby. Hi, I'm Amanda. Welcome to its lad In
Studio a special edition. Can you Roomy was going to
do that standard operating procedure. Where are we, Amanda? Oh
my gosh, Roomby, Welcome to Melbourne. Thank you. It's been
a long time coming and I'm so thrilled to be here.
(00:55):
We're so happy that we could be together and doing
it in video.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
This is the next level crazy, Like I'm just like,
who are we? Where's our little laptop?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah? Literally, I feel so like, oh my gosh, where's
my little zoom? You know? Press record? Have your press record? Well,
we hope their preys record and are actually recording because that.
But no, I'm so excited. I've only been here for
about a day. It's still jet lag. But you know
how we do have to get on the mic ready
(01:27):
to go, you know, to bring you the goods, the
good goods. Yeah, so I made you come to Melbourn
rmbe Okay, do I have to have a reason to
see you? Maybe, I don't know. No, definitely see you,
to spend Christmas with you and see your rom. He's
such a big boy. I saw him last at Christmas
last year, so it's so crazy to see how much
(01:50):
he's grown. And so we're just so happy to be
here with the family and spend time with you and then.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Get to do this like recording in studio, something you've
wanted to do forever ages in person. So thank you
to the team behind the scenes, getting us together.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Getting us together. What are we going to be talking
about today?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, I think it's been such a long time since
we've done our getting to know us I think season
one and now in season five, and so much growth
has happened.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Absolutely, you know, we're both.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Married, now, I have a kid, Like, so many things
have happened that like we thought, why not.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Rewind and go back and also get better insight into us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah.
So we're gonna start off with a bit of an
icebreaker because you know we're new to this. You know,
we just got nice things today, Okay, and that's all
I'm saying, I'm not gonna lie. So we're gonna start
with a bit of an icebreaker. We're gonna pick a
card from this job over here. If you're watching, So,
(02:54):
Amana do the honors like he did, We love like
you did, go for it? Am I asking you all
my answering.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh, who's the most likely to start a controversial conversation?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I think both of us, but I think Amanda more.
So I'm gonna put it out there. Am I right?
Am I? Yeah? I think me. Yeah, I just be like,
let me ask. You're not afraid. I feel like you're
not afraid of going there. So, yeah, who's naught here?
Just because it's Christmas? You don't have to be asking?
(03:33):
I would say, me tell us why. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. Actually, I think it's
just you don't give a damn about more things than me. Yeah,
I think you would.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Probably you want to be, but you're probably overthink it.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But you're also an overthinker. But I think not. You're nice,
You're just like whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Also, you know, I think my mom not being around
helps because there's no one to tell you the wrong. Wow,
you said what are your social media it?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Hey, I don't know. Everyone thinking they're an expert. That's
probably the thing that irretates me all the time. Like
I'm just like just because it doesn't mean you're all experts.
And also people taking what someone says on social media
as the bible. It's like, do your research, read an article,
go and grab a tree, yeah, read a book, climate tree,
(04:25):
walk barefoot. I don't know, do something with your life.
I don't know. Don't get everything from social media?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know what I feel you with that because a
lot of times, obviously now with momhood, people be like, oh,
I've got the sleeping training schedule, Like if you do this,
your kid will sleep through the night.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Then download my health Like, girl, like just tell us
the secret. I don't need to be downloaded book. Oh
yeah whatever, it is just like your e book. I mean,
I love entrepreneurship, but so bo's just like.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They hook you too much everything let me tell you
or like when they're like let me give you tips
and you're like, you actually didn't give me anytims. This
is common Yeah, so true, so true. That's a cool one.
What are your fashions? Oh, that's good for you.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think I've already shared on my social media a
clip of Rihanna saying when people don't are not authentic
to themselves, And I think that one definitely is for me.
But also when people are stuck in the rat oh yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Then they don't want to do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So like you've already approached me, So I would assume
you've already done the like emotional journey of going okay,
I don't want to dress myself, but then you're not
quite ready for the chick Like I'm okay to hold
your hand over the line, but I can't convince you. Yeah,
so there's a fine line, like it's like okay, why
(05:48):
are you here?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, if you weren't ready to Also like.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So do you feel like you have to be like
a therapist? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, And it's fine and
the person eventually comes around. But then sometimes it's like
a lot of back and forth with emailing especially, and
then you can't charge for that, right, and it's like
my time is money at this and your time is
also money.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So it's also like okay, you want this done or
do you really? Do you really? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, So for me, it's quite hard Okay, let's see
who's most likely to strike up a conversation with a stranger.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Amanda, I think this is you. Like no, like I
can in a situation be sociable, but like I like
to avoid talking to people in general. I don't really
like people. I don't know if i'm so any people
of this.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I don't like having people, but I love having a
podcast talking to people.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so of course that's why your one can strike
up a conversation with strangers. I can do it if
I need to. I've had to learn how to be sociable,
you know what I mean. But like you've always been
see people. I see you as a friend. So for me,
it's so hard to see you not striking up. I
feel like you do. Like even today when you picked
up stuff, you're like, Hi, okay, she's on it. I'm
(07:01):
just being polite. Like I don't ask them about their life.
You will ask people at about your life, though, And
you're very sociable, Like even when you were in school,
you were like she was she talked about I'm very
much an interviet I'm like, who are you? I don't
need to know you, Like, give me my space. That's
what I'm saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. So
is it my turn? Okay? Sorry, I'm losing track. Are
(07:21):
we doing all of these? I don't know. Okay, you
can just girl who is gullible? I think the fact
that you you that will be you. It's true. And
y'all you and my sister actually like to make fun
of me actually because you know how gullible I am,
and then they talked him against me.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
This thing is you're also quite confident with it, like
you're like, did you guys hear this song with this
that was out a year ago or something?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
You're like, oh, I just heard it. It's like where
have you been? And the funny thing.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is you love being like pop culture, and so when
you find something that you don't know I really just
know cute about it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And it's like, how does she like? Where did this?
And I'm val word about a lot of things like
it really just like misses me completely, so.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
But it makes you you. Okay, another pair. Okay, I
don't know how much time someone timing us, because it
could be here forever. Who's most likely to take off
their earrings and grab their vesseline?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Is that even a question. Guys, take a guess that
would not be me, though, it would not be me.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, okay, I can't see I'm just saying that. But
having said that, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Think if someone pushed you, I would, but I'm not violent.
Oh yeah, I'm not violent. Yeah, but you you I
use my word, Yeah, you'd use the words. I think
you'd use your words before me. Yeah, I'll just be like,
I don't think that's nice, but I reckon both of
that's a huge tolerance.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, before like, if you see me going there then
and you and for me, I really don't like to
be angry.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So when you see me angry, it means like you've here.
Yeah yeah, yeah you yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah. That's the people pleaser, and that's probably that's true.
Some therapy is needed.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Why do we always go back to therapy? I feel
like every podcast episode goes back to we should get
a therapy. Have we talked about that? This is our therapy, guys, Yeah,
this is therapy. Thanks for being here in the session
with us. Okay, all right, So now we're going to
get into some other questions getting to know us. Still
some fun, some a little more serious. So I'll start
with a fun one. Okay, let's go. If I randomly
(09:27):
showed up at your house at one am without telling you, why,
what would you immediately assume is going on without telling
me why? Assuming we live together? Yeah, this is like
it's long.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, I would think something happened with you and Tom.
Oh it has to be that, Yeah, because I think
Tom would never let you leave the house at one am.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I'll come with you. That's so she wrapped up alone. Yeah,
that actually got.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I would think what's happened or what happened to Tom. It's
either what's happened between you or what's happened to Tom.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, I think so. I think it's actually not a
fun question now, but who put that under? Fine? I'm like, oh,
that's actually deep with you. I think for you to
be like we're going out, yea, let's go, let's go,
baby said I locked in, Let's go, turn up, turn up. Yeah,
(10:20):
I think that would be you.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I just think you would like overthink it. You'd be like,
one am rocking up?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Why am I doing that? Yeah? And also trouble would
also be like where are you going? I'll definitely overthinking.
I'm like I don't want to wake people up, it's
too much, you know type of thing that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
What's one story about us that you're definitely gonna tell
your kids?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Oh, how we thought we were sugar in high school?
And then like I wrote a song and recorded it, like,
let's cooreograph. We're gonna be in the interact variety show
and show them how it's done. And we didn't show
them how jealousy jealousy people blocked us. They really shut
it down, shut it down. But I think that's so cute,
(11:00):
Like what happened to that song? Needs to release? This?
My sister had the CD somewhere and every time I
listened back to like, cringe, cringe, cring, Why because you
did record it in the studio? And yeah, I did
it all that I think, But to be fair, like, oh,
actually my son writing schools are not bad, like for
like a fifteen year old's fifteen sixteen. Yeah, maybe one day,
(11:23):
maybe maybe I re record. You know how these artists
when they don't have rights to their masters and then
they do already record. How that would be? I think
such a full circle moment song. Yea, sony, you heard that?
Please find it? Thank you? Okay, this is supposed to
be a deeper question. What would most people be surprised
to learn about you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Maybe that I'm very sensitive, Yeah, very very hyper sensitive.
Yeah more than I like let it go on. I
just keep it insides and I'm like a duck on water.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But then under there them legs be kicking, like I'll
you know what you say about and I like replay
conversations in my head.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Should I say that? Should have? I remember in high
school because for some reason, everyone felt they should emotionally
dump on you, Like everyone used to go to a
man and be like I'm going through this or whatever.
And I remember you saying to me, what about me?
And I think that's so true to what you're saying,
because you do seem like the strong friend, you know
when they say check on your strong friends. A man
(12:28):
that definitely gives that energy. But she's also like a
soft spirit inside. So that's an element that people. Yeah,
what about you? Surprise that I'm an introvert? No, we
all know the chain and shift don't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Actually Yeah, people who don't know you, Yes, they don't
know because they're singing and the ad libbing.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, I'm very much an intervert. I love my I
can be alone all the time. I'm like, why do
I have to go outside? Like why do I? I
don't like people? I think I've already said twice, but like, yeah,
but most people are like there's no way, and I'm like,
I learned to be a functioning member of society and
have social skills, but they've always been for me.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's always been no way with you. I've never seen
you as I could think what's the middle one and
be ambivit.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, I think that's what you are. Yeah, because yeah,
you I don't know. Maybe I haven't whopped, No, I
get it, but I think I can understand why what
is an intro? Like people throw that word around? For me,
I define it as I get charged up by being
alone and people. Being around people takes energy out of
me and a thousand percent does. That's why I'm like,
(13:39):
how was I a teacher for so long? Because that's
like the complete like energy drain. So yeah, definitely, all right,
now you have to answer this question about me. Yeah,
what is something I can't live without? Ooh? Music? Like
do I think that far? Actually that was a bit fast,
(14:01):
Like sorry, this is obviously objects Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
it will be music and for you something you can't
live without. I would also say music because I think
we really thrive on that wavelength.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
In another life, I am a singer, and the life
our child like people I don't know, like Brandy, I
don't know, sound like such a millennial. My reference points are.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Sel you need to be saying a little uzy, what
was what these baby little baby Beyonce?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
But like, yeah, you know, like I think, like when
I see like, yeah, Beyonce is movie, what if I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Like, man, that would have been me? It would have
been me on that stage. It's true, It's true. It's
my voice. Didn't you have a voice. We're in quiet
together for the longest, so yeah, but not yeah, but
who's on Beyonce? So true?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, if you turned on the TV and saw me
on a reality show, would show to be and what
will I be doing on it?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I think you'd be next in fashion? Claim it? Claim
it because you like fashion, like think of that one. Wow,
it just came to me because I was going to
say The Real Housewives because I know you like it,
but for you actually to be active on a show,
I think you would be next in fashion. And I
think you would be a stylist or a judge on there.
(15:24):
I don't know if you're really a like designer designer
in terms of the suwing, but I think you'd have
a lot of opinion about like how people put things
together or helping people put things together, so like Next
and Fashion or Project Runway, like Fashion Police. Yes, I
can see you on Fashion Police. That's going to be
my answer for you.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
People think like I think it's like a pop culture
critic for sure. I don't know if there is one.
Is there one? BuzzFeed is what buzz pop?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
E pop?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
It used to be on E some pop something see
you know them already, So that's what I would picture.
I cannot see on a reality show.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, I don't have time for that. Yeah, people dealing
with my My little note about reality shows is that
like life has enough drummer, I don't need to be creating,
like manufacturing for TV like relax. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know, Like I just can't see you arguing
and going into all the like reality show is good,
but people are arguing because that's why we don't watch
it for happy days.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
We watched before you.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Know, the drumming, no drums yeah, they'll drain your energy
for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'll just be like, actually I don't need this and leave.
And I don't think that next to the TV. I'm
just saying, the producer will be like, Okay, that's not
what we started up for. Okay, get in mode. All right.
My next question for you is if you had never
met me before, what would your first impression of me
be after spending thirty minutes together.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
It would be totally wrong, but my first impression to
be like, she's loud.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think, oh my gosh, it's loud.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
She's super like you are super confident, but you know
that's super confident.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Where it's like she's yeah, like you know, run the
room like yeah. I would be like, it's a lie.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So that's why I think people will be like what, yes, true,
because I think your first impression is the utter opposite
of what you.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Really self as. Yeah. I think maybe it's also a
bit of projection or self preservation. You're kind of like,
I put this mask on so people don't try to
get so you go there first before they yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's why I think you would strike up
a conversation with a stranger.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Sorry, I'm not letting that one clearly. I'm like, but
you are more into it, like you be like feeling
someone just like so where are you from? Like when
on holiday? Like, oh yeah, so are you traveling? I think,
you know what, I actually think that's such an Australian thing.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Okay, maybe because Aussies love a good like yah or
chat like more so than like even just joking around
and like greet each other, even people walking past in
the street like morning, I'm like, oh yeah, morning. You know,
when you go to London and New York, people will
be like, why are you talking to me?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
To me? Leave me alone? Somethink that's like an auto
culture thing. Well that's true. I would definitely think you're
like social butterfly, like friends with everyone, but you kind
of are like you're friendly with it Amanda. For those
who don't know, Amanda is like liked by many and
all like you just have, but known by few. Could
(18:32):
be true, but like I think, yeah, whereas for me,
I'm just like I don't have to now it sounds
like a mean person. I'm not meaning, but like, just yeah,
you you you give room and space for people in
a very like open way, like you're not afraid to
talk to people, like you give people second chances.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I'm very yeah, we work on the second chances thing, yeah,
very much. You know you make mistakes, but I havn't
said that. I also would let me it is the
librand me, you're walking over be like, I can't be.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Then I can be forgiving, but then I once I
cut off, just like anybody at time for this. So yeah,
that's true. What's your pet peeve? Then, when it comes
to people who my pet peeve is people who think
they're better than others, just like moving with that energy.
I really dislike that because I'm like, you don't know
someone's story. A lot of where we are in life
(19:26):
is also like lack of the draw sometimes, like you
don't choose where you're born, you don't choose how you look,
you don't choose, and of course we learn and develop
over time, but like, I don't think you're better than
someone just because I don't know superficial things. It really
frustrates me, Like it irks me, grinds my titties. I
always say, really hate it, But yeah, what about you,
(19:47):
what's a I think it's.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
The same, but more like maybe the obnoxious version. Well,
people were poor listeners. Oh yeah, Like you're talking to
someone and they're like oh yeah, then then I'm like okay,
I yes, I don't get a chance to say anything.
And there's a difference between someone who's loud and vivacious
but the convo is like blowing, whereas someone who's just
(20:10):
like blatantly not even listening to you, and like then
I'm just like why why.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Why are you even trying?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah, and then they don't realize it as well. Self
awareness is a thing. It's crucial, Like I think we
all have our flaws, but please can we know about them?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And some eq yeah, gets some emotional intelligence, go buy
it somewhere rented. I don't know, try try.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
There's nothing worse than telling someone something that's so them
and they have no idea and then they look at
you like no, I'm not like that eye the room
is like oh yes you are, yes, you know, like
at least no, okay, I can be like this.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't. I don't intend. But don't you think it's
because it's hard for us to accept the not so
great sides of us, So then we just cellino and
I think only in adulthood. In the last few years,
have I really come to be like, it's okay to
you have the ugly side of you and embrace that.
I really struggle perfectionists. We've was like a million times. So, yeah,
(21:08):
what's something we've gone through together that's hilarious now even
though it was not funny when it happened. Oh, there's
so much So what relationship relationships? Lord, jeezuz so much
A long way. Yeah, we've come a lot of it hilarious.
Oh my gosh, I have a story. Yes, when it
(21:30):
was our leavers dance and then you have gone away,
Thank my girl. I can't help it.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's the first tie that like just wand my livers.
It's so so kind two thousand and two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Six.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Wow, I don't think people listening to this podcast aren't
even born room.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Don't say that, Okay, don't say that. But I remember,
so my date flaked on me. I had a date setup,
I was like happy with my date, and then my
date flaked on me. And then last minute replacement replacement
through someone and we were in class with and so
this person ended up being super clean and just annoying.
(22:11):
And it takes a lot to annoy me, does it?
But like I found that time, I took a lot
to annoy me, and he was super cleaning and was
so frustrating, and I started running away this guy the
whole night. And then I like go to a man
and I'm like, oh gosh, I remember we took photos
and he wanted to be in the photo. And I've
(22:33):
never been so rude. Yeah, like shut him down, like
and running. I ran away the whole night. Then I
think something happened with this brother having to go to hospital.
He's like, no, I'll stay here with you, and I
was like, don't go to go he needs please go, please,
please don't stay. So that's a funny story, Like, but
then I was so annoyed, Like it was just annoying. Yeah,
(22:55):
being set up.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
By people before the age of the internet was not
good because you're like, kin't even say, can you show
me its profile?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah? Yeah, hello, you have to trust and quote unquote
someone's reference terrible.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, if someone told you had gone viral on TikTok overnight,
what would you assume I was doing in the video.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know why I'm laughing. It's going back to
the vaseline one. Oh my gosh, you're not going to
be the people. But like I think we have a
story where we were on holiday and we were traveling
with some person and then they were causing drama and
Amanda had had it like.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
She was here and she was like stop doing that,
like and they cried, You're.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Not gonna be and then she was like hold your friend,
your sister whatever. Like it was so like I'll live
forget her being so mad, and I was just like,
oh my gosh. So like it's it's a viral moment.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I think for you to be singing, I don't know
why you're not singing room being Maybe I'm always sending
you like I'm that friend someone's saying doing a TikTok challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I'm likebbe yeah, she send it to me, And I
was like, waiting for your viral moment.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And I'll just be the friend from the world and
I'll be differendrom.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Remember it's supposed to be my stylist. Yes, okay, I
want to be differend. I want to be the what's
her name, Melissa is it? Oh? Yeah, Rianna. I'll be
a photographer something that I don't know that you can
be a stylist. Okay, let's work. Okay, fine, you just
come along for the ride exactly. Okay. The next one
(24:34):
for you is what are my biggest green flags?
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Oh? How generous you are with your time, with your energy,
which is so funny because that's maybe that's what's training.
You're giving too much in the way, I think, so yeah,
maybe keep something.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's why I keep the group small, like the friends,
because I feel like I want to be committed, like
one hundred percent, and and then if they're too many people,
it's hard for me to be like, no, you only
get ten percent.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And you've always been able to see things from different angles,
which I think when you that's why we're saying they're
rolling vessel. And I'm like, okay, if I'm gonna be
that friend, then I can't have I need you.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Because then you're gonna be like girl, are you sure? Yeah?
Right there. Some friends were just like Okay, it was hot,
we'll be hot.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
There's some friends it's cold, now, will be cold, you know,
whereas I think you'd be like, okay, but did you
look at it from the different which can be very confronting. Yeah,
because obviously if you're sensitive about something someone says, have
you thought You're like, no, just look at it from
my ankle player, you know, but you're like.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
No, did you consider this? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:39):
And I think that's a valuable thing for people to
have in a social circle.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Thank you. I'll take that shill for me. You're green flags.
I think you're just like consistently there, like I don't
know how to explain it, and non judgmental. I think
I judge myself first, and then I'll tell Amanda something
and think she's gonna judge me. She's like why the hell,
(26:04):
Like no, there's no way I'll do. You're very supportive
in that, and you care about the person's well being.
So it's like I'm here for you as long as
you can get because someone may be like, yes, you
must get your ish together. I don't care, but like
you're patient in that way. I love that about you,
and I love that. I guess the whole premise of
(26:26):
this podcast, right is like you can we can delve
together and be like what about this? And it's like, oh,
what about this? And it's okay to have differing perspectives
on things. Yes, you know, even if you're good friends.
And I think That's very important because you can't be,
as we say, an echo chamber all the time. Yeah,
and you're just loving and kind and just you really thoughtful,
very thoughtful about others, thoughtful about whether it's gifts, but
(26:51):
you really think about a person first and try to
be there for them and make them happy in the
way that they can receive, which is because sometimes you do.
Sometimes you give what you would like to get, like
I had, I was taking it. I'll give you this handback, girl.
I was taking a course and this class meet was like, oh,
his friend gifted him a Star Wars tea shirt and
(27:12):
people are like, oh, do you like Star It's like, no,
my friend and my friend is someone who loves Star,
wasn't He was like, here's a T shirt? You know,
so people could do that, But you're very considerate of War.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I think there's libra energy. Do you have spend time
as of libras? We're very like balanced really and I
even think, Okay, the most famous one I can think
of is Kim k Please. I don't know why I'm
using as a reference point, but I am. But like, yeah,
I think she also has within the family strong stoic
when she's actually quite sensitive. Yes, that's you know, the
one who's thoughtful, the one.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Libra. Sorry, I don't know much about time.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You're Leo, which is why I don't know why you
think you're an interit as a Leo.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Do you know? I get you. I've been called the
leo because we don't have a great rip. You're not
a leo my mind. Your energy is not like but
people tell me like, yeah, but you like attention and
all that. So that's why I think the first impression question. Yeah, yeah,
that's I need to learn. Because there's the there's this,
then there's the moon sight, what's the earth? Oh yeah,
(28:12):
the time? So you have different yeah yeah, you have
different elements, so I need to find out what the
other thing is.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Maybe that's what balance. Yeah yeah, yeah, balance is me.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
If someone told you I was arrested, please do not
bring up the sale without giving any additional explanation.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What's the first assumption you'd make about it and why
they got the wrong person? Oh girl, thank you, you're
a true friend. Because I was like, I was going
to say then I'm like, actually, I'll be like, no,
it's not that deep. Yeah, we're arrested girl. I'm too
cute from she said, I'd be like and also a
man is very like logical. She's like, I got a kid,
(28:48):
I need to like, I support family. I had like,
there's no time to be missed on that. It's not
that deep.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Unless it's false accusations. Yeah, but then funny thing is
also being Zimbabwean.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Can you imagine nothing?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
I mean yeah, people like, what were you doing? I
think for you it would be again case of mistaken
I cannot see it be.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Really like, yeah, I think a suppose we overthink everything.
So we're like trying to make sure you get all
the road Definitely, I think so. And for you, we're
on a road trip and you hand me the ors cable,
what song of artists do I put on? First? Beyonce?
Anything Beyonce first? You guys on my Spotify wrap, I
(29:31):
was told that I'm with the one percent of Beyonce,
and I'm like house sway, okay. I like Bey but
not like you clearly do. I'm not like that. I'm
not a b I really say I'm not a Bee Hyper.
I don't think I think I'm a secret bee Hyper.
I think so, But I definitely a hyper, I'm not certified.
In my head, I'm like, I'm more of a Solange
(29:52):
girl as much as she's not in your face like that.
Do you think you like solangees vibe? Yeah, vibe or
maybe Beyonce is more accessible I feel so, yeah, but
so she's there. I like Solange songwriting. I like how
she layers, you know, in her music so much because
Brandy is one of my favorite artists. But when she
does her harmonies, like she really and it's not so
(30:15):
much about the power, it's about the intricacies. But on
a day to day you know, I'll play Beyonce to
be fair.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, so I think Beyonce people gets people HiPE each
other way.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So like renaissance at the moment is just like if
that's the moment, the restaurant is always a constant, but
maybe more in the background. Yeah, like I'm cleaning, I'll
put the Solange, but I'm going out beyond for sure
for sure. But also don't like putting them against other
That's what the.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Completely different leagues of like totally.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And also I think Beyonce we grew up with her, like, yeah,
you know this since child we were growing up, she
was that girl, she's like a big cis energy.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Definitely, I think you If it's not Beyonce, I think
you do like a burner. Some afro has been my
top artist and four Yeah that's I love his raps.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Just be giving me props for that. Berner, Yeah, definitely,
I love his b D.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Like he just gives you like that, come correct, correct
otherwise I will miss up. He will tell you now.
He's the one to face like what are you saying? Yeah,
for sure. I watched this, like you know, these magazines
have these YouTube interviews and he had to try different
food or whatever. Literally was just like I'm not trying that,
Like like he gives that and he's like, Nope, not
(31:35):
doing that. He's sure of himself. Definitely, very sure. So
I asked you about getting arrested. Are we doing? Where
are we? Girl? We're finished. That's the end of it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I need to do run on ice breakst Sorry. I'm
hoping for one certain one clearly, So why don't you
just as he is most likely to write a book
that the one I wanted, So I must answer.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I think I would. I don't know. Do you think
that's correct? Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Generally, and you should. I had this pipe dream of
doing it while I was a maternity leader. Okay, any
mother out there must be laughing at that now, because
you're smung some When was I going to be in
the middle of pumping and breastfeeding and doing all of
that writing a book.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But I have that on my heart as all that
I want to What would you write about? Do you know?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think it'll be set as an autobiography, but it's
not to be a story, but very heavily inspired by
my life. Okay, you know, I think having like my mom,
you know, terminally ill at a young age, it just
gives you that life.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Can I just say, that's a wild thing. Like when
I think about it, I'm just like girls.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, I think creating itself is its own big So
I think I want a story in and around that.
And also the craziness of Zimbabwe, Like literally, if you
think about the things that we face, like people talk
about COVID, like, oh my god, you know, so much
happened in two three years, and I'm like check. Coming
from Zimbabla, we grew up thinking.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Our country was mine, traumatized.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Then all of a sudden we're like, yeah, you know,
now we have to leave too.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Now like family dynamics are all warped because we live
away from family. Like even Christmas, you coming over such
a huge thing. Otherwise it's just going to be matile
German and I having our food and calling it a day,
like it's not a big thing. And I think people
assume these things like you're close to family, But Zimbabwe
is just like shattered that whole idea.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And I think we grew up first because of the
way I don't know, like pretty much.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I mean knowing about economy and stuff like at a
young age or not being able to afford Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I always laugh. Remember when in history we learned about
you know, the Second World War and also Germany hyperinflation
and how they use wheelbarrows to go vibrand and we're like,
oh ho, meanwhile, meanwhile, that was reaching around the corner
for us.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And I also find it quite sad that every term,
remember school would give us a letter yes, and we
obviously opened it sorry parents, and it would like have
our fees for the next and then it won't be like.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Say bye, maybe it won't be here next year. You
don't know if your parents parents.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It was very real, all right, yeah, it's true and
the next time we'll be there.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Thank you, parents, thank you, thank you for sure. Well.
I enjoyed this episode. Was a nice like warm up.
It's so surreal, so beautiful having you here. I'm pinching
myself all the time. It hasn't registered for me, to
be honest, like, I'm still like what, but so grateful
to be here. Thank you. Amanda's welcomed this with such
(34:41):
warm open arms and just grateful that we can do this,
you know, the studio like definitely a moment we'll share
with our kids. Bringing back here question definitely anyway, So
thanks for listening and we look forward to catching on
our next episode. Bye, guy Zitos.
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