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September 18, 2025 • 5 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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the cutting room floor today.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, Brendan, first it was Haul and Oates, Now it's
Ben and Jerry's Splitsville.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh, what's happened?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Did the huge talent of hall outweighing oats affect Ben
and Jerry?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Before we go on to Ben and Jerry, Let's get
this clear. I'm all yours. You're the small, wiry, hairy one.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
The people won't.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You're the one that the brains of the operation a me. Anyway,
we've spoken about this at length.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
All right, Well, let's move on to Ben and Jerry's.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
So Ben and Jerry's ice Cream. One of the co founders, Jerry,
the Jerry of Ben and Jerry's, has quit the band.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
He's resigned.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
What's happened Well, the parent company, Unilever, he says, has
silenced their core mission of liberal activism. Let's listen to
something that they posted on TikTok not so long ago.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Six ice cream Not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
We get this on a lot. Yeah, we're in the
ice cream business, but we've always been about much more
than just ice cream. We use our power, our privilege,
our platform, and our relationship with our fans to advocate
for progressive social change. So now we're not just going
to stick to ice cream.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, well I think the owners now Unilever, have said,
how about you just stick to ice cream because the
very vocal owners of this ice cream company and most
people who buy the ice cream wouldn't need to know
or care. Maybe you do care what the owners think.
You just know them as ice cream makers. But they
apparently have been involved in many issues climate change, racism,

(01:54):
They have built a reputation for social activism, and they've
been arrested at various protests, and I think some of
their pro Palestinian support has upset Unilever, who stop Stop Stop.
So Jerry has stepped down because he feels they've been
silenced from their core ethos that they've been doing since
the organization began, which was in nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, and that was way before social media. What's happened
now on this is I've had this epiphany recently. There
is so much opinion on social media. Now everyone has
an opinion. So really, people like Ben and Jerry's in
the old days used to do the right thing. There's
enough opinions out there, whether it be left or right
or centrist, it doesn't matter. But ice cream manufacturers, even

(02:38):
bans these days, they don't need to use their platform
to talk about these things because people everyday, people are
now aware of what's happening socially.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I wonder if it's the difference is.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
And now it just sounds like a lecture.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, But in the old days, in the old days,
you used to be able to say I'm opposed to this.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
You go fair enough. Now you're opposed to this. Sorry,
that means you know it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
We're so divided, and that's what we can no longer
tolerate an opinion. So Unilever have said we don't like
your pro Palestinian thoughts.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
You've upset Israeli followers. Therefore, exactly there you go. So
there's no longer here's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It is my opinion now is upsetting somebody, and you
cannot have your.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
The very numb of it is Ben and Jerry's make
ice cream. When they were in an opinion company making
ice cream, It's like you too, you too.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Have ice creams terrible.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
They'd have a nice Roman reason. But what I'm saying
is even you too in itself. Now everyone's tired of
hearing other people's opinions because we are awash with opinions.
You look at social media. You don't have to go
anywhere to hear an opinion. Remember the old days, and
we're so.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Immersedose you go there and Maddie and you.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Could see a Maddie standing in the town square yelling
out all of them, but you can walk off. But now,
thanks to the algorithm, and thanks to Elon must taking
away censorship on x, you get any amount of sewer
coming out of that post.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Which is what is because they make more money when
we lean into fearful opinions. So what you say is right,
But I think what I say is right as well.
Of course I'm going to say that it is. Yes,
we've got too much opinion, but also that opinion somehow
it's like stroking a cap backwards. Your opinion is hateful
to me, and therefore we are at odds. It didn't

(04:22):
just used to be okay, he's got that opinion.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Now we're at odds.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's true, and maybe we'll go back to the twenties
where everyone has kept their pie hole shut, so people
talk on into that. Now, I've noticed when you go
to barbecues and stuff, people are less inclined to talk politically.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Have you noticed that because we know how to visit
it because so.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
You don't mention it. So in humankind, when we're face
to face with each other, we're not talking about our opinions.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Have you seen this thing? This there's two dogs and
they said, this is what twitter or x is. Two dogs.
There's a fence. Yep, these Alsatians are barking, bearing their teeth.
The fence pulls back.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
The two dogs just look at each other, No problem,
fence closes again.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
And that's exactly what it is. That's a metaph for
what's happening now. So I think about that when you're scrolling.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And also think about that when you're buying ice cream,
because jenn and berries, jen and berries, that's what they
show a new flavor, jenen berries. Because they're now putting
out the banana split.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Okay, kids, step it for today, come back tomorrow for more.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Jonesy and the man is gutting room for it
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