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Speaker 1 (00:06):
On the cutting room floor today.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Now this probably is rage bait, but I'm going to
read it out anyway. On Tescos, which is a UK supermarket,
has renamed its Christmas trees evergreen trees, and they're calling
Christmas cake fruitcake, and people are saying, why are you
stripping us of our traditions discuss Furious customers have branded
(00:29):
the store hypocritical, suggesting it's rebranding Christmas. But someone has said, hey, Testos,
you don't want to have Christmas anymore, but you'll still
take our money, you know all that.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, I was in at my local km art store
and they had festive tree instead of Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What percentage of our population? I know we're multicultural and
different religions, etc. And people who don't have religious affiliations.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But I think they don't celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But people would still accept the nature of a Christmas tree.
A Christmas you either have one or you don't. No
one's you don't need to rename them.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, And you're right about the rage bait.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't know if then this is where it comes
down to virtual virtue signaling. When big corporation does that mean, well,
it means that hang on, I'm going to before there's
any offense taken right or caused, I'm going to nip
it in the butt and that happens all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I saw a story this week and I'm glad we
didn't do it on our show. Some other radio stations did.
Now we're being asked to ask our baby's permission before
you change a nappy.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's just rage bait.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The papers lean into this too. There'd be one person
who wants to stop kids singing Christmas carols and that'll
be the headline.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, there was one time, keep it all in perspective
on the talk back radio stations. I had a thing
about how they were going to cancel Easter. East was
gone suggesting that and that was the thing. And then
when you got to the number of it, no one
had suggested it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But what it does is people buy into it. They
ring up the radio station, they're outraged. I can't believe this.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know, the media outlets, like we feel three hours
a day, metia outlets and content creators are looking for
stuff to talk about constantly, so they lean into this
stuff because it fills the space.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, we could make up all sorts of stuff, and
this is what Joe Rogan does.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Joe Rogan is very good as a podcaster.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
What he does is he asks people's questions about anything
from vaccine efficacy to Donald Trump's election campaign chance, and
what he does he tells people what they want to hear.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So in a way, we could quite easily be like that.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
We could say, oh, you know, the vaccines that they
do cause autism or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We could say any of those things. But I don't know.
I'm not a scientist. I'm just a radio DJ, but
I do.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I do appreciate the science.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Of course, you understand. But I take this.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Job as a broadcaster. I think it's a privilege and
I take it with the responsibility. I know, we like
our poo and our wee jokes and all that kind
of stuff, but the information matters to me. Yeah, and
I do not want to disseminate misinformation.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But I've noticed there's a lot of rage bait in
the mode cycling world, particularly from various social media posts.
They'll have a car cut me off, you know, because
everyone's got a helmet cam now and you can see
the car coming from miles away, and the ride is
blowing up the likes and you think, is he doing
that just to get rage bait because people go, oh,
that's outrageous that this car has cut this motorcycle earth off,
(03:20):
when in actual fact, the motorcycle has no doubt seeing
the car. The car certainly hasn't seen him, because that's
just what happens when you're on a motorcycle. But there's
this victim mentality which gets put out and becomes rage bait.
So therefore you get more clicks, more likes, more followers.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And not just that, the tech companies themselves know that
people lean in to conflict and anxiety exactly, you stay
online longer and they make more money that way. And
so even simple things like a woman I saw the
other day who was making a Tira massou in.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Her vegetable crisp.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, and she said, look how effective this is, and
you know, just to inflames.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's just rage bait.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And now remember the old days when you had you
just followed what you followed, that would all pop up
in your feed. Now the algorithm just gives you whatever
that you click on, good, bad or ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
If you click on it, that picks up your what
you're into.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And you know what, apparently your screen. It follows your
finger scrolling, so even if you're clicking on something just
out of curiosity, it will register that, which is why
you get flooded with more and more of it. So
I try not to lean into my lower self by
clicking on clickbait yep, because that just feeds on it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But also on that on have you seen those all
those phone bots? So you've got places like China where
they've got just banks and banks of phones Android phones
and there I've got fake Instagram accounts and their AI
is making them comment, so they're fighting with each other,
but they're fighting with humans.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So if it's not for political gain or what's its
is it just to keep people online? Longo.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yes, And it's all about advertising as sure as we do.
And we're probably a bit more thick skinned about it
because we've been in this business for a long time.
And when I first started, they used to say sell
the sizzle, not the steak. So the thing was about
what the smell of the steak is. It's not about
the actual the actual steak. That's not what you're selling.
You want people to go five minutes more so someone
(05:25):
will listen to this, and you want them to stick around,
so they have to listen to five minutes of ads
and then they'll come back. You have to be that
compelling that people will come through what's happened in time.
Now you've got pop ups to come up on your screen.
There's all sorts of different advertising that pops up, but
it's all part of the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I stopped listening when you said steak because I'm a
little bit hungry. So who's selling that steak? Then Bloon Star,
Steakhouse and saloon that I waited for that.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, kids, stop it for today, come back tomorrow for more.
Josey and the Man is going room for
On the cutting room floor today.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Now this probably is rage bait, but I'm going to
read it out anyway. On Tescos, which is a UK supermarket,
has renamed its Christmas trees evergreen trees, and they're calling
Christmas cake fruitcake, and people are saying, why are you
stripping us of our traditions discuss Furious customers have branded
(00:29):
the store hypocritical, suggesting it's rebranding Christmas. But someone has said, hey, Testos,
you don't want to have Christmas anymore, but you'll still
take our money, you know all that.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, I was in at my local km art store
and they had festive tree instead of Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What percentage of our population? I know we're multicultural and
different religions, etc. And people who don't have religious affiliations.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
But I think they don't celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But people would still accept the nature of a Christmas tree.
A Christmas you either have one or you don't. No
one's you don't need to rename them.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, And you're right about the rage bait.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I don't know if then this is where it comes
down to virtual virtue signaling. When big corporation does that mean, well,
it means that hang on, I'm going to before there's
any offense taken right or caused, I'm going to nip
it in the butt and that happens all.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I saw a story this week and I'm glad we
didn't do it on our show. Some other radio stations did.
Now we're being asked to ask our baby's permission before
you change a nappy.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
It's just rage bait.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The papers lean into this too. There'd be one person
who wants to stop kids singing Christmas carols and that'll
be the headline.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well, there was one time, keep it all in perspective
on the talk back radio stations. I had a thing
about how they were going to cancel Easter. East was
gone suggesting that and that was the thing. And then
when you got to the number of it, no one
had suggested it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But what it does is people buy into it. They
ring up the radio station, they're outraged. I can't believe this.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You know, the media outlets, like we feel three hours
a day, metia outlets and content creators are looking for
stuff to talk about constantly, so they lean into this
stuff because it fills the space.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, we could make up all sorts of stuff, and
this is what Joe Rogan does.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Joe Rogan is very good as a podcaster.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
What he does is he asks people's questions about anything
from vaccine efficacy to Donald Trump's election campaign chance, and
what he does he tells people what they want to hear.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
So in a way, we could quite easily be like that.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
We could say, oh, you know, the vaccines that they
do cause autism or whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We could say any of those things. But I don't know.
I'm not a scientist. I'm just a radio DJ, but
I do.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I do appreciate the science.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Of course, you understand. But I take this.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Job as a broadcaster. I think it's a privilege and
I take it with the responsibility. I know, we like
our poo and our wee jokes and all that kind
of stuff, but the information matters to me. Yeah, and
I do not want to disseminate misinformation.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But I've noticed there's a lot of rage bait in
the mode cycling world, particularly from various social media posts.
They'll have a car cut me off, you know, because
everyone's got a helmet cam now and you can see
the car coming from miles away, and the ride is
blowing up the likes and you think, is he doing
that just to get rage bait because people go, oh,
that's outrageous that this car has cut this motorcycle earth off,
(03:20):
when in actual fact, the motorcycle has no doubt seeing
the car. The car certainly hasn't seen him, because that's
just what happens when you're on a motorcycle. But there's
this victim mentality which gets put out and becomes rage bait.
So therefore you get more clicks, more likes, more followers.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
And not just that, the tech companies themselves know that
people lean in to conflict and anxiety exactly, you stay
online longer and they make more money that way. And
so even simple things like a woman I saw the
other day who was making a Tira massou in.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Her vegetable crisp.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, and she said, look how effective this is, and
you know, just to inflames.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's just rage bait.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And now remember the old days when you had you
just followed what you followed, that would all pop up
in your feed. Now the algorithm just gives you whatever
that you click on, good, bad or ugly.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
If you click on it, that picks up your what
you're into.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And you know what, apparently your screen. It follows your
finger scrolling, so even if you're clicking on something just
out of curiosity, it will register that, which is why
you get flooded with more and more of it. So
I try not to lean into my lower self by
clicking on clickbait yep, because that just feeds on it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
But also on that on have you seen those all
those phone bots? So you've got places like China where
they've got just banks and banks of phones Android phones
and there I've got fake Instagram accounts and their AI
is making them comment, so they're fighting with each other,
but they're fighting with humans.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So if it's not for political gain or what's its
is it just to keep people online? Longo.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yes, And it's all about advertising as sure as we do.
And we're probably a bit more thick skinned about it
because we've been in this business for a long time.
And when I first started, they used to say sell
the sizzle, not the steak. So the thing was about
what the smell of the steak is. It's not about
the actual the actual steak. That's not what you're selling.
You want people to go five minutes more so someone
(05:25):
will listen to this, and you want them to stick around,
so they have to listen to five minutes of ads
and then they'll come back. You have to be that
compelling that people will come through what's happened in time.
Now you've got pop ups to come up on your screen.
There's all sorts of different advertising that pops up, but
it's all part of the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I stopped listening when you said steak because I'm a
little bit hungry. So who's selling that steak? Then Bloon Star,
Steakhouse and saloon that I waited for that.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, kids, stop it for today, come back tomorrow for more.
Josey and the Man is going room for
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