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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point
seven podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. It's
Jon and a man's Gooden room floor. It's a man's
Gooden room floor on the cutting room floor. Today. What
have we got today?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
There's a grow you know, a growing Christianity amongst younger people,
which I think is very interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good. It's better than being little heathens.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Quite true, and well, I think heathens and heathenism is
okay as long as you are bide by it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I think it's hedonism. He is hedonism and heathens the same.
Isn't a heathen a non believer?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, but a heathen is someone who's headstrong and believes
in this power of themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I think they're hedonistic.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's right, a heathen and not be hedonistic always.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
When I think of the hedonistic lifestyle, I think of
Eyes Wide Shut, that movie with Tom and Nicole.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, well, let's look how well that went for them.
Let's look at the story of Caitlin kyt l i
n Caitlin and Drew. They are non denominational Christians. They're
in America, so they identify with Christianity, but not a
particular specific branch of it. When they started dating in
twenty twenty one, they decided they'd wait until marriage. And
(01:27):
that's fair enough. A lot of Christian couples do that
for the sex, but not just the sexual bit, for
kissing as well. This is where I think this is
an interesting story. They have said, for us personally, we
knew our top love language was physical touch. Well how
did they know that?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They said?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And in knowing that we wanted to be wise in
our approach to boundaries, they felt that quote, kissing could
be a gateway that leads to physical intimacy. Oh, so
they swore to never sneak a smooch before they walk
down the aisle. Let's discuss their whole story and then
we'll come back to how you feel about it. So
they went so far as to never being alone in
the house together so they were never tempted to jump
(02:06):
on each other's bones. Cait has been in an open
book on social media about the couple's traditional decision, saying
it came with online comments from people who said that
she must have had a lot of self control and
others saying kissing isn't the end of the world. Someone
else has said, bro fighting for whose life are n girl?
That's your friend of two years? Said someone interesting. Someone
(02:28):
else said, I don't understand how you can be in
a relationship without any romance. What makes your partner stand
out from your friends? It's interesting. What separates your romantic partner?
I guess just your feeling?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's the intimacy really.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So, when the Browns finally said their ideas and they
kissed at their wedding day, the crowd of family and
friends erupted in a loud cheer. Our wedding day was special,
they said, as they humped on the altar. They didn't
really do you take it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yes, right now.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I know a lot of couples make the decision not
to have full intimacy for the wedding, but not to kiss.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, I guess it's anthropological.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's that you fall in love with someone, the spark
is there, and then the kissing is that it's that
taste test if you will it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Does this person suit you?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Can you tell whether a person suits you from the kissing,
because there'd be others who'd say the kissing is one
thing you can't lift. You're up for a life of
sexual compatibility until you go the whole way. So is
just if you only kiss and don't do the rest
of it? Is that enough of a taste test?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's all all shades of the same journey.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, you're all on the same page.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I guess you know if you haven't tied them up
and had B an S. Is that what it is?
Bondage and no.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
B and D?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What's B an S?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Bachelor and spinster's or B and D?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Do you know enough? At which point? At which point
do you think you know enough?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't know. That is very very curious because on
one hand, I'm thinking, well, how do you you know?
It's like buying a car sight unseen and then getting
it and going, well, there's.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Still sight unseen sight scene and I'm married for a
site you can see each other.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, But if you get a car and you look
at it on the lot, you go past that car
every day?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, well jeez, I really want to drive that car and.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Is it any Well? I guess this is keeping this
analogy going. What separates that from other cars and the
lot is that you have feelings about that car, so
you look and that might be enough to tide you
over to you buy it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But you look at the Bachelor, watching the Golden Bachelor
at the moment, and he's kissing all those ladies, and
we accept that as part of a try before you
buy things.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well as most of us in our culture do. Most
of us don't marry the first person we've kissed. No, no,
And well, this is the choice they've made, that they've
chosen to be devoted to each other without testing the
physical stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I wonder how long ago did this happen?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They started dating in twenty twenty one and they've just married.
They've been partners engaged for two years.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
For two years.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
As someone said, here, bro that your friend without.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Any sex or intimacy, I can break that'll been married
for thirty Oh my, bea okay, kids, let's fit for today,
come back tomorrow for more jolgy in the man's cutting room,
the floor
My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point
seven podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. It's
Jon and a man's Gooden room floor. It's a man's
Gooden room floor on the cutting room floor. Today. What
have we got today?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
There's a grow you know, a growing Christianity amongst younger people,
which I think is very interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Good. It's better than being little heathens.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Quite true, and well, I think heathens and heathenism is
okay as long as you are bide by it.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I think it's hedonism. He is hedonism and heathens the same.
Isn't a heathen a non believer?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, but a heathen is someone who's headstrong and believes
in this power of themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I think they're hedonistic.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's right, a heathen and not be hedonistic always.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
When I think of the hedonistic lifestyle, I think of
Eyes Wide Shut, that movie with Tom and Nicole.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, well, let's look how well that went for them.
Let's look at the story of Caitlin kyt l i
n Caitlin and Drew. They are non denominational Christians. They're
in America, so they identify with Christianity, but not a
particular specific branch of it. When they started dating in
twenty twenty one, they decided they'd wait until marriage. And
(01:27):
that's fair enough. A lot of Christian couples do that
for the sex, but not just the sexual bit, for
kissing as well. This is where I think this is
an interesting story. They have said, for us personally, we
knew our top love language was physical touch. Well how
did they know that?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They said?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And in knowing that we wanted to be wise in
our approach to boundaries, they felt that quote, kissing could
be a gateway that leads to physical intimacy. Oh, so
they swore to never sneak a smooch before they walk
down the aisle. Let's discuss their whole story and then
we'll come back to how you feel about it. So
they went so far as to never being alone in
the house together so they were never tempted to jump
(02:06):
on each other's bones. Cait has been in an open
book on social media about the couple's traditional decision, saying
it came with online comments from people who said that
she must have had a lot of self control and
others saying kissing isn't the end of the world. Someone
else has said, bro fighting for whose life are n girl?
That's your friend of two years? Said someone interesting. Someone
(02:28):
else said, I don't understand how you can be in
a relationship without any romance. What makes your partner stand
out from your friends? It's interesting. What separates your romantic partner?
I guess just your feeling?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's the intimacy really.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So, when the Browns finally said their ideas and they
kissed at their wedding day, the crowd of family and
friends erupted in a loud cheer. Our wedding day was special,
they said, as they humped on the altar. They didn't
really do you take it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yes, right now.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I know a lot of couples make the decision not
to have full intimacy for the wedding, but not to kiss.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, I guess it's anthropological.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's that you fall in love with someone, the spark
is there, and then the kissing is that it's that
taste test if you will it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Does this person suit you?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Can you tell whether a person suits you from the kissing,
because there'd be others who'd say the kissing is one
thing you can't lift. You're up for a life of
sexual compatibility until you go the whole way. So is
just if you only kiss and don't do the rest
of it? Is that enough of a taste test?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You know?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It's all all shades of the same journey.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, you're all on the same page.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I guess you know if you haven't tied them up
and had B an S. Is that what it is?
Bondage and no.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
B and D?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What's B an S?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Bachelor and spinster's or B and D?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Do you know enough? At which point? At which point
do you think you know enough?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't know. That is very very curious because on
one hand, I'm thinking, well, how do you you know?
It's like buying a car sight unseen and then getting
it and going, well, there's.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Still sight unseen sight scene and I'm married for a
site you can see each other.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, But if you get a car and you look
at it on the lot, you go past that car
every day?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, well jeez, I really want to drive that car and.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Is it any Well? I guess this is keeping this
analogy going. What separates that from other cars and the
lot is that you have feelings about that car, so
you look and that might be enough to tide you
over to you buy it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But you look at the Bachelor, watching the Golden Bachelor
at the moment, and he's kissing all those ladies, and
we accept that as part of a try before you
buy things.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well as most of us in our culture do. Most
of us don't marry the first person we've kissed. No, no,
And well, this is the choice they've made, that they've
chosen to be devoted to each other without testing the
physical stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I wonder how long ago did this happen?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
They started dating in twenty twenty one and they've just married.
They've been partners engaged for two years.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
For two years.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
As someone said, here, bro that your friend without.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Any sex or intimacy, I can break that'll been married
for thirty Oh my, bea okay, kids, let's fit for today,
come back tomorrow for more jolgy in the man's cutting room,
the floor
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