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October 10, 2025 • 21 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. It's
choosy and unlan funny. It's cosy, cutting on the cutting

(00:49):
room floor today. What have we got?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We all know? The album cover for Nirvana's classic album
Nevermind Yep from Memory. What's on it?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
A little baby chasing the dollar in a swimming pool.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, that's right, little nudy baby, Little nudy baby. The
man who was that nudy baby his name is Spencer Eldon.
He was four months old at the time. He's swimming
naked underwater in nineteen ninety one. It's been a very famous,
as you say, album cover. He has sued the rock
band Now a couple of times and sued the photographer.
He has said, and this started in twenty twenty one

(01:22):
in a lawsuit that his identity and name were forever
tied to the commercial sexual exploitation that he experienced as
a minor, which has been distributed and sold worldwide. This
was dismissed in twenty twenty two because he had submitted
it after a ten year limit for filing a civil case,
but he has brought the case again, an appeals court

(01:45):
overturned that decision, allowing him to refile.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Didn't he have a reenactment of it?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
That wasn't there a reenactment?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Was twenty I remember seeing a picture of him sort
of paying homage to it and saying, this is me
kind of ariston.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I said that was the twentieth anniversary of it, and
his parents at the time. I don't think they paid
a lot of money, and I don't think there was
a residual thing that they got out of it.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
That was the deal that was done at the time.
He has once again brought this case forward, but the
judge has now said beyond the fact that he was naked,
nothing quote came close to bringing the image within the
ambit of the child pornography statute. He said the image
was akin to a family photo of a child bathing,

(02:27):
and it's plainly insufficient to support a finding of child pornography.
This is what the judge wrote. Nudity must be coupled
with other circumstances that make the vision depiction lissivius or
sexually provocative. The judge also cited factors including the presence
of mister Elden's parents at the photo shoot, the fact
that photographer was a friend, the fact that he had

(02:48):
previously embraced and financially benefited from being featured on the
album cover.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes, so he's just didn't for the dough.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
He's just bitter because he possibly feels that his image
is being used. But suck o, mate, No one's going
to recognize you as the baby.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Knows you're right. He just wants to get This is
a very famous album cover. Wasn't No one knew that
at the time. I'd like more recompense. That's not what
he's saying.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
If I was his mate, I would say, listen, you
had your time in the sun basking that and that's
what it is. Just because you get your picture immortalized
and it goes global, that's.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
All well and good.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
But you're not gonna unless your parents were savvy enough
to sign a great deal that got you in perpetuity.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
To make the money. But that's not going to happen.
You lost, mate, give it up.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Well. His legal team have told The Rolling Stone that
they respectfully disagree with this decision and they plan to
appeal again. This is a quote. As long as the
entertainment industry prioritizes profits over childhood, privacy, consent, and dignity.
We will continue up a suit for awareness and accountability.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
What is that struggle pot and cuddle Pie, the gumnut babies,
they are in the nude.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
They should be covered up. We should draw pants on them.
Well we're at it, let's put pants on the coat
of arms. You know that they've all got areas cover
them up.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
But it's like.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Mister Red, cover it up because Nirvana with when you
buy a never mind, now when you see it like
so on your streaming apps. It's got the cover, but
he's his penis has been photo shopped out, so he's penisless.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Maybe that's upsetting.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
They did the Crazy Frog, they took away it's penis.
Remember Crazy Frog?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
They took away it's a penis.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's it because hated No one wanted to see his
little diggy Daida.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
No more tadpoles for crazy Frog. That film clip was disturbing.
Ready everybody to some more Georgy Hanna. That is gotting ve.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Differ.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Ready, everybody to some more Georgy Hanna has gotten.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
On the cutting room floor today. I see you wearing
the science lab coat. That can mean only one thing.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
What's that it had done my washing?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's science time, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
When I chows, I felt that it was time to
leave beyond two thousand. When I had a day off
in Paris, I've been working on the show for about
six years, traveling a lot, and I looked across the
road and thought, oh, that looks like a day off.
But that looks like a nice dress shop. I'll go
in there. It was medical supplies. I was looking at
a lab coat. Maybe it's time for Middle East. I

(05:19):
can't recall you wearing a lab coat many times. Lab coats, hairnets,
cotton booties, you know, all that kind of stuff. It
looked like I was on the election campaign trail constantly,
your hard hats, welding all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You are welding hard hats, but you know.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
That sort of stuff that you see politicians do. I
didn't have to kiss many babies.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
And you predated high vis as well.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's right, there was no high vis. I was just
normal vis.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You were just visible.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
This is a science I but I think this story
will appeal to you, Brendan, and it is quite fascinating.
About three hundred and eighty million years ago, This is literally,
this isn't just my Beyond two thousand years, fish swimming
in the Devonian Seas carried a genetic program that would
later shape human hands.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
A new study published in Nature, so you know it's reputable. This,
this isn't some sort of crazy woo woo magazine. It
reveals that the DNA switches responsible for forming fingers and
toes did not evolve from fins. It would always thought
that fins evolved into fingers and toes, But in fact,
these switches and these DNA changes are you ready were

(06:26):
recycled from the kloaka the bum. Yeah, a fish bum,
the multi purpose, excreusory and reproductive opening still found in
many animals. Chickens have a cloaker. I think reptiles do
have a cloaker.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It all comes out of one hole.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Everything happens through one hole. So researchers from the University
of Geneva and other collaborators have traced the connection using
mice and zebra fish embryos. Both species share a certain gene,
the master architects of building bodies. In mice, these genes
light up in budding digits, guiding their growth into digits.

(07:05):
In zebra fish. The same genes illuminate the kloaka.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
When scientists then changed that DNA mouse digits failed to
form zebra fish, the cloaka collapsed. What the fins remained,
So they said, the fins and the fingers aren't related.
The cloaka and the fingers are related. Are you keeping up?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I am?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
This genetic recycling is known as evolutionary co option. It
shows that nature builds new structures not by inventing fresh systems,
but by retooling old ones, for example, the same way
that an old machine can be made from using other bits.
So the cloacal regulatory landscape was reassigned to sculpt digits

(07:51):
as fish ventured onto land. That's interesting. So it wasn't
the fins that became arms and fingers, it was your cloaka.
So the work reframes one of the great evolutionary transitions,
to move from fins to limbs. It wasn't a clean break,
it was a clever, rewhiney worrying of ancient instructions. So

(08:11):
every finger that we flex today, do this with your
handbread and flex your fingers. Every finger that we flex
carries the legacy of a cloacle blueprint.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
So you're saying that man and woman's hands came out
of a fish's bum.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yes, I'm glad you've paid attention and you've given us
that scientific summary.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I like it when you put on the lab coat.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Everybody hear.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
On the cutting room floor today. The honey Badger, You
remember that, Nick Cummins, Yes, so.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Let's just I haven't heard that name for a long time.
Ex rugby player, union player, bachelor and in the end,
first time ever he choose No, he choose no.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
One didn't. He chose none of the girls, and which.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Which in a way was fair enough and honest, but
it was made for a strange viewing. Yeah I did
broke two hearts.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, one of the girls do.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now she's she's one of the Australia's most famous podcasters.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
But her name escapes me.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Britney Hawking.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Ah, she works with us, she's in our network. Sorry, Britney.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I had a mind like everyone just blends into each other.
But Nick commens the reason he thought that's chose. He said,
I'm just going to go.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm just here for the.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Chocolate bath and the pashing off straight in see pashes.
Everyone chooses no one. But having said that, there were
other relationships where you pash everyone pick one, and two
months later that relationship's over. I just I think a
lot of them probably go through the motions for the TV.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Emotions, keep away from the chocolate bath the bachelor.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I find that is odd because you're kissing all these ladies,
so you might be put off by a bad kisser
and you might be wooed by a good kisser.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
But the good kisser could have a terrible personality, but
a good.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Kiss You choose personality or kissing.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, man, I care about kissing anyway means to ends.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Would you choose bikini body over personality?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I think well, I think we'll answer that some other time,
because it's not about me, it's about money.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Commons.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
He has saved a little girl from choking on a lolly.
He was at Lower Eltham Park playground in Melbourne last
Saturday at the girls I'm presuming the kid's birthday party,
and the girl started choking on a soft lollie.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So he's and the poor mother. The girl's mother was beside.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Herself because she unsuccessfully tried to offer the first day
to the little girl and it wouldn't come out, and
it's very stressing when a little kid starts choking.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, yes, so Nicks come along. I don't know how
he did it.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
They don't recommend you do the Heimlich maneuver on anyone,
especially a little kid.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
That's not what he did.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
What we did.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I did a first aid course recently for my cox
and certificate back to a brag there.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But you hang the kid upside down and jiggle him about.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And is that what he did it?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It can be. I'm not toure.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I don't have that information, but it is a very
distressing thing when they're choking.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
So what a hero and is his mum come forward
to tell the story.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
This has just come out in front of me that
I have no other information other than that this is
breaking news for me.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
But he might not have chosen a foxy lady to
take home. Now he's saved a child.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, imagine that.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
If you're walking past the park and you just see
Nick Cummins with a kid.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Feet shaken it about, choose one. What are you doing?
It's a kid.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Nick the honey bed just beating up that little kid
because it's brutal.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'll tell you that, right, now it's brutal.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, but what a relief.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's brutal.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I remember years ago, my sister is allergic to bees,
and I'd been watching Harry Butler in the wild.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Did you remember Harry Butler in the wild. He's seen
him for some reason. There was a whole raft of
those guys.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
There was Harry Butler, it was Malcolm Douglas, Ben Croppy,
Albi Mangle.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yes, and also the bush tucker Man.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
This was before these guys begat.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
The bush tucker Man and Albi Mangle was accused of
rigging a lot of the stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Lots of jokes about Ben Crop, for he's a skull
and boers find at the same place every you.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Put that skull there last week.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
But and I always found with Harry Butler, he would
always give your bush remedies for if something happened, Like
Malcolm Douglas, for example, he'd be on his alumin and
tin boat and he'd always run out of water the
tide blue eyes.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Go out, read the tide chart, Harry.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Then Malcolm would be Malcolm Waste Waste, deep in mud,
trying to get his quintracks out of the mud.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And you'd say, tie chart So what did you learn
from Harry?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Harry taught me how to remove a beasting from a
person effectively without injecting the poison into their flesh.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
How do you do?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So what a lot of people do.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
You get stung by a bee, the beasting comes off,
but also there's.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
A little sack that stays in the skin.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
The sack is on the end of the stinger that
comes out of the bees bum, and the sack is.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Full of the poison. And a lot of people would.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Think, oh, that's a handy little place thing to pull
the bee sting out. But no, no, no, what you're
doing is more or less injecting the bee poison, the
venom into the subject.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
So what should you do?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
And well, what you do is you get your fingernail
underneath the sign and you tease it out.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's what you do with a tick too.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
So, and my sister who's allergic to bees, like deadly
allergic to bees.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I saved her life.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Wow, my grandmother saved my life. When I was two
and I no I'd wandered off around the No one
knew where I was. I was around the back of
the couch and there's a tin of peanuts that had
a ring pull to open the lid, and the ring
pool had come off, and I put it in my
mouth and I was quietly choking. It was my grandmother

(13:55):
that noticed hung me upside down, and then it was
the tip of her fingernail, of her little finger. She
was able to scoop it out ross I would have died.
Goodness me, imagine, imagine who you're already planning, who you
have in this ulterior universe on the sliding doors, who
you're doing this show with.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I'm just imagining you're doing something quietly, quietly choking, because
you don't do anything quietly. The end, everybody, it's time
for and Amanda's cutting room for.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's time for John and.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Amanda's cutting Room for It's the cutting room for on.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
The cutting room floor today.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know, we've got a lot to say the Internet
for because you could be going about your business and
you're reading article that says you've been brushing your teeth wrong.
But you've been wiping your eyes wrong, you've been breathing incorrectly.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, it's always you've been doing it wrong for.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
These Yeah, Well, here's one I saw and I wanted
to see what you think of. Let's go how long
various household products should be in your home before you
throw them out?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Okay, well, don't you ask me and then I'll answer,
and then you've I'm presuming you have the correct answer.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
It sounds like a quiz show Brenda.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Why don't you ask me and I presume you have
the answer. That's what we'd call it.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, have you been paying attention?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Which pretty much speaks what it means, so this would
be the same.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
All right, let's start with this. A bath sponge? You know,
how do you have a bath sponge? These are those
things like a loofer. It's not so much a loofer,
it's like a well, it's a sponge that you wash
your body with.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I don't have one of those. My wife has, women
have they? Okay?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
How often should that be replaced? Not your wife, the sponge?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Do you replace them? Would you bother? It could last
for years?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Three to four weeks, it says.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Here every three to four weeks.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Well, I guess it gets gems and mank inside.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well, in Roman times, they didn't have toilet paper. They
had a.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Rag on a stick on a stick, and you wipe
your bum with that and.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Then you pretty much pass it to the next person.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's how parmesan cheese was.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
All right, how you.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Do you, guys? I'm wrong on that one.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Do you own a toothbrush?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I do.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I got an electric one. Have you don't you have electric?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
You know what, this is a terrible thing to admit
about myself. I'm so impatient. I don't have the patience
for an electric toothbrush. I've tried to have an electric toothbrush,
and I turn it off before it's finished because I
just I'm not patient enough. I'm wearing my whole life.
It's such as pace. Yeah, right, that I don't have
the patience to have my You.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Can use electric toothbrush for as long as you use
your normal toothbrush.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
For you don't have well, it was set to a time,
it was supposed to.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well, my one goes you need after two minutes? Brush?
Who's brushing for two minutes?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Make it to two? Many?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
But I will say this, I don't use that feature
often in the morning.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I just use it like I would use a normal.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Tooth And what about the sponge on a stick? All right,
so let's see what are you saying that you still
have to replace the end of it. Don't you How
long a regular toothbrush or yours should be replaced? How often?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I probably you? Probably four months? I reckon, after four months?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Do you do you?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Because I got a bunch of I've hooked in with
the oral b people.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
And did you misunderstand the website?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I work with her down in the snow. She was great.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
They send me the heads of those send me their
heads every four months.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I changed it three months. Do you actually? You know?
What I think is funny is that you use a
hair brush more than I do. You're like the Fonds.
You come in here and brush your hair.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I do well. I wear a motorcycle helmet every day.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
What difference does it make to brush?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Show?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
How often should a hairbrush be replaced? And don't say
don't pretend that you're more hygienic than you are. Tell
how often you replace it?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Never? You could have a hair brush, I reckon for
a thousand years.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
You pick the hair out of it, But why would
you have to change it?

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Apparently a hair brush should be replaced every three to
six months. No, I just pulled the hair out of
it about once a year.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You're you're working with big hair brush.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Now big hair brush.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, that's what they do, so you buy more of
their product.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
How about this? Do you use a disposable raiser?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yes? I do often?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Should that be replaced?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh I do that, I do it. I know you
wife use it on the legs.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Well no, we've got separate ones in the in the
in the shower, so I use I'm going to say
i'd probably use it about fifteen times, but then it
blunts and it starts scraping your face.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well it should be replaced five to seven shaves.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Jump getting a lot of shaves out of mind.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Then what doesn't mean that that's good because I say,
I've had mine for twelve years. Mine's better. Just means
you shouldn't a kitchen sponge. Yeah, your son.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Golf spongy kitchen sponge I reckon when it gets really manky.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
So I've got old sponge that's been in there for
a long time.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well give me a time. Well I got a few
kitchen I've got two kitchens. I got two kitchens.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh yeah, that's not my fault. Don't hate on me.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Talking about it makes me hate you.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
But there's two kitchen. So the one that doesn't get
nice years.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Oh god, just say it a kitchen sponge. How long
should you six months? One to two weeks.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I've wanted two weeks.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
No Daniels has been on a stick in the bathroom.
Pillows should be replaced. How often?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I've still got my Spidally's pillow from when they first
went into business, so I've had that for ten years.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Twelve months. You should replace your pillow. It's got all
your head man in it. Let's see what else you've got. Yeah,
socks and undies.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Oh, socks and anddies I've got I've got I'm wearing
school socks that I had in a high school and
I left high school in nineteen eighty four.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
What about anddies?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Undies?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I've got unders, you're wearing them.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I've got undies that have been I've been wearing as
long as we've been.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Doing this shut twenty years. I've got twenty year undies.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You should replace them every six to twelve months.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Who's replacing their undies?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well maybe everyone, but you maybe don't show your don't
show your shortcomings.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I know that we have I know that you replaced
around this regularly because you have a lot of accidents.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
And finally, a shower curtain or a shower curtain liner.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
What's a shower curtain liner?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
We'll just say it's a shower curtain. How often should
you replace a flappy shower curtain like a plastic thing.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
It's been a long time since I've had a place
with a shower curtain.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
But you've got five bathrooms, so does one of them
have a curtain?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay, you didn't even.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Disappute it, I know, not on the bones of yours.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Come on say it.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yes, Well, okay, when we had a house in Brisbane,
we had a shower curtain and I remember buying it
from Bunnings at the time, and we lived in the
house for two years.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
And I'll never changed it.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
So six months, I say, so, I.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Had it for two years and before all I know
it could be still there.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
How many years ago was that?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
That was?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
We moved out of Brisbane in ninety ninety eight, and
I know the house went under the underwater in the floods.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Would have the rinse.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
A Brisbane River water fixes all ailes.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Rinse your sponge on a stick in there and go again.
Explains the color of the Brisbane River
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