May 4, 2025 • 6 mins
Mark Riley joins Jonesy & Amanda for an election debrief!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well what a weekend. Anthony Albanezi led Labor to a
historic victory, Peter Dutton lost his seat. Both Palmer proved
that sending unsolicited texts and spending millions and millions of
dollars didn't pay off. For more, we're joined by seven
News political editor Mark Riley.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hollow Mark, Hey, Amanda, this is seen.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Around the world as an anti Trump move. What role
do you think Donald Trump played in this election?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, it was. I said at one stage it was
like Charles and Diana's relationship. There was a third person
in there and they just didn't reveal themselves a long
way through. But look, you know what I've thought about
this over the last couple of days, and I think
I think the impact of Trump is this that Australian
voters saw what was going on in America and to
(00:49):
them that really typified change and as they thought, if
that's the price of change getting that fuller in charge,
we don't want it. And I think that was a
big part of it. But also his policy suite and
the belief writer assumed that Peter Dutton was proposing policies
that were Trump like was enough to repel a lot
(01:11):
of others.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And we saw Peter Dunton's humility in his concession speech
I've found was fantastic and I thought, well, where was
all that during the campaign?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Jonesy, They're always the best speeches. And I said to
Kim Beasley a couple of times, probably unfairly, that geez, Kim,
your concession speeches are good, and I've heard so many
of them. But that's actually on reflection, it is some kind.
But then it was, and it was a very generous speech.
You know, he hit all the right marks. He said
really lovely things about the Prime Minister's mum and what
(01:43):
she would have been thinking about is un from council housing,
all the rest of it. Terrific. See more of that
person on the campaign trail and you may have seen
a little bit of a different was maybe not The
thing that I'm reflecting on now, though, guys that a
lot of people in my business are, is how we
didn't pick up up the level of animosity towards it
(02:04):
up and the Coalition during the campaign. And I think
the answer to that is because we were looking for it.
We're told to find it on the labor side, and
we were looking on the wrong side of the planet.
It was the other side where their voters had their
baseball bats wacking into the palms.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
What do you think this means for the future of
the Liberal Party? I mean, have they lost their far
right as is the end of the culture walls as
a business model. What will it mean for them?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Great question? You know what this is. It is an
existential crisis for the Liberal Party. Not to put it
too profoundly, the problem is, Amanda, that the policies of
the right, of the conservative part of what John Howard
is to call the broad Church, have been resoundingly rejected
by the electorate. But the only the majority of people
(02:47):
who've survived this nuclear blast are conservatives. The moderates have
almost been wiped out because the Teals came at the
Liberal Party from the left, brutalized their vote and then
essentially centered to labor. And I don't think a lot
of Liberal voters realized that they wouldn't vote for Dutton's
brand of liberalism, so they but they couldn't bring themselves
(03:10):
to vote for labor, so they voted tea or independent,
and by virtue doing that, their preferences went straight through labor.
So they lost a lot of their moderate edge, and
now in the broad Church, that small il liberal progressive
part is being excommunicated. All you've got left is the
conservatives looking at a landscape where the people are telling
(03:30):
them to go back to the center where the moderates
used to used to live and no longer. So it's
a really tough plant find guy mart Yeah, well guy
or woman exactly? Well, a woman would be a bad thing,
would it. You know, you need change, You need to
put a different face to the people, and you need
to put a different policy prescription and the culture wars.
(03:52):
You know, stop the division, don't set everything up as
a fight. Put a positive agenda to the people, and
a female face would help. But remember Julie Bishop said,
you know, I asked her when she clicked her redheels
and took off out of politics. Will the Liberal Party
ever elect a woman as lead? And she said, probably not.
And you know, we would giving him a choice, and
(04:13):
they haven't taken it. So at the moment you've got
four contenders. Angus Taylor's probably the leading contendant because he'll
get the numbers from the right, from that conservative part
of the party that now still probably more intensely dominates
the party room. There's Dantine from Victoria. I don't think
he'll get the support Susan Lee. She's a moderate and
(04:35):
a woman, and I don't think they haven't come electing
a moderate leaders it's more com terrible and they didn't
like that what happened there, and I don't think they'll
do it again. And the other one is Andrew Hasty,
who's from the West, which Bob and Beasley would say
is a very difficult place to lead from and not impossible.
But he's also young, so he represents the future for
them and you know, do you want to burn a
(04:57):
future leader in what will be? There'll be churn and
burn in this sink for for them in leadership it
would be really difficult troll. I don't know why anyone
would want it, but anyway that they will, so it's
a it's a conundrument. Well, mate, In the meantime, you know,
there's the other side of the equation. You know, Labor
have been masterful in the way that they set up
(05:20):
this election, the campaign and the and the questions to people.
So he had those, you know, the Prime Minister on
your program, on our programs, everywhere, talking about many care,
talking about bulk billing, talking about urgent care clinics, talking
about cheaper medicines and sort of stuff that really connects
with people. And he's been doing that since January, and
it works and in any circumstances, you know, Okay, it
(05:42):
wasn't perfect. But in politics, we look at things in
a binary way, and the winners of elections luxuriate in
the rosier glory of their brilliance and the and the
losers are a bunch of knuckleheads. That's just the way
that the analysis goes. But in this case it's pretty true.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well, thank you your analysis. You can get all the latest,
of course, Mike Ferguson and Angela Cox on seven News
tonight at six o'clock on seven and you'll see Mike
Riley in there.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Hey, thanks for us. And if I can I say
if I was able to watch another network, another program,
and maybe I just sort of blinked at the piano
last night. Oh my god, Amanda, what a great program.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It'll be great. I was there at the time and
it was filmed and I was still bored. When I
watched it last night.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I had a little tear. I was seeing the thinking,
oh I must be tired. That was a wonderful program.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Thank you see the old journalists don't and the blob
come on.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Thank you back there
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well what a weekend. Anthony Albanezi led Labor to a
historic victory, Peter Dutton lost his seat. Both Palmer proved
that sending unsolicited texts and spending millions and millions of
dollars didn't pay off. For more, we're joined by seven
News political editor Mark Riley.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hollow Mark, Hey, Amanda, this is seen.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Around the world as an anti Trump move. What role
do you think Donald Trump played in this election?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, it was. I said at one stage it was
like Charles and Diana's relationship. There was a third person
in there and they just didn't reveal themselves a long
way through. But look, you know what I've thought about
this over the last couple of days, and I think
I think the impact of Trump is this that Australian
voters saw what was going on in America and to
(00:49):
them that really typified change and as they thought, if
that's the price of change getting that fuller in charge,
we don't want it. And I think that was a
big part of it. But also his policy suite and
the belief writer assumed that Peter Dutton was proposing policies
that were Trump like was enough to repel a lot
(01:11):
of others.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And we saw Peter Dunton's humility in his concession speech
I've found was fantastic and I thought, well, where was
all that during the campaign?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Jonesy, They're always the best speeches. And I said to
Kim Beasley a couple of times, probably unfairly, that geez, Kim,
your concession speeches are good, and I've heard so many
of them. But that's actually on reflection, it is some kind.
But then it was, and it was a very generous speech.
You know, he hit all the right marks. He said
really lovely things about the Prime Minister's mum and what
(01:43):
she would have been thinking about is un from council housing,
all the rest of it. Terrific. See more of that
person on the campaign trail and you may have seen
a little bit of a different was maybe not The
thing that I'm reflecting on now, though, guys that a
lot of people in my business are, is how we
didn't pick up up the level of animosity towards it
(02:04):
up and the Coalition during the campaign. And I think
the answer to that is because we were looking for it.
We're told to find it on the labor side, and
we were looking on the wrong side of the planet.
It was the other side where their voters had their
baseball bats wacking into the palms.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
What do you think this means for the future of
the Liberal Party? I mean, have they lost their far
right as is the end of the culture walls as
a business model. What will it mean for them?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Great question? You know what this is. It is an
existential crisis for the Liberal Party. Not to put it
too profoundly, the problem is, Amanda, that the policies of
the right, of the conservative part of what John Howard
is to call the broad Church, have been resoundingly rejected
by the electorate. But the only the majority of people
(02:47):
who've survived this nuclear blast are conservatives. The moderates have
almost been wiped out because the Teals came at the
Liberal Party from the left, brutalized their vote and then
essentially centered to labor. And I don't think a lot
of Liberal voters realized that they wouldn't vote for Dutton's
brand of liberalism, so they but they couldn't bring themselves
(03:10):
to vote for labor, so they voted tea or independent,
and by virtue doing that, their preferences went straight through labor.
So they lost a lot of their moderate edge, and
now in the broad Church, that small il liberal progressive
part is being excommunicated. All you've got left is the
conservatives looking at a landscape where the people are telling
(03:30):
them to go back to the center where the moderates
used to used to live and no longer. So it's
a really tough plant find guy mart Yeah, well guy
or woman exactly? Well, a woman would be a bad thing,
would it. You know, you need change, You need to
put a different face to the people, and you need
to put a different policy prescription and the culture wars.
(03:52):
You know, stop the division, don't set everything up as
a fight. Put a positive agenda to the people, and
a female face would help. But remember Julie Bishop said,
you know, I asked her when she clicked her redheels
and took off out of politics. Will the Liberal Party
ever elect a woman as lead? And she said, probably not.
And you know, we would giving him a choice, and
(04:13):
they haven't taken it. So at the moment you've got
four contenders. Angus Taylor's probably the leading contendant because he'll
get the numbers from the right, from that conservative part
of the party that now still probably more intensely dominates
the party room. There's Dantine from Victoria. I don't think
he'll get the support Susan Lee. She's a moderate and
(04:35):
a woman, and I don't think they haven't come electing
a moderate leaders it's more com terrible and they didn't
like that what happened there, and I don't think they'll
do it again. And the other one is Andrew Hasty,
who's from the West, which Bob and Beasley would say
is a very difficult place to lead from and not impossible.
But he's also young, so he represents the future for
them and you know, do you want to burn a
(04:57):
future leader in what will be? There'll be churn and
burn in this sink for for them in leadership it
would be really difficult troll. I don't know why anyone
would want it, but anyway that they will, so it's
a it's a conundrument. Well, mate, In the meantime, you know,
there's the other side of the equation. You know, Labor
have been masterful in the way that they set up
(05:20):
this election, the campaign and the and the questions to people.
So he had those, you know, the Prime Minister on
your program, on our programs, everywhere, talking about many care,
talking about bulk billing, talking about urgent care clinics, talking
about cheaper medicines and sort of stuff that really connects
with people. And he's been doing that since January, and
it works and in any circumstances, you know, Okay, it
(05:42):
wasn't perfect. But in politics, we look at things in
a binary way, and the winners of elections luxuriate in
the rosier glory of their brilliance and the and the
losers are a bunch of knuckleheads. That's just the way
that the analysis goes. But in this case it's pretty true.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well, thank you your analysis. You can get all the latest,
of course, Mike Ferguson and Angela Cox on seven News
tonight at six o'clock on seven and you'll see Mike
Riley in there.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Hey, thanks for us. And if I can I say
if I was able to watch another network, another program,
and maybe I just sort of blinked at the piano
last night. Oh my god, Amanda, what a great program.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It'll be great. I was there at the time and
it was filmed and I was still bored. When I
watched it last night.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I had a little tear. I was seeing the thinking,
oh I must be tired. That was a wonderful program.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Thank you see the old journalists don't and the blob
come on.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Thank you back there
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