October 28, 2025 • 7 mins
Our good friend Julia Zemiro joins Jonesy & Amanda to chat about Fisk and her brand new show, Crime Night!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
My Heart podcasts, hear more Gold one on one point
seven podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation hear and She's Grooving.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Julia Zemiro is the queen of quick wit, of sharp suits,
of perfectly timed side eye. She's got a new show,
Crime Night. Julia.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello, Crime light exclamation mark if I may correct, please
let me have it. Yes, you're quite light. Mark makes
all the difference. This must have been a gift of
a show.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But with your character, Helen, how long did it take
to do the hair and get out of the hair?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh? It took our actual hair. Yeah, it was my
actual hair. It took an hour to do and a
beautiful makeup artists who I thanked in my LOGI speech
because without them I would be dead and it wouldn't
take that long to come out. They would do a
good tease and then you can untease carefully. So fifteen
minutes I was out of the chair.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Which is I like the menace that your character has.
There's a slight, there's a deal of menace and her
with a brother Ray yeh. I just the way they
run that business. And I've worked for people like that
brother and sister teams.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I reckon Kitty Just and her sister Penny, who wrote
it with her, and they just zoned in on that
small office shenanigans and all.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The politics, the minutia of the chocolate mudcake day, the
photo copy of the coffee cups.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And that great piece you played before, which is you know,
Roz just wants thinks you should do small talk all
day long. And Kitty Helen's like, why we said hello
this morning? We talked about our weekend, and I'm like, well,
there isn't a statute of limitations on saying hello, Helen.
You know, it's more that it's got to keep going.
So yeah, she's honed in on all those things. And
we had some great guests and Will's and Probate. I mean,
(01:50):
how many ashes do you get? You get a teaspoon
of ashes. In this particular case, I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Pitched an idea to Kitty when she was in here
that we're a radio show and we're having a feud
about a joke, and we both go in and we
have the same man and I have and she seemed keen.
I don't know if she was really keen. Pretend keen
or real.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, we did do a story based on a real story,
which was the look alike so beautiful ads Perhaps played
a news he thought he was the son of a
famous news reader. Was sort of George Danickian kind of.
But it was based on the Reg Grundy case where
when redg Grey died, a man came forward and said
I think I could be his son, and the police
said whine. He said, because I look like him, and
(02:30):
it's like, well you need more than that, and he
just wouldn't let it go and it became a huge
court case. So Kitty and Penny went, let's do this.
Alex perhaps thinks he's the son of a George Denickian
type of news reader. It was hilarious. He was hilarious
away from that show.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But I remember reading about the Reg Grundy's secret love child.
It didn't occur to me if someone just thought he
looked like.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We had the same mustage. It was all about the moustache.
I know he could be my dad too. No one
said anything about you, Amanda, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But what about your new show? So what's the obsession
with a true crime?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
We love true crime, but crime is grizzly. Why do
we love it? I completely agree with you. I'm not
a fan of true crime, and there is no true crime.
There's just crime, right and the bit of a shame
people have kind of gone in and gone or is
this about true crime? Not at all? Because his comedians involved, Look,
it's a deep dive into criminology. Our producer Frank during
(03:23):
Covid got a bit bored and he put his time
to good use. He actually need a criminology degree. Was
so enamored by his two lecturers, Dannielle and David he
makes TV, and he thought, well, maybe I could make
this into a television show. Spoke with them. Did they
think that it was a good idea and they said,
we'd love to spread the word about what criminology is
about and what we do. But criminology, true crime, crime,
(03:44):
whatever you want to call it, it's about human behavior
and what we hope we do in the show is
look at human behavior and how any one of us
is a step away from doing something wrong, whether we
like it or not. And once you're in that system,
how are you going to look after yourself? And what
do you expect? Because I think we think we know
because we watch TV shows about it, but I don't
think that's necessarily true. So it's absolutely not We're not
(04:07):
going to do it deep dive into pod and all
the rest. They can do all that. I sometimes think
there are some interesting true crime podcasts that go on
for twenty five episodes when ten would have been fined. Absolutely,
and I think what you're doing is you're actually milking
other people's distress. So that's absolutely not we're doing. We
really carefully chose our comedians. We wanted ones who are
going to be curious, be funny about themselves and situations
(04:31):
they might fall into. So there's toxics in the show
like scam, surveillance, conformity. So it's interesting to talk to
comedians and go, well, have you fallen for a scam?
And what do you think about surveillance? Do you think
we watched too much? Do you act differently if you
think you're being watched? Have you conformed? Because you know,
sometimes crime is about conformity. You don't have a family,
you don't have a gang. You join a gang, and
(04:53):
to belong you do things you shouldn't do, and then
a kid will find him or herself in a situation
where they're in trouble. So we're obsessed, if you like,
we're true crime. And I think it's because well some
people have said it's because you're like I listened to
it because if I were in that situation, from what
would I do? Well, okay, but we are. I think
it's perving.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's like going, it's a little bit, it's living through
someone else's distress. Yes, they're going on a roller coaster
and think, you know, you're testing yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Somehow, And there are some there are some good ones
told out there, I think when they're done journalistically and
they're done with care and respect. Teachers PET for exactly. Yeah,
well see even teachers pet. You know, it took them
like twelve thirteen, fourteen episodes until they started talking about
domestic violence. It was clear that this woman had been
coercively controlled. The parents knew, the family knew, but they
(05:41):
don't reveal that till finally towards the end, so that
there's a whole layer there that we're not looking through
that we could have looked at from the beginning. So yeah,
I don't know. I feel like it's a tricky area.
So with our show, we'll be looking at the ins
and outs. We'll be looking at the laws around it.
Eye witness accounts. At the end of the day, when
you when you're if you commit a crime or you're
(06:03):
accused of a crime, human beings are all we have
as they sit in the jury box and as they
come in with their eyewitness accounts that can or can't
be trusted. You know, we rely a lot on the
human to make those decisions, to decide where you're going
to go.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And they say the best eyewitness is the perpetrator, because
the perpetrator will always give themselves away depending on what
sort of psychological thing that they have.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, we look into that as well. And also you know,
when you deliver an eyewitness account, people say, oh, well,
he was so confident when he delivered it. Often the
most confident ones are the ones that have had that
they aren't sure, whereas the one that sort of stutters
and remembers and looks away is probably the better account
and the truer account. But as an audience, we go, well,
he didn't look very confident. But you ask ten people
(06:45):
in a room who all witnessed the same thing, all
have a different collection, I know, so that you're really
putting your you're putting your potential future in hands. And
of course then there's miscarriages of justice, clear things that
are about bias and racism, so we talk about that
as well, and yeah, we try to and we also
have little experiments that we do on the audience and
that we've done on the comedians to give you a
(07:07):
lighthearted example of what can you remember of that time?
And you know, what would you do? When would you
just sign up for a fishing scam without thinking? Because
we've never been more surveiled, we've never been more tracked,
we've never been more under the eye than we are
today and or more informed in it was still.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Ajo Amanda is the tasering, that's all she I have.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A secret fantasy about being tasered, even I know sometimes
you might lose.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Bad, but that's for another Keller, you never ceased to
amaze me. Places You'll go.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Crime Night premieres next Wednesday thirty on the ABC and
I view Julia's Amiro. Great to see you again.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And congratulations on your new move. Yes to the planes, Julia,
enjoy the drive show. I'll listen to it because I'll
be up
My Heart podcasts, hear more Gold one on one point
seven podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation hear and She's Grooving.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Julia Zemiro is the queen of quick wit, of sharp suits,
of perfectly timed side eye. She's got a new show,
Crime Night. Julia.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello, Crime light exclamation mark if I may correct, please
let me have it. Yes, you're quite light. Mark makes
all the difference. This must have been a gift of
a show.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But with your character, Helen, how long did it take
to do the hair and get out of the hair?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Oh? It took our actual hair. Yeah, it was my
actual hair. It took an hour to do and a
beautiful makeup artists who I thanked in my LOGI speech
because without them I would be dead and it wouldn't
take that long to come out. They would do a
good tease and then you can untease carefully. So fifteen
minutes I was out of the chair.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Which is I like the menace that your character has.
There's a slight, there's a deal of menace and her
with a brother Ray yeh. I just the way they
run that business. And I've worked for people like that
brother and sister teams.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I reckon Kitty Just and her sister Penny, who wrote
it with her, and they just zoned in on that
small office shenanigans and all.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
The politics, the minutia of the chocolate mudcake day, the
photo copy of the coffee cups.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And that great piece you played before, which is you know,
Roz just wants thinks you should do small talk all
day long. And Kitty Helen's like, why we said hello
this morning? We talked about our weekend, and I'm like, well,
there isn't a statute of limitations on saying hello, Helen.
You know, it's more that it's got to keep going.
So yeah, she's honed in on all those things. And
we had some great guests and Will's and Probate. I mean,
(01:50):
how many ashes do you get? You get a teaspoon
of ashes. In this particular case, I.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Pitched an idea to Kitty when she was in here
that we're a radio show and we're having a feud
about a joke, and we both go in and we
have the same man and I have and she seemed keen.
I don't know if she was really keen. Pretend keen
or real.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, we did do a story based on a real story,
which was the look alike so beautiful ads Perhaps played
a news he thought he was the son of a
famous news reader. Was sort of George Danickian kind of.
But it was based on the Reg Grundy case where
when redg Grey died, a man came forward and said
I think I could be his son, and the police
said whine. He said, because I look like him, and
(02:30):
it's like, well you need more than that, and he
just wouldn't let it go and it became a huge
court case. So Kitty and Penny went, let's do this.
Alex perhaps thinks he's the son of a George Denickian
type of news reader. It was hilarious. He was hilarious
away from that show.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But I remember reading about the Reg Grundy's secret love child.
It didn't occur to me if someone just thought he
looked like.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We had the same mustage. It was all about the moustache.
I know he could be my dad too. No one
said anything about you, Amanda, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But what about your new show? So what's the obsession
with a true crime?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
We love true crime, but crime is grizzly. Why do
we love it? I completely agree with you. I'm not
a fan of true crime, and there is no true crime.
There's just crime, right and the bit of a shame
people have kind of gone in and gone or is
this about true crime? Not at all? Because his comedians involved, Look,
it's a deep dive into criminology. Our producer Frank during
(03:23):
Covid got a bit bored and he put his time
to good use. He actually need a criminology degree. Was
so enamored by his two lecturers, Dannielle and David he
makes TV, and he thought, well, maybe I could make
this into a television show. Spoke with them. Did they
think that it was a good idea and they said,
we'd love to spread the word about what criminology is
about and what we do. But criminology, true crime, crime,
(03:44):
whatever you want to call it, it's about human behavior
and what we hope we do in the show is
look at human behavior and how any one of us
is a step away from doing something wrong, whether we
like it or not. And once you're in that system,
how are you going to look after yourself? And what
do you expect? Because I think we think we know
because we watch TV shows about it, but I don't
think that's necessarily true. So it's absolutely not We're not
(04:07):
going to do it deep dive into pod and all
the rest. They can do all that. I sometimes think
there are some interesting true crime podcasts that go on
for twenty five episodes when ten would have been fined. Absolutely,
and I think what you're doing is you're actually milking
other people's distress. So that's absolutely not we're doing. We
really carefully chose our comedians. We wanted ones who are
going to be curious, be funny about themselves and situations
(04:31):
they might fall into. So there's toxics in the show
like scam, surveillance, conformity. So it's interesting to talk to
comedians and go, well, have you fallen for a scam?
And what do you think about surveillance? Do you think
we watched too much? Do you act differently if you
think you're being watched? Have you conformed? Because you know,
sometimes crime is about conformity. You don't have a family,
you don't have a gang. You join a gang, and
(04:53):
to belong you do things you shouldn't do, and then
a kid will find him or herself in a situation
where they're in trouble. So we're obsessed, if you like,
we're true crime. And I think it's because well some
people have said it's because you're like I listened to
it because if I were in that situation, from what
would I do? Well, okay, but we are. I think
it's perving.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's like going, it's a little bit, it's living through
someone else's distress. Yes, they're going on a roller coaster
and think, you know, you're testing yourself.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Somehow, And there are some there are some good ones
told out there, I think when they're done journalistically and
they're done with care and respect. Teachers PET for exactly. Yeah,
well see even teachers pet. You know, it took them
like twelve thirteen, fourteen episodes until they started talking about
domestic violence. It was clear that this woman had been
coercively controlled. The parents knew, the family knew, but they
(05:41):
don't reveal that till finally towards the end, so that
there's a whole layer there that we're not looking through
that we could have looked at from the beginning. So yeah,
I don't know. I feel like it's a tricky area.
So with our show, we'll be looking at the ins
and outs. We'll be looking at the laws around it.
Eye witness accounts. At the end of the day, when
you when you're if you commit a crime or you're
(06:03):
accused of a crime, human beings are all we have
as they sit in the jury box and as they
come in with their eyewitness accounts that can or can't
be trusted. You know, we rely a lot on the
human to make those decisions, to decide where you're going
to go.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And they say the best eyewitness is the perpetrator, because
the perpetrator will always give themselves away depending on what
sort of psychological thing that they have.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, we look into that as well. And also you know,
when you deliver an eyewitness account, people say, oh, well,
he was so confident when he delivered it. Often the
most confident ones are the ones that have had that
they aren't sure, whereas the one that sort of stutters
and remembers and looks away is probably the better account
and the truer account. But as an audience, we go, well,
he didn't look very confident. But you ask ten people
(06:45):
in a room who all witnessed the same thing, all
have a different collection, I know, so that you're really
putting your you're putting your potential future in hands. And
of course then there's miscarriages of justice, clear things that
are about bias and racism, so we talk about that
as well, and yeah, we try to and we also
have little experiments that we do on the audience and
that we've done on the comedians to give you a
(07:07):
lighthearted example of what can you remember of that time?
And you know, what would you do? When would you
just sign up for a fishing scam without thinking? Because
we've never been more surveiled, we've never been more tracked,
we've never been more under the eye than we are
today and or more informed in it was still.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Ajo Amanda is the tasering, that's all she I have.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A secret fantasy about being tasered, even I know sometimes
you might lose.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Bad, but that's for another Keller, you never ceased to
amaze me. Places You'll go.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Crime Night premieres next Wednesday thirty on the ABC and
I view Julia's Amiro. Great to see you again.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And congratulations on your new move. Yes to the planes, Julia,
enjoy the drive show. I'll listen to it because I'll
be up
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