April 23, 2024 • 8 mins
The extraordinary Julie Goodwin joins Jonesy & Amanda for an emotional chat ahead of the release of her new memoir, Your Time Starts Now.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And Amanda jam Nation. Hello, Julie, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning? I'm well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Before we go any further in TikTok Tucker, we try
food that we've seen on TikTok. We think that looks
a bit odd? Is it going to be a success
or a disaster? Before you is a bowl of pork crackling?
Would you mind putting it? Let's help you make this
very detailed recipe.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Julie, do this if you can.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You pour some milk into that, Pour some milk on
milk on pork crackling, and then some cinnamon and a
dollop of cream and see what you make of it.
Because we weren't sure. We went like it hated like
it hated out. Our taste buds were all over the shop.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Can you add the cinnamon like salt Bay does.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't want to make a message. You probably sneeze
and cream and a dollip of cream. This is like keito.
I think it's got no carbs and extra fat. That's
what keto is all about.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But I don't know if you'd normally put pork crackling
in a cereal. All right, you're going into you're going
in still get a big bit of crackling happening. Really yep,
Oh god, you're pulling a face.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, no, no, it's horrible. Oh that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Apewban for Julie.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Has it gone down? See, you've been on I'm a celebrity.
You've tasted worse than that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've put worse things in that in my mouth. Oh
my god, that's why would you choose to do that?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I know, well, we're thinking the same thing, Julie. This
book is quite extraordinary because, as you say in the book,
you know well, as we know, loved Bubbly TV cookbook
radio host. But you've been very honest about the dark
sides too. How dark did it get? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Look, when the wheels fell off completely in sort of
twenty nineteen and the start of twenty twenty, it got
very I was unwell and it was life threatening, and
so I went all the way to the bottom and I,
you know, I very nearly didn't make it out.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Well, you write about how you went to the water,
the water's edge, and a couple and their dog. You
don't even know these people, you didn't. Then they pretty
much saved your life.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They did, they did. They had spotted me as I
walked past them, and you know, I was obviously in
a not a great state, and this young lady gave
me a hug. She said, you know, can I give
you a hug? And she gave me a hug and said,
are you okay? And I said, I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now it was a total life. And then I went
and I.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Sat on a bench and I was just getting ready,
and they came back and they sat next to me
and just said, you look like you need some company.
And they sat with me for a couple of hours
and just chatted about small stuff. And by the end
of that couple of hours, I was ready to ring
my husband and income and take me home.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Because the saddest thing is you felt that your family
would be relieved that because you'd been troublesome, and that
you felt that that they'd be relieved for you to go.
How wonderful you went home and they could convince you otherwise.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, yeah, and that I mean, it's not true. It's
not true that they would have been better off without me.
But that's in that time and in that that sickness
and that despair, I believe that I believe that to
the core of my being. That I was doing the
best thing for everybody. It wasn't about escaping. It was
literally about making what I thought was the best choice
(03:29):
for everybody, and it wasn't true. And I'm so grateful
that I had a moment and I was taken out
of that for long enough to reflect properly on it,
and to you know, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I didn't get home that night. I was taken to hospital.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
So you know, I got home much later that night,
but I was taken to hospital first. Mick just said,
I can't deal with this. I'm not equipped. I need
help from professionals, you know. Against I didn't want to
go to hospital. I was exhausted.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I want to go home.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But it was it was the start of, you know,
a long, long hall of getting better.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
For that self awareness. Though you're sitting there and you're
at the brink. As you said, those people come along
and it wasn't wrapped up as easily as that. But
talk us through how and if anyone's in that same
state of mind, how do you come back from that?
What is it? If those people, for example, hadn't come along,
do you think you wouldn't be here?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, there's a very very real possibility.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And that's what you need. And so I guess it
lays on everyone to be aware of your surrounds, be
aware of what's going on in the world. But that
assure is what switched you into that state of mind,
what switched you out of.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It in that moment.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It was just the ordinariness of this conversation. It was
they told me about their family, I told them about mine.
We talked about our dogs. They actually made me laugh
a couple of times, and it was that I.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Just went, how is it possible it possible for me
to laugh?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I didn't know there was any laughter left. I didn't know,
And so that sort of made me stop and think.
I would just say to anybody who's approaching anything nearing that,
talk to somebody. Just talk to somebody. And whether it's
somebody you know, whether it's a friend or a family member,
or whether you pick up a phone to you know,
(05:23):
a helpline beyond Blue. You know I do work with
they have amazing counselors and stuff. Just that's got to
be the first step. That's what saved my life, and
that's what I think would be life saving for other people.
This is why I've written this book, right, It's because
there's all these little signs and symptoms that lead up
to that. You don't just wake up one day and
decide that this is my last day. I can't do
(05:45):
this anymore. There are lots and lots of signs leading
up to it. And that's why I've written the book.
I would love for people to read it and go, actually,
I'm experiencing one or two of those things, or I
have a couple of those circumstances surrounding my life, you
know that overwhelmed, more, too busy, or no time for
beautiful things. Or I've got you know, unresolved trauma from
(06:06):
my past. That's I feel bubbling back up. Any of
those things start to talk now, because eventually the voices
in your head get louder than the voices outside your head,
and they're not telling you the right stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Wow, very powerful. Thank you, Tulie.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's amazing. That is amazing. And I would have been
terrible to make you eat that stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You said all that.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's coding, my man, a new chapter on your next cookbook.
Oh yes, that's what Not to cookbook?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But how do you feel now?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm good now, Jonesy. I've spent quite a few years
gone in and out of different treatments. But I've found
the person who who works with me on my brain,
and I've got a whole lot of strategies in place,
and they're all good for me, you know, they're all great,
and but you know, I think the most important one
is just choosing choosing joy and choosing to make sure
(07:04):
I prioritize things that bring me joy.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And you know, we don't tend to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You know, we look around, we make sure everybody else
is okay, and we tend to neglect our own self.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But what I've.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Learned in a really real way is that if you
do continue to neglect yourself, then you're no good to
anybody at all. So if you want to be there
for your family and there for your friends, and present
to your colleagues and everybody else, you actually you hear
it over and over, but until until it hits home. Sure,
you know, you have to look after yourself. So I've
(07:38):
got to I've got to fill myself up with things
that bring me joy, and there is so much of that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I've got a three year old granddaughter.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Who is the light of all of our lives and
being with her is just instant happiness. So I make
sure I spend time with her. I make sure I
do things that are creative that I love, and I
make sure that I take on work that either has
purpose and fulfills me or is how I make a living.
But there's got to be balanced. There's got to be
(08:04):
all the good things as well as all the necessary things.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Which is why your book also has that sausage raw
recipe that is.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
One of the necessary things.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That is a necessary thing, not so necessarily the carnival
cereal you put on you early in the interview. Julie,
thank you for coming out. Thank you for being so
brave with your story. I've never heard this articulated as
well as you've just done it just there.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The memoir is out now at all good bookstores near you.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Julie Goodwin, thank you, Thank you very much.
And Amanda jam Nation. Hello, Julie, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning? I'm well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Before we go any further in TikTok Tucker, we try
food that we've seen on TikTok. We think that looks
a bit odd? Is it going to be a success
or a disaster? Before you is a bowl of pork crackling?
Would you mind putting it? Let's help you make this
very detailed recipe.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Julie, do this if you can.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You pour some milk into that, Pour some milk on
milk on pork crackling, and then some cinnamon and a
dollop of cream and see what you make of it.
Because we weren't sure. We went like it hated like
it hated out. Our taste buds were all over the shop.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Can you add the cinnamon like salt Bay does.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't want to make a message. You probably sneeze
and cream and a dollip of cream. This is like keito.
I think it's got no carbs and extra fat. That's
what keto is all about.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But I don't know if you'd normally put pork crackling
in a cereal. All right, you're going into you're going
in still get a big bit of crackling happening. Really yep,
Oh god, you're pulling a face.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, no, no, it's horrible. Oh that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Apewban for Julie.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Has it gone down? See, you've been on I'm a celebrity.
You've tasted worse than that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've put worse things in that in my mouth. Oh
my god, that's why would you choose to do that?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I know, well, we're thinking the same thing, Julie. This
book is quite extraordinary because, as you say in the book,
you know well, as we know, loved Bubbly TV cookbook
radio host. But you've been very honest about the dark
sides too. How dark did it get? Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Look, when the wheels fell off completely in sort of
twenty nineteen and the start of twenty twenty, it got
very I was unwell and it was life threatening, and
so I went all the way to the bottom and I,
you know, I very nearly didn't make it out.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Well, you write about how you went to the water,
the water's edge, and a couple and their dog. You
don't even know these people, you didn't. Then they pretty
much saved your life.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
They did, they did. They had spotted me as I
walked past them, and you know, I was obviously in
a not a great state, and this young lady gave
me a hug. She said, you know, can I give
you a hug? And she gave me a hug and said,
are you okay? And I said, I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now it was a total life. And then I went
and I.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Sat on a bench and I was just getting ready,
and they came back and they sat next to me
and just said, you look like you need some company.
And they sat with me for a couple of hours
and just chatted about small stuff. And by the end
of that couple of hours, I was ready to ring
my husband and income and take me home.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Because the saddest thing is you felt that your family
would be relieved that because you'd been troublesome, and that
you felt that that they'd be relieved for you to go.
How wonderful you went home and they could convince you otherwise.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, yeah, and that I mean, it's not true. It's
not true that they would have been better off without me.
But that's in that time and in that that sickness
and that despair, I believe that I believe that to
the core of my being. That I was doing the
best thing for everybody. It wasn't about escaping. It was
literally about making what I thought was the best choice
(03:29):
for everybody, and it wasn't true. And I'm so grateful
that I had a moment and I was taken out
of that for long enough to reflect properly on it,
and to you know, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I didn't get home that night. I was taken to hospital.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
So you know, I got home much later that night,
but I was taken to hospital first. Mick just said,
I can't deal with this. I'm not equipped. I need
help from professionals, you know. Against I didn't want to
go to hospital. I was exhausted.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I want to go home.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
But it was it was the start of, you know,
a long, long hall of getting better.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
For that self awareness. Though you're sitting there and you're
at the brink. As you said, those people come along
and it wasn't wrapped up as easily as that. But
talk us through how and if anyone's in that same
state of mind, how do you come back from that?
What is it? If those people, for example, hadn't come along,
do you think you wouldn't be here?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, there's a very very real possibility.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And that's what you need. And so I guess it
lays on everyone to be aware of your surrounds, be
aware of what's going on in the world. But that
assure is what switched you into that state of mind,
what switched you out of.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It in that moment.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It was just the ordinariness of this conversation. It was
they told me about their family, I told them about mine.
We talked about our dogs. They actually made me laugh
a couple of times, and it was that I.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Just went, how is it possible it possible for me
to laugh?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I didn't know there was any laughter left. I didn't know,
And so that sort of made me stop and think.
I would just say to anybody who's approaching anything nearing that,
talk to somebody. Just talk to somebody. And whether it's
somebody you know, whether it's a friend or a family member,
or whether you pick up a phone to you know,
(05:23):
a helpline beyond Blue. You know I do work with
they have amazing counselors and stuff. Just that's got to
be the first step. That's what saved my life, and
that's what I think would be life saving for other people.
This is why I've written this book, right, It's because
there's all these little signs and symptoms that lead up
to that. You don't just wake up one day and
decide that this is my last day. I can't do
(05:45):
this anymore. There are lots and lots of signs leading
up to it. And that's why I've written the book.
I would love for people to read it and go, actually,
I'm experiencing one or two of those things, or I
have a couple of those circumstances surrounding my life, you
know that overwhelmed, more, too busy, or no time for
beautiful things. Or I've got you know, unresolved trauma from
(06:06):
my past. That's I feel bubbling back up. Any of
those things start to talk now, because eventually the voices
in your head get louder than the voices outside your head,
and they're not telling you the right stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Wow, very powerful. Thank you, Tulie.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's amazing. That is amazing. And I would have been
terrible to make you eat that stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You said all that.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's coding, my man, a new chapter on your next cookbook.
Oh yes, that's what Not to cookbook?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But how do you feel now?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm good now, Jonesy. I've spent quite a few years
gone in and out of different treatments. But I've found
the person who who works with me on my brain,
and I've got a whole lot of strategies in place,
and they're all good for me, you know, they're all great,
and but you know, I think the most important one
is just choosing choosing joy and choosing to make sure
(07:04):
I prioritize things that bring me joy.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And you know, we don't tend to do that.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You know, we look around, we make sure everybody else
is okay, and we tend to neglect our own self.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But what I've.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Learned in a really real way is that if you
do continue to neglect yourself, then you're no good to
anybody at all. So if you want to be there
for your family and there for your friends, and present
to your colleagues and everybody else, you actually you hear
it over and over, but until until it hits home. Sure,
you know, you have to look after yourself. So I've
(07:38):
got to I've got to fill myself up with things
that bring me joy, and there is so much of that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I've got a three year old granddaughter.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Who is the light of all of our lives and
being with her is just instant happiness. So I make
sure I spend time with her. I make sure I
do things that are creative that I love, and I
make sure that I take on work that either has
purpose and fulfills me or is how I make a living.
But there's got to be balanced. There's got to be
(08:04):
all the good things as well as all the necessary things.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Which is why your book also has that sausage raw
recipe that is.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
One of the necessary things.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That is a necessary thing, not so necessarily the carnival
cereal you put on you early in the interview. Julie,
thank you for coming out. Thank you for being so
brave with your story. I've never heard this articulated as
well as you've just done it just there.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The memoir is out now at all good bookstores near you.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Julie Goodwin, thank you, Thank you very much.
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