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December 11, 2025 β€’ 5 mins

The incredible Paul Kelly joins Jonesy & Amanda for an exclusive chat on their very last breakfast show.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Amanda jam Nation.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Our next guess is a friend of the show as
iconic as the Harbor Bridge. I'm talking, of course, of
the wonderful Paul Kelly. We could not wrap up our
time as a breakfast show on this important day without him.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Paul, Hello, Amanda, Hi Jones, It's great to have you here. Congratulations,
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Twenty years of a breakfast show and I said we'd
never last.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Yeah, you do you Amanda.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Years ago, when I got her to come and work
for me, I said to her, just give me.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
I'm going to get the sack from these guys if
you come and do the show.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Just two years you wanted to pay off your daughter's brace.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
My daughter, I had to and she she needed a
teeth fix, and you just saw her outside before. She's
beautiful now, beautiful twenty eight year old woman. But back
then I needed to get a choppers fixed.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
And now that sounds like the time Paul Kelly song,
I needed to get a choppers fix.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
She's getting married next year, right, so at the zoo,
which isn't cheap as you know.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
So Amanda's kept me.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
She's got good choppers though embraces.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
And where these choppers are going to be gleaming, they'll
be gleaming and they and they look good.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So let's talk about you instead of us.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
You know, now this is all about us.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I paused it so long for the ride today you've got.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I know you're going to be performing at the Red
Hot Summer Festival. You've got a whole lot of stuff
going on. Your album seventy is out now, and there's
a very special sequel on seventy.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh yes, it's a sequel to how to Make Gravy,
Because for many years I thought it was it would
be a good idea to tell a bit more of
Rita's story because the original song Gravy she just gets
mentioned in passing and I always thought I'm going to
do a song with reader as there.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, you've never done time, have you. We've talked about
this before.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I have not, but I know a lot of prisoners
don't judge me about this, but I've had a few
mates have run foul of the law, and all of
them have said about that song, the special meaning that
it has uh and the way that you've managed to
get the pathos of what it's like to be inside,
you know, all those little things that you miss when
you're on the outside.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, that's a that's a you know, when I wrote
the song, was trying to get the feeling of Christmas
across and I sort of stumbled on the best way
to do that is to write it from the point
of view of someone who can't be there for Christmas.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
So that's that's how Joe ended up in jail.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
And you performed that in a jail.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Now I performed it in youth correctional facilities, so not
an adult jail.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
No, no, Well that could be a good thing. What
do you say, Paul runs foul the law?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
All should do a jail tour.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
You should wait for Johnny Cash.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Well, they used to do them. We used to play
in jails a lot more in the late eighties.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
We played, We played Long Bay and silver Water and
I guess there was funding around for that kind of
thing then. But I haven't done hasn't done a jail
for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, Jimmy Barnes are saying they played Coach, played a
few jail shows and they were worried about Phil Small
because a lot of the prisoners were eyeing up Phil Small.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Because it was great the base.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It was quite pretty pretty except.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
They throw him in as the burly.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
All of a sudden, the bass player was getting all
the attention.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's not fair, it's not a mat But I do
wonder do you think that if Joe was not a recivetus,
he wouldn't have been in jail. Still he because he
got out of He got out of jail, but he
went back in again.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
That was the that was the problem.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
No, he didn't go back in again.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
He got out of jail and then he but then
he well you know the song, but he doesn't go
back to Charlie.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
He goes straight to straight to his grave.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
The implications of the jail is a mental jail. That's
what I got from the song. Yeah, is this just
drned on you? Because hey, and we'll play it.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
So the.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Way so he's this is after he's dead, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, he's singing, he's singing from the graves. It's like
it's like a ghost story someone from the grave, like
an old folk song.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
The characters have become iconic, but so is the recipe.
Do you love that that recipe is being made in
Australian houses at Christmas?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think it's pretty pretty funny. And I've had some
grief from foodies over the years about the tomato sauce.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah, they wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
You can't call it duke any.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Tomatoes. I did. I have tried it.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I've made your traditional gravy recipe and I did sneer
at the tomato sauce, but I did.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
It does add a little bit of tang, a little
bit of sweetness.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
To that, and you should not have to apologize much.
Family recipe. That's the point of a loved family exactly.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
It works.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
It works for all of us now, paul I just
you're here, and it would be this is our last
show in breakfast Radio before we go to the fruited
plains of drive time Radio.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
And sleep in, sleep In, which I'm looking forward to.
I don't think it'll be out of line.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
If we could ask you to play how to Make Gravy?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Is that possible? I know she brought a guitar.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Final It's like when I was a kid and you
go around to someone's house with a beach towel and
they had a pool.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
The presumptions there, you're going for a swim? Are we
getting in the pool?

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Now I've come, I've come. I've come to seeing gravy.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Well, what do you need? What can a man to
do for you? Before?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Do you we need to have a swim before he's
got the guitar.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
I've got the guitar's right here.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, what we'll do is we'll go to the news
and stuff, and then after the news and stuff, Paul
Kelly with how to make gravy
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