February 3, 2025 • 7 mins
Rachel Griffiths joins Jonesy & Amanda to chat about her new show 'Madam' while also reuniting with our producer who mistakenly called her 'Fatty' a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well, we're about to see Rachel Griffiths like we've never
seen her before. She's back in a brand new series
called Madam, based on a woman who finds herself living
in New Zealand running an ethical escort agency.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's happened to all of us, Rachel Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
An ethical escort agency.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Is an organic, is very organic, It's very it's very woke.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is this is for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Can you have like a woke profit?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You can try.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I think that's what makes this show fun is
there's a woman who's discovered in New Zealand after several
other side hustles have not worked out. And I think
most small businesses in Australia are started by women and
most of them have kids. And it's how do I
get you know, how do I sustain this and have
a work life on my own terms? So she discovers
(00:51):
that this line of business is decriminalized legal in New
Zealand and she thinks, oh that's interesting, goes to check
one out and goes, oh, this is a bit skanky.
I thought it'd be a bit nice. I've given it's
all kosh, it's all above boards, all legit. So she
decides that she's going to have a kind of female
(01:11):
empowered ethical, ethical escort agency.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yes, yeah, And does that make a difference to the
kind of clients that they get? I mean, is it
is it valu added to the business or you're the
only one that cares.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think she cares.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
She cares about She probably cares about this more than
some of the women that work there. And I think
some of the women in our show actually really value
this kind of change of vibe, you know, particularly things
like she gets rid of the lineup, which is the
meat market of this business, you know, where you just.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Why not familiar with this?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But what happens? Does that actually happen? I've seen it
in movies. Is that real? I think so? Yeah? Yeah?
And that's for the statu So you walk in its
police lineup and you choose who you want.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do they have like a I've never been into a brothel,
don't look like you're surprised? And do they have like
a meaning thought? Is something at the top? Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Like I didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I went to a collective as part of my research.
I went to a collective and women came to this
collective to talk to me about it, and I was
so slightly nervous about being photographed or seeing not that
I don't trust the media coming out of a brothel
and having to explain in you know, the headliner in
(02:36):
the Daily Man or a worker exactly, I'm researching my show.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But this is a real I mean the whole show.
It's a comedy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
It's a key week comedy, and I think what makes
it fun is usually when this industry is portrayed in
drama particularly, it's kind of gritty and it's it's a
bit skanky, and it's exploitative. And even if it's kind
of looking at the dark side of this from a
kind of hybrid up, well it says it's worthy, but
actually it's something kind of a bit titillating. At the
(03:07):
same time, they're kind of having having having it both ways,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
But this is a very female twist because I think
when we sit around talking about these things sexes and
all of that, or what you were talking about earlier
that I don't think you can talk about about the
various desserts is we are laughing, right when women talk
about sex, we laugh. And yet when we see it
portrayed in these shows. It's it's always so like nasty and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Duk and New Zealand's famous for its comedies so funny,
UIs are.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
So funny, and I think it's I thought were kind
of the same species, you know, but I think we
have a really different sense of humor, and I think
the Aussie humor can say it's a little bit put
the knife in. You know that I was only joking.
If you're upset, it's like we've we we we rip
each other like we're siblings that just want to want
(04:03):
it to hurt a little bit. But the key we's like,
oh sorry, cuz, oh that would be too far, you know,
and you kind of believe like they don't want anyone
kind of hurting at the end of the you know
that taking the piss out of each other.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I warma, I read someone and a sex work and
be more beneficial than a trip to a psychologist.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well this was This is an interesting discussion, I think
because I spoke to people in the industry and some
of them are like, you know, my best clients like
an extremely large man and he just cannot negotiate this
sexual space comfortably in any other way.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And so you know, she does the.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Girlfriend experience and looks at him and makes him feel
good about who who he is. There's other you know,
people with the disability, and you kind of go for
some people.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Would it not make you feel better?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Gives you back some dignity, dignity and you feel sexy
and like somebody looked in your eye and went.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know you're hot? How good do you feel that?
And in the NDA, this is terrible, this is terrible
that the taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Are paying for sex workers, but we'll pay three hundred
bucks for the psychologist.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I think there'd be some people like that. Go I'll
tell you which one. It makes me feel better.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think some more realistic about this kind of Theramy's
and the human intimacy and loneliness, Like loneliness is an epidemic.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And it is a disease. It's classified as that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I always I remember the ads in the back
of the newspaper for various brothels around town. I always
read them. And there was one over there, there was one,
and there was this one and just said I will
do what your wife or girlfriend won't do. And I thought, well,
if I took a pack of chops and said, can
you cook me this?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, I reckon, that's more. You know, we think that's
going to be some sexual kink, but maybe it's actually
cooking in the eyes and going your hot baby.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
One woman I spoke to she said a lot of
her clients were in their seventies, late seventies. She had
a widower in his eighties and he doesn't want to
be ten years from his last you know, sense being
touched and held and loved and the.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Confusion of relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This is an easy, an easy way of getting what
you need, an easy way.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And some older women for whom that's just you know,
died ten years ago, and you kind of go, well,
do you split up or do you go I still
have this need? And the other one's like, I really don't,
but love you, love our garden, love the dogs.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Can we not be a bit more grown up about
how we how we can outsource many of the things
we need as people?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Someone can take the bins out, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's great to see and I'm glad everything's peachy pie
after the misunderstanding producer meg everything.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So so we have a big hug out there. I
was mortified.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Were you nervous when I was coming? I came in,
I was like, Okay, where is she?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Where?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Where's the one?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I demented that day. She's gorgeous, not at all.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Madame Premiery is tonight nine o'clock on Channel nine and
nine now, Rachel Griffiths, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Thank you so much. Always love you to see it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's been so nice to come in and your view.
I know it's incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Does it bringing people back to the office to go,
oh gee, do I have to leave my little flat
and come here?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I know that's the only reason we're here.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
We should rent out of the view.
Jersey and Amanda gem Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well, we're about to see Rachel Griffiths like we've never
seen her before. She's back in a brand new series
called Madam, based on a woman who finds herself living
in New Zealand running an ethical escort agency.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's happened to all of us, Rachel Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
An ethical escort agency.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Is an organic, is very organic, It's very it's very woke.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
This is this is for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Can you have like a woke profit?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You can try.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
And I think that's what makes this show fun is
there's a woman who's discovered in New Zealand after several
other side hustles have not worked out. And I think
most small businesses in Australia are started by women and
most of them have kids. And it's how do I
get you know, how do I sustain this and have
a work life on my own terms? So she discovers
(00:51):
that this line of business is decriminalized legal in New
Zealand and she thinks, oh that's interesting, goes to check
one out and goes, oh, this is a bit skanky.
I thought it'd be a bit nice. I've given it's
all kosh, it's all above boards, all legit. So she
decides that she's going to have a kind of female
(01:11):
empowered ethical, ethical escort agency.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yes, yeah, And does that make a difference to the
kind of clients that they get? I mean, is it
is it valu added to the business or you're the
only one that cares.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I think she cares.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
She cares about She probably cares about this more than
some of the women that work there. And I think
some of the women in our show actually really value
this kind of change of vibe, you know, particularly things
like she gets rid of the lineup, which is the
meat market of this business, you know, where you just.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Why not familiar with this?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
But what happens? Does that actually happen? I've seen it
in movies. Is that real? I think so? Yeah? Yeah?
And that's for the statu So you walk in its
police lineup and you choose who you want.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do they have like a I've never been into a brothel,
don't look like you're surprised? And do they have like
a meaning thought? Is something at the top? Is it?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Like I didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I went to a collective as part of my research.
I went to a collective and women came to this
collective to talk to me about it, and I was
so slightly nervous about being photographed or seeing not that
I don't trust the media coming out of a brothel
and having to explain in you know, the headliner in
(02:36):
the Daily Man or a worker exactly, I'm researching my show.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But this is a real I mean the whole show.
It's a comedy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
It's a key week comedy, and I think what makes
it fun is usually when this industry is portrayed in
drama particularly, it's kind of gritty and it's it's a
bit skanky, and it's exploitative. And even if it's kind
of looking at the dark side of this from a
kind of hybrid up, well it says it's worthy, but
actually it's something kind of a bit titillating. At the
(03:07):
same time, they're kind of having having having it both ways,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
But this is a very female twist because I think
when we sit around talking about these things sexes and
all of that, or what you were talking about earlier
that I don't think you can talk about about the
various desserts is we are laughing, right when women talk
about sex, we laugh. And yet when we see it
portrayed in these shows. It's it's always so like nasty and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Duk and New Zealand's famous for its comedies so funny,
UIs are.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
So funny, and I think it's I thought were kind
of the same species, you know, but I think we
have a really different sense of humor, and I think
the Aussie humor can say it's a little bit put
the knife in. You know that I was only joking.
If you're upset, it's like we've we we we rip
each other like we're siblings that just want to want
(04:03):
it to hurt a little bit. But the key we's like,
oh sorry, cuz, oh that would be too far, you know,
and you kind of believe like they don't want anyone
kind of hurting at the end of the you know
that taking the piss out of each other.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I warma, I read someone and a sex work and
be more beneficial than a trip to a psychologist.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well this was This is an interesting discussion, I think
because I spoke to people in the industry and some
of them are like, you know, my best clients like
an extremely large man and he just cannot negotiate this
sexual space comfortably in any other way.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And so you know, she does the.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Girlfriend experience and looks at him and makes him feel
good about who who he is. There's other you know,
people with the disability, and you kind of go for
some people.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Would it not make you feel better?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Gives you back some dignity, dignity and you feel sexy
and like somebody looked in your eye and went.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You know you're hot? How good do you feel that?
And in the NDA, this is terrible, this is terrible
that the taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Are paying for sex workers, but we'll pay three hundred
bucks for the psychologist.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I think there'd be some people like that. Go I'll
tell you which one. It makes me feel better.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I think some more realistic about this kind of Theramy's
and the human intimacy and loneliness, Like loneliness is an epidemic.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And it is a disease. It's classified as that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I always I remember the ads in the back
of the newspaper for various brothels around town. I always
read them. And there was one over there, there was one,
and there was this one and just said I will
do what your wife or girlfriend won't do. And I thought, well,
if I took a pack of chops and said, can
you cook me this?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, I reckon, that's more. You know, we think that's
going to be some sexual kink, but maybe it's actually
cooking in the eyes and going your hot baby.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
One woman I spoke to she said a lot of
her clients were in their seventies, late seventies. She had
a widower in his eighties and he doesn't want to
be ten years from his last you know, sense being
touched and held and loved and the.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Confusion of relationships.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This is an easy, an easy way of getting what
you need, an easy way.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And some older women for whom that's just you know,
died ten years ago, and you kind of go, well,
do you split up or do you go I still
have this need? And the other one's like, I really don't,
but love you, love our garden, love the dogs.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Can we not be a bit more grown up about
how we how we can outsource many of the things
we need as people?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Someone can take the bins out, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's great to see and I'm glad everything's peachy pie
after the misunderstanding producer meg everything.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So so we have a big hug out there. I
was mortified.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Were you nervous when I was coming? I came in,
I was like, Okay, where is she?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Where?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Where's the one?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I demented that day. She's gorgeous, not at all.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Madame Premiery is tonight nine o'clock on Channel nine and
nine now, Rachel Griffiths, thank you for joining me.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Thank you so much. Always love you to see it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's been so nice to come in and your view.
I know it's incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Does it bringing people back to the office to go,
oh gee, do I have to leave my little flat
and come here?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I know that's the only reason we're here.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
We should rent out of the view.
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