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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point
seven podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. Well,
it's our podcast and what a podcast it was.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
We put something very interesting to the pub test.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
This is something that I've been talking about on Double
a Chattery, the podcast I do with Anida McGregor. Lying
on your CV? Is it okay? Is it all right
to exaggerate yourself? Is it all right to lie about yourself?
To lie about the jobs you've had in the past
and what those roles were. At what point does it
become untenable? And is it wrong speaking about lying?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
We've got an expert, a human lie detector, if you will,
Steve van Appern, joining us on the show.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
He's worked, he's been a detective and he's worked in
many many murder cases. He's called in to look at
people to see if he thinks they're fibbing. We've got
some questions that we like to ask you, Brendan, So
get ready, what does come down to me?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Smart versus dart again? Footy tips?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, I kind of miss the days when we've got
unreliable football's ex.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Footballers to come in on the show, which was dreadful
as to think.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I can't think of anything worse than trying to round
up ex footballers. And then there is getting darts straight
at me by you, the worst dart thrower in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm still winning the comp between me and professionals. Just
just go to show and we talk about La Boo Boos.
La Boo Boo is the latest cult a small furry toys. Jenna,
our digital guru, has a selection of a collection of
La Boo boos.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
What are they?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
What are they worth? Why?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
People going crazy? We'll find out.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
She's gone to Lulu for La Boo Boos. Enjoy the podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
That the miracle of recording. We have so many requests
for them to do it again.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Mistress Amanda's MS killer Amanda doesn't work alone.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Good friend Groom making the tools of the trade.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
I've been doing a bit the legendary part of Jersey
and Amanda the actress wigs.

Speaker 8 (02:05):
Congratulations, We're ready right now, Jersey and Amanda, you're doing
a great job.

Speaker 9 (02:11):
Anyone your Selfie Giant.

Speaker 10 (02:14):
Good Radio.

Speaker 7 (02:15):
Sorry but it's a tongue tongue twist set and Amanda,
it's shoot timey.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
We're on the air. Top of the moment to you, Amanda, Hello,
how I am doing all right? I'm very well. How
are you today?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, I'm sort of battling a minor cold, I think, Yeah, me,
me too. Yeah, you tour think a lot of people
have got at the moment slightly sore throat it. She
knows runny bits everywhere.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Because what today is. You don't running runny bits everywhere?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You do not.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Today is the twenty second of May.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I know what happened on this day.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's Liam's birthday. Liam's birth Liam is twenty four. So
Jack turned twenty two on Sunday and today Liam terms
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
We certainly know what you're upper up to around us
nine months before these.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Having iva.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Sex.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
But no, but you don't sex it up because I
was such a grateful thing to finally I would to
say the words I never thought i'd say, is that
I've had a baby. It was such a big, big
deal And the only reason I bring it up, apart
from you know, it's a big part of our family,
is that people always will say to me, I remember
where what I was doing.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Don't always say but.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know what I mean. Of course, people say I
remember what I was doing when Liam was born, because
it's a marker of their lives too, that that's twenty
four years from that day.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I remember, I was in the studio we rang You.
I was with Andrew Dennon and mc malloy. Mc molloy
was filling in for you, and I was on the
show afterwards, and we all gathered in the studio to
talk to.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
You about you.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Avenue of the little baby boy who was called Norbert
up until that point.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's funny about his name because we really didn't know
what we're going to call him. And then two weeks
before I went in for a check up and they
said to me, I think you're fully dilated. I thought,
I'm a goddess. I've gone through labor and I didn't
feel a thing.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
This baby's going to fall out of it, and.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
I thought I'd better think of a name. I was
looking at a magazine at a picture of Liam Neeson
in it. I thought, well, Liam's quite a nice name.
And so then, of course, when I was I went
home two weeks later when I was in actual labor,
and eighteen hours later on I dilated two centimeters. I
realized how foolish I'd been thinking I'd been fully dilated.
And when Liam was born and the nurse said, well,

(04:23):
what's his name? I said, I don't know, maybe we're
thinking of Lim. I really didn't know. And she went
out the back and did a nice calligraphy thing with
Liam and put on the crew. But I thought, well,
that has to be his name. Now, once it's in calligraphy,
someone's written it out in texter, that's their name.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, Happy birthday, Laber, birthday Liam.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I don't believe he's twenty four.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, he's going to be a trained physiotherapist at the
end of the year's doing a master's in physiotherapy because
it works with Brown Rugby as a physio therapy student there.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And also wouldn't be uncool for me because I sprained
my ankle a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I rolled.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It wouldn't be uncool if I just you know, when
I saw Lamb, I said, hey, mate, ankle's a bit No,
not at all.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Why would band over your face? I don't know, use him,
use him, that's what he's there for.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Happy birthday, Liam. Action packed showed today, Gmy rise not here.
He's having a day already.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, Jemi Ri's not here, but you know who is
coming in and that's Steve van Apron the human light detector.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
We've asked you to submit questions you'd like to ask
of Jonesy while the human light detector zones in on him.
We've got some interesting ones coming up.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, Well, do I have to wear some sort of
hat like a colander as I.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Know, the tin hat? I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think he just looks at your face.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I think Instagram makes its return as well. We can't
do anything to we do the Magnificence.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Six question number one, which Disney Princess loses her shoe at.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
A ball gem Nation.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
We have for you the Magnificent seven. There are seven questions.
Can you go all the way and answer all seven
questions correctly? If you do that, a man will say, we're.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
In for a couple of more days of rain. Can
you believe it did just that footage yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
In Tarima, Mate Paul Stanley's house got flooded again.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Oh did you see the footage of people being saved
from their roofs? People losing their cattle, trying to rescue
their pets.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's just absolutely heartbreak.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
And did just see that other story down south heading
towards Mudgie. We're in drought.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Welcome to Australia.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Someone should write a poem about this. Join it'd be good.
Melanie's join us.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Hello, Melanie, Hey, how are you?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
We're very well, Melanie.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
He's question number one of the Magnificent Seven, Which Disney
princess loses her shoe at a ball?

Speaker 11 (06:27):
Cinderella?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Cinderella, that's the one.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Which empire was ruled by Julius, Caesar, Augustus and Nero.

Speaker 9 (06:35):
The Roman Empire.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Now we've set all the men off. They just stopped
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's a certain demographic. I'd say between twenty eight and.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Thirty eight, when they get out of their ice baths,
they'll be thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
To see doctor Carlson. There are coln the ice barts.
Everyone's wasting their time.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I know. But if it makes you feel better, if
it's a mental health placebo show for it, Let's play
lyrical assassin. Now, how does this go again?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
We quote the lyrics from a song.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Okay, we just say say the fashion.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
And Melanie has to work out where they're from. Okay,
you do it, Melanie, don't let go. You got the
music in you. One dance left this world is going
to pull through.

Speaker 11 (07:17):
You've got the music in you.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
What's the song?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Song? You've got a reason why?

Speaker 5 (07:23):
You've got the.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Music in you?

Speaker 11 (07:24):
Oh my god, I know it, I know it.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
We need the name, Melanie. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Warren's in Castle Hill High, Warren.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Let me have a go.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
You have a crack.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Don't let go.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You've got the music in you. One dance left this
world is going to pull through. Don't give up.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
You've got a reason to live.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
The song.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I could sing the entire song and people wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Know it's a great song.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well that's question number three Lyrical Assassin.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Podcast.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Where into the magnificence to.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Question number three? We're playing Lyrical Assassin. Hello Barbara in.

Speaker 9 (08:05):
D y Hi mana, how are you going?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Very well?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Have a listen to these lyrics. Don't let go, You've
got the music in you. One dance left this world
is gonna pull through. Don't give up. You've got a
reason to live. Do you know what the song is?

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (08:19):
You get what you give by the new rally.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Call et cetera.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Question number four for you, what country has the most
pyramids in the world. This is a multiple choice, Barbara.
Is it a Egypt, B, the Sudan, C. Mexico. This
could be a little bit of a tricky one.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
By the way, Sudan.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Wow, it is Sudan.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
You've got a Manda midsip of lembs.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
It has over two hundred and twenty.

Speaker 9 (08:50):
How I had my lempsick? Yes, sir, I know how
you feel.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
That's good start, isn't it the lemsip help you? Barbara?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, okay, remember during the pandemic you couldn't get lemsip.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
For love nor money because everyone and then Elton John.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Was coming out here was suggesting that maybe he could
bring some lemsips over, you know a.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Lot of other things.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, that's very true.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I'm happy to go there, Barbara anytime.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Question five, True or false? Kryptonite is the hardest natural
substance on Earth? Is that true or false? Barbara?

Speaker 12 (09:19):
Oh, well, let's say it's or kryptonite the hardest service.

Speaker 9 (09:25):
I'll say I'll say true.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
No, sorry, Nixon Canley Vale, Hello on.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Nied It's a good reason for that, Nick.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Kryptonized the hardest natural substance on Earth? Is that true
or false?

Speaker 9 (09:38):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Must be false?

Speaker 3 (09:39):
And do you know why it's false?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
No? Well, yes it's false because Kryptonite doesn't exist. It's fictitious.
It's a material that's used in the DC comics, that
Superman's nemesis. So it's not real.

Speaker 9 (09:54):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Do you need some.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Question six for you?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Great Expectations and Oliver Twist are books by which author? Nickum?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
There you go on it's.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Not Leonne Great Expectations Oliver Twist? Who wrote those?

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Classic?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Nick? Dom is in Winston Hill.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Do you know who wrote Great Expectations? And Oliver Twist? Dom?

Speaker 12 (10:23):
I do it with Charles you think it was?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Who is playing against the Bulldogs tonight at a Core Stadium, Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
You've done it?

Speaker 13 (10:33):
You know it?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
All money?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Oh, Dom, So you've done it.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Job Nick wishes he was dopping today graduations. My man,
you've won the jam package all coming away a Sheraton
Grand Sydney Hyde Park, famous Sunday seafood buffet, including a
beverage package for two.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
You will love it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
One hundred and fifty dollars to spend the flowers for
everyone shop Sydney's precious flowers and gifts for flowers for everyone,
dot com dot and Jones Gnomadic Coach, jews be the Calorie,
and some state of pencils.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I say, Dom, if that's your real name, You got
anything to add.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
To this other than that's a great price.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
It's a nice price. If I could adapt a bit
of glen Ridge there.

Speaker 13 (11:12):
Jonesy and Amanda Podcast.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
The Legendary Bot Jonesie, Amanda the Actress.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I'm going to build a golden dome above the station.
Do it?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
What will it protect us from a lot of our
thoughts leaking out?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
If you want these thoughts, you can have them.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
I'm combing through the germ of that guy big book
of musical facts.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Well and do you well?

Speaker 11 (11:38):
Well?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Well, on this day in two thousand and one, Amanda
Keller gave birth to a bouncing baby boy, weighing in
at five.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
We remember that, you remember it.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I think I was.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
There, weighing in at five pounds and two ounces, A
small little thing, Liam Rhodes came into the world. I
remember we're working over Triple Lamb at the time, and
I knew your journey with I IVF, and you told
me that you were pregnant with Liam, and because you
knew I was good with the secret.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, and you were so good with the secret. The
next day you said, where were you yesterday? I'd been
to have some test, You said, where were you? Sicking
the gats you'd forgotten this enormous news en after years
of ivy, if something had finally stuck.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Not in your head, though, But I remember when you
gave birth to Lim and I was so happy, and
everyone was so happy for you. And we're in the
studio and Andrew Denton rang you to see how you
were going.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
You remember this. We all feel the same. We feel
the same. I had a baby done.

Speaker 12 (12:38):
It wasn't here after all.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
With the baby, we knew you had it in.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
You had it in here. Now look at him, twenty four.
He's going to style, he's tall, he's.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
He's such a great person. The thing is Liam, Jack's
I'm very conflicted. Jack's birthday was on Sunday, and so
you know, we didn't make a big gush of it.

Speaker 8 (12:59):
And I'm going oh to in the German ac lim
Firth and you were you were upset, well, you were
you agonized over the fact that you didn't post anything
for jem I didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I saw him all day and so I didn't. I
forgot about it. So yes, it is conflicting. But the
twenty four years and the radio station gave out little
onesies for people who had babies on the same day,
and people come up to me all the time, and
so I've still got more onesie. It was a trigger
for a lot of people to remember what they were
doing on that day too. So it's twenty four years
ago and if I play this song, oh, You're going

(13:30):
to make me cry.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
You are so going to go go the blog Happy birthday, mate.
Oh stop it. It's too late, too late.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Once't you start, Creed, you can't stop it, gem go
one of one point seven. Hello there, it's Jonesy to
money to held that together quite well, Creed with arms
wide open?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Now what I'm trying to hold it together because there's
a lot going on in my life and if I
start balling, I'll lose it.

Speaker 8 (13:55):
So that song it's mean to play well. I put
it on dedication A lovely her backstory. I used to
hate that song well when we were I but I'm.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Just going to read a nickelback.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, Stu hated it and then the morning Lean was
born or listener dedicated it.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, I just heard the lyrics.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
It's beautiful, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I've seen it so differently ever since. I've got a
big lump in my throat.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
But also, you know, you don't have to worry about
posting a tribute on the on your social I didn't
do it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
For Jack on Sunday, so I'm conflicted. I have to
ignore them all day.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
You've got and played a song for him, Jack's can
and where's my song?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I want?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So you know the song triple and played for Jack
when he was born, as when I was working with
Migie Robinson Peter Burner.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
She's got the Jack.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
That'll make you cry for rather than Yes, it's twenty
to seven. You know, being a parent is fraud. And
I was just thinking about Elena Dokic. Demir has passed
away and at the age of sixty seven, and they
went on speaking terms. He left the country, went away.
I don't speak ill of the dead, but you know.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
But how conflictioned is Father of the Year awards?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
No it's not. And she's written about her struggle with
the emotional and physical abuse. She copped his at his side,
And as she said here, it's never easy losing a
parent and a father, even if you're estranged from them.
The loss of an a strange parent comes with a
difficult and complicated grief. So whether you see them as

(15:26):
your traditional appropriate guardian or not, there's a lot of
mixed emotions she'll be feeling right now, as she says.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
And we spoke to her only just last year with
her book, and I asked, did she actually receive an
apology from Demir?

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Have you ever had an apology from your father?

Speaker 9 (15:45):
No, I haven't. I haven't. I've tried to reconcile with
him at one stage years and years ago, but it's
not possible. I think ultimately, no matter what you go through,
I think with your family or your parents, you kind
of feel like maybe you can get to a stage
where things can change and you can have a relationship.

(16:07):
But no, I jolt. I think when someone isn't even
able to say sorry, or when they actually think that
they did everything right and in fact, in his words,
he will do it all over again, that's where you
draw the line, Especially as you get older, you need
to get their toxicity out of your life.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
She's a very impressive woman.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Your Landa Docky, Absolutely, and she's been so vulnerable and
so open in talking about her relationship with him, and
the post she did yesterday about him passing was no different.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, it was very from her perspective. It's about letting go.
When you're a parent, you know you don't have all
the answers, do well.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
We assume that parents have their children's best interests at heart,
don't we. That's it's horrific to hear that's not always
the case.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Let's get on down to the judgment arms contest and
today lying on your resume? Does it pass the pub
test out number? By the way, thirteen fifty five twenty
two if you'd like to join in. And it's just
because of a chat that you had in your podcast
A Chattery which drops today.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
That's right, Anita McGregor and I do a podcast and
it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Anita works at a university.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
She runs a department of forensic psychology and often has
to mark work and employ people and evaluate students. Is
it okay to lie? That's what we're wondering. Do you
lie on your CV? Apparently seventy percent of workers confess
that they've lied on their resumes. Now, that may be
a slight exaggeration as to how many people are in

(17:32):
the team that you managed, or how long you work somewhere,
or it could be a big lie as to what
your qualifications are. There's a very gray area between begging
yourself up and actually lying. And if you get the
job and prove yourself doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Embellish a little bit. You're not going to say that
you're stealing from the company.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
And Anita made a good point about Robert Patterson.

Speaker 14 (17:58):
Robert Pattinson, he was the guy at Twilight. He said
that he went to Oxford to get the role of
Cedric Degree in the Harry Potter films, and you know
obviously hadn't done that, So I mean it's it's kind
of like, is it ballsy or is it just see
how as an actor it's probably not as bad.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
If you said you went to Oxford and you're an
English teacher, that has bigger implications.

Speaker 14 (18:21):
Yes, especially if you're trying to go and mark your
student's essays.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
That wasn't very good. There is that if you're if
you're a doctor or a lawyer.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Or an engineer.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
An engineer maybe, but you know this is the stuff
a folklore of you know the guy from Twilight he faked.
He said he went to Oxford to look how successfully is.
Isn't that funny? But there's a flip side to that,
and some people have gone to jail years after for
lying about their results early on, and when they end
up being CEOs, they go, hang on a minute, you've
lied back here and you're responsible. Back here.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
I remember you told me that you had a degree
in nickelback.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Don't have well, my degree was actually in Leo Sayer.
Lying on your CV does it pass the pub test?

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Jem jam Na said.

Speaker 10 (19:10):
God, right now, crazy now your windows, stick your head
on a jel.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Down to the Jonesy, no matter of arms for the
pub test today. Lying on your CV? Does that pass
the pub test? This was brought to light in your
podcast Double a Chattery which drops today.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Your friend Anita McGregor, who is a clinical psychologist, forensic psychology,
forensic psychologist. So she went to university, she did the training.
She didn't just make that up.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
No, but seventy percent of workers confess that they've lied
on their resumes. There's a fine line between overselling yourself.
Is that just playing the game or does it creep
into lyne And does it matter if you can do
the job at the end of the day, which you're
competing as other people who have proper qualifications?

Speaker 15 (20:01):
Is it fair?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
How do you feel lying on your resume or your CV?
Does it past the pub test?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
No, it doesn't pass the pub test.

Speaker 11 (20:08):
If you stall your TV, you go for a job
and oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:11):
Great, I've got the job.

Speaker 11 (20:12):
How much to afford you?

Speaker 9 (20:13):
Look, you turn up that job and you can't do it,
so tag on your face.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Lying on the CV it's a no go. I don't
want to experience.

Speaker 11 (20:21):
You should lie what you can do, but you should.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Be able to embellish what you actually can do and
hopefully you prove yourself.

Speaker 9 (20:29):
Absolutely not, no way. Well, if you lie on your
CV and you're getting to your job and you can't
do your job and you're going to look.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Like a fall, everybody does it.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
You know.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
I wouldn't say lie, but you.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Know, pump yourself up a bit, just you know, a
little bit of confidence doesn't hurt everybody, does it.

Speaker 9 (20:46):
I don't think it's a problem.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
No, because it will come back to bite you.

Speaker 12 (20:49):
Later on.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's true you said you had a degree in culture.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I do.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I do have that degree, you can I see it.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
And I've got a master's in Barry Manila. Well, I
was the only one in the course. It might surprise
you to hear that.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Was done by Barry Manelow himself. Sham notion podcast. I
do apologize. I lied earlier before because I.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Was thinking that maybe the rains would go away a
little bit, you know, That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, are you lied because you don't even check the weather?
It's going to rain again tomorrow. Our next guest is
a human lie detector. His name is Steve van Apron.
He's a world renowned specialist in human behavior, in deception,
detection and analyzing a person's body language, which allows him
to read people like a book that he's often used
to help in homicide cases. Let's assume Jonesy hasn't murdered anybody,

(21:40):
but Steve, hello and welcome.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Thank you, Amanda. This is exactly why I have my friends.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, how socially does it go? Are you treated by
your friends like psychic? Say?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
You think you read too much into me, therefore we
can't socialize.

Speaker 16 (21:53):
Well, my golfing partners know better to lie to me
about the scores, that's for sure. But look, when I
was a detect for fourteen years, and back in those days,
what really amazed me is that some of the detectives
were not very good at reading body language and detecting deception.
So I was always interested in psychological profiling.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
So I went over to the FBI.

Speaker 16 (22:14):
But the more time I spent with their behavioral analysis,
you know, the more interested I becoming cognitive and behavioral anything.
I wanted to know why some people made really good
liars and others were absolutely terrible, and.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
What is the difference? So some people are better at it?

Speaker 16 (22:26):
Well, yeah, look, the more complex the lie, it takes
a lot of cognitive processing. So if you're fabricating, creating
a false memory, or embellishing, for every one lie you tell,
you have to invent two or three to protect yourself
from the first one. And I don't care how well
prepared you are, you can't possibly pre anticipate every likely
question that I could ask you, what.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Do you mean? It was an example of that.

Speaker 16 (22:48):
Well, let's say I'm interviewing you for like a homicide,
and the pathologists established a time of death at seven
pm last night and you were seen in the locality,
I'd ask you what you did from saying four to
ten and you might say went out. And these were
the questions questions of the tools of my trade. But
more importantly, it's not necessarily the questions, it's how you

(23:09):
react to the questions. So typically give you a real
quick example I was doing. I was training profilos in
Dubai for Emirates and these guys are really switched on
and these weapons they do. It's amazing what you can
get me using weapons. But anyway, one of the they
wanted me to put some questions together to work out
with or not people may have been potential terrorists. So

(23:31):
one of the questions I put together for them is
have you do you have any terrorist associations? And they
looked at me and they said, why on earth would
a terrorists admit to that? I said, it's got nothing
to do with the question, but everything to do with
their reaction. Truth will people take ownership, whereas deceptive people
create distance, disassociation and separation in language. So many cases,

(23:51):
I've worked on eighty nine homicide cases, and sometimes what
I look for is whether or not the person is
taking ownership or creating distance. You know, Bill Clinton, I
did not have sexual relations with that woman. Often some
police departments will get me to look at a plea,
you know, media plea for the return of their loved one,
and there's a case here, kayjh Abrams, I don't know

(24:14):
if you remember that one, and the mother went there
with her de facto boyfriend, and as soon as I
saw it, I knew that they were involved because he
turned around and he said she was such a wonderful child.
When when he said, was that's past tense. Trust me,
if you've ever spoken to a parent who's had their
child abducted, they will never ever talk in past tense.

(24:34):
Why because their expectation is their child will be returned
to life safe and well. So it's almost like I
had given up. So getting back to the homicides, I'd
ask you, you know, where did you go?

Speaker 6 (24:45):
I went out?

Speaker 16 (24:46):
Where did you go restaurant? What was the name of
the restaurant? Have you been there before? What time did
you leave, What was your route it took to get there,
what time did you arrive? What was on the menu?
Have you been there before? That's a very interesting question.
Because if they have and they were involved in the
murder another place, they can draw from memory that they've
been there before, So then we have to take them
beyond that. So you may be able to think of

(25:07):
a lot, but do you sound believable and credible? And
sooner or later your story will fall apart at some
stage just.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Listening to that must not confessed to something I haven't done.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
These are the questions that Amanda asked about me on
a Monday.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
What did you do? What did you get up to?
It said, what are your cop How many questions are
you going to ask?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, we have some questions here, Brendan that our audience
has asked that I ask you, and Steve will observe
you right and let us know whether he thinks you're
telling the truth or not.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Okay, well I'll put my truthful face on. Will take
a break or come?

Speaker 6 (25:39):
You should be very worried?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Should so? I don't know what the questions are?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Do you know what mushroom looks like?

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Ohious?

Speaker 13 (25:49):
Jonesy and Amanda in the morning on Gold one one
point seven.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Well, this is good. We've joined in the studio by
Steve Van Appron.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Poker faces out on stand, which I'm looking looking forward
to seeing.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
That's such a great, great show.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
But Steve has come along here today and give us
the ins and outs of detecting is a human lie detected?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
He is, and he's worked with police departments and homicide
teams and all kinds of things for a number of years.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
We're going to put his skill.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Set to looking at you, Brendan as I ask you
some questions, why to me as you put your hand
up and said you'd do it when you were tired
after a meeting one day.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
I think I was paying attention.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I know, so Steve, I think that Jonesy has I
don't think he can play poker because I think he
has such a gurning face that he rubs his eyes,
he mimics and move I think I can.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Tell when I often find that people.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's a tell when someone you know, how you going,
and they go, oh, I'm great, they touch their face.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Is that really is town?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
What is?

Speaker 16 (26:47):
We look for conflict or contradiction between what a person's
saying and what their body language is stating. So there
are more neural connections between the hand and the face
than any other part of the body. So usually it's
what we call a masking, consummer or blocking behavior. So
psychologically our hand goes up to our mouth to block
those false words really yeah, because we feel uncomfortable about it.

(27:08):
But at the last moment will be a deflection, like
a nose tarch to eye rub or something. If you've
got a decent itch, you give it a scratch as
opposed to just a cursory touch. So also, behavior psychologists
believe it's a way of offset and the anxiety of
being associated with knowing that they're telling a lot.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Because I saw the boss the other day and I said,
has the show going? He said, oh, it's so good you.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Guys face you're here forever.

Speaker 11 (27:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (27:32):
But the FBI teacher agents to baseline or benchmark, then
look for deviations from that. So if you've got somebody
who always does that and then you ask a question,
they do it again, that tells me nothing what we
look for. Does the question become the threatening stimulus which
engages a change in behavior, and they're evasive, missive, dismissive,
side step the issue, don't answer the question. I'm sure
you both have interviewed politicians and they'll ask you a

(27:53):
question and they'll just deflect. Good journalists go back and
ask the same question again because there's usually a pretty
good read. And when those red flags are there, and
that is because they feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
With a question, be as just ask you this before
we start. Are women better at detecting lies than men?

Speaker 16 (28:09):
Not only are they better at detecting lies, they're better
at reading body language because you have more evaluation centers
in your brain. So there was a study and they
found that women make better lies because there's less response latency,
arms and ours, and they can include more content, information, structure,
and detail. So sometimes I get people on stage and

(28:30):
I'll say, look, tell me you know a lie whatever,
And what will happen is often women will not only
create a false memory that never existed, they'll also create
a false conversation with someone that never existed. So it's
like lying twice within the one lie, whereas men's lies
are very basic, like you know I'm running late, or
you know no, your bum doesn't look bigger than well.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
That's question one.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Well, Steve, I said, what do I do? Just do
I just act?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'm going to ask the question, ask a question.

Speaker 16 (28:58):
Now, bear in mind I can only see the up
your head over this concerpt, You're going to drop the desk.

Speaker 10 (29:03):
Good.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I just like playing with the d all right, Brendan
his question, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Do I look at Amanda or you?

Speaker 6 (29:10):
I was just looking at a man.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
He's looking awkward already. Brendan. His question one, This is
from a listener. When you say people have adelaide legs,
what do you really mean.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
They're athletic legs?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Yeah, okay, I have a problem with that.

Speaker 16 (29:24):
When somebody has a doubt, or they're not serious about something,
or they may not actually believe what they're saying, there'll
be a number of things that happened. The shoulder, shrug,
the eyes and hands usually up towards this, which is
indicative of doubt or uncertainty.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
So I'm not too sure on that.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
So he's saying, lie, I.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Think when you're athletic, you don't When you say adelaide,
you don't mean athletic.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean athletic.

Speaker 16 (29:48):
Okay, it depends on where your definitions.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
That buzzy coming from.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
All right, here's another one. Brendan, do you think that
I'm a good driver?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
No?

Speaker 16 (30:01):
Yeah, Look what I saw then was his body language
matched what he was saying. So he shook his head
in the nugget while saying no.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
So, yeah, I believe him.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Oh that's horrendous. Do you think you're superior to the
women who work here?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
No, of course not.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yeah, I actually believe that.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Really, yeah, do you believe that he does or does?

Speaker 4 (30:24):
No?

Speaker 6 (30:24):
No, I believe he's telling the truth.

Speaker 16 (30:26):
And the reason why was sometimes I look for tonal
inflections and changes.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
That was very direct.

Speaker 16 (30:32):
Usually truthful people will answer the question very clearly, very succinctly,
and very directly, whereas deceptive people will often use an objection,
why would I do something like that?

Speaker 6 (30:41):
I'm not that sort of person. But he answered the
question very directly.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Here's another one. Would you be a better host of
Sunrise and Matt Shirvington?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Of course I would.

Speaker 16 (30:50):
Now this is interesting, right because this is an opinion question.
So a lie by definition, is where somebody wilfully misleads
somebody knowing that what they're saying is factually incorrect. But
you're asking him a question that calls for his subjective opinion.
So can your opinion be wrong or right?

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Is the question?

Speaker 6 (31:07):
So yeah, look, he probably believes that's the case.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
He doesn't make it a line's quagging in his boots
this morning.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Right, here's one. A lot of people have asked me
to ask you have you had a crush on me
for twenty years?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Of course I have rubbing his face?

Speaker 16 (31:27):
So what was interesting about that? It's quite an animated response.
And there was hand to face masking, concealment blocking behaviors,
and there was what I call the ant he'll I
remember watching Shane Warn being interviewed once and the question
has become a litt bit uncomfortable in the slight shift in.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
The chair, a slight shrivel in the chair.

Speaker 16 (31:45):
So usually if a question makes someone feel uncomfortable, there
will be some sign. In your case, it was had
to face moving and.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
He's uncomfortable with that.

Speaker 16 (31:54):
And also what we know through science is when a
person lies there, blink rate increases six to eightfold after
the livery of the deception, not necessarily during it. And
that makes sense because you're looking at the interview and
you're thinking, does he or she believe this or are
they buying this story?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
So can you train yourself not to have those traits?
Can you train yourself not to look like you're lying?

Speaker 16 (32:15):
Yeah, look, I interviewed a clinically diagnosed psychopath. And a
lot of people say, I think psychopathy is one of
the most misunderstood words in the English language. A lot
of people think psychopaths people who go out and kill,
not necessarily guarantee you.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Both of you, at some stage in your.

Speaker 16 (32:30):
Career have worked with somebody whose psychopathic behaviors. A psychopath,
by definition, is somebody who is recklessly oblivious to the
physical or emotional harm they cause somebody. So if you
and I applying for a job, I'll destroy you, but
I'll get the job. I don't care what happens to you,
but I get it. And there's a great study done
in the US and they found that even psychopaths are

(32:51):
not very good lies. The difference is you or I
may feel guilty about if we've done something wrong with
some minor misdemeanor, whereas they don't. They're more concerned about
being apprehended for their crime. But the tells are pretty
much the same. So everything from and usually one of
the things I always look for is breaking into three parts, verbal, nonverbal,
and paralinguistic. Parallinguistic is tone, pitch, voice, modulation of response, latency.

(33:17):
When you felt uncomfortable, your tone changed, and usually there's
a slight tunnel change towards the end of the sentence.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Right, can I ask a man of a question.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh don't I don't want you to.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Did you enjoy me.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
In a pair of speedos when I came onto the
set of the living Room?

Speaker 16 (33:31):
No, Actually, I believe one hundred percent that's true. And
the reason why is Professor Paul Ekman. Professor Paul Ekman
did a lot of research into micro expressions. Micro expression
takes place within one twenty five to one one hundredth.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Of a second.

Speaker 16 (33:46):
And you just showed the facial expression of shock and horror,
so your body language reflected your exact answer.

Speaker 10 (33:55):
Well, have you.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Seen the footage? Steam? Every I would agree that was fascinating.
Thank you for joining us, Steve.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Season two of Poker Faces out now on stand Steve,
Steve Van Apper and thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 13 (34:07):
Thanks Steve, Jonesy and Amanda Podcast.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Brendon and Evanda and you're on the same show.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
Let's start wearing lipsticks.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Fantastic, so fascinating. We've been talking to Steve van Apprin.
He is a human light detector. He's worked with homicide detectives,
homicide teams, and he just looks at people and looks
at their behavior and looks at how they answer questions.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
You can tell whether people are lying or not.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
He's asking him some questions about cases has just been happening,
and I can't say them now.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
WHOA fascinating? He's absolutely fascinating. We asked him some interesting things.
I was horrified when you asked him a question. I thought,
what's this going to be?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Did you enjoy me in a pair of speedos when
I came onto the set of the living Room?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
No?

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Actually, I believe one hundred percent that's true.

Speaker 16 (34:58):
And the reason why is Professor Paul. Professor Paul Ekman did.

Speaker 6 (35:04):
A lot of research into micro expressions.

Speaker 16 (35:06):
Micro expression takes place within one twenty five to one
one hundreds of a second, and you just showed the
facial expression of shock and horror.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
A whole lot of micro was going on.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
I'm sure about that last.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, I'm where do you get.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Moose pings from?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well coming up, you better pad up,
Brendan Patrick, micros up because you're going to have some
darts shown at you with smart versus dart.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I forgot about that. Well, it's round twelve, she writes.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Round twelve of the NRL. And then you were experimenting
with who's a better tipper, the experts or the universe.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
The experts whose knowledge and.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Insider information I representing the universe. Just throw darts at Jonesy.
He holds ping pong bats, representing the team. Where they land.
We call this smart versus Dart. Now, last round, Smart
got three out of eight, Dart got five out of eight.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm winning.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Dart is winning the whole year five to four. It
just goes to show you don't need any knowledge. Sure,
Now we just had a panic because you haven't got
your leg pads on. And just then you put your
cricket box in. So I'm nervous for you.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Take it hard as a.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Rock and now put it in.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So you were anxious about your new driving, Miss Daisy Glass.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Look at these clubs.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
They're four hundred and twenty dollars waterproof gortex glass.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You knew this was Thursday, and they.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Looked stylish and they're so comfortable.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Well, let's get on with it because we've got actually
there's one, two, three, four, five regular rounds was a
state of origin I'll also be throwing darts to you
to pick state of origin of course.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Okay, back up, Brendons to Brian for coming in filling
in for Bryan.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Brian in for Ryan. Good work mate, Thanks.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
We've added a b and getting on with it.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Coming in and doing this, Brian, you could have said, no, okay.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Now, I'm just anxious over here. Let me just move
this across the screen. So you stand in front of
the screen, and here comes the first round.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Bulldogs versus Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Experts have picked the bulldogs.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Oh you close your helmet.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Oh wow, okay, experts of picked bulldogs.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
What will I pick.

Speaker 15 (37:16):
That?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh right in the face. Okay, move them around a
little bit. That hit a dolphin?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Eels versus manly. The experts have picked manly. What will
my darts say?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Manly?

Speaker 4 (37:34):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Panthers versus Knights. Panthers have been selected. Let's see which
ones I'm going to get?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Ready right into you?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Oh did that hit?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Okay, ready, don't move them too much. No, that got
your new glove. Sorry, everybody. Knights versus Panthers, what's.

Speaker 17 (37:53):
Going to happen?

Speaker 3 (37:54):
That went into your head?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
That got a panther? Roosters versus sharks.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Brenda, I'm going for the growing.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Into what We'll go roosters when I can aim when
I need to.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
And warriors and the raiders.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Warriors have been picked by the experts right off your head.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Okay, that got into a warrior.

Speaker 13 (38:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Hold, we've got two balloons here. One is marone and
one is blue. This is for state of origin. No, okay,
you want to move them around a bit. Okay, let's
see what happens. Sorry, I'm just trying to hit Jonesy's
bosom balloons. Oh no, I've picked queens Land. I've picked

(38:42):
Queen's Land. Well, the universe speaks through me. I'm channeling
and I'm sorry. Well that was exhausting. And he Glove's okay, Okay,
thank you, Amanda.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Brendan, You're welcome. Till next week.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Till next week we will put all those results because
I know a lot of.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
People bet on what I'm doing here. I'm like, who
was the name.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Of the octopus that could pick the World Cup? Unlike
that octopus? All the results all be on our.

Speaker 17 (39:06):
Socials make podcasts free instance, and Amanda's here we go
ten questions sixty seconds on the clock you can pass
if you don't know an answer, we'll come back to
that question of time permits.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
You get all the questions right, Happy days one thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
You could make it two thousand dollars by answering a
bonus question, but it's double or nothing.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Liz is in Hearstville.

Speaker 9 (39:34):
Hello, Liz, Hello, Jonesy, Hello, Hello Amanda.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
We're trying to give this money away. Are you feeling
lucky Liz?

Speaker 9 (39:43):
I'm lucky, Liz.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Hotally luckily Liz.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Let's see what we can do for you.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Good idea of that ten questions sixty seconds? Say no
if you're not sure, because we usually have time to
come back. Okay, lucky Liz, Okay, thank you, good luck.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Question number one? What's the main ingredient in pumpkins?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Question two? What spiky backed animal is on our five
cent coins?

Speaker 9 (40:06):
Kid now?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Question three?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
How many Miller liters are in Alita?

Speaker 15 (40:11):
It's alim?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Question four.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Mary Fowler is known for playing which sport soccer quession five?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
True or false?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Scooby Doo's real name is Scubat.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
False It's true, it's Scuba.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
It sounds stupid, but Scuoby's real name does sound like
stupid Scubat.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Is actually Scuba as Shaggy actually says it. Dude, who's
going to know that when you started so well, sorry.

Speaker 9 (40:41):
That's okay, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Cis you had me at le boo boo. I like
just saying the word l booboo.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well, I didn't know what a la boo boo was,
but I'm hearing it more and more, and not just
from Jenna who works with us. The La Booboo is
a character created in twenty fifteen by a Hong Kong
born artist, an illustrator, and these have just taken the
world by storm to the point where they're so popular
in the UK. They're plush toys that the sale of
these plush toys have created a lot of tension, a

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lot of aggression and violence in shops, to the point,
as I said, where one particular chain is saying we
are not going to stock them anymore really because we
do not want our customers put at risk.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
How is that?

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Well, let's work out, first of all, what a La
booboo is, Jenna High, You've buy three.

Speaker 15 (41:28):
Three in but I've got fourteen at home.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
What do they look like?

Speaker 15 (41:31):
Okay? So I've got them here and they come. So
these are three different sets, so one from three different
sets look identical. Yeah, well you hold it upset. First,
the first set, that's the first set, is the Macron set.
So I've got Toffee here. Toffee is like a toffee
colored one and standing up. Then I've got Zoo Zoo
from the Have a Seat range, and then thirdly I've

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got the super rare one from the Big Into Energy range,
which is the latest range.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Of La Booboos. What's that's name?

Speaker 15 (42:00):
It doesn't have a name. It's a secret one, and
well how'd you get that? So it's one in seventy
one boxes is a secret one, and I was lucky
enough to get one of the secret ones.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
And so when you buy them, you don't know what
kind you're getting. It's like a lucky dip.

Speaker 15 (42:14):
They're called blind boxes, so they're available from PopMart, and
everything at PopMart is essentially a blind box, so you
don't know what you're going to get until you open it.
So that's why unboxing videos are so popular.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
So you could get three of the same one.

Speaker 15 (42:27):
Yeah, yeah, so I've from the Macaron range, I've got
two of the same and Why do you like them?
They're just so cute, you know, and it's just the
fun of lining up with everyone too.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
How long you've worked in it? For now?

Speaker 15 (42:40):
I don't work in it. I've worked her seven years.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
What are you trying to say, Brendan?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
What does your I'm intrigued by this though, as to
what There'll be lots of cute little things.

Speaker 15 (42:52):
No, I've only got two of them and they're outdated.

Speaker 9 (42:55):
Now.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
These on your bed?

Speaker 15 (42:56):
No, the squish mellows, yes, but these aren't. These are
on my windows.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Don't make her sound a little bit deranged?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
Are you single still?

Speaker 15 (43:03):
Or yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Jenna can ask you.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Lots of these kind of toys come and go. Why
have these ones taken the world by storm? Why are
these ones getting parents to queue up? One of these
stories here is that they were queuing up till one am,
waiting for nine hours to get some.

Speaker 15 (43:19):
So that's especially this latest range, which is the big
Into Energy range, which a lot of people are lining
up for. They're just popular. It all originated essentially from
Black Pink and the singer from Black Pink, Lisa. She
was also on the White Lotus.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Oh yes, so she.

Speaker 15 (43:36):
Has over one hundred million followers, and she really was
the one who started this like popularity.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Around because she bought ones that I like it, yes,
and she's a.

Speaker 15 (43:45):
Big fan of La Booboo, so she puts them on
her bags and everything, and since then it kind of
blew up because it originated in twenty fifteen, but it
wasn't until the collaboration between PopMart and La Booboo in
twenty nineteen that it blew up.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
So my eyes are stundyed to try out now.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I find it fascinating.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
And they're saying that people are attaching them to their
backpacks and things in cages.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
So they don't get stolen.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
There's cues, there's cues over overseas.

Speaker 9 (44:11):
Trying.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
There's little kids getting lost in cues for grown people
like yourself.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
And I saw someone getting a religious leader to bless one.

Speaker 15 (44:21):
Yes, but you also have to be careful because you
have to make sure that you get a legit one
because the fake ones are called lafu foos, and you
don't want a lafu fu So you see this QR
code on the back of the my ones, so you
you use that code in China, it's Chinese.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
If it's legit, if it doesn't say it's a labuobu.
It could be a laf fu foo.

Speaker 15 (44:46):
Yeah, and you don't want a leaffu foo.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
There's much there's so many questions in a single. By
the way, Well, Jenna, thank you, there's no shame. Come on, Brendan,
Well do you like stuff?

Speaker 10 (45:01):
This is her.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
This is Jenna's version of you going on eBay and
you know, looking for dumb stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
There, you know, I would imagine I remember years ago,
my daughter when she was younger, one of a Disney
princess or Barbie Disney princess carriage, you know, like a
horse and carriage thing for her Barbie, and you couldn't
get him for love or money. And my wife had
to bring my father in law, her father in more

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woman bar who then had to drive to Brisbane to
pick it up.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I've got baku gun that I got a friend in
Gosford to buy and then I arranged to get that
brought to Sydney. This is the stuff you've do in
your parents when you buy them from children Jenna.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
For children, Jenna, the tribal trouble beat for this. I
went mad trying to buy DoD Dudd excuse me.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yes, I'm trying to find the Troubleman dog. Remember that.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, that was all the way Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's right, Sam,
sit podcast.

Speaker 12 (45:58):
I do what.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
I wouldn't be chewing up for stupid toy. There's a
little kid trying to find it.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Bad in Mom the Laboo Boo for mama. You know,
Jenna's mum just texted her and said, Jonesy's so mean.
Jenna has a collection of La Boo boos. She hasn't
mistaken them for the fake lafufus.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yes, I'm just trying to help digital Jenna. I like
digital Jenna.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
You know, Jenna should actually be Japanese.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
She should live in Japan because that their rooms are
filled with all that stuff with no judgment from people.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
I have no judgment. I'm here.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
It sounds like you've got some judgment.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
How is that judgment? She's a thirty year old woman
with a bunch of fluffy toys and.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
That's okay too. These Laboo Boos, though, are absolutely everywhere.
The popularity has meant that PopMart, who sells them, have
had to close some of their stores in the UK
because people are getting aggressive. People have been queuing up
for nine hours to get their hands on some of
these collectibles.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yep, the tribal drama is beating for this. I went
mad trying to buy dot guards.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
Yes, I'm trying to find.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
A Troubleman dotto. Do you remember the movie jingle all
the way?

Speaker 3 (47:02):
What was he trying to buy a turbo?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
The turboman doll that became a thing, the doll. In
nineteen ninety six they released the doll. I just looked
on eBay five hundred and fifty dollars for a Turboman doll.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Well, how about this. Jenna spent just around thirty dollars
to buy one of her lafuf la boo boos. No
lafufu a la boo boo, and it was a special one.
One in seventy or something. In the unboxing she got
a special once worth two thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
You could put it into a home.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I could put you in a home. Leave her alone.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
She's got Hello, Wendy, how are you hi?

Speaker 11 (47:38):
Back in the early eighties, I ran a toy department
at the Old Wall with variety stores, and we had
cabbage patch dolls but no one else had them, and
I was carrying them out into the shop. They opened
the doors too quickly and the women just flew through.
I got thrown into a gondol around the glassware.

Speaker 9 (47:54):
I had to go and get your legs skeets.

Speaker 11 (47:55):
Oh wow, they were punching on over cabbage patch doles.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
These mothers. You got crossed into a glass cabinet and
sliced your legs.

Speaker 9 (48:06):
I got just got a cut on my leg.

Speaker 11 (48:07):
But yeah, I've got pushed aside. They ripped the dolls
down in my hands and just threw me aside and
then started punching on trying to get them crazy. I
was only eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
It was terrific. Wow, wow, it was only nineteen.

Speaker 13 (48:22):
The Horror Jonesy and Amanda podcast, man see Joel.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I think I remember where I was when I heard
about the la booboo craze?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Was it about ten minutes ago?

Speaker 12 (48:43):
It was?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I was right here listening to that nice man and
that lady for gotten no name on the radio.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, we're talking about la boo boos.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
This is if you're a parent of someone who's obsessed
with la boobos, you're not we're talking about. These are small,
little fluffy toys that you get via a mystery box,
and the pop popularity has just gone through the roof
all around the world, to the point where PopMart, who
has released all these toys, is saying that their stores
in England will be closed until further notice because there's

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been violent There've been nine hour cues.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And digital Jenna who works for us, who actually pays
tax and owns a house, she's got fourteen of them.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
She's got fourteen labooboo.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, but one of them is worth two thousand dollars.
She knows not to get a lafufu, which is a ripoff.
Don't get a lafufu, that's a fake laboobu.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
What a lafofou idiot. I don't understand this stuff. They travel.
What did you do?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
You had a daughter?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Your wife cued up to buy.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Stuff for the princess carriage? Are the tribal dramas pleading
to listen? Yes, I'm trying to find a troubleman.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
They made a whole movie about it.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
In Jingle all the way, Hello Chelsea, good morning, How
are we here? What did you go mad? Trying to buy?

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Well?

Speaker 9 (49:53):
The problem is you can't buy them. You had to
go to McDonald's to get them, and they were those
Minecraft toys.

Speaker 15 (49:57):
I had a lifetime supply of nuggets in that time,
going about and did I get them all?

Speaker 4 (50:01):
No?

Speaker 9 (50:04):
Of course they were so for my five year old son.
But I was doing my motherly duty as you do it,
and you go around and you scour the McDonald's, the local.
I ever went further afield. No, couldn't get them more?
Could I? They're feeling very deflated and fast.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Which ones you're missing? The collection? You know what?

Speaker 9 (50:21):
It's a saw point change. I couldn't even tell you.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Now I've let it go. I've made peace for.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
That is really tad Chelsea. How many nuggets did you eat?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Steven's Stephen.

Speaker 12 (50:32):
Yeah, nineteen seventy seven when we're in year eleven for
Star Wars movie came out and my friend bought all
the Star Wars merchandise. He's still got it all in
the original packaging. I think it'll probably fund his retirement.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
That's the scene, and particularly in the original boxes, all
the crap that we bought them, the packaging, it.

Speaker 12 (50:51):
Didn't open, he didn't open and play with it, like
all the other kids because it was like sixteen.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Did you know that he was onto something then or
do you think he was an idiot?

Speaker 12 (51:00):
Well, I've called your privilege because I collect the Ken dolls,
so I mean I'm a bit like him as well.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
And has your Ken dolls come out of the box?

Speaker 12 (51:08):
I no, No, thirty years are also in the box? No,
thirty five years?

Speaker 3 (51:13):
And what will that be worth to you?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Stephen to me.

Speaker 12 (51:18):
From the original price they've paid for mine? And they
say I would because I'm going to give it them
to my niece. I reckon she could sell them for
twice or three times the price because it's not going
to be released again. And the same way with my
friends are Star Wars stuff. You can get copies of stuff.
But that's the original one from the original movie, because
now you though it was going to be that big.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
No, and only because I'm fascinated. What's your weirdest one?
I've seen an empanada kind of Ken when I was
overseas Ken holding an empanada.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
What's the weirdest one you've got?

Speaker 12 (51:46):
I haven't got anything really weird. It's just that I've
got pretty much everything for the last thirty five years.
As you know, one or two of them missing. But
I've seen collections online, but people have unboxed them and
they say collectors don't like guffin box, so you kind.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Of open them to look at it.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
You can't. You can botch them.

Speaker 12 (52:02):
You can't play with me, you can't open them.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Wow, goods.

Speaker 12 (52:06):
My friend starts like fifty years old?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Nearly, yeah, fifties. How can that be?

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Fifty years old?

Speaker 4 (52:11):
What a shock?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
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Speaker 4 (52:41):
When did that happen? What have we got today?

Speaker 15 (52:44):
It really gives me the ghoulies when people have their
mobiles on speakerphone in public places.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Yeah, I know that happens a lot.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
You know, I hate as well. Sailor Jerry does this
all the time.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
He'll be talking to some person on FaceTime and then
he'll bring me into the conversation, Oh you know Jones.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
He's here, and then you're talking to some person over
in England and Jerry.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I don't want to be a part of the people
that just walk along with their phones in their hands,
like the Kardashians do, having loud conversations.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
What's with that? What is with that? To yourself? What
else do we got?

Speaker 5 (53:16):
What gets my gulies is when it's raining and people
walk through a train station with their big umbrellas and
they don't hold them pointing to the ground. They hold
them sideways and swing their arms with the umbrella in
their hand. So in peak rush hour we we're all
cramming upstairs and through walkways. You almost get stabbed with
their umbrella because they have no self awareness of people
in front of them, all behind them. So easy, point

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your umbrella to the ground, the ground.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Guilty, guilty of that.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
The other day I had it sort of under my
arm and wasn't aware that it was poking right out
the back of one of those big golf umbrellas.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, and in front of those ones that said who
deser to to say about?

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Actually embarrassingly it said, big brother, how holds that from
the vault? I just grabbed a giant golf umbrella from
the underneath the house and.

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We had cabbage patch dolls and no one else had them,
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I got thrown into a gondola around the glassware. I
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