June 23, 2025 • 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My Heart podcasts here, more Gold one on one point
seven podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation The.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Daily She is the editor. Emma Gillespie is here. Johnny Depp.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hello, Johnny Depp is back in the headlines. He's done
this extensive sit down interview with The Sunday Times. It
apparently went for four hours and the actor consumed a
broad range of drinks with.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Journalists Jonathan Dean.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
They started with Uproll, they moved onto red Wine, so
basically they proceeded to get more and more drunk over
the course of the four hours, and it shows. It
is a rambling interview. The magazine the paper describes it
as much. But in case you need a quick refresher,
Johnny Depp has kind of been, i suppose, in the
shadows or on the fringes of pop culture ever since
(00:51):
he garnered all this global attention for these trials with
and the Herd his ex wife. So they got married
in twenty fourteen. There's a thirteen year age gap there.
Heard took him to court in the UK. She successfully
won a trial there because there was a defamation conversation
she'd written an op iRED the son in the UK
(01:12):
called him a wife beat up, but the judge found
that the great majority of alleged assaults of Misheard by
Depp had been proved, so she won that. Then there
was a second trial in the US. This is probably
the one you're more familiar.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
D Yeah, it's funny that very highly publicized.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Took place in twenty twenty two. It was streamed live
on YouTube. It was this whole circus the whole world
watched where essentially Johnny Depp won that defamation case and
it discredited Amber Heard. So it's fifty to fifty in
terms of his wins and losses in the court.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Since then, he's lost work.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
He was dropped from the Fantastic Beasts Harry Potter franchise films,
his agent dropped him, and he's done this interview where
he says that he is a crash test or was
a crash test dummy for the Me too movement. It's
an interesting one because during the defamation trial he accused
Amber Heard of seeking popularity and fame on the me
(02:07):
too wave. Now he's kind of saying that it was
all pre that and.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
He was a victorist. One exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
He said it had gone far enough in terms of
the trial, and that he knew he'd have to semi
and viscerate himself. Everyone was saying it'll go away, but
I can't trust that. He said, the fiction pawned around
the globe. It wouldn't go away, And if I didn't
try to represent the truth, it would be like I'd
actually committed the acts I was accused of. So he
said he wasn't nervous about the trial, that he told
(02:36):
the truth the entire time. He did have a lot
to say about feeling betrayed by his friends and colleagues
in the industry.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
But I mean, what kind of choice do they have?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
It was very damning the allegations now, the way he
treated Amber heard. Whether or not it's true, who knows.
One court says it is, one court says it isn't.
But he seems to really be on this. I guess,
comeback only this trail to sort of prove his innocence.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That he had and all that new wave of young
men saying you know that rise above what the women
in a way.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So all that Andrew Tates stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, there'll be a whole lot of people who will
and woman too, who will support him through all of this?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yes, and who did?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I mean public sentiment at the time of that
US trial really heavily swayed in Johnny Depp's favor.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And as we were just saying, the social media was
flooded with bots, and as you say, you said to
me just off air, Emma, that this was well documented
that the Saudi's funded these bots that were pro Johnny
depth through all the social media.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Fascinating.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
There's been all these investigations in the years since. There's
a great podcast as a documentary all about this calculated
effort to program social media accounts, fake accounts, to flood
the Internet with all this hatred and vilification of Amber Herd.
And I'm not suggesting that there's not some really toxic,
abusive behavior possibly on both sides in that relationship, but
(03:59):
it was very, very dominated by this pro Johnny Depp
anti Amber heard sentiment.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, he's always continued to work.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
He never lost his door campaign, you know that part. Yeah, yep,
he never lost that job. He's directed a film that's
about to come out. He's in an action movie with
Penelope Cruise that's coming out late this year early next year.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
But he said that he lives in London and he's
essentially a.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Recluse, that he's shy, that he tries wearing hats or
he's grown a beard, but he feels like he has
to hide in public, so he just stays home watching YouTube,
right right, Poor Johnny, Poor Johnny.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Meanwhile, Amber heard what she does.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, that's the thing she's done.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The industry really turned on her and.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
She had no money.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I mean, she won two million in the first case,
but then the costs that she had to pay in
the second case, she was o viscerated there. She moved
to Madrid in twenty twenty three. She's raising his kid
there and she's pretty much fallen out of.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The She's still also donning a beard when she leaves
the house.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yes, but no hats.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Good hair.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Before we go, though, I have a TV show.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Completely when you have a TV show.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, sorry, I want to recommend to TV. I'm absolutely
obsessed with the show on stand. It's called This City
Is Ours. It's like Underbelly, but set in Liverpool.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
In the UK.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
So it's this organized crime family. A kind of blood
is thicker than water tail. It's so good and there's
also some very delicious kind of Liverpuglian accents. So you'll
walk around the house trying to do your best impression,
but I'm not good at us.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
What's it called.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It's called This City is Ours? Understand it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
If anyone watches it and wants to talk to me
about it, I am available.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It's so so.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
My people right now can call Emma and talk about
the show. Sean Bean's in it, who's Swan Bean?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Ned Stark from Your Thrones? And a bunch of other
kind of like, oh, they look a little bit familiar,
but who guess. It's an amazing show.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And I have to say this for the record of
man's it didn't write anything.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I did. Look at that this city is ours?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
She wrote it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You did too.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The city is ours much like this city Sydney is yours.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's ours with less accents.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Thank you, Emma. Mgsp from The Daily Os
My Heart podcasts here, more Gold one on one point
seven podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation The.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Daily She is the editor. Emma Gillespie is here. Johnny Depp.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hello, Johnny Depp is back in the headlines. He's done
this extensive sit down interview with The Sunday Times. It
apparently went for four hours and the actor consumed a
broad range of drinks with.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Journalists Jonathan Dean.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
They started with Uproll, they moved onto red Wine, so
basically they proceeded to get more and more drunk over
the course of the four hours, and it shows. It
is a rambling interview. The magazine the paper describes it
as much. But in case you need a quick refresher,
Johnny Depp has kind of been, i suppose, in the
shadows or on the fringes of pop culture ever since
(00:51):
he garnered all this global attention for these trials with
and the Herd his ex wife. So they got married
in twenty fourteen. There's a thirteen year age gap there.
Heard took him to court in the UK. She successfully
won a trial there because there was a defamation conversation
she'd written an op iRED the son in the UK
(01:12):
called him a wife beat up, but the judge found
that the great majority of alleged assaults of Misheard by
Depp had been proved, so she won that. Then there
was a second trial in the US. This is probably
the one you're more familiar.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
D Yeah, it's funny that very highly publicized.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Took place in twenty twenty two. It was streamed live
on YouTube. It was this whole circus the whole world
watched where essentially Johnny Depp won that defamation case and
it discredited Amber Heard. So it's fifty to fifty in
terms of his wins and losses in the court.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Since then, he's lost work.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
He was dropped from the Fantastic Beasts Harry Potter franchise films,
his agent dropped him, and he's done this interview where
he says that he is a crash test or was
a crash test dummy for the Me too movement. It's
an interesting one because during the defamation trial he accused
Amber Heard of seeking popularity and fame on the me
(02:07):
too wave. Now he's kind of saying that it was
all pre that and.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
He was a victorist. One exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
He said it had gone far enough in terms of
the trial, and that he knew he'd have to semi
and viscerate himself. Everyone was saying it'll go away, but
I can't trust that. He said, the fiction pawned around
the globe. It wouldn't go away, And if I didn't
try to represent the truth, it would be like I'd
actually committed the acts I was accused of. So he
said he wasn't nervous about the trial, that he told
(02:36):
the truth the entire time. He did have a lot
to say about feeling betrayed by his friends and colleagues
in the industry.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
But I mean, what kind of choice do they have?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
It was very damning the allegations now, the way he
treated Amber heard. Whether or not it's true, who knows.
One court says it is, one court says it isn't.
But he seems to really be on this. I guess,
comeback only this trail to sort of prove his innocence.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That he had and all that new wave of young
men saying you know that rise above what the women
in a way.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So all that Andrew Tates stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, there'll be a whole lot of people who will
and woman too, who will support him through all of this?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yes, and who did?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I mean public sentiment at the time of that
US trial really heavily swayed in Johnny Depp's favor.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
And as we were just saying, the social media was
flooded with bots, and as you say, you said to
me just off air, Emma, that this was well documented
that the Saudi's funded these bots that were pro Johnny
depth through all the social media.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Fascinating.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
There's been all these investigations in the years since. There's
a great podcast as a documentary all about this calculated
effort to program social media accounts, fake accounts, to flood
the Internet with all this hatred and vilification of Amber Herd.
And I'm not suggesting that there's not some really toxic,
abusive behavior possibly on both sides in that relationship, but
(03:59):
it was very, very dominated by this pro Johnny Depp
anti Amber heard sentiment.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, he's always continued to work.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
He never lost his door campaign, you know that part. Yeah, yep,
he never lost that job. He's directed a film that's
about to come out. He's in an action movie with
Penelope Cruise that's coming out late this year early next year.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
But he said that he lives in London and he's
essentially a.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Recluse, that he's shy, that he tries wearing hats or
he's grown a beard, but he feels like he has
to hide in public, so he just stays home watching YouTube,
right right, Poor Johnny, Poor Johnny.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Meanwhile, Amber heard what she does.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, that's the thing she's done.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Shit.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The industry really turned on her and.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
She had no money.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I mean, she won two million in the first case,
but then the costs that she had to pay in
the second case, she was o viscerated there. She moved
to Madrid in twenty twenty three. She's raising his kid
there and she's pretty much fallen out of.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The She's still also donning a beard when she leaves
the house.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yes, but no hats.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Good hair.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Before we go, though, I have a TV show.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Completely when you have a TV show.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, sorry, I want to recommend to TV. I'm absolutely
obsessed with the show on stand. It's called This City
Is Ours. It's like Underbelly, but set in Liverpool.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
In the UK.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
So it's this organized crime family. A kind of blood
is thicker than water tail. It's so good and there's
also some very delicious kind of Liverpuglian accents. So you'll
walk around the house trying to do your best impression,
but I'm not good at us.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
What's it called.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
It's called This City is Ours? Understand it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
If anyone watches it and wants to talk to me
about it, I am available.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It's so so.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
My people right now can call Emma and talk about
the show. Sean Bean's in it, who's Swan Bean?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Ned Stark from Your Thrones? And a bunch of other
kind of like, oh, they look a little bit familiar,
but who guess. It's an amazing show.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And I have to say this for the record of
man's it didn't write anything.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I did. Look at that this city is ours?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
She wrote it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
You did too.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
The city is ours much like this city Sydney is yours.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's ours with less accents.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Thank you, Emma. Mgsp from The Daily Os
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