July 7, 2025 • 7 mins
After speaking with Jacinda Ardern about giving birth while in power, we asked for your stories, and were absolutely SHOCKED by what we heard!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And Amanda jam Nation love chatting to Jacinda Adern and
as I said in the interview, her book begins with
a dilemma that many couples, but particularly women, have had
to face. You want to be pregnant, but the timing
is wrong, not wrong, tricky. Where are your priorities? It's
(00:24):
so so hard. She's waiting to hear if she's going
to be prime minister. She's trying to form a deal
with another with other factions to see if she's going
to be prime minister.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The pregnancy testing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
She's got a pregnancy test sitting on the counter. Those
two things are existing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And this is what she said.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Did you feel in that moment I can make both work? No,
And it's so hard, and it is really like idea
years of IVF. So you cannot control the timing of anything,
and you think, is now a bad time?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is now a good time? Please?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Anytime, any time, anytime. But for so many, so many couples,
men and women, it can come at the trickiest times.
It's kind of your life is much easier for guys,
it certainly is. But at the same time, what if
you're waiting for a promotion that's going to have you
traveling overseas or something like that. As a couple, the
(01:21):
chiming can be tricky, so we thought we'd.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hear your stories.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The tribal drums beating, We're charmingly calling it this bad
time to get knocked up.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, it all ends up being great, of course it does.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But when you're in the soup of the moment, you're going, wow,
could this have been at a trickier time?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Karen has joined us.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
What was the time in Karen? What was going on
for you?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Good morning? I was told by doctors that I wouldn't
for pregnant easily and all of that sort of thing,
So being pregnant was not something that I was thinking about.
And my husband and I were just about.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
To sign for a house, to purchase a house, and
my mum kept saying, you're pregnant, you're pregnant, and I'm like,
bought a pregnancy test and I'm like, all right, I'll
do the test.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Just to make you stop telling me what you think
you know. And it turns out.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And so were you out to sign for a house
many that you needed your income and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, absolutely, undred percent. So we didn't end up getting
the house because we didn't know how well I'd be during.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Pregnancy and all of that sort of thing. So yeah,
so we didn't end up purchasing the home.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And it was your mum that said take the test.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, and it turns out I was eleven weeks pregnant.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Wowow. And so now have you got baby and house?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Baby and another baby and a house? Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Home. I often think about it. I really have great
empathy for women. Women. This happens, you know, you get
a new job or something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Happens, and you can't stop yourself. As I know from
my IVF years, your life has to go ahead because
you may not end up with a bundle in your arms.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So you have to have a life. You've got to
have a lot, You've got to have a life. I'm
glad that everything's working out. Thanks, thank you. Tracy has
joined us illo.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Tracy, what was the poor timing for you?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Good morning? Like you, Amanda, I did the old IVF journey,
and like your previous caller, I was told that, you know,
age was one of those things and I was not
going to be fortunate enough to have a baby. So
we did the IVF journey, started a new job. Everything
was going great. It was time to go for our transfer,
(03:30):
transfer this transfer, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes to do
all that. I just started a new job. I remember
saying to my professor at the time, I've got a trance.
I've got a work conference that day. Can we change
the transfer date?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And he looked at you like you're an idiot?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
He did? He said no, and both.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Because your whole body, the whole timing of the drugs
is to take it to a certain moment. You can't
control any of the timing. It's so hard.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And my husband said, like, you know, it's not like
we're going grocery shopping here, Trace, you know which, I
had to have a baby. I'm like, okay, so I
have to fix up until, you know, tell my new workplace.
I kind of come, I'm trying to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And did you get a baby? Tracy?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I did? She's eighteen in October.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Really, just how did you just go in the job?
You stayed in the job.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
They were quite they were quite empathetic. She my area
manager actually said to me, Tracy, I knew you were
trying to have a baby. I was just waiting for
you to come and you know, and let us know
that this is a journey that you were taking. You've
got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
See Voss was a woman, makes it different.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But also Walt Disney famously Julie Andrews waited for until
you know, she had three kids.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He wanted her to play Mary Poppins. Always say I
want you for Mary Poppins.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He waited seven years, really because he knew that she
was right for the role.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
And she said, now I'm having a baby, and he was, well,
when you finished having that baby?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Really? And then he called her and he gets, but
I'm having another baby. And then so what had the patience?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Ironically, rather than freezing embryo as you froze his own head.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Like I'll never let it go. I know it's not true,
but I'll let you know that. Ben's with a seller.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Ben, guys love your work.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
What was the timing? Ben?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
First of all, just sent her. I thought the vulnerability
was just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
The loveliest person to talk to. I was so taken
with her.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Very inspiring. Yeah, look here's my almost nine years ago,
my son was ready to be born, my wife was
in labor with our first child, and we just moved
into her new house. It was a complete mess. But
here's the kicker, guys. My wife was an accounting and
she was in the middle of the end of year
financial reporting for a company which was also registered with
(05:51):
the Stock Exchange, and the boss and said, you need
to get these numbers to me because otherwise a company
will be delisted. So she goes into labor we head
and had the baby after thirty six hours later and
where she's kicking across a birthing ward. But on the
Monday morning, her laptop arrio for a giant tad in
a box of chocolates. Day one birth in recovery after
(06:14):
having a massive cesarian caesarian operation to have the baby removed.
He's almost nineteen, that he's healthy, happy, we got three boys.
But I'll never forget the fact that her boss had
the height to send her at her laptop on the
Monday morning to say those numbers police, congratulations and we
look forward to seeing you back at work very soon.
And she's back at work a week later when she
(06:35):
wasn't even supposed to be driving a week later.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Wow did she work on that Monday and get them
figures in I'm anxious for everybody.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
A man she did, and that the company was not delisted.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So imagine that.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Imagine the pressure of that. This is what people don't
appreciate the pressure of. We're in a deal list the company.
If you don't finish these things and you've just had
a thirty six hour labor that's ended in a cesarion
and a newborn baby in your arms, well, wow.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Ben, you wouldn't be able to sit the laptop anywhere,
certainly not in your lap. Oh my goodness, what a story.
Thank you, Ben,
And Amanda jam Nation love chatting to Jacinda Adern and
as I said in the interview, her book begins with
a dilemma that many couples, but particularly women, have had
to face. You want to be pregnant, but the timing
is wrong, not wrong, tricky. Where are your priorities? It's
(00:24):
so so hard. She's waiting to hear if she's going
to be prime minister. She's trying to form a deal
with another with other factions to see if she's going
to be prime minister.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The pregnancy testing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
She's got a pregnancy test sitting on the counter. Those
two things are existing at the same time.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And this is what she said.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Did you feel in that moment I can make both work? No,
And it's so hard, and it is really like idea
years of IVF. So you cannot control the timing of anything,
and you think, is now a bad time?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is now a good time? Please?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Anytime, any time, anytime. But for so many, so many couples,
men and women, it can come at the trickiest times.
It's kind of your life is much easier for guys,
it certainly is. But at the same time, what if
you're waiting for a promotion that's going to have you
traveling overseas or something like that. As a couple, the
(01:21):
chiming can be tricky, so we thought we'd.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hear your stories.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The tribal drums beating, We're charmingly calling it this bad
time to get knocked up.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, it all ends up being great, of course it does.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But when you're in the soup of the moment, you're going, wow,
could this have been at a trickier time?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Karen has joined us.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
What was the time in Karen? What was going on
for you?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Good morning? I was told by doctors that I wouldn't
for pregnant easily and all of that sort of thing,
So being pregnant was not something that I was thinking about.
And my husband and I were just about.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
To sign for a house, to purchase a house, and
my mum kept saying, you're pregnant, you're pregnant, and I'm like,
bought a pregnancy test and I'm like, all right, I'll
do the test.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Just to make you stop telling me what you think
you know. And it turns out.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And so were you out to sign for a house
many that you needed your income and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, absolutely, undred percent. So we didn't end up getting
the house because we didn't know how well I'd be during.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Pregnancy and all of that sort of thing. So yeah,
so we didn't end up purchasing the home.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And it was your mum that said take the test.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, and it turns out I was eleven weeks pregnant.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Wowow. And so now have you got baby and house?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Baby and another baby and a house? Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Home. I often think about it. I really have great
empathy for women. Women. This happens, you know, you get
a new job or something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Happens, and you can't stop yourself. As I know from
my IVF years, your life has to go ahead because
you may not end up with a bundle in your arms.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So you have to have a life. You've got to
have a lot, You've got to have a life. I'm
glad that everything's working out. Thanks, thank you. Tracy has
joined us illo.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Tracy, what was the poor timing for you?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Good morning? Like you, Amanda, I did the old IVF journey,
and like your previous caller, I was told that, you know,
age was one of those things and I was not
going to be fortunate enough to have a baby. So
we did the IVF journey, started a new job. Everything
was going great. It was time to go for our transfer,
(03:30):
transfer this transfer, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes to do
all that. I just started a new job. I remember
saying to my professor at the time, I've got a trance.
I've got a work conference that day. Can we change
the transfer date?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And he looked at you like you're an idiot?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
He did? He said no, and both.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Because your whole body, the whole timing of the drugs
is to take it to a certain moment. You can't
control any of the timing. It's so hard.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And my husband said, like, you know, it's not like
we're going grocery shopping here, Trace, you know which, I
had to have a baby. I'm like, okay, so I
have to fix up until, you know, tell my new workplace.
I kind of come, I'm trying to have a baby.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And did you get a baby? Tracy?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I did? She's eighteen in October.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Really, just how did you just go in the job?
You stayed in the job.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
They were quite they were quite empathetic. She my area
manager actually said to me, Tracy, I knew you were
trying to have a baby. I was just waiting for
you to come and you know, and let us know
that this is a journey that you were taking. You've
got nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
See Voss was a woman, makes it different.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But also Walt Disney famously Julie Andrews waited for until
you know, she had three kids.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He wanted her to play Mary Poppins. Always say I
want you for Mary Poppins.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He waited seven years, really because he knew that she
was right for the role.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
And she said, now I'm having a baby, and he was, well,
when you finished having that baby?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Really? And then he called her and he gets, but
I'm having another baby. And then so what had the patience?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Ironically, rather than freezing embryo as you froze his own head.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Like I'll never let it go. I know it's not true,
but I'll let you know that. Ben's with a seller.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Ben, guys love your work.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
What was the timing? Ben?
Speaker 6 (05:19):
First of all, just sent her. I thought the vulnerability
was just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
The loveliest person to talk to. I was so taken
with her.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Very inspiring. Yeah, look here's my almost nine years ago,
my son was ready to be born, my wife was
in labor with our first child, and we just moved
into her new house. It was a complete mess. But
here's the kicker, guys. My wife was an accounting and
she was in the middle of the end of year
financial reporting for a company which was also registered with
(05:51):
the Stock Exchange, and the boss and said, you need
to get these numbers to me because otherwise a company
will be delisted. So she goes into labor we head
and had the baby after thirty six hours later and
where she's kicking across a birthing ward. But on the
Monday morning, her laptop arrio for a giant tad in
a box of chocolates. Day one birth in recovery after
(06:14):
having a massive cesarian caesarian operation to have the baby removed.
He's almost nineteen, that he's healthy, happy, we got three boys.
But I'll never forget the fact that her boss had
the height to send her at her laptop on the
Monday morning to say those numbers police, congratulations and we
look forward to seeing you back at work very soon.
And she's back at work a week later when she
(06:35):
wasn't even supposed to be driving a week later.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Wow did she work on that Monday and get them
figures in I'm anxious for everybody.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
A man she did, and that the company was not delisted.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So imagine that.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Imagine the pressure of that. This is what people don't
appreciate the pressure of. We're in a deal list the company.
If you don't finish these things and you've just had
a thirty six hour labor that's ended in a cesarion
and a newborn baby in your arms, well, wow.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Ben, you wouldn't be able to sit the laptop anywhere,
certainly not in your lap. Oh my goodness, what a story.
Thank you, Ben,
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