August 27, 2023 • 19 mins
What do you do when you think your mate is ripping you off? Content creator and stand-up comedian Mitchell Coombs has brought his ‘Is It Just Me?’ podcast co-host Mitch Churi to Judge Gina seeking financial recompense for audio recording equipment that Coombes believes he should not have to pay for.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's been said that friendship and money are like oil
and water.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
They never mix.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
When you have a dispute that needs settling once and
for all, you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina,
and my decision is final.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Today Mitch Combs has brought Mitch Chury to Judge Gina
over a money misunderstanding. He is seeking eight hundred dollars
in financial compensation for podcast equipment he believes he should
not have had to pay for.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
My name's Mitchell Coombs. I'm a stand up comedian, a
social media creator and I co host.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
The podcast Is It Just Me.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I've come on Judge Gina today because I feel that
my former friends and current co host Mitch Churry had
ripped me off. A near and dear friend, He's ripped
me off.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
My name is Mitch Churi. I'm the host of the
Night Show on Kiss FM, the national evening show on Kiss.
I also host the three pm pick Up Around Australia
on the Kiss network. Oh Shit. I'm also the host
of the iHeartRadio exclusive podcast Is It Just Me? With
Mitchell Kerbs, my co host. I've come to defend myself
and my family's honor. I believe I've been defamed. I've
(01:26):
been dragged here today over what I thought was a
simple transaction with a good friend that has turned very sour.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I've known the other Mitch since twenty seventeen. I met
him when I started working at the same radio station
he was already working at.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Mitch and I have been friends for goodness me five six,
last seven years now, a long time, and I consider
him one of my best friends. But maybe not for
much longer.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
There's been a lot of tension behind the scenes of
our podcast, but we're finally ready to put this to bed.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, So we've got the two Mitches here, Mitch Kumbs
and Mitch Churi. So I'm going to start with Mitch
Kombs because it's your application today.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You want interesting, you want an amount? Excuse me?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
No, no, I'm apologies. No, I just more meant that
it was it's interesting that you apologies, Janet, No, I'm sorry. Okay,
what's not interesting?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, it is interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
You are interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, I'll ignite you to speak. You can stop there,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
No, sorry, I didn't be you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm going to refer to you both by your surname.
So I'm going to ask Coombs if you can just
tell me a bit about your relationship. So are you friends?
Do you work together? How long have you known each other?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Both, we've known each other for quite a few years now,
I think it was twenty seventeen. We started working together.
We were colleagues and then became very close friends. And then,
like all friends, we thought, God, our conversations deserve to
be recorded and broadcast. So we started the podcast as
a couple of mitches and it's been a good few
years now, running strong and very minimal fights in that time.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So your podcast is about wash.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Well, it's called Is It Just Me? That's the name
of the podcast.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Okay, I wanted the name to be Mitch please, like
bitch please, but Mitch please, but Mitch wanted is It
Just Me?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And so it's every week we get together and debrief
something we've noticed, hate or appreciate.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
It's a bit of improv bit of fun.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So I'm going to come to you, mister Tury fantastic,
tell me about because I can see the burning desire
to say something.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
No, no, I just know it's just because I've seen
the GW.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Stop mister Cury, okay, so I no stop. I'm just
going to ask you some questions and if you can
just answer, okay, don't one word, answer, just concisely as
you can, that would be got.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So you've known mister Coombe since about twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You've heard what he said. Do you agree with all that?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
We met on his birthday actually, and I had already
worked at the radio station since twenty fifteen, so I
extended the olive branch. I think I probably wanted to
maybe get with him at the start, maybe take him
on a dinner or something, but he quite quickly you've
seen his personality. It didn't work. We didn't click in
that respect, so it was strictly platonic straight away. But
we met on his birthday. Then the podcast was born,
(04:28):
you know, two years later.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Fantastic all right, So you actually there was an attraction there,
but it didn't.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Get Yes, I found Mitchell Kuhmb circa twenty seventeen attractive,
and I'm not afraid to say it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
There you go, there's a compliment for you. So I've
got an application here from mister Coombs he wants an
amount that he paid you for a road cast paid
back to him. So I'm just going to ask you
some questions about this road cast. So, yes, you were
given a road caster for free during lockdown?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah? Correct?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So tell me that story. Yeah, yes, So I host.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I still host the same show, the night show, and
that show during COVID had to go from home, so
I had to record the show from my broom. Closs
and the good people at road It's an Australian brand.
They sent me a road caster, which is like a
little mini radio. Yeah, here it is. It's right in
with this.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What is it? What is it an?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
It's a mini broadcast console, Gina. So if you've been
in a radio studio you'll know, or a podcast studio.
There's a desk. It's probably the size of like a
large Domino's pizza just going off, you know what I know.
And you can control the microphone levels, you can put
calls through it, sound effect, you can make wacky sounds.
You have a lot of fun with it. Gena action
(05:38):
now that I'm thinking of you playing with it, but
I enjoyed it. So I play with this roadcast. I
do my successful radio show and then covid ends. So
I put it on gum Tree and I had bids, Gina,
I had bids.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, No, I'm going to stop you because I'm going
to ask you some questions.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Oh you did say that?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Sorry, say that, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So in early twenty twenty two, you put it on
gum tree for sale? How much was it for sale?
How much we're selling it for one thousand dollars and
you got it for free, but that's you. It was
yours to keep it. It was given to me, yes,
givens okay, and they didn't expect that. Rhades didn't expect
you to return that to them at any stage.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
No, it was not on loan.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It was gifted, okay, and then you purchased something else
to do.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I was gifted the new model by road they're good friends,
and they sent me the road Caster too. It had
been obviously two years. They had new technology, and they.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Read cast Pro doesn't even know what it's called road.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Caster Pro too, and they said, you love the first one.
Your show has been so successful. We've seen the press,
the billboards. We will give you the new model. And
I said fantastic. So that's why I put it up.
I didn't need it's been two years. And it had
been two years and I thought, let's let's just get
some some pocket money for it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay, so you'd already put it up for sale, but
you said that that mister Combs could buy it for
a cheaper price.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Well, what happened was we were my home studio which
had the new road caster, and I was showing it off.
I was saying, look at this beautiful new item of
kit that I've been gifted graciously by road in Australian business.
And then Mitchell goes, oh, you had an old one,
and I said, yeah, I've got an old one. I'm
actually selling it. He and I I'd love to get one.
I'm in the market for a road caster myself. And
(07:19):
then I said, well fantastic. You know, if you want one,
I'm not using it, and he said great, I'll have it.
I went awesome, we'll pack it up and we'll get
it to you, and off he took with his new
road caster, and.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He didn't talk price.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Well, I believe price was mentioned. It's very rude to
sort of throw around price straight away. I think I
said something along the lines of we'll chat details. I'll
text you about detail. We'll talk the road caster detail.
We're very close, you see, so we'll talk cash. I
think I could have said later.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm going to go to mister Coombs now, I think,
do you say happened?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I don't even know where to start when it comes
to unpacking the FIBs.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I've been nowhere.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Okay, So firstly, it all came about via a phone call.
We were on the phone for some reason and you
just mentioned, oh my god, I just got sent the
new road cast of the road Caster pro to the upgrade,
and he was gloating about that it was a freebein.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I was like, oh wait, so can I have your
old one? And he's like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And did he did you know that it was for saving?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
There was no mention of that until after it was
in my possession.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Did you know that he had it advertised and that
he'd had on the market for a week, and that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
In fact that I would challenge him to present screenshots
of the ad because I'm not sure that they it
ever went on Marketplace or gum Tree, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Did you know that he'd been asking for one thousand dollars?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No, there was no When did you find that out?
When did you find out.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
After the fact after I already had it?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
When is how long?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
When when he got it to me? That was a
week or so after this phone call? So one week
later he delivered it probably, and it was we were
at my I have for delivery. We were recording an interview.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Did he say anything when he delivered it.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
No.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He brought it in a box and said here, because
we're doing a recording.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I want to know the words he used when he
gave you the box.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Well, the words were essentially, here you go.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I'll just leave this at your house when we're done
with it, because I've got one back at home, right.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And did that later conversation happen?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I bump him maybe a week later because I hadn't
received cash, So I just said, you.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Have received cash. You haven't told him what the cash's later? Later?
This is a week later.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Now if more, it was expecting him, as a good
close friend of mine and someone that I could have
potentially once slept with, to have offered out and gone Hi, Mitchell,
thanks for the road caster. What are you for that
old friend? When in fact radio silence. So then I said, look,
I'd like eight hundred dollars for it. I'm selling it
for a thousand. You've got my account details because we've
(09:52):
had dinner together. Just transfer me eight hundred bucks and
I'd prefer cash, is what I said, because I wanted
it to be off the books. Off the books, yeh
l Chapo style.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'll caution you, as a judge would that anything you
say may be used against you, and so I will
caution you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That you need to say nothing further.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Thank you terms of that, and I won't be asking
you any and if you are asked any questions, you're
not compelled to answer them.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Oh I would have liked to have known that. Show
you there, Thank you judge.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
All right, So you want a d eight hundred dollars
for the for the road casting pastor that's heavily discounted.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Is it two hundred dollars? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
But you didn't ask him for money, so you gave
it to him. He took possession of it and there
was no discussion of money.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Well, how dare he assume that it was a free gift.
I mean, I don't want to get routy here, but
the men he assumed it was free.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well you didn't tell him otherwise.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I can't recall what the wording was, but I'm a
very it's not your time. I can't was it's not
your time because I said it's for sale. I said, yes,
it's for sale. If you would like to purchase it,
is what I said, Then we can organize a deal.
Judge in it. Can I make one other edition? If
I could, you'd assume, being a good friend, Mitch would
just transfer me the money. Of course I have for
(11:13):
some quips, you know, with that lizard tongue of his. However,
he asked me to formulate an invoice and then forward
it to him so he could make it a tax
deductible purchase and or you know what I want. I
wanted to do with the money. I won't repeat that,
but I had to then formulate it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Not everybody is wanting to evade tax, you see.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's the issue here, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I mean, I would suggest that if mister Coombs is
in the business of podcast and radio, that something is
that he purchases could be a tax deduction. Correct, So
I would suggest that's a very fair and valid request
to have a tax invoice. But My question is the
tax invoice was for eight hundred dollars and did you
(12:00):
pay it?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And when I did pay.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It, which I was, I did ask him to do
the invoice. I was kind of relying on his lazy
and it's thinking you'd never get around to it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
But much to my suppose buying time, I was, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Had to watch a YouTube tutorial and what nobody made
the invoice? Zero zero zero two? Like I just make
it up as I go to be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Right, Okay, well, I'm sure you're not selling many of
these things and they it's probably a one one invoice
in your whole lifetime.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Correct, Yes, yes, you're.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right right, So you've got your eight hundred dollars you
paid that? When did you pay that, mister Koombs. I
can't remember exactly when that one was later a month later,
two days, it was late. I reckon it would have
been about a month later, because you got me the
invoice eventually, and I.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Remember not putting food on the table for my family
that so it would be late.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, you couldn't put food on the table for your family,
so you just you were.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
I'm believing, Yeah, I was. I needed that money.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Thant even a due date on the invoice.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And then so when was the first mentioned to you
of money that.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Came after the fact I got a text that said, oh,
can you just.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I want to know when? When? When did you get
a text?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
His sweating, judge, sweating on the brow?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I really sweating, judge, he's lying as usual.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Now that's an aspersion.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Why are you allowed to speak when I'm talking? I
had to shut my mouth.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, I'm going to stop you both there, So go on.
I want to know about when you first got the
mention of a text and money.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was very soon after he left. It might have
been that afternoon or the next day. I hadn't even
unpacked the thing. I left it in the box out
of spy, so that day possibly, okay?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And how much was he? What does the message say?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
He usually could get that message up if you just search,
If you just searched road Caster in your phone, it
did quite simply appear.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'd have to scroll back the while, but yeah, I'd
be prepared to do that if we had all day.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I don't believe we do, but we'll come back to it,
you know, I mean, you knew you were here. Running
a case, so you have to be prepared, so Jina, Judge,
I agree, Jo's I'm not asking for your feedback, of course,
thank you. So text that day and do you recall
(14:12):
before you refer to your notes? Can you exhaust your
memory please and tell me what you think that message says?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
It was very casual.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, no, I want to know what it says. Yeah,
me too, say it was very casual.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, no, no, He said, do you want to just transfer
me eight hundred? Do you want to just transfer me
eight hundred? Yeah, it was a question, and did you
say no?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I probably barked back with are you right? What do
you mean to know?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Probably? What do you think you said?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I would have said something Judge to the effect of,
you didn't pay for it, so why are you pocketing
from this?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Because it's his possession?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
This is true. You're right.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So if you inherit a house from a deceased grandparent,
does that mean you give it away for free?
Speaker 6 (14:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of course not so. Once you've got physical possession of something,
it's your will do whatever.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You donate it to a charity or something. If I
didn't need the helld.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
You can't even spell charity?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I would suggest that if you own something, it's your
possession and you can do whatever you like with it.
Gift it, sell it, use it, keep it, put it away,
throw it out, whatever you like to do. It doesn't matter.
So I think the confusion here more so is the
fact that you weren't to where it was for sale.
You've accepted and received these goods on the premise that
(15:34):
they were given to your friend as a gift, and
as a result of that, you've assumed that you would
also have the benefit of someone's generosity.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yes, I'll quote The Castle a court based movie.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's just the vibe, you know, just the vibe the
law of bloody common sense.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Right right, Well, that doesn't hold up in a court
of war, you know. I just I just killed people
because it was the vibe.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He's speaking over dutchdowns speaking over.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Yet the mars.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Getting very messy here, So I'm going to pull you
both back. So I just want to know what do
you want me to do today? I'll start with mister Coombs,
what do you want me to do today? Why have
you brought this to me today?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well, the emotional just.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Stress that I've endured as a result of this and also,
I am a freelancer. I don't have a steady wage
like you, so I'm very out of pocket.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I'd like it to be reimbursed.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Because it's not lost to be reimbursed the eight hundred dollars.
It's the eight hundred because he's not actually out of
pocket by then, because he didn't pay for the equipment
in the first place.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I've just gone back because there's quite a few sales,
all very well priced, and I'm going through my five
star reviews. Nice man love his radio show. I think
it's one awards. That's just the feedback on my profile.
Here we go road caster pro for sale, Redfern, New
South Wales, nine nine nine right right, shipping offered so
I was willing to shore. Sorry, Mitchell, I can show you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well that was free shipping. You've shipped it to Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Correct, very good point.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That was free shipping.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
It said, sorry, you're charging them way less than me. No,
I wasn't charging them less than you. No, it's nine
nine nine and I charged you eight. And it was
being deleted. Judge, but you can see here if I
hold it up to the court of.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
War, I'd like you to read it to me. Please,
road cast.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
To pro description. Hi there, I'm selling my barely used
road cast pro used for radio productions based in Sydney,
looking for a new home. Need money for ice cream,
and then that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, So, mister Coombs, so you've never seen that? Have
you seen that ad before today?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I've just laid eyes on it for the first time,
and none of that is written in it.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Did you know you were getting a discount? Did you
know that the eight hundred dollars was less than the
asking price?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Had that?
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Well, that was one thing that he did point out
to me when I said.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You're going to charge me, and he goes, yeah, i'll
charge you. Lets you know how much I could be
for this on gum trick.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay, I've heard enough. I'm going to deliberate.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Mitch Coombs, you are seeking eight hundred dollars from Mitch Jury.
You do not believe you should have to pay for
the road procaster too, as it was gifted to Mitchjury
and there was no discussion of payment when he gave
it to you. I'm going to make an order in
favor of mister Koomb's for eight hundred dollars nothing further.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm absolutely stoked with today's outcome. There was a while
there where I really didn't think it was going to
go my way. I didn't think I had any legs
to stand on. I thought that in the eyes of
the law, I was screwed.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
But here we are.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Common sense prevailed and I knew I could rely on
Judge Gina for common sense.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I feel devastated and completely gutted.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I think this trial will affect my relationship with Mitch
going forward in a good way, because after this, he
will know that I can't BETWI.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Look, I don't really feel this will effect my relationship
with Mitchell Coombs. Believe it or not, we have had
blow ups bigger than this. I feel the disagreement has
been buried once and for all, like I wanted. That
is the one outcome of this situation that I am
happy with.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yes, this has been an iHeart production.
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's been said that friendship and money are like oil
and water.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
They never mix.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
When you have a dispute that needs settling once and
for all, you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina,
and my decision is final.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Today Mitch Combs has brought Mitch Chury to Judge Gina
over a money misunderstanding. He is seeking eight hundred dollars
in financial compensation for podcast equipment he believes he should
not have had to pay for.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
My name's Mitchell Coombs. I'm a stand up comedian, a
social media creator and I co host.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
The podcast Is It Just Me.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I've come on Judge Gina today because I feel that
my former friends and current co host Mitch Churry had
ripped me off. A near and dear friend, He's ripped
me off.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
My name is Mitch Churi. I'm the host of the
Night Show on Kiss FM, the national evening show on Kiss.
I also host the three pm pick Up Around Australia
on the Kiss network. Oh Shit. I'm also the host
of the iHeartRadio exclusive podcast Is It Just Me? With
Mitchell Kerbs, my co host. I've come to defend myself
and my family's honor. I believe I've been defamed. I've
(01:26):
been dragged here today over what I thought was a
simple transaction with a good friend that has turned very sour.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I've known the other Mitch since twenty seventeen. I met
him when I started working at the same radio station
he was already working at.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Mitch and I have been friends for goodness me five six,
last seven years now, a long time, and I consider
him one of my best friends. But maybe not for
much longer.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
There's been a lot of tension behind the scenes of
our podcast, but we're finally ready to put this to bed.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, So we've got the two Mitches here, Mitch Kumbs
and Mitch Churi. So I'm going to start with Mitch
Kombs because it's your application today.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You want interesting, you want an amount? Excuse me?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
No, no, I'm apologies. No, I just more meant that
it was it's interesting that you apologies, Janet, No, I'm sorry. Okay,
what's not interesting?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, it is interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
You are interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, I'll ignite you to speak. You can stop there,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
No, sorry, I didn't be you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm going to refer to you both by your surname.
So I'm going to ask Coombs if you can just
tell me a bit about your relationship. So are you friends?
Do you work together? How long have you known each other?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Both, we've known each other for quite a few years now,
I think it was twenty seventeen. We started working together.
We were colleagues and then became very close friends. And then,
like all friends, we thought, God, our conversations deserve to
be recorded and broadcast. So we started the podcast as
a couple of mitches and it's been a good few
years now, running strong and very minimal fights in that time.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So your podcast is about wash.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Well, it's called Is It Just Me? That's the name
of the podcast.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Okay, I wanted the name to be Mitch please, like
bitch please, but Mitch please, but Mitch wanted is It
Just Me?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And so it's every week we get together and debrief
something we've noticed, hate or appreciate.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
It's a bit of improv bit of fun.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So I'm going to come to you, mister Tury fantastic,
tell me about because I can see the burning desire
to say something.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
No, no, I just know it's just because I've seen
the GW.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Stop mister Cury, okay, so I no stop. I'm just
going to ask you some questions and if you can
just answer, okay, don't one word, answer, just concisely as
you can, that would be got.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So you've known mister Coombe since about twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You've heard what he said. Do you agree with all that?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
We met on his birthday actually, and I had already
worked at the radio station since twenty fifteen, so I
extended the olive branch. I think I probably wanted to
maybe get with him at the start, maybe take him
on a dinner or something, but he quite quickly you've
seen his personality. It didn't work. We didn't click in
that respect, so it was strictly platonic straight away. But
we met on his birthday. Then the podcast was born,
(04:28):
you know, two years later.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Fantastic all right, So you actually there was an attraction there,
but it didn't.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Get Yes, I found Mitchell Kuhmb circa twenty seventeen attractive,
and I'm not afraid to say it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
There you go, there's a compliment for you. So I've
got an application here from mister Coombs he wants an
amount that he paid you for a road cast paid
back to him. So I'm just going to ask you
some questions about this road cast. So, yes, you were
given a road caster for free during lockdown?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah? Correct?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So tell me that story. Yeah, yes, So I host.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
I still host the same show, the night show, and
that show during COVID had to go from home, so
I had to record the show from my broom. Closs
and the good people at road It's an Australian brand.
They sent me a road caster, which is like a
little mini radio. Yeah, here it is. It's right in
with this.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What is it? What is it an?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
It's a mini broadcast console, Gina. So if you've been
in a radio studio you'll know, or a podcast studio.
There's a desk. It's probably the size of like a
large Domino's pizza just going off, you know what I know.
And you can control the microphone levels, you can put
calls through it, sound effect, you can make wacky sounds.
You have a lot of fun with it. Gena action
(05:38):
now that I'm thinking of you playing with it, but
I enjoyed it. So I play with this roadcast. I
do my successful radio show and then covid ends. So
I put it on gum Tree and I had bids, Gina,
I had bids.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, No, I'm going to stop you because I'm going
to ask you some questions.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Oh you did say that?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Sorry, say that, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So in early twenty twenty two, you put it on
gum tree for sale? How much was it for sale?
How much we're selling it for one thousand dollars and
you got it for free, but that's you. It was
yours to keep it. It was given to me, yes,
givens okay, and they didn't expect that. Rhades didn't expect
you to return that to them at any stage.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
No, it was not on loan.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It was gifted, okay, and then you purchased something else
to do.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I was gifted the new model by road they're good friends,
and they sent me the road Caster too. It had
been obviously two years. They had new technology, and they.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Read cast Pro doesn't even know what it's called road.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Caster Pro too, and they said, you love the first one.
Your show has been so successful. We've seen the press,
the billboards. We will give you the new model. And
I said fantastic. So that's why I put it up.
I didn't need it's been two years. And it had
been two years and I thought, let's let's just get
some some pocket money for it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay, so you'd already put it up for sale, but
you said that that mister Combs could buy it for
a cheaper price.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Well, what happened was we were my home studio which
had the new road caster, and I was showing it off.
I was saying, look at this beautiful new item of
kit that I've been gifted graciously by road in Australian business.
And then Mitchell goes, oh, you had an old one,
and I said, yeah, I've got an old one. I'm
actually selling it. He and I I'd love to get one.
I'm in the market for a road caster myself. And
(07:19):
then I said, well fantastic. You know, if you want one,
I'm not using it, and he said great, I'll have it.
I went awesome, we'll pack it up and we'll get
it to you, and off he took with his new
road caster, and.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He didn't talk price.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Well, I believe price was mentioned. It's very rude to
sort of throw around price straight away. I think I
said something along the lines of we'll chat details. I'll
text you about detail. We'll talk the road caster detail.
We're very close, you see, so we'll talk cash. I
think I could have said later.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I'm going to go to mister Coombs now, I think,
do you say happened?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I don't even know where to start when it comes
to unpacking the FIBs.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I've been nowhere.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Okay, So firstly, it all came about via a phone call.
We were on the phone for some reason and you
just mentioned, oh my god, I just got sent the
new road cast of the road Caster pro to the upgrade,
and he was gloating about that it was a freebein.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I was like, oh wait, so can I have your
old one? And he's like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And did he did you know that it was for saving?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
There was no mention of that until after it was
in my possession.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Did you know that he had it advertised and that
he'd had on the market for a week, and that.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
In fact that I would challenge him to present screenshots
of the ad because I'm not sure that they it
ever went on Marketplace or gum Tree, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Did you know that he'd been asking for one thousand dollars?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No, there was no When did you find that out?
When did you find out.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
After the fact after I already had it?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
When is how long?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
When when he got it to me? That was a
week or so after this phone call? So one week
later he delivered it probably, and it was we were
at my I have for delivery. We were recording an interview.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Did he say anything when he delivered it.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
No.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
He brought it in a box and said here, because
we're doing a recording.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I want to know the words he used when he
gave you the box.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Well, the words were essentially, here you go.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I'll just leave this at your house when we're done
with it, because I've got one back at home, right.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And did that later conversation happen?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
I bump him maybe a week later because I hadn't
received cash, So I just said, you.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Have received cash. You haven't told him what the cash's later? Later?
This is a week later.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Now if more, it was expecting him, as a good
close friend of mine and someone that I could have
potentially once slept with, to have offered out and gone Hi, Mitchell,
thanks for the road caster. What are you for that
old friend? When in fact radio silence. So then I said, look,
I'd like eight hundred dollars for it. I'm selling it
for a thousand. You've got my account details because we've
(09:52):
had dinner together. Just transfer me eight hundred bucks and
I'd prefer cash, is what I said, because I wanted
it to be off the books. Off the books, yeh
l Chapo style.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'll caution you, as a judge would that anything you
say may be used against you, and so I will
caution you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
That you need to say nothing further.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Thank you terms of that, and I won't be asking
you any and if you are asked any questions, you're
not compelled to answer them.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Oh I would have liked to have known that. Show
you there, Thank you judge.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
All right, So you want a d eight hundred dollars
for the for the road casting pastor that's heavily discounted.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Is it two hundred dollars? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
But you didn't ask him for money, so you gave
it to him. He took possession of it and there
was no discussion of money.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Well, how dare he assume that it was a free gift.
I mean, I don't want to get routy here, but
the men he assumed it was free.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well you didn't tell him otherwise.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I can't recall what the wording was, but I'm a
very it's not your time. I can't was it's not
your time because I said it's for sale. I said, yes,
it's for sale. If you would like to purchase it,
is what I said, Then we can organize a deal.
Judge in it. Can I make one other edition? If
I could, you'd assume, being a good friend, Mitch would
just transfer me the money. Of course I have for
(11:13):
some quips, you know, with that lizard tongue of his. However,
he asked me to formulate an invoice and then forward
it to him so he could make it a tax
deductible purchase and or you know what I want. I
wanted to do with the money. I won't repeat that,
but I had to then formulate it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Not everybody is wanting to evade tax, you see.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
That's the issue here, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I mean, I would suggest that if mister Coombs is
in the business of podcast and radio, that something is
that he purchases could be a tax deduction. Correct, So
I would suggest that's a very fair and valid request
to have a tax invoice. But My question is the
tax invoice was for eight hundred dollars and did you
(12:00):
pay it?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And when I did pay.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It, which I was, I did ask him to do
the invoice. I was kind of relying on his lazy
and it's thinking you'd never get around to it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
But much to my suppose buying time, I was, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Had to watch a YouTube tutorial and what nobody made
the invoice? Zero zero zero two? Like I just make
it up as I go to be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Right, Okay, well, I'm sure you're not selling many of
these things and they it's probably a one one invoice
in your whole lifetime.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Correct, Yes, yes, you're.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Right right, So you've got your eight hundred dollars you
paid that? When did you pay that, mister Koombs. I
can't remember exactly when that one was later a month later,
two days, it was late. I reckon it would have
been about a month later, because you got me the
invoice eventually, and I.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Remember not putting food on the table for my family
that so it would be late.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, you couldn't put food on the table for your family,
so you just you were.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
I'm believing, Yeah, I was. I needed that money.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Thant even a due date on the invoice.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And then so when was the first mentioned to you
of money that.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Came after the fact I got a text that said, oh,
can you just.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I want to know when? When? When did you get
a text?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
His sweating, judge, sweating on the brow?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I really sweating, judge, he's lying as usual.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Now that's an aspersion.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Why are you allowed to speak when I'm talking? I
had to shut my mouth.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, I'm going to stop you both there, So go on.
I want to know about when you first got the
mention of a text and money.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was very soon after he left. It might have
been that afternoon or the next day. I hadn't even
unpacked the thing. I left it in the box out
of spy, so that day possibly, okay?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And how much was he? What does the message say?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
He usually could get that message up if you just search,
If you just searched road Caster in your phone, it
did quite simply appear.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'd have to scroll back the while, but yeah, I'd
be prepared to do that if we had all day.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I don't believe we do, but we'll come back to it,
you know, I mean, you knew you were here. Running
a case, so you have to be prepared, so Jina, Judge,
I agree, Jo's I'm not asking for your feedback, of course,
thank you. So text that day and do you recall
(14:12):
before you refer to your notes? Can you exhaust your
memory please and tell me what you think that message says?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
It was very casual.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, no, I want to know what it says. Yeah,
me too, say it was very casual.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
No, no, no, He said, do you want to just transfer
me eight hundred? Do you want to just transfer me
eight hundred? Yeah, it was a question, and did you
say no?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I probably barked back with are you right? What do
you mean to know?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Probably? What do you think you said?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I would have said something Judge to the effect of,
you didn't pay for it, so why are you pocketing
from this?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Because it's his possession?
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
This is true. You're right.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So if you inherit a house from a deceased grandparent,
does that mean you give it away for free?
Speaker 6 (14:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of course not so. Once you've got physical possession of something,
it's your will do whatever.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
You donate it to a charity or something. If I
didn't need the helld.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
You can't even spell charity?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I would suggest that if you own something, it's your
possession and you can do whatever you like with it.
Gift it, sell it, use it, keep it, put it away,
throw it out, whatever you like to do. It doesn't matter.
So I think the confusion here more so is the
fact that you weren't to where it was for sale.
You've accepted and received these goods on the premise that
(15:34):
they were given to your friend as a gift, and
as a result of that, you've assumed that you would
also have the benefit of someone's generosity.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Yes, I'll quote The Castle a court based movie.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's just the vibe, you know, just the vibe the
law of bloody common sense.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Right right, Well, that doesn't hold up in a court
of war, you know. I just I just killed people
because it was the vibe.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He's speaking over dutchdowns speaking over.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Yet the mars.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Getting very messy here, So I'm going to pull you
both back. So I just want to know what do
you want me to do today? I'll start with mister Coombs,
what do you want me to do today? Why have
you brought this to me today?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Well, the emotional just.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Stress that I've endured as a result of this and also,
I am a freelancer. I don't have a steady wage
like you, so I'm very out of pocket.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I'd like it to be reimbursed.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Because it's not lost to be reimbursed the eight hundred dollars.
It's the eight hundred because he's not actually out of
pocket by then, because he didn't pay for the equipment
in the first place.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I've just gone back because there's quite a few sales,
all very well priced, and I'm going through my five
star reviews. Nice man love his radio show. I think
it's one awards. That's just the feedback on my profile.
Here we go road caster pro for sale, Redfern, New
South Wales, nine nine nine right right, shipping offered so
I was willing to shore. Sorry, Mitchell, I can show you.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well that was free shipping. You've shipped it to Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Correct, very good point.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That was free shipping.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
It said, sorry, you're charging them way less than me. No,
I wasn't charging them less than you. No, it's nine
nine nine and I charged you eight. And it was
being deleted. Judge, but you can see here if I
hold it up to the court of.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
War, I'd like you to read it to me. Please,
road cast.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
To pro description. Hi there, I'm selling my barely used
road cast pro used for radio productions based in Sydney,
looking for a new home. Need money for ice cream,
and then that's it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Okay, So, mister Coombs, so you've never seen that? Have
you seen that ad before today?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I've just laid eyes on it for the first time,
and none of that is written in it.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Did you know you were getting a discount? Did you
know that the eight hundred dollars was less than the
asking price?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Had that?
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Well, that was one thing that he did point out
to me when I said.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You're going to charge me, and he goes, yeah, i'll
charge you. Lets you know how much I could be
for this on gum trick.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Okay, I've heard enough. I'm going to deliberate.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Mitch Coombs, you are seeking eight hundred dollars from Mitch Jury.
You do not believe you should have to pay for
the road procaster too, as it was gifted to Mitchjury
and there was no discussion of payment when he gave
it to you. I'm going to make an order in
favor of mister Koomb's for eight hundred dollars nothing further.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm absolutely stoked with today's outcome. There was a while
there where I really didn't think it was going to
go my way. I didn't think I had any legs
to stand on. I thought that in the eyes of
the law, I was screwed.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
But here we are.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Common sense prevailed and I knew I could rely on
Judge Gina for common sense.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I feel devastated and completely gutted.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I think this trial will affect my relationship with Mitch
going forward in a good way, because after this, he
will know that I can't BETWI.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Look, I don't really feel this will effect my relationship
with Mitchell Coombs. Believe it or not, we have had
blow ups bigger than this. I feel the disagreement has
been buried once and for all, like I wanted. That
is the one outcome of this situation that I am
happy with.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
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