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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Friends are our chosen family, but that doesn't mean it's
always smooth sailing between two pals. When you need a
friendship fight resolved once and for all, you come to
my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and my decision is final.
You better be ready to hear my ruling.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Sometimes working with a mate can be the death of
a relationship. Louis has brought rooms to Judge Gina seeking
recompense for a mis rehearsal of their critically acclaimed comedy
show Besties. Louis is seeking one thousand dollars due to
waste time. Can their friendship survive the business we call show.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
My full name is Lewis Oscarhansen. You might know me
by Louis, and you know me potentially from the Internet
or from some articles that I've written online, or from
just being an icon in general. I have come to
Judge Gina because I'm feeling really betrayed by a best friend.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
My name is Licinda Price aka Froomes. You would know
me from the Flex and Froom show on Kata or
on Instagram. So Louis is one of my best friends.
We've known each other for about four or five years.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We had one final in person rehearsal the week before
our in Hindsight critically acclaimed Melbourne Comedy Festival shows, and
I received a text from Miss Lisinda Frum's Price informing
me that she had been on a bender the night
before and hadn't slept, so we didn't end up having
the rehearsal, and I was really upset by that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Today I am counteres seing Louis for sixty nine sixty
nine do without what you will, just for having my
reputation dragged through the mud.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Really so, I have come here today for no other
reason than to get one thousand dollar. Cost of living
is high, and I went through some distress when Lucinda
ditched that Rehanaisal.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Court is now in session. Please rise the judge. Gina.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, Louis and Lucinda, Yes, okay. You to your friends,
I understand bestie's bestie's besties. How do you know each other?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
We met when we worked at the same media publication,
probably about four years ago. Now instantly there was a connection.
We were like kindred spirits and we've been so close
ever since.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yes, we were both writers and presenters, and so we
bonded over the trauma.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Of writing and presenting. You've bonded over the trauma of
writing and presenting. Yes, okay, you're currently working together.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We did some recently for Melbourne Comedy Festival and Sydney
Comedy Festival, and I would say this is the first
project in quite a few years that we've done together.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So you're both comedians. Tell me a joke, make me laugh.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What's green and has wheels? I don't know, grass I
lied about the wheels.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Right, Okay, Well, if you lie in this court, you're
not going to get very far right. Tell me a
proper joke my dating life. Oh that's the joke, you're
dating life. Okay, you've summed it up.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
There, you go, thank you?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
All right. Okay, So Louie's actually asking for one thousand
dollars as a victim of being dogged by his best
de resulting in emotional turmoil and subsequent distraction from what
should have been your focus on being an icon is
your description? Okay, you have to focus on that. Okay, Well,
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we hope it just comes naturally, but in any event.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It was there a sentence after that said judge Jenny
would understand, as she herself is an icon.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
No, that doesn't say that included. No, I think that was.
It was deliberately omitted, actually, because I don't need your flattery.
So how did you quantify one thousand dollars?
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Just like a really impressive clean number?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Okay, well can you tell me why I would be
compelled to agree to that?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Because I just felt like I experienced so much distress
following the incident, distress that I didn't need in the
lead up.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
No, but explain what that looks like. What do you
mean by distress? Okay, you say that you were upset
and on the day and that you felt like you
were dogged by your friend, but the show went ahead
and you didn't suffer any difficulties. Ultimately with the show,
you've got stellar reviews from the Age.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
It was critically acclaimed.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I have had a look over your application, Louis, and
it says he that you were meant to have a
final rehearsal on the Sunday prior to the commencement of
your Melbourne Comedy Festival shows, and Lucinda texted you at
seven am saying that she hadn't slept all night and
that she wouldn't be making it to the rehearsal. I
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wouldn't be laughing. Does that sound right? Louis at your
side of the story, correct, Judge Jenna, How did that
make you feel? And what was the issue there? Why
couldn't you rehearse another time? Why was it only Sunday
morning or Sunday?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So Lucinda was going to fly back to Sydney later
that day. So I'm Melbourne based, Lucinda Sydney based, and
this was the final in person rehearsal before Lucinda then
flew back to Sydney and then she would come down
again and we would do the shows. So I considered
this our last in person rehearsal right before the shows.
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So it was an important one to me.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, And you are you employed by anyone or this
is just something you do independently? Are you paid for Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I would just say we're kind of like full time icons,
so no, this is literally just us doing things.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, but you got paid for the show?
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Did you suffer any loss as a result of not
having that rehearsal?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
What was it?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Emotionally?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I went through some emotional turmoil I felt as though
Lucinda had prioritized potential suitor over the Besties performances at
Melbourne Comedy Festival. That made me feel upset, and it
also meant that I was distructed from putting in the
hours to rehearse for the show, you know, in those
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last final hours of rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So you can't rehearse on your own.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Obviously, we rely on each other. We bounce off each other.
It's essentially one hour sleepover where we walk onto stage
and it just this back and forth ensues. It's very conversational.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And is it scripted or is it something that you
add lib At the time.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I would say, we have an idea of the general
stories that we want to towel, but the majority of
the hour is ad lib.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Okay. So when you had done the two rehearsals, they
were both in Melbourne, and Lucinda had flown down to
Melbourne for those correct and she'd flown down to Melbourne
on this occasion for the third rehearsal and hadn't turned.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Up on my own dime, miss judged Gina.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So it's cost you money to fly down here. But
clearly you recognized that there was a necessity for a rehearsal.
You've even put your hand in your pocket and paid
for it. Is that right? You recognized that you would
benefit from a third rehearsal. Some would say, would you say,
do you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Next? No comment?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
No, no, you'll need to answer that question. You're not
at the police station being interrogated. You're in a court,
so you need to tell me did you do you
agree that you were flying down to Melbourne for the
purpose of a rehearsal.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I was flying down to Melbourne for the purpose of
two rehearsals, not three.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh, so what you're saying is Louis got it wrong.
You were in Melbourne, but you weren't there for a rehearsal.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
That is scandalous.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't believe you. Why did you text him at
seven o'clock in the morning to say that you couldn't
make it to the rehearsal. Why would you text someone
at seven o'clock in the morning and say I'm not
going to make it to something that If you tell
me you weren't here for that purpose, well, Gina, I.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Think we need to look the receipts because I didn't
say that. I couldn't make it. Actually, there's some evidence
here that needs to be witnessed by you.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well, no, I want you to tell me first.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
So I went out on the Saturday night. I'd met
a man on the Friday night, and I thought, I'm
only in Melbourne for a few nights. Need to take
opportunities as they come. As a girl boss.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
You never know when they're going to not be there.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
That feels like a dig. So yes, I decided I
will go out and have a drink with this gentleman,
which I did as I want to do as a
young red blooded female, warm blooded female, and it turned
into quite a large night. As I said, I didn't sleep.
I sent Louis a message and it is time stamped
at seven or six am to be precise, Sunday.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
What do you say happened?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I say that I informed Louis that I had not slept.
When Sunday, the morning of morning of the rehearsal. What
time was the rehearsal scheduled for? It was not scheduled, Louis.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What time was the rehearsal scheduled for?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
We had this general consensus that it would be late afternoon.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
At some point I object.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
What time was you flight out back to Sydney.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
My flight out to Sydney was one pm.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Okay, Gina.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
The rehearsal had not been scheduled. It was a loose plan.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, what was the loose plan?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
In my mind? The plan was for us to meet
at ten apam ten am and rehearsal one hour before
I jetted off from Saint Kilda to the airport. Takes
roughly one hour on a good day. We were going
to meet at my house. I didn't say that we
couldn't meet. I said, however, that I had not slept.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Were you just bragging about the night before? What was
the purpose of letting him know that.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
A bit of both, your honor, I was bragging, if
I'm being real honest, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So Louis, what did you say immediately? It put me
in the foulest mood of all time?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, I couldn't understand you were left in the lurch
and that you had a really significant performance. Three of
them actually, and they do say failing to prepare is
preparing to fail, exactly.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Right, your honor.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I'm like, not even an lie. I'm gonna put my
hands up. I was a bit sassy, a bit juty
over the text, kind of just like shutting it down,
like it's fine, it's fine, because usually I'm quite an
expressive texter. Straight away, Luciner was like, okay, something was up.
So Lucinda then calls me and he's like, girl, like
what's going on? And I was just like, listener, I'm
gonna be honest with you. I'm just I'm a bit
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disappointed in your behavior, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
And then well.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Then I feel like Lucinda was kind of like, oh,
but you can still come over, and I was like, girl,
you literally haven't slept, and like, what are we going
to do?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, you just felt that it would be a waste
of your time to go there. I mean, I don't
know what she's been up to, but I'm guessing all
night something kept her awake all night and on that basis, so,
I mean, at some point she's going to want to sleep.
What's the point of you taking the effort to go
all the way there.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Usually I'm a bit of a party gal, but I
had stayed inside all weekend, prioritized the show over my
social life, even though I was craving a night out
on the town.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So in anticipation of the rehearsal. You were a good
girl and you stayed.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Home completely judged Gina.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right, So you didn't quite have the same opportunities coming
your ways as Lucinda may have had.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Is that well, you could say I had sparser opportunities
than Lucinda. Yes, of that weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So basically what you're telling me is, for the sake
of a bit of romance, you'll ditch your friend. So
that'd be right. I need all audio because we have
an audience who can't see Louis what that expression means.
So if you can verbalize it so for the transcript,
we can record it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I just gestured in a very exasperated manner in agreement
with you.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Okay, Lucinda, what do you say about that?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well, Louis was supposed to come to my house and
I sent him this photo. Gina, Well, I don't know
what that is.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Can you describe it? What's that you sleeping? I don't
want to see that?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
What is that you showing me how tired you are?
What is that at seven oh six am? Or is
that just so the easy?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
That's Lucinda stumbling away from her potential suitors as the
sun is rising.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I was simply putting a face to a name and
letting Louis know that I was awake and that I
was on foot, and I said, it's giving. I haven't slept. Call.
Do you want to come over at like twelve for
a good solid hour? I really cooked it last night,
but it was for a good cause.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well that doesn't sound right because your flight was at one,
and as far as I'm aware, you need to beat
the airport forty five minutes before that. So I don't
think twelve o'clock's going to be an invitation for anybody
other than to help you to the car with your luggage.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Your mind is that powerful year on Earth.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Kissarsing doesn't give you points, Lui, okay, so that's not
a plan.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
This was the Sunday before the first show on the
twenty eighth of April.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Is that right correct?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And what day is the twenty eighth of April. I'm
just checking. It was a Friday, Friday, so you didn't
have time between then and Friday to have another rehearsal.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
We did. We had it over Zoom.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, that was my next question. So you did have
a rehearsal over Zoom. Many actually yes, okay, when was that?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I would say that was on Tuesday night, and then
I returned to Melbourne on the Thursday. We had a
rehearsal all day Thursday. We then had a rehearsal morning
off the show on Friday, and then again Friday afternoon,
and so multiple rehearsals.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sounds to me like you would have had those multiple
rehearsals in any event, and that, in actual fact, Sunday
wasn't your final opportunity, like you've said, that's what you've
said to me, Louis, that that was your last chance, okay,
face to face. But I mean, come on, we've all
come out of lockdown and everybody's done everything remotely for
a long time. I think we've sort of got our
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head around doing things.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Reminds I'm just something about the vibe of being in person.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I did feel like it was our final chance, because
let's be honest, the next time we're going to see
each other was like the day before the show, and
by then, like you know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I get it, I'll get to frames. You're candasuing Louis
for six hundred and ninety six dollars and ninety cents
for the Sunday. Is it scaries, Yes, induced by feeling
like a flaky friend when in actual fact you were
getting does it say near it getting near it your
honor as research for the show?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Right? So did you did that rendezvous that encounter form
part of your your repertoire at the.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Show, both directly and indirectly. Definitely? It gave me a
lust for life that really came across on stage and
also provides me.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Seven a week later, a week later, you were still.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, Gina, I go for long, long stretches.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Okay, So you say that you want to count Sue
Louis for six How did you quantify six hundred ninety
six dollars and ninety cents with I just want to
know about how you even got to ninety cents?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
So go and tell me what's the sixth.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Ninety six, ninety nine sixty nine or sixty nine sixty nine?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Ik? There you go. That's what you're asking.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Are you familiar, Gina?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well no, not formiliar, but I know what you're talking about.
So that's just you being a little bit crass. Okay,
I don't think that just throwing a sixty nine and
sixty nine is going to cut it in my court.
I don't think that that's actually a quantification for anything
other than just another opportunity for you to be a
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little bit and crass. So has anything like this happened
before where either of you have let each other down
or you know you've been distracted in any way?
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Well, Gina, I would say, I've been single for quite
a long time now, and I believe that in the
Maslow hierarchy of needs the shelter, air, water, and also
physical touch, and so when opportunities are presented for me,
I need to take those opportunities. And at times I
have felt like Louis has dare I say in court,
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cock blocks me?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Right, Okay, well we won't use that terminologies me. We're
not going to use that language. I think you just
preoccupied with something and you have to clear your mind
and get focused.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
We are both single and ravenous and ravenue.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
At the moment, ravenous, your honor. The table in the
studio looks like a penis and bulls, and so it's.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Actually I will agree with plaintive frames that we are
currently sitting on quite a phallicked table.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Right, Okay, this is very much a distraction from the
question that I asked, which is, has this ever happened
before where either of you have let each other down?
And somehow you've snuck in a cock block and a
table that looks like a penis intestical. So I'm actually
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not sure who I'm talking to going on. Pull this
right back. I mean, I don't know what Jenitale you've
seen in your life, but I've got three dogs, two sons,
and I've been married twice, so I think I've had
a pretty good run of different genitalia and that does
not look anything like what you're talking about. Okay, I've
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heard enough. I'm going to deliberate.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
All right. So, to sum it up, Louis is suing
Lacinda for negligence after she ditched a rehearsal for a
love interest. Then we've got rooms. She would like to
counterclaim six hundred and ninety six dollars and ninety cents.
I'm going to reject the counterclaim of six hundred and
ninety six dollars the claim of one thousand dollars. I'm
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going to deny on the basis that the performance went ahead,
there were multiple rehearsals, and that at the end of
the day, you should understand that your friends do what
they do, and really you just have to accept that
if you have a single girl who's dedicated to her
career but likes to be a girl boss and go
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out that unfortunately, that's what she might be doing. So
that's my decision and its final.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I feel horrific about today's outcome. I really came in
to this court case with my eyes on the prize
and that was a cute, clean, sexy number. One thousand dollars.
I feel like one thousand dollars is really the apt
figure to counteract for the fact that I went through
emotional turmoil.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I believe that our disagreement has been settled for once
and for all.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I thought that Judge Gina was quite fair, albeit intimidating
at times, but I.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Truly love that for her. She is an icon. She
is amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I think it's good for Louis to have somewhere to
air his feelings and having someone like Judge Gina as
a mediator is a blessing. So I think we should
be very, very thankful for today's experience and what has
transpired here.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I think we're going to be fine. I think our
relationship is going to be fine from here. She is
a real one through and through and I love that girl.
I just wanted money. I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
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