September 17, 2023 • 17 mins
There’s no love lost between Married At First Sight’s Michael Brunelli and Love Island’s Josh Moss after a series of avoidable travel mistakes. Michael has come before Judge Gina seeking a public apology from Josh for the expensive mishaps.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leono.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
People are delusional, so is it any surprise that the
world is filled with fights, disputes and petty grievances. When
you've had enough and Nita Rowse settled once and for all,
you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and
my decision is final.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
They say it's best to catch flights, not feelings, but
the two dating show alarm in Judge Gina's courtroom today
seem unable to do either. Michael Brunelli has brought Josh
Moss to Judge Gina after he made a series of
careless mistakes on travel bookings. Michael is seeking a public
apology from Josh as compensation.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
My name is Michael Brenelli and I am a co
host on The Bags podcast. I have come to Judge
Gina today to settle a beef with my podcast co host,
Josh Moss, who is blaming me for a mistake that
he made with flights.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
My name is Josh Moss.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I've come to Judge Gina today to solve a deep
rooted problem in me and Michael's relationship.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Josh and I have known each other for around two years.
We are quite good friends, but we do have disagreements
at times.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I want to fare an even trial and all the
relevant information presented, and I want a totally non biased verdict.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What I want out of today is the truth. I
want Judge Gina to prove to Josh that I am
right in this situation that he needs to take responsibility
for his mistake.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Court is now in session. Please rise the Judge Gina.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Michael Brunelli, why are you in my courtroom today?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
My beef is with Josh Moss, my podcast co host,
and it's got to do with a flight from Sydney
to Melbourne. He booked a flight to Avalon Airport when
he was meant to be going to Tullmarine. And as
you know, there are two airports in Melbourne. Avalon is
(02:19):
out near Geelong. I'm near the city where marine. Yes,
I told him that I was going to pick him
up from the airport. When I texted him and I
said where are you, I'm on my way. He said,
I'm an Avalon airport.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So you went to Avalon.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I did not go to Avalon. I made the executive
decision that that would be too far from me to
go Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So he told you he was at Avalon Airport and
you decided not to go.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So he is blaming me for his mistaken airport arrival.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, and what does that equate to? How can I
help you?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I would like you to show him to open his
eyes to see that he is at fault here. He's
an adult, he booked his own flight. He should have
known which airport he was going to and where it
was located.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But he did tell you he was at Avalon. So
what's the issue?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
My issue is that I'm getting blamed.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, And what do you want me to do?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
What I would like is a public apology from Josh
Moss posted on our Handbags Instagram page, our podcast page.
And I would also, just as a kicker, as a
little bit of a lesson here, I would like him
to post one of his photo shoot photos that he
took a few years ago, which are quite provocative. Personally,
(03:30):
I think he looks amazing in them, but he doesn't
feel the same, and I'd like him to post that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay. So does the public know what he's apologizing about
or do we have to tell the public the whole story?
And then there's an apology. That makes sense because otherwise
you're going in mid sentence telling the audience something that
they don't know about.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Depends how you define public.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, how do you define public?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I define our public as the people that know us
and our social media following.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Raise see you on your podcast? Okay? And if you
had a vote from your viewers or anything like that,
we have and what do they say?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
The vote was titled whose fault is it? And the
vote came out seventy percent Josh and thirty percent Michael.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
This is out of how many people who? How many
people were polled?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I can find that out for you.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, you need to know is it more than three?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It is more than three? I don't have the exact numb.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So you want an apology on handbags and your Instagram page,
and you also want you want Josh to post a
photo from a photo shoot from when.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
From I'd say four or five years ago on.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Your Instagram page? Which one. I'm sure there's been photos,
many photos from four or five years ago, and multiple photo.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Shoots that he does, like a photo shoot the one
I'm talking about in particular, and Josh would know this,
but I'll explain to you is a photo shoot that
he took in his underwear. Personally, I think the amazing
photos and he hasn't allowed me to post them before.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Right, and you want the permission to do that, correct,
as part of your compensation.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
For him blaming me for him catching an.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Uber from Avalon because you wouldn't travel there because you
live closer to Tullamarine.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Because I wasn't able to travel there within my schedule.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Oh it's changed now, No.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I want to hear from you NW Josh go on.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
So when I organized to come down to Melbourne, your honor,
I hadn't been to Melbourne in years, so long this happened.
This has happened about seven months ago, thisent. I hadn't
been to Melbourne about fifteen years before that. Okay, So
I'm a Sydney boy through and through. I organized to
come down to Melbourne out of the goodwill of my
heart to record an episode. Michael didn't come to Sydney.
(05:44):
I came down to Melbourne to help out.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And where do you normally record?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
We were recording at Sydney at the time, and then
Michael picked up and moved to Melbourne, and so you
were living in Sydney.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I was living in Sydney at the time we started
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yet, okay, and where do you called the podcast? Now?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We either record Melbourne Sydney depending on where one of
us are or remotely.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, so one of you can be in Sydney, one
can be in Melbourne. Okay, So go on.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
And I booked a flight down to Melbourne, and I
saw that there was one that was slightly cheaper.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, and you know, times are taf your honor, And.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
It was a flight that was about eighty bucks cheaper,
and I decided to book it because I wanted to
book something and I had to get down cheaper than
what let's say that it was about eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Not quantity cheaper. So you're saying there were two options
to fly in, one into Tellermarine, one into Avalon. Yes,
and the one into Avalon was eighty dollars cheaper, and
you understood that one was a different suburb to the other.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
No, I thought it was different like wings of the
airport or something.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Right, Okay, yeah, yeah, I thought it was a bit daft,
wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
But go on, Oh, but like who has two airports
in this like so close proximity. Sydney only has one airport,
so booked the flight. Michael had agreed to pick me
up and landed from.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Just from the airport. No which airport though, well, he
didn't specify whatever you needed.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
To specify, Well, not him, because you're the one flying in.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So if I say I'm going to dinner Darling, can
you pick me up? And he thinks Darling is a
restaurant and I'm not at Darling, then it's my fault, really,
isn't it, Because I should have said where?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But what if you did?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You say where?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I said I was going to Melbourne, getting the flight
down to Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Melbourne, okay, but there is you know, Avalon's in Geelong.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, but you certainly knew when you landed because you
were not in Melbourne.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
No, when I landed.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
It all looks the same, okay, go on, because as
I said, I hadn't been in Melbourne since I was.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Okay, So you rang him from where the airport or
you told him before you left.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
When the plane landed, I thought I'd give him a
lot of notice and I said, hey mate, I'm landing.
I'll probably be twenty minutes until I get out of
the airport. Can you please pick me up? And he said, yep,
I'll come now. He goes, whereabouts A you gu I've
just landed in Avalon?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Okay, so you told him Avalon there? I told him
Avalon then and he said what he said? You're fing
kidding me. You did not land in Avalon. You're an
absolute idiot. That's not where you should be landing.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Okay, and what did you say?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I was offended at first, and then I said, Michael,
can you pick me up? I may have you know,
I'm an Avalon. I don't know what that means, but
I'm here. And then he said I'm not picking you
up and I said why and he goes, because you've
gone to the wrong airport.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I'm too busy to pick you up. You can get
your own way there.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Keeping in mind, the uber was about one hundred and
eighty dollars, was it? So the eighty dollars I saved
on the flight, I could have flown business class.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So it cost you one hundred and eighty dollars in
an uber? Yes, okay, what are you after?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I want Michael to post on the Handbags page yep,
that he apologizes forever doubting my intelligence and that he
openly admits that I'm the smarter handbag, and then he
says that's not up for debate anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What's not up for debate now?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Who's smarter?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well that's almost self explanatory, isn't it. If someone's trying
to get an admission like that, that automatically confirms who
the daft one is, doesn't it. I would think if
I'm chasing someone to validate how smart I was, that
I would be the daft one.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Intelligence is in the eye of the beholder.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I thought that was beauty?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, I can.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I like to intelligence is in the eye of the IQ,
I'd say, so, I want to know what you're claiming.
So you just want Michael to post apology for ever
doubting and admitting you're smarter?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yes, and and I want Michael to post I want
Michael to Is that your compensation, Michael? I want Michael
to get me a massage.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Voutcher, a massage voucher to value.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Eighty dollars because I was very stressed in this situation.
I feel like a massage would calm me down.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Message voucher for eighty dollars and you one hundred and
eighty dollars for the uber. Are you claiming that?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
No, I won't claim that.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Okay, may I say something?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yes, you can go on.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So I've got more evidence, just I wanted to show
you this is not a one off sort evidence or
more of a story. I've got a story with evidence.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Okay, go along with it, all right, I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So after we recorded the podcast on Friday, the fifth
of August, Okay, Josh was at my house. He was
getting in an uber too Avalon Airport to fly back
to Sydney. I received a text from Josh aroundabouts an
hour later saying I've gone to the wrong airport.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Being where did you go?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Avalon?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
But you just told me he had to return flight
to Avalon. So so he went to Avalon. Oh he
made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
The second mistake, yes, okay, So he was actually leaving
from Tullamarine.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So you flew into Avalon and you were departing via
Tallomarine to Sydney, but you thought you had to go
back to Avalon. I think that's a valid mistake. Most
people think they're flying in and out of the same place.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I think if you've made an error on your I
need you to think, my person, that's my job today
is to think that you should check your return flight
if you've made a mistake on the inbound flight.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just he didn't make a mistake.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
He did he flew to the wrong airport.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, he didn't. He flew to Avalon. It was a
wrong airport for you, okay. So and then he fixed
the problem by catching an uber and you let him
do that, okay. So, Josh, you've gone back to Avalon, yeh,
thinking you're flying back? And how did you get to Avalon?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I got another uber?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, so another one hundred and eighty dollars? Yeah, the
three hundred and sixty dollars? Yeah, okay. And so then
you were meant to be at Tallamarine. How did you
get from Avalon to Tallomarine?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I had to get another uber? How much was that
one hundred and eighty dollars?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So it's another one hundred and eighty three sixty plus
one eighty? Who's got quick math? Five forty? But you
don't want to claim that, h okay? That one so
five point forty and not that he would necessarily be
responsible or liable for your stupidity, if that's what you
would call it, And I probably couldn't think of a
better word than stupidity, your mistake, I should say so.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The following day, yes, Josh was scheduled to fly out
to Spain for work. Yeah from Sydney, and I received
a text message saying, dude, I didn't even tell you
I missed my flight to Spain. He said, I had
a few too many drinks at Sydney Airport.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So why is this relevant?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Just to show you with Josh in flying that he's
the smarter one, Mistakes that are made.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So he's saying that you're not the smarter one, and
that he can't admit that you're the smarter one because
he's actually got evidence that you certainly not.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But he doesn't know about the situation in Sydney Airport.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
What was that?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
So Sydney Airport's become a quiet airport after COVID quite Yeah,
they don't do announcements anymore. The safety blanket of them
calling your name out, which I've always had, has it's changed.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So you rely on the call.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well, it's there as a safety blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You're at Sydney airport. You've had a few too many drinks.
What did you fall asleep?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
No? No, no, oh, you.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Just didn't check the time you were hoping, they would say,
mister moss Gate forty five.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yes, I thought that was always a last resort safety k.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And is it something you would normally rely on?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, okay, so this is wearing thinner and thinner, this
little post apology post. Okay, so you want a public
apology from him on handbags.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Because he was blaming me for to blame flying into Avalon.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Why are you blaming him for flying into Avalon?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Well, if I was in Michael's shoes and I knew
that someone hadn't been to Melbourne for a long time,
I would just say friendly reminder, you know, makes you
go to right airport? Like if if me and you
were at the beach Gina, I would say friendly reminder sunscreen,
We've got to protect ourselves from the sun.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Like just a gentle reminder.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, sorry, were you flying to Melbourne or Geelong? That's
the question, all right, So Michael, you wanted a public
apology on handbags for Josh blaming you for flying into Avalon. Correct,
And you've you've run the polls. Seventy percent think Josh
is to blame. What do you think about that? Do
(13:53):
you think that's fair enough?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Tell me why I need to be persuaded, because I'm not.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
How do we know the quality of the thinking of
the vote?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I want to know what do you think if seventy
percent believe you are to blame for your own error?
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
No? I believe if I can.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You don't think you're responsible for your own error?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
No? No, I don't. Okay, I'm really standing by that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, And what about you, Michael?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I feel Josh is responsible for his own error, much
like the eleven hundred people that's voted in.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Eleven hundred people.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yes, as you can see by the evidence on Instagram. Legitimate.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, I'm not sure I'm buying that one. All Right,
I've heard enough. I'm just going to take a moment
to deliberate, and I will come back with my decision.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So, Michael, your claim today is that you would like
a pubublic apology on handbags your podcast for Josh blaming
you for flying into Avalon Airport. And you'd also like
him to post a shot from a photo shoot from
about four or five years ago where he's in his
underwear on the Instagram page for your Handbag podcast. Now, Josh,
(15:18):
what you would like to happen today is you're not
claiming any money or the compensation for any of you ubers.
But what you would like is for Michael to post
an apology for ever doubting your intelligence, and you would
like him to admit that you are the smarter out
of the two of you. And you'd also like a
massart voucher for eighty dollars. So Josh, all right, So
(15:43):
my decision is that Josh, you will need to make
a public apology on Handbags for blaming Michael for flying
into Avalon. In terms of posting a photo from a
photo shoot four or five years ago, I say that
that is entirely irrelevant and does not amount to any
(16:06):
form of compensation or retribution. So that's denied.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
I'm feeling a little bit disappointed about today's outcome. I
feel like there was a little bit of magic dust
sprayed by Michael on Gina, and I'm bitterly disappointed.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I feel great about today's outcome. I feel like the
truth is out there. Gina was on my side, and
Josh can finally admit that he was at fault in
this situation.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I don't think that I got a fair trial.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I think that Michael has incorporated some sort of hypnotism
or some sort of word trickery to get Gina to
come on his side.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I was concerned at the start of the trial. I
felt like I was being grilled, but towards the end
I could see Judge Gina. She was starting to come
around understand where I was coming from, and I feel
she made the right decision in the end. Although I
would have really liked to post a photo shoot of Josh.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
I don't think that our disagreement has been settled once
and for all. I feel like we may need a
retrial and get some new information brought up.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I don't think this will have a large effect on
my relationship with Josh. He's been wrong many times before
and he's been able to own up to it. It's
just another one of those situations where he has to
get rid of that ego and understand that he did
make the wrong decision and he has to be responsible
for that. We'll go on as being friends.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
This will definitely affect my relationship with Michael. I just
don't know if I can trust him anymore. I don't
know where we go to from here, and there's going
to be a lot of sleepless nights.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
This has been an iHeart production.
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leono.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
People are delusional, so is it any surprise that the
world is filled with fights, disputes and petty grievances. When
you've had enough and Nita Rowse settled once and for all,
you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and
my decision is final.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
They say it's best to catch flights, not feelings, but
the two dating show alarm in Judge Gina's courtroom today
seem unable to do either. Michael Brunelli has brought Josh
Moss to Judge Gina after he made a series of
careless mistakes on travel bookings. Michael is seeking a public
apology from Josh as compensation.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
My name is Michael Brenelli and I am a co
host on The Bags podcast. I have come to Judge
Gina today to settle a beef with my podcast co host,
Josh Moss, who is blaming me for a mistake that
he made with flights.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
My name is Josh Moss.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I've come to Judge Gina today to solve a deep
rooted problem in me and Michael's relationship.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Josh and I have known each other for around two years.
We are quite good friends, but we do have disagreements
at times.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I want to fare an even trial and all the
relevant information presented, and I want a totally non biased verdict.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What I want out of today is the truth. I
want Judge Gina to prove to Josh that I am
right in this situation that he needs to take responsibility
for his mistake.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Court is now in session. Please rise the Judge Gina.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Michael Brunelli, why are you in my courtroom today?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
My beef is with Josh Moss, my podcast co host,
and it's got to do with a flight from Sydney
to Melbourne. He booked a flight to Avalon Airport when
he was meant to be going to Tullmarine. And as
you know, there are two airports in Melbourne. Avalon is
(02:19):
out near Geelong. I'm near the city where marine. Yes,
I told him that I was going to pick him
up from the airport. When I texted him and I
said where are you, I'm on my way. He said,
I'm an Avalon airport.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So you went to Avalon.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I did not go to Avalon. I made the executive
decision that that would be too far from me to
go Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So he told you he was at Avalon Airport and
you decided not to go.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So he is blaming me for his mistaken airport arrival.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, and what does that equate to? How can I
help you?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I would like you to show him to open his
eyes to see that he is at fault here. He's
an adult, he booked his own flight. He should have
known which airport he was going to and where it
was located.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But he did tell you he was at Avalon. So
what's the issue?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
My issue is that I'm getting blamed.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Okay, And what do you want me to do?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
What I would like is a public apology from Josh
Moss posted on our Handbags Instagram page, our podcast page.
And I would also, just as a kicker, as a
little bit of a lesson here, I would like him
to post one of his photo shoot photos that he
took a few years ago, which are quite provocative. Personally,
(03:30):
I think he looks amazing in them, but he doesn't
feel the same, and I'd like him to post that.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay. So does the public know what he's apologizing about
or do we have to tell the public the whole story?
And then there's an apology. That makes sense because otherwise
you're going in mid sentence telling the audience something that
they don't know about.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Depends how you define public.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, how do you define public?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I define our public as the people that know us
and our social media following.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Raise see you on your podcast? Okay? And if you
had a vote from your viewers or anything like that,
we have and what do they say?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
The vote was titled whose fault is it? And the
vote came out seventy percent Josh and thirty percent Michael.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
This is out of how many people who? How many
people were polled?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I can find that out for you.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, you need to know is it more than three?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
It is more than three? I don't have the exact numb.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So you want an apology on handbags and your Instagram page,
and you also want you want Josh to post a
photo from a photo shoot from when.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
From I'd say four or five years ago on.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Your Instagram page? Which one. I'm sure there's been photos,
many photos from four or five years ago, and multiple photo.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Shoots that he does, like a photo shoot the one
I'm talking about in particular, and Josh would know this,
but I'll explain to you is a photo shoot that
he took in his underwear. Personally, I think the amazing
photos and he hasn't allowed me to post them before.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Right, and you want the permission to do that, correct,
as part of your compensation.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
For him blaming me for him catching an.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Uber from Avalon because you wouldn't travel there because you
live closer to Tullamarine.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Because I wasn't able to travel there within my schedule.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Oh it's changed now, No.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So I want to hear from you NW Josh go on.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
So when I organized to come down to Melbourne, your honor,
I hadn't been to Melbourne in years, so long this happened.
This has happened about seven months ago, thisent. I hadn't
been to Melbourne about fifteen years before that. Okay, So
I'm a Sydney boy through and through. I organized to
come down to Melbourne out of the goodwill of my
heart to record an episode. Michael didn't come to Sydney.
(05:44):
I came down to Melbourne to help out.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And where do you normally record?
Speaker 6 (05:49):
We were recording at Sydney at the time, and then
Michael picked up and moved to Melbourne, and so you
were living in Sydney.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I was living in Sydney at the time we started
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yet, okay, and where do you called the podcast? Now?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We either record Melbourne Sydney depending on where one of
us are or remotely.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, so one of you can be in Sydney, one
can be in Melbourne. Okay, So go on.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
And I booked a flight down to Melbourne, and I
saw that there was one that was slightly cheaper.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, and you know, times are taf your honor, And.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
It was a flight that was about eighty bucks cheaper,
and I decided to book it because I wanted to
book something and I had to get down cheaper than
what let's say that it was about eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Not quantity cheaper. So you're saying there were two options
to fly in, one into Tellermarine, one into Avalon. Yes,
and the one into Avalon was eighty dollars cheaper, and
you understood that one was a different suburb to the other.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
No, I thought it was different like wings of the
airport or something.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Right, Okay, yeah, yeah, I thought it was a bit daft,
wasn't it.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
But go on, Oh, but like who has two airports
in this like so close proximity. Sydney only has one airport,
so booked the flight. Michael had agreed to pick me
up and landed from.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Just from the airport. No which airport though, well, he
didn't specify whatever you needed.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
To specify, Well, not him, because you're the one flying in.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So if I say I'm going to dinner Darling, can
you pick me up? And he thinks Darling is a
restaurant and I'm not at Darling, then it's my fault, really,
isn't it, Because I should have said where?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
But what if you did?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You say where?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I said I was going to Melbourne, getting the flight
down to Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Melbourne, okay, but there is you know, Avalon's in Geelong.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Okay, but you certainly knew when you landed because you
were not in Melbourne.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
No, when I landed.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
It all looks the same, okay, go on, because as
I said, I hadn't been in Melbourne since I was.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Okay, So you rang him from where the airport or
you told him before you left.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
When the plane landed, I thought I'd give him a
lot of notice and I said, hey mate, I'm landing.
I'll probably be twenty minutes until I get out of
the airport. Can you please pick me up? And he said, yep,
I'll come now. He goes, whereabouts A you gu I've
just landed in Avalon?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Okay, so you told him Avalon there? I told him
Avalon then and he said what he said? You're fing
kidding me. You did not land in Avalon. You're an
absolute idiot. That's not where you should be landing.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Okay, and what did you say?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I was offended at first, and then I said, Michael,
can you pick me up? I may have you know,
I'm an Avalon. I don't know what that means, but
I'm here. And then he said I'm not picking you
up and I said why and he goes, because you've
gone to the wrong airport.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I'm too busy to pick you up. You can get
your own way there.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Keeping in mind, the uber was about one hundred and
eighty dollars, was it? So the eighty dollars I saved
on the flight, I could have flown business class.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So it cost you one hundred and eighty dollars in
an uber? Yes, okay, what are you after?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
I want Michael to post on the Handbags page yep,
that he apologizes forever doubting my intelligence and that he
openly admits that I'm the smarter handbag, and then he
says that's not up for debate anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What's not up for debate now?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Who's smarter?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well that's almost self explanatory, isn't it. If someone's trying
to get an admission like that, that automatically confirms who
the daft one is, doesn't it. I would think if
I'm chasing someone to validate how smart I was, that
I would be the daft one.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Intelligence is in the eye of the beholder.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I thought that was beauty?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, I can.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I like to intelligence is in the eye of the IQ,
I'd say, so, I want to know what you're claiming.
So you just want Michael to post apology for ever
doubting and admitting you're smarter?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yes, and and I want Michael to post I want
Michael to Is that your compensation, Michael? I want Michael
to get me a massage.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Voutcher, a massage voucher to value.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Eighty dollars because I was very stressed in this situation.
I feel like a massage would calm me down.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Message voucher for eighty dollars and you one hundred and
eighty dollars for the uber. Are you claiming that?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
No, I won't claim that.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Okay, may I say something?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yes, you can go on.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
So I've got more evidence, just I wanted to show
you this is not a one off sort evidence or
more of a story. I've got a story with evidence.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Okay, go along with it, all right, I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
So after we recorded the podcast on Friday, the fifth
of August, Okay, Josh was at my house. He was
getting in an uber too Avalon Airport to fly back
to Sydney. I received a text from Josh aroundabouts an
hour later saying I've gone to the wrong airport.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Being where did you go?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Avalon?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
But you just told me he had to return flight
to Avalon. So so he went to Avalon. Oh he
made a mistake.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
The second mistake, yes, okay, So he was actually leaving
from Tullamarine.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So you flew into Avalon and you were departing via
Tallomarine to Sydney, but you thought you had to go
back to Avalon. I think that's a valid mistake. Most
people think they're flying in and out of the same place.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I think if you've made an error on your I
need you to think, my person, that's my job today
is to think that you should check your return flight
if you've made a mistake on the inbound flight.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Just he didn't make a mistake.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
He did he flew to the wrong airport.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, he didn't. He flew to Avalon. It was a
wrong airport for you, okay. So and then he fixed
the problem by catching an uber and you let him
do that, okay. So, Josh, you've gone back to Avalon, yeh,
thinking you're flying back? And how did you get to Avalon?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I got another uber?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay, so another one hundred and eighty dollars? Yeah, the
three hundred and sixty dollars? Yeah, okay. And so then
you were meant to be at Tallamarine. How did you
get from Avalon to Tallomarine?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
I had to get another uber? How much was that
one hundred and eighty dollars?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
So it's another one hundred and eighty three sixty plus
one eighty? Who's got quick math? Five forty? But you
don't want to claim that, h okay? That one so
five point forty and not that he would necessarily be
responsible or liable for your stupidity, if that's what you
would call it, And I probably couldn't think of a
better word than stupidity, your mistake, I should say so.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The following day, yes, Josh was scheduled to fly out
to Spain for work. Yeah from Sydney, and I received
a text message saying, dude, I didn't even tell you
I missed my flight to Spain. He said, I had
a few too many drinks at Sydney Airport.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So why is this relevant?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Just to show you with Josh in flying that he's
the smarter one, Mistakes that are made.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So he's saying that you're not the smarter one, and
that he can't admit that you're the smarter one because
he's actually got evidence that you certainly not.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But he doesn't know about the situation in Sydney Airport.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
What was that?
Speaker 6 (12:22):
So Sydney Airport's become a quiet airport after COVID quite Yeah,
they don't do announcements anymore. The safety blanket of them
calling your name out, which I've always had, has it's changed.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So you rely on the call.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Well, it's there as a safety blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You're at Sydney airport. You've had a few too many drinks.
What did you fall asleep?
Speaker 5 (12:41):
No? No, no, oh, you.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Just didn't check the time you were hoping, they would say,
mister moss Gate forty five.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yes, I thought that was always a last resort safety k.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And is it something you would normally rely on?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, okay, so this is wearing thinner and thinner, this
little post apology post. Okay, so you want a public
apology from him on handbags.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Because he was blaming me for to blame flying into Avalon.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Why are you blaming him for flying into Avalon?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Well, if I was in Michael's shoes and I knew
that someone hadn't been to Melbourne for a long time,
I would just say friendly reminder, you know, makes you
go to right airport? Like if if me and you
were at the beach Gina, I would say friendly reminder sunscreen,
We've got to protect ourselves from the sun.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Like just a gentle reminder.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, sorry, were you flying to Melbourne or Geelong? That's
the question, all right, So Michael, you wanted a public
apology on handbags for Josh blaming you for flying into Avalon. Correct,
And you've you've run the polls. Seventy percent think Josh
is to blame. What do you think about that? Do
(13:53):
you think that's fair enough?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Tell me why I need to be persuaded, because I'm not.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
How do we know the quality of the thinking of
the vote?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I want to know what do you think if seventy
percent believe you are to blame for your own error?
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
No? I believe if I can.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You don't think you're responsible for your own error?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
No? No, I don't. Okay, I'm really standing by that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, And what about you, Michael?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I feel Josh is responsible for his own error, much
like the eleven hundred people that's voted in.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Eleven hundred people.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yes, as you can see by the evidence on Instagram. Legitimate.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, I'm not sure I'm buying that one. All Right,
I've heard enough. I'm just going to take a moment
to deliberate, and I will come back with my decision.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So, Michael, your claim today is that you would like
a pubublic apology on handbags your podcast for Josh blaming
you for flying into Avalon Airport. And you'd also like
him to post a shot from a photo shoot from
about four or five years ago where he's in his
underwear on the Instagram page for your Handbag podcast. Now, Josh,
(15:18):
what you would like to happen today is you're not
claiming any money or the compensation for any of you ubers.
But what you would like is for Michael to post
an apology for ever doubting your intelligence, and you would
like him to admit that you are the smarter out
of the two of you. And you'd also like a
massart voucher for eighty dollars. So Josh, all right, So
(15:43):
my decision is that Josh, you will need to make
a public apology on Handbags for blaming Michael for flying
into Avalon. In terms of posting a photo from a
photo shoot four or five years ago, I say that
that is entirely irrelevant and does not amount to any
(16:06):
form of compensation or retribution. So that's denied.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
I'm feeling a little bit disappointed about today's outcome. I
feel like there was a little bit of magic dust
sprayed by Michael on Gina, and I'm bitterly disappointed.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I feel great about today's outcome. I feel like the
truth is out there. Gina was on my side, and
Josh can finally admit that he was at fault in
this situation.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I don't think that I got a fair trial.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
I think that Michael has incorporated some sort of hypnotism
or some sort of word trickery to get Gina to
come on his side.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I was concerned at the start of the trial. I
felt like I was being grilled, but towards the end
I could see Judge Gina. She was starting to come
around understand where I was coming from, and I feel
she made the right decision in the end. Although I
would have really liked to post a photo shoot of Josh.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
I don't think that our disagreement has been settled once
and for all. I feel like we may need a
retrial and get some new information brought up.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I don't think this will have a large effect on
my relationship with Josh. He's been wrong many times before
and he's been able to own up to it. It's
just another one of those situations where he has to
get rid of that ego and understand that he did
make the wrong decision and he has to be responsible
for that. We'll go on as being friends.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
This will definitely affect my relationship with Michael. I just
don't know if I can trust him anymore. I don't
know where we go to from here, and there's going
to be a lot of sleepless nights.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
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