July 16, 2023 • 23 mins
Kyle and Jackie O is the radio show that gets Australia talking. But the drama doesn’t stop when the mics go off. Pete Deppeler – aka Intern Pete – has brought his colleague Tom Whittaker to Judge Gina to settle a dispute regarding money and carpooling that’s been years in the making. Will he get the compensation he’s demanding? Only Judge Gina Liano can decide.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You can choose your friends, but you can't choose your coworkers.
But what happens when office disputes continue when you're off
the clock. That's when you come to my courtroom. I
am Judge Gina, and my decision is final. You better
be ready to hear my ruling.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Carpauling is good for the environment, but is it good
for colleague relations. Pete Deppler has brought Tom Whittaker to
Judge Gina's courtroom for carpooling compensation. Pete is seeking two
six hundred dollars from Tom as reimbursement for petrol and tolls.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
My Dame's Peter Deppler aka intern Pete from the Kyle
and Jackie O Show. I've come on Judge Gina today
because my best friend Tom me thousands of dollars in
fuel money. My name is Tom Whitaker. I'm from the
Kylin Jackie O Show. I'm want Judge Gina today because
my former friend Pete is trying to, I guess sue
me for money because he thinks that I owe him
(01:13):
money for him driving me into work. I've known Tom
for around about fifteen years. I'll consider him a very
close friend. Tom really looked up to me as a mentor.
My relationship with Pete was friends and work colleagues, I
would say now probably just work colleagues, depending on the
outcome of this. I want justice for anyone who gives
someone a lyft, who does a pitch in fuel money.
(01:34):
Hopefully out of today my name gets cleared because it's
been smudged in the dirt by Pete for no reason
with his lies. I just want to be cleared. I'm innocent.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Court is now in session. Please rise the judge, Gina.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Pete, you are the complainant today. Why are you in
my courtroom?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Over the last four and a half years, I've been
actually giving Tom a lift to work every morning, someone
who probably hasn't been the most well behaved passenger, but
has also never chipped in any money for fuel, and
I think he should have been chipping in fuel money.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Okay, So how many days a week was that?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Five days a week, every day?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And what time did you pick him up?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Different times? Because we lived in different all I lived
in different locations, so did Tom, so I was very
adaptable to work out where I could pick him up,
and the approximate time was anywhere between four ten and
four twenty am.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And how did he get home? Did you drop him
home as well?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Sometimes I did drop him home. Other times, if he
was wanted to leave work early, which was quite regularly,
he would catch the train.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Okay, So you just want your claim, EA is for
the drop offs to work in the morning only.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm happy to let the drives home go. It's really
just about being compensated for the drive team.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
All right. And so for four and a half years,
did you ask him to chip in multiple times?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think it was probably a roundabout conversations. Well it was.
I would say to Tom, like, you know, it would
be handy for you to chip in some fuel and
all that sort of stuff at some stage. But I
feel like he was actually quite the manipulator, but never
really was able to move or along from actually answering it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So no, I don't want to know about his answer.
I want to know if you asked him, did you say, Tom,
please pay this amount of money in.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
A roundabout way?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I would say, yes, okay, so how does that go?
How's a roundabout way? Tell me the words driving?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I'm just I'm just at the fuel stationer putting
in more fuel. Tom, could you go in and pay?
Only if he would grab my card or grab my
phone because he had the pin code for my phone.
That's ever happened. And that's a lie.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You can hang on a sick Tom speak.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
All he's doing is lying to swear to you on
my life.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
All right, Well, okay, so Pete, I'll come back to
you in a second. So Tom, what do you say?
Do you agree that Pete drove you to work every morning,
five days a week, picking you up around four am?
Is that right? In his cart?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Is absolutely incorrect? Sorry. I did work here for four
and a half years. For the first like six months,
I drove myself because I used my housemate's car, and
then she moved to Melbourne, so I didn't have access
to that car. And that's how because Pete lived thirty
seconds away from me, the lifts started.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Okay, but that was only for six months. What about
the other four years?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The past four months this year, like the start of
the year, I've been catching the train in because I
no longer lived close to Pete and he wouldn't come
to my place or Liai's with a pickup location because
it was too far, which I understand, and I obviously
didn't kick up a stink because there was never an issue.
But like when he says he picked me up every morning,
he didn't come to my house. I would have to
(04:43):
go to his house. So sometimes I was walking in
the middle of winter.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, I'll get to that. Just tell me what timeframe
do you say he picked you up in the morning.
So you're saying four and a half years less ten months,
six months at the beginning and four at the end, yes, right, final, Okay,
So let's say about three and a half years. Is
that right?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, So you agree he's picked you up three and
a half years every morning. Obviously you've got some issues
about where he picked you up from, but he still
got you to work every day, is that right?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Okay, So tell me about that. What's what's the issue about?
You had to walk?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, sometimes Pete moves a lot. Pete would move every
six months, so there was never the same location. Often,
like I was saying, in winter, I would have to
get up fifteen minutes early to walk thirty minutes to
his house to the pick up location, or I would
have to walk in the pouring rain, in the freezing
to a certain location, which was like out of my
(05:40):
way because he would never want to divert him.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But you weren't in prison. You weren't at prisoner. You
had other options. You could have got on the train,
You could have caught an.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Driven run that early. I don't own a car. And also, Gina,
can I say, I can say because that is also
a lie. That is actually a lie. I say that
I would.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm going to stop you there, going to stop you there.
So Tom, yes, you weren't imprisoned. You could have found
an alternative way to get to work, but you chose
at the time, for the benefit of the pickup, to
walk when you needed to. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, the only alternatives that early in the morning are
an uber or in a cab, which I could not afford.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Okay, so you would have had to pay for that.
So the benefit for you was to get a free ride.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Correct, Yeah, from a friend and a colleague of ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Okay, but the colleague of ten years is now saying
that that wasn't meant to be for free.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, he never told me that ever. He never asked
for money.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So you say that he's never approached you and said
you need to contribute. What do you say about stopping
at the petrol station to pick up fuel and he's
asked you to go in and pay? What do you
say about that?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's a lie too. We would often go to the
petrol station and it would make us late each morning,
because not only would he arrive late to the pickup
area every morning, pretty much, we would then have to
stop for petrol on the way in. And he's one
of those people that only fills up ten dollars at
a time, so we'll fill up like ten dollars and
then he'll go in and get three bottles of sparkling water,
And so did he five minutes later.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That's actually you're complicating the answer to the question. The
question is do you agree that he asked you to
go in and pay? No, Now, he's never asked you
to go in and pay at the petrol station. What
do you say about that? Pete?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That's actually a lie. And I wish I had my
other mobile phone here because I've actually filmed him going
into the servo for me before, Gina.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I just want to know why you didn't just
ask him directly? Why you were round about because I
find this a lot amongst friends. Can I call you friends?
Are you both friends? Would you say that I don't
know who will be after today? But yes, okay, yes,
currently we've won, we'll try and hold it together.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, Tom has looked up to me over the years.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Gina Hush, So, I often find amongst friends that they
have this special thing where they think that their friend
has mental telepathy of sorts, that one friend will think
that the other friend can read their mind, and that
when they don't, that there is reponsible for that. What
do you say about that, Pete.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I have known Tom for a long time, and I
think from from where I'm from, regional Victoria, I'm a
country kid. If someone gives you a lift, you've got
to chip in something, whether it's buying the sandwich at
the servo or chipping in for fuel. I couldn't imagine
getting in anyone's car without at least offering if I'm
getting a lift into work or a lift into the footage.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So you say it's just a matter of courtesy that
he should have offered or he should have paid.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Gene. You're you know, you're old school like me. I'm
not saying you're old. I've just been in general like
insulting term your honor.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't mind being insulted. I think it's quite exciting
to be insulted at times.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Go on, well, no, I just I just think it's
got the way I was brought up, if someone was
to give you something or do something for you, you
exchange a genuine common courtesy of like, oh can I
pitch in for that? Or can I whatever? It happens to.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Be okay, but that wasn't happening. So do you think
at some point that you should have actually just asked him?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's fair you're saying, but I believe I dropped multiple hits.
I've got stats. If tell me the stats, because stats
will help me at the end of the day. This
is what I wrote out. I will take into the
equation that it's a little bit shorter. I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Around taking to the equation. You just told me what
you think, Well.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
There's fifty two weeks a year. There was about two
hundred drive days.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Do you work fifty two weeks a year?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Sorry for two weeks, five weeks, forty working weeks a year. Yep,
around two hundred drive days So that's about one thousand
drive days over five years. So let's just take it
down to seven hundred for the sake of this ridiculous
argument at the end of the day, If that makes sense.
The multiple locations Tom was, by the way, me giving
him a lift late multiple times, multiple multiple times.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Were one You were late multiple times?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Now I would Peter was the laser. Sorry, if I
could just finish my statistics as well for you. So
Tom being late means I would have to pull over
sometimes out the front of where he lived at the time,
which would leave my car idling for three or four minutes.
I'm not just talking about the fuel that you put
into the I'm talking about unnecessary usage of fuels. If
we were running late sometimes I would have to take
(10:05):
tolls because I've had to wait for him. One morning,
he slept in entirely right, and I waited out there
for an extra twenty minutes, couldn't get ahold of him.
Drove off. Then he called me, So I actually did
a whole you turn around the whole city and came back.
That's how much of a good guy I was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But you feel that you've been punished for your good
deeds is that what it feels.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I do definitely feel like that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, sure, okay, all right, So let's finish the statistics.
So you're saying one thousand drive days, let's say seven
hundred YEP.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I spent approximately for work fuel around fourteen thousand dollars.
I worked out extra idle time on the average of
two to three minutes a day, was an approximately extra
seven hundred dollars. Okay, So I've gone down to citis
here on days that were late, I've gone back over
my linked account, which is connected to my tolls. An
extra four hundred and fifty dollars was spent, So not
a lot, but still enough into the equation. Plus car servicing.
(10:53):
Now I haven't put the whole car servicing because cars
are yearsed for other things. Well, that's right, yet, So
I pulled that down to a number of two thous
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
What's two six hundred the repairs.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
On car servicing, basic car servicing. So my total spend
over that period of time that I'd been driving Tom
was twenty one thousand, six hundred and fifty dollars that
I spent myself out of that period of time. If
Tom could, if he kicked in ten percent of all
of that. I feel like that's fair.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But you didn't ask him, well.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I didn't ask him exactly around, so it's a moral issue.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You think that he's maybe taken advantage of you, Would
that be fair to say?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I would say so for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
All right, and Tom, what do you say?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I've got quite a lot of things to add, Judge Dina.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
All right, so I want to hear that firstly.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I just want to say, off the back of that comment,
there the original original lift four years ago he offered
me and never said at any point in time I
would need to give money. He was going that way anyway.
We lived in the same suburb. He never had to
veer off his route. I was coming to his place
or to the meeting point. He was going this way
anyway with the car, with the pet all taking the tolls.
(12:01):
It was never anything out of excess that was going
to cause an issue for him. Also, in his little
stats here, he's forgetting to mention for about a year
and a half there was two other passengers in the car,
so really all those statistics should bete divided the other two.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Were they going to one of them? They were one
of I don't need names. I just need to know
where they'll give you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Nay, if you want a witness as well. I didn't
talk while you were talking. It's now my turn, and
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Sorry, Pete. I'll just listen to Tom or come back
to you. You'll have to hold your tongue.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Thank you, your honor. One of them was Pete's sister
who worked in the building with us and started at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Okay, And did she pay you petrol money?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Nice? She did, lie, thank you. And the other one
was another producers on the radio show who also lived
right by the pickup zone and would come in and
start at the same time as us. So really there
was three of us all getting a lift in the
one car at the same time, three passengers plus Pete, right, okay?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And that other passenger did they pay? They contribute?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
He did not pay?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
No, okay, if you ask them for money.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If I may speak now, because there's a couple of
things that are absolutely inaccurate, they're judgment. She's asked you
was a yes or no question? Did Jermaine pay yes
or no? Yes? He did? Okay, Well it once I've
asked once? One paid once? How much one thousand dollars.
He paid me thirty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Dollars and was that at your request?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It was at him reading my hints very clearly. Okay,
all right, so Tom go on the I think two
than six hundred dollars for him saying that's servicing of
the car. The cars beyond servicing. Peter's car is so
old they don't even make it anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's probably servicing was so expensive and he probably had
to do it regularly. But it was better than the
old car you didn't have, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well not really. The passenger seat window is broken. It's
permanently down.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Okay, so it's not road worthy.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, it's down by about three inches. So if it's
pouring rain, you get drenched. If it's the middle of
winter at four am, which for half of the year
it obviously is, which is when we go into work,
it's freezing and the hot air only works some of
the time, and he has so much old food and
rubbish in the car. It's like a Hord's car that
there's actually full of bugs and cockroaches, and once you're
(14:14):
on it. There was one time one morning where I
was so freezing because the window was down that I
asked him to put the heater on, and multiple baby
cockroaches flew out into our face, and then so ridiculous,
And then.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I don't believe you, funny bone, this is not a
true story. This is true flew out into our baby
cockroaches flew out, yes, okay, out of the air vents,
and Thenanosaurus rex across the road.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
No, no, I swear to you, swear. Baby cockroaches flew
out at our face. And he said, oh, don't worry,
this has happened before, and reached behind him and pulled
out a giant can of more team with one of
those long straw attachments and put it while the heater
was on, into the air vent and turned on the
sh and then it sprayed back in our face and
cover us with mortine, hot mortine on the face.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So when did that?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
That is the kid? Did that happen about two winters ago? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay? And that is kept getting into the car.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
That I had to put up. I had no other
way of getting in, no other choice.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, can I ask you, is there a policy with
a radio station or any production company that if you
are working those sorts of hours that you're given a
taxi voucher, or you're given a driver or some other
means of getting into our companies.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yes, the company we're at. No.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
No, they didn't give you any any other means of transport. No, no,
other than you paying. So you didn't get an allowance
of any sort for travel at four am.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Correct. No, it's get your own way there.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I'm going to investigate that. If you're telling me a lie,
you'll be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
No, that's true, Peter, I can vouch for him. Is
that true? That is that's actually the only true thing
he's probably said in the last five minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
By the way, Okay, all right, okay, and Pete, did
you offer to drive Tom to work every morning? I mean,
obviously you've moved around and the arrangement has continued, so
you've had communication, You've had discussions about, oh, I'll see
you tomorrow morning. Is that sort of how it went. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think it just became the expectation. And I suppose
you don't expect to have to ask someone every day.
Could they just chip in a bit of cash for
the fuel?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But did you say that there was a time limit
on your offer? Did you say I'll pick you up
for the next week, but after that, forget about it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I didn't. I didn't Gina, and that it probably probably
could have been said. But as I said to my
point earlier in the podcast, I really there is that
expectation if someone's helping you out with something, surely you'd
chip in.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So the mental telepathy argument. So you've never asked him
for an amount of money to pay, You've just assumed
that he would pick up on your vibe.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, because Kate, my sister for two months, gave me
sixty dollars a month and Jermaine gave me I think
it was I think it was around forty dollars. Wow.
We also had a group chat as well for pick
ups because everyone would update me when theyah blah blah.
Tom always the last one. They're always late, by the way,
even when I was car pulling as well. So he
saw other people putting receipts into that Facebook.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Group, so they were paying you, what forty a month
or sixty a month.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Jermaine gave me forty and Kate gave me sixty dollars twice,
so so one person gave you forty dollars once, another
person gave you sixty dollars twice.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think you said thirty dollars once. So I think
your story has changed a little bit. It did think.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
All. Actually, if anything, to be honest, I've got evidence.
I've just completely forgotten about.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
What is that? What's the evidence?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So Tom and I a directive from the show If
who Were Driving in Together was to sometimes films and videos,
and we did a video series. And that video series
was like our car lifts in and chatting and what's
coming up on the radio show and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Was that carpool KARRYO, keep it good, okay? And you
just did that on your mobile phone, Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Filmed, filmed illegally on the on the phone on the
go pro. Things I've extracted. I completely forgot about this.
I've extracted the audio. This is from twenty twenty one.
I hope your people have given it to you. Gina.
This is actually hard evidence of me actually asking for money.
So I've got audio proof.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Actually, Okay, I'll hear that.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Pin.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Don't put the chicken out of the window, Damn. When
I'm driving, It's.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Fine if that thingure, the birds will eat it anyway.
Can you just comet down when I'm driving say, seriously,
it's littering. You can't throw a chicken as I can
eat it another. I'm sick of it. Honestly, I drive
you in every mornings.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'll send this to your minions.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I actually want you, if you're going to carry on
for a starter, to actually put money. If filled twenty
bucks a week, say you're putting money in, You're putting
money in. Moving forward. Maybe after the holidays, will revisit
the conversation bird, Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
After the holiday.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Thanks you finally now Jesus Chris, pull up, Hang on, men,
I'm gonna get out of hurry up. When's that from?
I don't remember twenty twenty one February. I don't remember
that you judged Gina. That is on the video as well,
which I'm more than happy to and you judged Gina.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So Tom, do you remember that conversation?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I don't I remember that conversation. No, do you agree?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Do you agree that you were recording things in the
car conversation?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, we recorded the because I was the main star
of them for our boss. So I remember those videos.
I don't remember that at all. But I mean the
day that I threw a piece of chicken out of
the car. He threw a whole char girl Charlie's chicken
out the window of the car. There's another story. Doesn't matter, Gine.
It doesn't need to know about that.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So if we calculate that it was about two years
ago that you agreed, we've got it here, hard evidence,
you've heard it. So about two years ago you agreed
to pay twenty dollars a week?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, I think I said after the holidays. Maybe, I
don't think I said yes, which I could recall the
holidays were literally two weeks away. So yeah, you're right, Gina.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So about twenty dollars a week for the last forty
weeks a year, so it's about eighty weeks. So that's
twenty times eighty weeks. Would you agree that's yes?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean, no, I agree, but I agree. Do you
say teen about sixteen hundred? I mean I said maybe
after the holidays. I didn't say yes, you did that.
I said, if you hear that audio? I said confirmed,
and you said yes?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And how much do you say, my friend, I'm going
to stop you there. How much do you say? The
tolls were.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Around that for that period of time? So for I
think it was four fifty let me bring up my
I have only accounted on my linked account the times
that were running late and I would have to take
tolls because you made me late. This is the only
ones that I've counted here. Sorry, Gina. I'll just bring
that up onto my document here, my linked account. Okay,
so that was four hundred and fifty I'd be happy
to look even if you said I don't know one
(20:40):
hundred and fifty bucks of tolls. Happy to buy the
bullet on that one and sacrifice that.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
All right, I'm going to make my decision. I'll be
back in a moment.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I've made my decision and I'm going to deliver that now. Pete,
you say you drove Tome to work every day in
your claim you've got five years, but in actual fact
it was four and a half less six months at
the start and four months at the end, so let's
say about three and a half years. And you say
that Toime never contributed to fuel or road toll and
that you had a big blow up fight about it,
(21:25):
which we've listened to. That recording has revealed that there
was a discussion or an argument about time contributing at
least twenty dollars a week, and that's something that they
would consider in total, about sixteen hundred dollars plus tolls
for the period of time of forty weeks. For two years,
you had another two passengers in the car. You haven't
(21:46):
asked them for any contribution. So my ruling today is
that you will receive one third of what the total
claim is being a total of five hundred and eighty
three dollars and thirty three cents in favor of Pete.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Oh, I've got to give him that money.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
My decision is final.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I could not be happier with today's outcome. Everyone knows
Tom is a leech who got a freelift for years
and never chipped in money for Gina Liano, Judge Gina,
to actually say those words out loud that it's in
my favor just means the world. And I'm just so
so happy. I'm so pissed off about today's outcome, Like
(22:32):
I'm actually so annoyed. This is ridiculous. Today felt fair,
Today felt like justice was finally given. This absolutely was
not a fair trial. Are you kidding me. He came
in with made up facts, incorrect numbers, incorrect monetary amounts,
and somehow still managed to win. Look, I'm happy to
continue a friendship if Tom does, but you know, as
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far as driving around anymore, I think I think we're
definitely done there. I even want to know Pee anymore.
I honestly don't care. I've already blocked his number. He
can go for himself. I'm really happy with Judge Gena's
treatment of me today because she called it out. Even
some of my details were a bit sketchy, but there's
nothing getting around her. She is well. She is judged
Gina for a reason. I mean, Judge Gina looked amazing.
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She had the hair shed, the nails shed, the big
she looked great. But I'm actually really pissed off at her,
Like I don't think I was fairly treated today at all.
I believe this disagreement is absolutely settled, after probably tears
and people hearing this, I believe Tom now knows how
wrong he was. Pete's been banging on about this for
years on radio, on videos, now on a podcast. I
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look like the bad guy, which is simply not true.
And this is definitely not settled for me. I'll be back.
This has been an iHeart production.
You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You can choose your friends, but you can't choose your coworkers.
But what happens when office disputes continue when you're off
the clock. That's when you come to my courtroom. I
am Judge Gina, and my decision is final. You better
be ready to hear my ruling.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Carpauling is good for the environment, but is it good
for colleague relations. Pete Deppler has brought Tom Whittaker to
Judge Gina's courtroom for carpooling compensation. Pete is seeking two
six hundred dollars from Tom as reimbursement for petrol and tolls.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
My Dame's Peter Deppler aka intern Pete from the Kyle
and Jackie O Show. I've come on Judge Gina today
because my best friend Tom me thousands of dollars in
fuel money. My name is Tom Whitaker. I'm from the
Kylin Jackie O Show. I'm want Judge Gina today because
my former friend Pete is trying to, I guess sue
me for money because he thinks that I owe him
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money for him driving me into work. I've known Tom
for around about fifteen years. I'll consider him a very
close friend. Tom really looked up to me as a mentor.
My relationship with Pete was friends and work colleagues, I
would say now probably just work colleagues, depending on the
outcome of this. I want justice for anyone who gives
someone a lyft, who does a pitch in fuel money.
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Hopefully out of today my name gets cleared because it's
been smudged in the dirt by Pete for no reason
with his lies. I just want to be cleared. I'm innocent.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Court is now in session. Please rise the judge, Gina.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Pete, you are the complainant today. Why are you in
my courtroom?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Over the last four and a half years, I've been
actually giving Tom a lift to work every morning, someone
who probably hasn't been the most well behaved passenger, but
has also never chipped in any money for fuel, and
I think he should have been chipping in fuel money.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Okay, So how many days a week was that?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Five days a week, every day?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And what time did you pick him up?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Different times? Because we lived in different all I lived
in different locations, so did Tom, so I was very
adaptable to work out where I could pick him up,
and the approximate time was anywhere between four ten and
four twenty am.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And how did he get home? Did you drop him
home as well?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Sometimes I did drop him home. Other times, if he
was wanted to leave work early, which was quite regularly,
he would catch the train.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Okay, So you just want your claim, EA is for
the drop offs to work in the morning only.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm happy to let the drives home go. It's really
just about being compensated for the drive team.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
All right. And so for four and a half years,
did you ask him to chip in multiple times?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think it was probably a roundabout conversations. Well it was.
I would say to Tom, like, you know, it would
be handy for you to chip in some fuel and
all that sort of stuff at some stage. But I
feel like he was actually quite the manipulator, but never
really was able to move or along from actually answering it.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So no, I don't want to know about his answer.
I want to know if you asked him, did you say, Tom,
please pay this amount of money in.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
A roundabout way?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I would say, yes, okay, so how does that go?
How's a roundabout way? Tell me the words driving?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I'm just I'm just at the fuel stationer putting
in more fuel. Tom, could you go in and pay?
Only if he would grab my card or grab my
phone because he had the pin code for my phone.
That's ever happened. And that's a lie.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You can hang on a sick Tom speak.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
All he's doing is lying to swear to you on
my life.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
All right, Well, okay, so Pete, I'll come back to
you in a second. So Tom, what do you say?
Do you agree that Pete drove you to work every morning,
five days a week, picking you up around four am?
Is that right? In his cart?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Is absolutely incorrect? Sorry. I did work here for four
and a half years. For the first like six months,
I drove myself because I used my housemate's car, and
then she moved to Melbourne, so I didn't have access
to that car. And that's how because Pete lived thirty
seconds away from me, the lifts started.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Okay, but that was only for six months. What about
the other four years?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
The past four months this year, like the start of
the year, I've been catching the train in because I
no longer lived close to Pete and he wouldn't come
to my place or Liai's with a pickup location because
it was too far, which I understand, and I obviously
didn't kick up a stink because there was never an issue.
But like when he says he picked me up every morning,
he didn't come to my house. I would have to
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go to his house. So sometimes I was walking in
the middle of winter.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, I'll get to that. Just tell me what timeframe
do you say he picked you up in the morning.
So you're saying four and a half years less ten months,
six months at the beginning and four at the end, yes, right, final, Okay,
So let's say about three and a half years. Is
that right?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, So you agree he's picked you up three and
a half years every morning. Obviously you've got some issues
about where he picked you up from, but he still
got you to work every day, is that right?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Okay, So tell me about that. What's what's the issue about?
You had to walk?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Well, sometimes Pete moves a lot. Pete would move every
six months, so there was never the same location. Often,
like I was saying, in winter, I would have to
get up fifteen minutes early to walk thirty minutes to
his house to the pick up location, or I would
have to walk in the pouring rain, in the freezing
to a certain location, which was like out of my
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way because he would never want to divert him.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But you weren't in prison. You weren't at prisoner. You
had other options. You could have got on the train,
You could have caught an.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Driven run that early. I don't own a car. And also, Gina,
can I say, I can say because that is also
a lie. That is actually a lie. I say that
I would.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm going to stop you there, going to stop you there.
So Tom, yes, you weren't imprisoned. You could have found
an alternative way to get to work, but you chose
at the time, for the benefit of the pickup, to
walk when you needed to. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, the only alternatives that early in the morning are
an uber or in a cab, which I could not afford.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Okay, so you would have had to pay for that.
So the benefit for you was to get a free ride.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Correct, Yeah, from a friend and a colleague of ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Okay, but the colleague of ten years is now saying
that that wasn't meant to be for free.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well, he never told me that ever. He never asked
for money.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So you say that he's never approached you and said
you need to contribute. What do you say about stopping
at the petrol station to pick up fuel and he's
asked you to go in and pay? What do you
say about that?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's a lie too. We would often go to the
petrol station and it would make us late each morning,
because not only would he arrive late to the pickup
area every morning, pretty much, we would then have to
stop for petrol on the way in. And he's one
of those people that only fills up ten dollars at
a time, so we'll fill up like ten dollars and
then he'll go in and get three bottles of sparkling water,
And so did he five minutes later.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That's actually you're complicating the answer to the question. The
question is do you agree that he asked you to
go in and pay? No, Now, he's never asked you
to go in and pay at the petrol station. What
do you say about that? Pete?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That's actually a lie. And I wish I had my
other mobile phone here because I've actually filmed him going
into the servo for me before, Gina.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
So I just want to know why you didn't just
ask him directly? Why you were round about because I
find this a lot amongst friends. Can I call you friends?
Are you both friends? Would you say that I don't
know who will be after today? But yes, okay, yes,
currently we've won, we'll try and hold it together.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, Tom has looked up to me over the years.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Gina Hush, So, I often find amongst friends that they
have this special thing where they think that their friend
has mental telepathy of sorts, that one friend will think
that the other friend can read their mind, and that
when they don't, that there is reponsible for that. What
do you say about that, Pete.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I have known Tom for a long time, and I
think from from where I'm from, regional Victoria, I'm a
country kid. If someone gives you a lift, you've got
to chip in something, whether it's buying the sandwich at
the servo or chipping in for fuel. I couldn't imagine
getting in anyone's car without at least offering if I'm
getting a lift into work or a lift into the footage.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So you say it's just a matter of courtesy that
he should have offered or he should have paid.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Gene. You're you know, you're old school like me. I'm
not saying you're old. I've just been in general like
insulting term your honor.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't mind being insulted. I think it's quite exciting
to be insulted at times.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Go on, well, no, I just I just think it's
got the way I was brought up, if someone was
to give you something or do something for you, you
exchange a genuine common courtesy of like, oh can I
pitch in for that? Or can I whatever? It happens to.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Be okay, but that wasn't happening. So do you think
at some point that you should have actually just asked him?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's fair you're saying, but I believe I dropped multiple hits.
I've got stats. If tell me the stats, because stats
will help me at the end of the day. This
is what I wrote out. I will take into the
equation that it's a little bit shorter. I thought it was.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Around taking to the equation. You just told me what
you think, Well.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
There's fifty two weeks a year. There was about two
hundred drive days.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Do you work fifty two weeks a year?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Sorry for two weeks, five weeks, forty working weeks a year. Yep,
around two hundred drive days So that's about one thousand
drive days over five years. So let's just take it
down to seven hundred for the sake of this ridiculous
argument at the end of the day, If that makes sense.
The multiple locations Tom was, by the way, me giving
him a lift late multiple times, multiple multiple times.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Were one You were late multiple times?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Now I would Peter was the laser. Sorry, if I
could just finish my statistics as well for you. So
Tom being late means I would have to pull over
sometimes out the front of where he lived at the time,
which would leave my car idling for three or four minutes.
I'm not just talking about the fuel that you put
into the I'm talking about unnecessary usage of fuels. If
we were running late sometimes I would have to take
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tolls because I've had to wait for him. One morning,
he slept in entirely right, and I waited out there
for an extra twenty minutes, couldn't get ahold of him.
Drove off. Then he called me, So I actually did
a whole you turn around the whole city and came back.
That's how much of a good guy I was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But you feel that you've been punished for your good
deeds is that what it feels.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I do definitely feel like that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, sure, okay, all right, So let's finish the statistics.
So you're saying one thousand drive days, let's say seven
hundred YEP.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I spent approximately for work fuel around fourteen thousand dollars.
I worked out extra idle time on the average of
two to three minutes a day, was an approximately extra
seven hundred dollars. Okay, So I've gone down to citis
here on days that were late, I've gone back over
my linked account, which is connected to my tolls. An
extra four hundred and fifty dollars was spent, So not
a lot, but still enough into the equation. Plus car servicing.
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Now I haven't put the whole car servicing because cars
are yearsed for other things. Well, that's right, yet, So
I pulled that down to a number of two thous
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
What's two six hundred the repairs.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
On car servicing, basic car servicing. So my total spend
over that period of time that I'd been driving Tom
was twenty one thousand, six hundred and fifty dollars that
I spent myself out of that period of time. If
Tom could, if he kicked in ten percent of all
of that. I feel like that's fair.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But you didn't ask him, well.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I didn't ask him exactly around, so it's a moral issue.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You think that he's maybe taken advantage of you, Would
that be fair to say?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I would say so for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
All right, and Tom, what do you say?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I've got quite a lot of things to add, Judge Dina.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
All right, so I want to hear that firstly.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I just want to say, off the back of that comment,
there the original original lift four years ago he offered
me and never said at any point in time I
would need to give money. He was going that way anyway.
We lived in the same suburb. He never had to
veer off his route. I was coming to his place
or to the meeting point. He was going this way
anyway with the car, with the pet all taking the tolls.
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It was never anything out of excess that was going
to cause an issue for him. Also, in his little
stats here, he's forgetting to mention for about a year
and a half there was two other passengers in the car,
so really all those statistics should bete divided the other two.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Were they going to one of them? They were one
of I don't need names. I just need to know
where they'll give you.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Nay, if you want a witness as well. I didn't
talk while you were talking. It's now my turn, and
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Sorry, Pete. I'll just listen to Tom or come back
to you. You'll have to hold your tongue.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Thank you, your honor. One of them was Pete's sister
who worked in the building with us and started at
the same time.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Okay, And did she pay you petrol money?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Nice? She did, lie, thank you. And the other one
was another producers on the radio show who also lived
right by the pickup zone and would come in and
start at the same time as us. So really there
was three of us all getting a lift in the
one car at the same time, three passengers plus Pete, right, okay?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And that other passenger did they pay? They contribute?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
He did not pay?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
No, okay, if you ask them for money.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If I may speak now, because there's a couple of
things that are absolutely inaccurate, they're judgment. She's asked you
was a yes or no question? Did Jermaine pay yes
or no? Yes? He did? Okay, Well it once I've
asked once? One paid once? How much one thousand dollars.
He paid me thirty.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Dollars and was that at your request?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It was at him reading my hints very clearly. Okay,
all right, so Tom go on the I think two
than six hundred dollars for him saying that's servicing of
the car. The cars beyond servicing. Peter's car is so
old they don't even make it anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's probably servicing was so expensive and he probably had
to do it regularly. But it was better than the
old car you didn't have, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well not really. The passenger seat window is broken. It's
permanently down.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Okay, so it's not road worthy.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, it's down by about three inches. So if it's
pouring rain, you get drenched. If it's the middle of
winter at four am, which for half of the year
it obviously is, which is when we go into work,
it's freezing and the hot air only works some of
the time, and he has so much old food and
rubbish in the car. It's like a Hord's car that
there's actually full of bugs and cockroaches, and once you're
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on it. There was one time one morning where I
was so freezing because the window was down that I
asked him to put the heater on, and multiple baby
cockroaches flew out into our face, and then so ridiculous,
And then.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I don't believe you, funny bone, this is not a
true story. This is true flew out into our baby
cockroaches flew out, yes, okay, out of the air vents,
and Thenanosaurus rex across the road.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
No, no, I swear to you, swear. Baby cockroaches flew
out at our face. And he said, oh, don't worry,
this has happened before, and reached behind him and pulled
out a giant can of more team with one of
those long straw attachments and put it while the heater
was on, into the air vent and turned on the
sh and then it sprayed back in our face and
cover us with mortine, hot mortine on the face.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So when did that?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
That is the kid? Did that happen about two winters ago? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay? And that is kept getting into the car.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
That I had to put up. I had no other
way of getting in, no other choice.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, can I ask you, is there a policy with
a radio station or any production company that if you
are working those sorts of hours that you're given a
taxi voucher, or you're given a driver or some other
means of getting into our companies.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yes, the company we're at. No.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
No, they didn't give you any any other means of transport. No, no,
other than you paying. So you didn't get an allowance
of any sort for travel at four am.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Correct. No, it's get your own way there.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I'm going to investigate that. If you're telling me a lie,
you'll be in trouble.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
No, that's true, Peter, I can vouch for him. Is
that true? That is that's actually the only true thing
he's probably said in the last five minutes.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
By the way, Okay, all right, okay, and Pete, did
you offer to drive Tom to work every morning? I mean,
obviously you've moved around and the arrangement has continued, so
you've had communication, You've had discussions about, oh, I'll see
you tomorrow morning. Is that sort of how it went. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think it just became the expectation. And I suppose
you don't expect to have to ask someone every day.
Could they just chip in a bit of cash for
the fuel?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But did you say that there was a time limit
on your offer? Did you say I'll pick you up
for the next week, but after that, forget about it.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I didn't. I didn't Gina, and that it probably probably
could have been said. But as I said to my
point earlier in the podcast, I really there is that
expectation if someone's helping you out with something, surely you'd
chip in.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
So the mental telepathy argument. So you've never asked him
for an amount of money to pay, You've just assumed
that he would pick up on your vibe.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, because Kate, my sister for two months, gave me
sixty dollars a month and Jermaine gave me I think
it was I think it was around forty dollars. Wow.
We also had a group chat as well for pick
ups because everyone would update me when theyah blah blah.
Tom always the last one. They're always late, by the way,
even when I was car pulling as well. So he
saw other people putting receipts into that Facebook.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Group, so they were paying you, what forty a month
or sixty a month.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Jermaine gave me forty and Kate gave me sixty dollars twice,
so so one person gave you forty dollars once, another
person gave you sixty dollars twice.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think you said thirty dollars once. So I think
your story has changed a little bit. It did think.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
All. Actually, if anything, to be honest, I've got evidence.
I've just completely forgotten about.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
What is that? What's the evidence?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So Tom and I a directive from the show If
who Were Driving in Together was to sometimes films and videos,
and we did a video series. And that video series
was like our car lifts in and chatting and what's
coming up on the radio show and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Was that carpool KARRYO, keep it good, okay? And you
just did that on your mobile phone, Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Filmed, filmed illegally on the on the phone on the
go pro. Things I've extracted. I completely forgot about this.
I've extracted the audio. This is from twenty twenty one.
I hope your people have given it to you. Gina.
This is actually hard evidence of me actually asking for money.
So I've got audio proof.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Actually, Okay, I'll hear that.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Pin.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Don't put the chicken out of the window, Damn. When
I'm driving, It's.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Fine if that thingure, the birds will eat it anyway.
Can you just comet down when I'm driving say, seriously,
it's littering. You can't throw a chicken as I can
eat it another. I'm sick of it. Honestly, I drive
you in every mornings.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'll send this to your minions.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I actually want you, if you're going to carry on
for a starter, to actually put money. If filled twenty
bucks a week, say you're putting money in, You're putting
money in. Moving forward. Maybe after the holidays, will revisit
the conversation bird, Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
After the holiday.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Thanks you finally now Jesus Chris, pull up, Hang on, men,
I'm gonna get out of hurry up. When's that from?
I don't remember twenty twenty one February. I don't remember
that you judged Gina. That is on the video as well,
which I'm more than happy to and you judged Gina.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So Tom, do you remember that conversation?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I don't I remember that conversation. No, do you agree?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Do you agree that you were recording things in the
car conversation?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, we recorded the because I was the main star
of them for our boss. So I remember those videos.
I don't remember that at all. But I mean the
day that I threw a piece of chicken out of
the car. He threw a whole char girl Charlie's chicken
out the window of the car. There's another story. Doesn't matter, Gine.
It doesn't need to know about that.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
So if we calculate that it was about two years
ago that you agreed, we've got it here, hard evidence,
you've heard it. So about two years ago you agreed
to pay twenty dollars a week?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, I think I said after the holidays. Maybe, I
don't think I said yes, which I could recall the
holidays were literally two weeks away. So yeah, you're right, Gina.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
So about twenty dollars a week for the last forty
weeks a year, so it's about eighty weeks. So that's
twenty times eighty weeks. Would you agree that's yes?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean, no, I agree, but I agree. Do you
say teen about sixteen hundred? I mean I said maybe
after the holidays. I didn't say yes, you did that.
I said, if you hear that audio? I said confirmed,
and you said yes?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And how much do you say, my friend, I'm going
to stop you there. How much do you say? The
tolls were.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Around that for that period of time? So for I
think it was four fifty let me bring up my
I have only accounted on my linked account the times
that were running late and I would have to take
tolls because you made me late. This is the only
ones that I've counted here. Sorry, Gina. I'll just bring
that up onto my document here, my linked account. Okay,
so that was four hundred and fifty I'd be happy
to look even if you said I don't know one
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hundred and fifty bucks of tolls. Happy to buy the
bullet on that one and sacrifice that.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
All right, I'm going to make my decision. I'll be
back in a moment.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I've made my decision and I'm going to deliver that now. Pete,
you say you drove Tome to work every day in
your claim you've got five years, but in actual fact
it was four and a half less six months at
the start and four months at the end, so let's
say about three and a half years. And you say
that Toime never contributed to fuel or road toll and
that you had a big blow up fight about it,
(21:25):
which we've listened to. That recording has revealed that there
was a discussion or an argument about time contributing at
least twenty dollars a week, and that's something that they
would consider in total, about sixteen hundred dollars plus tolls
for the period of time of forty weeks. For two years,
you had another two passengers in the car. You haven't
(21:46):
asked them for any contribution. So my ruling today is
that you will receive one third of what the total
claim is being a total of five hundred and eighty
three dollars and thirty three cents in favor of Pete.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Oh, I've got to give him that money.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
My decision is final.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I could not be happier with today's outcome. Everyone knows
Tom is a leech who got a freelift for years
and never chipped in money for Gina Liano, Judge Gina,
to actually say those words out loud that it's in
my favor just means the world. And I'm just so
so happy. I'm so pissed off about today's outcome, Like
(22:32):
I'm actually so annoyed. This is ridiculous. Today felt fair,
Today felt like justice was finally given. This absolutely was
not a fair trial. Are you kidding me. He came
in with made up facts, incorrect numbers, incorrect monetary amounts,
and somehow still managed to win. Look, I'm happy to
continue a friendship if Tom does, but you know, as
(22:56):
far as driving around anymore, I think I think we're
definitely done there. I even want to know Pee anymore.
I honestly don't care. I've already blocked his number. He
can go for himself. I'm really happy with Judge Gena's
treatment of me today because she called it out. Even
some of my details were a bit sketchy, but there's
nothing getting around her. She is well. She is judged
Gina for a reason. I mean, Judge Gina looked amazing.
(23:17):
She had the hair shed, the nails shed, the big
she looked great. But I'm actually really pissed off at her,
Like I don't think I was fairly treated today at all.
I believe this disagreement is absolutely settled, after probably tears
and people hearing this, I believe Tom now knows how
wrong he was. Pete's been banging on about this for
years on radio, on videos, now on a podcast. I
(23:40):
look like the bad guy, which is simply not true.
And this is definitely not settled for me. I'll be back.
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