December 2, 2025 • 9 mins
Barra joined Lisa & Russell for a chat. First up on the agenda, boomers are back in the news - can you guess why? Plus Russell & Barra tackle a deep question on Dad Chat. Tune in for the full chat.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Time for barriers bits morning mates wed.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, the boomers in the house. Yes, old fella, you
just I just made it.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You're just a boomer.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I still cop it from my kids. Good one, Boomer. Okay, Boomer, Yeah, okay, boomer. Yeah,
you don't know what you're talking about. And now it's
been proven on right, Lease, we are the happiest workers.
And I know exactly why.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I know exactly why too.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yes, the closest to ending working, they're closest to be
able to.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hang out the boots.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
They're the ones with the biggest super bowlet Why.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Do you do you say? You know why? Is it
the same reason?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, that survey is quite interesting, isn't. We've we've fixed
up the millennials. We're much better than more of the millennials.
They're sort of eighty one to ninety sixth twenty nine
to forty four.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, they're miserable.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
They're the most miserable, apparently, according to this new report
from sick Well, apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And West Australians are the happiest workers too, said there
as well, sixty nine percent or something, which is sixty
two percent.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's probably something to do with the pay rate.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, maybe five phone and stuff like that. That can
be challenging, but boomers are the happiest because we have
survived some stuff. I can't believe how good the millennials
get it now. Seriously, it's with all the worker boomer.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I agree, they may beg to different, but we go on.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, your case with all the worker rights and everything
that goes on nowadays, much easier.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We never had that.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well what about this, We had to come into the office.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I believe, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We couldn't just go.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm going to work from home.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't think I will.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm having a dona.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And what about this when we started? When I started
no internet, no internet, no internet, and then when.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You barely a fat and then when you had to
unplug the phone to be able to use the facts, I.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Had a machine.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And then when you start getting Internet, it was that
weird noise and slow dialing, get off the phone on
the internet, no search bars, no Google, so he couldn't
just google something. He had to use an encyclopedia. And
who remembers buffering.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, just going do this because we've done the hard guards.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Happy.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No mobile phones, people smoking at their desk, nest blowing
smoke all of you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, that was a common thing in radio, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Getting Jack the Dancer, I mean, no bloody private happens,
no private conversations you had because there's no mobile the facts.
As you mentioned. Then with that ugly weird paper they
used to have in the strange noises half the time
it didn't work. Photocopies always jammed.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But that hasn't change.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And least what about typewriters. Try to explain to the
many lens listening what a what a manual typewriter was
like to change the ribbon caught the ribbon, Matt, it
was absolutely Shisenhausen.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm still going by the theory that you're the happiest
because you're the closest to not doing it anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But I do I think they're all valid points.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What we came through. We are the Golden generation. We
built Australia.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
What's interesting in this survey it says, you know, baby
boomers are the most likely to be the happiest, Millennials
and Gen z are not. It says the youngest workers
also face the greatest workplace challenges, with forty seven percent
reporting burnout and exhaustion from their jobs, and forty one
percent often dreading going to work. You don't face any
more workplace challenges than anyone else. It's not like you
(03:37):
don't get more workplace challenges just because you're twenty five.
It's everyone's facing the same challenges. Some people just handle
them better.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is it social media? Maybe? Because if you do get
sacked and that everyone knows doesn't help. You know this,
we could make friends without emojis.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We couldn't, well you couldn't you use the rock emoji
and you're in the HR office.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, millennials lose their mind if the Wi Fi imagine
Christmas part.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I blame social media and HR for ruining everything.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
They did clean up a bit of the you know,
Christmas party stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I think we're the second happy because you're in
a different generation where Gen X and we're I think
we're second generation. We're the second happiest generation.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah life, So we like, we know Wi Fi drops out,
my kids, we get we got it's got five seconds,
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
What we had to do was adjust the TV antenna
sitting on top of the TV.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And then and then stay there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We were the antenna exactly were the boomers remember life
without screens? Millennials can't. They can't last ten minutes without
checking their phone.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Okay, but yeah, God, I hate that expression hate.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I hate it on behind when they.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Use it on us because we're not We're not boomers.
Chat with Russell embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Got a text we have rob in Eglinton says, Hi,
what advice do you give your kids about finding happiness?
How do you encourage it? What are the little things
that make you happy?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Deep question? Deep questions? They tests, don't they.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I might have to go to Google on that one.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I'll tell you about a in a minute. But
I've got something I reckon finding happiness. I reckon it's
about the little things, but noticing stuff as well. Like
you walk outside and it's a beautiful dagger hair goods.
This it's like the Castle. We take on the Castle
attitude tag the serenity.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Take in what's around you. There are amazing things around you.
You just open your eyes.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Look at the jack around a tree across the road.
Jack around the trees are the best.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's beautiful. It's making a hell of a mess though.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Good food good and like the Castle, good food, it's
this darlin. What's that on top day? That's what she say,
dressing the best meal ever, fresh sheets. You know you're
getting the bed and you just got the seeds of
(06:12):
the most well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's actually not one of the most underrated things in
the world. I think everyone.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I think everybody loves that. Yeah, it's all my sexy,
isn't it. Be grateful, that's true. We'll give you that.
What am I grateful for? I was grateful for when
my son I played golf with my son and he
said to me, Dad, you know I'll never put from
the rough. And now you've got to be a golfer
(06:38):
to kind of understand that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That has a double meaning.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It doesn't have a double meaning. There please, there's tomorrow.
Golf is right, you can't come back.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Don't leave me here on my own with him.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Don't cut from the fringe. That's probably that's not got either, getting.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Rob Just get them to enjoy the little things in life,
wonderful things in the world, and just let them get
them to appreciate.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
All the all the golf.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Texting.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Look and now a very good friend, a very good
friend of mine, O lover. She's she's a beauty. She
told me the other day that she used AI to
pump her own ties up. She got under chat but
to reassure herself that what she'd just done happens a
lot and it's no big deal. So what had happened?
(07:38):
She was she thought she was a bad parent because
she went to daycare, dropped her child off and the
child was still crying when she left.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That probably has happened to everything.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think that's that's a pretty ye.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I mean, I know, and that's what chat GP said.
Feel listen, don't worry. This situation is extremely common, it said,
it said nothing negative about your parenting separation. Crying is normal,
not harmful. It's it's I prefer you rather than these
people here, mum. But you know, but you're doing the
right thing most stop crying straight away when once you
leave you go and cry in your cappuccino, and the.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You're putting yourself out of a gig.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
If you're going to tell people to get their dad
vice or mum vius from chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, I tell you what. I was surprised that she
said she did that, and it made a difference being
talked to by a machine. But it is it is, well,
it is and staying longer longer sometimes makes it harder,
doesn't It probably.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And just putting off.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You're not abandoning them. It's like when you drop your dog. Exactly,
he's on your.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Legs and as soon as I go, they said, oh,
you know, she was great.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
She just went straight up to the dog, you know,
and the kennel next to her and said, what, come
out and play?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And you know, even think of you.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
What if your kids holding on to you like a
koala on red bull, you know, then.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You've just got a grass harder to get them off.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, apparently it builds, It builds resilience inpendent. They're going
to have to do it eventually, but just to have
regard that if I just say, am I a bad
parent about this? If you're worried, and the machine will
come and we'll give you good advice. It's the modern world.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's not a machine.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's just a.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Compilation of a compilation all the research exactly compiles it
and then it says and then it says, it says, look,
you're doing the right thing. Because that's what a child
psychologist or a educates
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The smartest smart exactly make up smartest thing in the world,
Time for barriers bits morning mates wed.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yes, the boomers in the house. Yes, old fella, you
just I just made it.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
You're just a boomer.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I still cop it from my kids. Good one, Boomer. Okay, Boomer, Yeah, okay, boomer. Yeah,
you don't know what you're talking about. And now it's
been proven on right, Lease, we are the happiest workers.
And I know exactly why.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I know exactly why too.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yes, the closest to ending working, they're closest to be
able to.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hang out the boots.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
They're the ones with the biggest super bowlet Why.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Do you do you say? You know why? Is it
the same reason?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, that survey is quite interesting, isn't. We've we've fixed
up the millennials. We're much better than more of the millennials.
They're sort of eighty one to ninety sixth twenty nine
to forty four.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, they're miserable.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
They're the most miserable, apparently, according to this new report
from sick Well, apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And West Australians are the happiest workers too, said there
as well, sixty nine percent or something, which is sixty
two percent.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's probably something to do with the pay rate.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, maybe five phone and stuff like that. That can
be challenging, but boomers are the happiest because we have
survived some stuff. I can't believe how good the millennials
get it now. Seriously, it's with all the worker boomer.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I agree, they may beg to different, but we go on.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, your case with all the worker rights and everything
that goes on nowadays, much easier.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We never had that.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well what about this, We had to come into the office.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I believe, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We couldn't just go.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm going to work from home.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I don't think I will.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I'm having a dona.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And what about this when we started? When I started
no internet, no internet, no internet, and then when.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You barely a fat and then when you had to
unplug the phone to be able to use the facts, I.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Had a machine.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And then when you start getting Internet, it was that
weird noise and slow dialing, get off the phone on
the internet, no search bars, no Google, so he couldn't
just google something. He had to use an encyclopedia. And
who remembers buffering.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, just going do this because we've done the hard guards.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Happy.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No mobile phones, people smoking at their desk, nest blowing
smoke all of you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, that was a common thing in radio, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Getting Jack the Dancer, I mean, no bloody private happens,
no private conversations you had because there's no mobile the facts.
As you mentioned. Then with that ugly weird paper they
used to have in the strange noises half the time
it didn't work. Photocopies always jammed.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But that hasn't change.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
And least what about typewriters. Try to explain to the
many lens listening what a what a manual typewriter was
like to change the ribbon caught the ribbon, Matt, it
was absolutely Shisenhausen.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm still going by the theory that you're the happiest
because you're the closest to not doing it anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But I do I think they're all valid points.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What we came through. We are the Golden generation. We
built Australia.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
What's interesting in this survey it says, you know, baby
boomers are the most likely to be the happiest, Millennials
and Gen z are not. It says the youngest workers
also face the greatest workplace challenges, with forty seven percent
reporting burnout and exhaustion from their jobs, and forty one
percent often dreading going to work. You don't face any
more workplace challenges than anyone else. It's not like you
(03:37):
don't get more workplace challenges just because you're twenty five.
It's everyone's facing the same challenges. Some people just handle
them better.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is it social media? Maybe? Because if you do get
sacked and that everyone knows doesn't help. You know this,
we could make friends without emojis.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We couldn't, well you couldn't you use the rock emoji
and you're in the HR office.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, millennials lose their mind if the Wi Fi imagine
Christmas part.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I blame social media and HR for ruining everything.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
They did clean up a bit of the you know,
Christmas party stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I think we're the second happy because you're in
a different generation where Gen X and we're I think
we're second generation. We're the second happiest generation.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah life, So we like, we know Wi Fi drops out,
my kids, we get we got it's got five seconds,
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
What we had to do was adjust the TV antenna
sitting on top of the TV.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And then and then stay there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We were the antenna exactly were the boomers remember life
without screens? Millennials can't. They can't last ten minutes without
checking their phone.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Okay, but yeah, God, I hate that expression hate.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I hate it on behind when they.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Use it on us because we're not We're not boomers.
Chat with Russell embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Got a text we have rob in Eglinton says, Hi,
what advice do you give your kids about finding happiness?
How do you encourage it? What are the little things
that make you happy?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Deep question? Deep questions? They tests, don't they.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I might have to go to Google on that one.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I'll tell you about a in a minute. But
I've got something I reckon finding happiness. I reckon it's
about the little things, but noticing stuff as well. Like
you walk outside and it's a beautiful dagger hair goods.
This it's like the Castle. We take on the Castle
attitude tag the serenity.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Take in what's around you. There are amazing things around you.
You just open your eyes.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Look at the jack around a tree across the road.
Jack around the trees are the best.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It's beautiful. It's making a hell of a mess though.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Good food good and like the Castle, good food, it's
this darlin. What's that on top day? That's what she say,
dressing the best meal ever, fresh sheets. You know you're
getting the bed and you just got the seeds of
(06:12):
the most well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's actually not one of the most underrated things in
the world. I think everyone.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I think everybody loves that. Yeah, it's all my sexy,
isn't it. Be grateful, that's true. We'll give you that.
What am I grateful for? I was grateful for when
my son I played golf with my son and he
said to me, Dad, you know I'll never put from
the rough. And now you've got to be a golfer
(06:38):
to kind of understand that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That has a double meaning.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It doesn't have a double meaning. There please, there's tomorrow.
Golf is right, you can't come back.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Don't leave me here on my own with him.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Don't cut from the fringe. That's probably that's not got either, getting.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Rob Just get them to enjoy the little things in life,
wonderful things in the world, and just let them get
them to appreciate.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
All the all the golf.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Texting.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Look and now a very good friend, a very good
friend of mine, O lover. She's she's a beauty. She
told me the other day that she used AI to
pump her own ties up. She got under chat but
to reassure herself that what she'd just done happens a
lot and it's no big deal. So what had happened?
(07:38):
She was she thought she was a bad parent because
she went to daycare, dropped her child off and the
child was still crying when she left.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That probably has happened to everything.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I think that's that's a pretty ye.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I mean, I know, and that's what chat GP said.
Feel listen, don't worry. This situation is extremely common, it said,
it said nothing negative about your parenting separation. Crying is normal,
not harmful. It's it's I prefer you rather than these
people here, mum. But you know, but you're doing the
right thing most stop crying straight away when once you
leave you go and cry in your cappuccino, and the.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You're putting yourself out of a gig.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
If you're going to tell people to get their dad
vice or mum vius from chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, I tell you what. I was surprised that she
said she did that, and it made a difference being
talked to by a machine. But it is it is, well,
it is and staying longer longer sometimes makes it harder,
doesn't It probably.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Makes it worse.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And just putting off.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You're not abandoning them. It's like when you drop your dog. Exactly,
he's on your.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Legs and as soon as I go, they said, oh,
you know, she was great.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
She just went straight up to the dog, you know,
and the kennel next to her and said, what, come
out and play?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And you know, even think of you.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
What if your kids holding on to you like a
koala on red bull, you know, then.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You've just got a grass harder to get them off.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, apparently it builds, It builds resilience inpendent. They're going
to have to do it eventually, but just to have
regard that if I just say, am I a bad
parent about this? If you're worried, and the machine will
come and we'll give you good advice. It's the modern world.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's not a machine.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
It's just a.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Compilation of a compilation all the research exactly compiles it
and then it says and then it says, it says, look,
you're doing the right thing. Because that's what a child
psychologist or a educates
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The smartest smart exactly make up smartest thing in the world,
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