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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Sleep issues that can be just debilitating. They can And
I read some research this week that separate beds can
lead to better sleep by eliminating disturbances of your partner
like snoring, restlessness, and different sleep schedules, allowing each person
to customize their sleep environment.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
But there's such a people get all worried that it means.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Well, I don't like you. No, it's it's it's It
can be very sensible. The research says it is important
to communicate openly with your partner about why you are
choosing separate beds. Don't just you know, have them come
home to find their doners in the other room to
ensure it isn't.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
A symptom of other issues.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
But the benefits of sleeping separately include reduced disturbance from
snoring and restless sleep or movement, customized environment. You can
set your ideal room temperature, You're not dealing with the
you know, the temperature needs of someone else, and it
can also lead to better objective sleep quality and longer
(00:59):
sleep dury.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
These are probably affecting older couples more than younger couples.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't know, I mean that you can snoring can
be a.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Killer of sleep at any age. You know people that
just just wriggle around all over the place, or ones
that you know, run hot or cold compared to how
you do.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Maybe that's why it was so common in old movies
and TV shows. They it was always separate people.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Well, was the were Carolyn Mike Brady the first, I.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Think to shack it up? I think they were. They
broke new ground. It was very very controversial.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It was very controversial, very controversial.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But extra bedrooms are apparently becoming more frequent by a request.
People are looking really for this.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So I like my own bathroom, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, yes, I think separate bathrooms, I mean are very
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Extra bathrooms and now extra bedrooms as well. So I look,
what what in your house? Not your house, Lisa, in
your house? Yeah, what's the what's the sleeping issue?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
What's the sleep issue in your house? And how do
you deal with it? Tomorra in Swan Valley on the
text said October will be our twentieth wedding anniversary. And
we've never.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Shared a room.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Never, because we talked about the benefits of not actually
sharing a room.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Not even trying.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Never shared a room. Hobby Leaves for work at four am.
No reason for both of us to be awake from
four am. And so, I you know, I get to
have an always feminine room and his room is masculine
and it works perfect.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I guess they have.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Posters on the wall.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
They have a little you know, color.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Scheme, different color schemes.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No dates, color schemes. Sure, I'm thinking of little you know.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'll meet you in the okay, by the linen press.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Not in the linen press. No hang around tomorrow. I'm sorry, okay,
but I think I think where going.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I don't know you'd slept talking about tomorrow's tomorrow has
texted back. No need to apologize, least a date night comment.
Very very funny, and I have been asked if I
wanted to call a taxi.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Darren import Kennedy says the sleep issue at his house
are the two fifty kilo dogs.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
That think their lapdogs and instant sleeping on our bed.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And they both snore, but they're a little hard to
kick out.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well at fifty kilos a dog, yes they are.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Let's go to Claremont. Michael, Good morning, morning.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Michael, good well, well are you well rested? Oh he's gone.
Oh Michael, speak closer to the phone.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Okay, I'm still I'm still awake. I haven't been to
bed yet.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh it's that bad, is it?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
No? No, what happened was I had a bit of
a sort of like a nap yesterday afternoon and as
a result, completely ruined my sleep patterns. So this morning
I've been I've been listening on music all my sort
of thing. But I'm actually beginning to feel But no,
(04:09):
it's all right. Actually, what what what I do with
my with with with the sleeping parents? With my ex
wife and I, we used to we used to sleep
in separate rooms. Yeah, but she had really bad, bad,
bad back problems and uh and apparently I snow that
didn't really help. So basically, the cut on story showed
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the best way we resolved down sleeping parents is to
to go a separate ways and actually started sleeping better.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So you're sleeping better since you got divorced.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, well that's that's an extreme action, but I guess
that's what.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That happened to be done.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
And avoiding anan and app in the afternoon, I think
was the other thing I took from that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, thank you, Michael, Michael Karen in one room.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Karen, Hello, good morning, how are you going? Well?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Refreshed? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Yeah, this is probout eight years ago. I was sent
off for allergy testing and I had to have a
sleep study done and they diagnosed me with sleep apnea
but also restless legs. So my husband and I decided, well,
we didn't decide. He suddenly decided to sleep in the
spare room and I couldn't work out why it was.
Eventually you said, oh, yeah, you just you just wriggled
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like a worm. So, like you said before, it's really
important that you actually tell your partner. Why then moving
into the other room so that it can be quite upset,
I just go. So I was like, oh, okay, what's
happening here? But but now it's it's menopause is just horrendous.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You got that the doner's on the well, you're eating
the house and the next minute you're freezing cold.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, but the brain won't turn off. It's like you
go and expect this relaxing sensation in your man. It's like, oh,
I should have done, I should have done Like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
For me, it was just the.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Heat that yeah, and see we're getting into that season
now where one might want the winter doner as still
and the other wants the summer donner. And so what
do you do do you have to dinners and you
have the the Berlin wall down the middle?
Speaker 6 (06:22):
I mean, what's no you have separate rooms?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
What if you don't have that sense? Thank you, Karen, thank.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You so much that it would be the couch for me.
We don't have a spare room.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I can't put the kids in together that I've got
to bring the house down.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And I think we'll we're going to talk to a
doctor next.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, we're going to We're going to get hold of it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
We're going to go to the top. We're going to
go to an expert.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
As we Apparently you're not putting much store in what
I suggest.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
No, no, let's let's hear from someone who actually knows
what they're talking about. Qualified went to university. Well I
know you did, but not about sleep.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I know your pain, Anna, I really do, all.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Right, Sarah, Speaking of doners, Sarah is on the on
the line from Eglington. What's your sleep issue? Have you
dealt with it?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
Hello, I'm a bit of a riggler.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
I have a bad bet and I'm talking and turning
both the night. I like my feet sticking out of bed,
like to all rubbed up. So we just decided we
wanted to be in the same room, the same bed.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, so we.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Both speak a bed and we got two doners.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Oh so you went for the king size and your
own donner.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And two double donners to get the cool size in right?
And then well, so I can pull away on the
blank kets and it doesn't it doesn't affect him at all.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I believe who hogged the covers has ruined many a
relationship in throughout history, and I think that this is
a very I think this is probably the best advice
we're going to hear all day.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
How did you go going into snooze explaining that to
the salespeople, going, look, we need this size? Why do
you need to and then explaining the situation that would
have been a head scratcher.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
We did have a bit of a giggle because we
have actually on the bed and tested it out because
at first we've got two single dinners.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh no, no, we have to grey.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So now we've got so many bloodys in the house.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you have matching diner covers though, so it looks
like one big doner.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Absolutely, you've got to get to strike find the way.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh, Sarah, that's that's genius. Thank you so much, Sarah.
Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, all right, we're going to the top. We have
a sleep expert, doctor Melissa Ree.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Hello morning, Melissa, doctor.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Melissa is a sleep expert from Sleep Matters Insomnia Solutions.
What are the most common sleep issues you do see
in people?
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Sleep? Sleep issues are really common and they come in
all sorts of different shapes and sizes, but probably a
couple of the most common we see in the clinic
would be insomnia, which is where people are having trouble
falling asleep or staying asleep and feeling pretty rough during
the day. And we know that about thirty percent of
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Australian adults have got symptoms of insomnia. We also work
a lot with people with bodyclock issues or Cicadian rhythm,
the serpences, that's what we call it. So this could
be shift workers, PIPO workers, It could be people that
are sleeping having trouble sleeping at the right time. So
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it could be teenagers that are a night towels can't
get up on time in the morning.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It could be.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Adults that are falling asleep in front of the telling
at eight pm, but then they're kind of ready to
start their day at two or three am, which can
feel pretty unsociable for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Have you heard of this thing about people having separate
bedrooms and beds and are you noticing that on the
rise in your practice?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Well, we certainly do see it, and I think as
awareness about sleep and it's importance, and people are prioritizing
their sleep health. More people are considering what they can
do to really get their sleep health in better shape.
And certainly because sleep can have such a big impact
on relationships. You know, we feel grumpy when we're not
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well slept. We can feel resempful if there's one partner
the other the night. We do see people, you know,
really having to consider. Is a separate bed or a
separate doner or a separate bedroom even the right solution
for us?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So, where would you advise people, because I mean it
really is a serious thing. Where would you advise people
go to look for their solutions? Do they come to
see you? Is there somewhere they can look online is
where's the starting point.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Oh look, there's thankfully there's lots of great information. So
for general facts about sleep, I definitely recommended this Sleep
Health Foundation, hundreds of evidence based, expert written fact sheets.
In terms of treatment, absolutely yeah, sleep matters. You know what,
We're dealing with poor sleepers and sleep disorders every day.
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But of course people's GP.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Okay, really important to go on this, but don't sort
of laugh it off. It can be there are things
that can be done fixed. Doctor Melissay, thank you so
much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
See thank you for the Health Foundation. There's your starting
point
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Absolutely on the lines, so there's some help for sleeping