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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dying to no day, Marney, I'll put that picture of
myself in a coffin up on the Yes, it is
a bit for long, but well it is for one.
People are putting shocked emojis up there.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He shocked, Well, I guess in that instance, like when
I'm talking about that, like I mean, usually you're only
in there when you're actually passed. So I have that experience.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's it's you squabs up. But I want to be
buried at sea, out in front of my beach house
up north. Take me out?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Can you actually do that?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Though?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You can't just dum you know, I'm not being disrespectful,
but they can't just put you out.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was thinking, like the Vikings put me on a
log raft, wrap me in some sheets, he shoot me
with some arrows.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Can they do that? Lisa? Can he can? Can he
be put out on the raft? I don't think that's allowed,
is it?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And the fact the matter is you simply wouldn't get
the heat in a Viking funeral to cremate you the
way I think you want to be cremated. You can
be buried at sea, but I know you want to
be in this ocean at Unfortunately, you would have to
be taken out several kilometers and make sure you're not
(01:06):
in a shipping channel. So yeah, you can be buried
at sea, but there are certain rules so you don't
want to be hit by a tanker.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, No, I'm not told Love, it's not funny. And look,
I've been through I've been through this process because we've
lost a family member. And I'm not trying to make
hard of anyone's passing in a family but I mean
he's going to end up in the channel at some
point if he's be anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Flood around campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, waited to fair enough.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Is with us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She has written a book called The Bottom Drawer Book
on Dying to No Day. Good morning, Lisa, Yes, good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Morning, good to chat on Dying to No Day? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, Now tell us about it. Firstly, what's it all about?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes, So, Dying to No Day is an Australian invention.
It was launched back in twenty thirteen and it happens
on August State every year. The theme this time is
nobody he Knows and that kind of is a campaign
to explain the absurdity of keeping your wishes to yourself
at your end of life, because that only causes as
(02:10):
to the grief, it causes confusion and often family dramas
of people arguing about where where to bury Dad. It's like, oh, no,
Dad wanted to be buried here. No, there's no way
I'm doing that. Let's do this. And so it just
seems nuts that we can't talk about this stuff. And
the government did a survey a few years ago and
(02:31):
they found that more than half of us are not
comfortable having a chat with intergenerationally in our family, so
with our parents or grandparents.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's tough. My dad passed last year, it was it
was tough talking to him about, you know, what he
was going through and what he was thinking about. I
actually gave him your book, Lisa, to the bottom of
the book. I think it actually eased him a little bit,
which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I do understand that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean from it's been a very normal conversation in
my family, Lisa, because my sister passed away in nineteen
eighty nine, so we had to have family chats about
it then, and I know my mum's wishes and we
had to make some family decisions, and I mean, we
have those conversations, but I guess because we've actually been
through that process. It is something that at the time
it was like, well, gosh, what do we do here?
(03:18):
If you know what I mean. But we were only
talking about it again the other day because we I've
actually got a space, a family, you know, space to go.
But I guess there are times where people feel a
bit uncomfortable about it. But I do look at it
as every stage of life. It is, well, it's the end,
isn't it. But it is a stage that why would
you not tell someone what your final wishes are?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely right. And the thing about having these
discussions like on days like today is and having them
before you hit that grief tome. It's because you can
have a chat about them, have a little bit of joke,
find out information. And today is a great excuse to
call a funeral director and say, hey, I've always wanted
to know, how do you how do I know that
(04:01):
my mom's ashes are actually my mum's ashes? You know, today,
I'm giving you the permission to do that stuff because
we may as well talk about it, because if we don't,
it's so confusing. It is.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know, I just said to you Campai yesterday, I
saw this. I saw a little video that went viral
of a family that had gone out on a boat
Campo to release somebody's ashes. That was their final final
wish and they had some music going Lisa, but this
was was kind of like, hey, be careful if you
do this. They'd actually gone on Spotify to play a
particular song right as they were releasing their dad's ashes,
but it said make sure you've built Spotify Premium because
(04:38):
an ad came up in the middle with a fart
sound effect. But they did say, I know, they did
say Dad would have loved that. He would have just
loved the fact that right in the middle of the
memorable song there's a fart sound.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Effect about exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Flatulence and what you need to do to relieve those
symptoms with some product.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, that's right, we're gonna have to leave there in Lisa,
what's your book the bottom drawbok? Where can people get it?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Bottom drawbook dot com today you it's your after death
action plan so you can write this stuff down.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Awesome, Thanks Lisa Herbert. That's what people are talking about
dying to now day
Dying to no day, Marney, I'll put that picture of
myself in a coffin up on the Yes, it is
a bit for long, but well it is for one.
People are putting shocked emojis up there.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He shocked, Well, I guess in that instance, like when
I'm talking about that, like I mean, usually you're only
in there when you're actually passed. So I have that experience.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's it's you squabs up. But I want to be
buried at sea, out in front of my beach house
up north. Take me out?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Can you actually do that?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Though?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You can't just dum you know, I'm not being disrespectful,
but they can't just put you out.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I was thinking, like the Vikings put me on a
log raft, wrap me in some sheets, he shoot me
with some arrows.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Can they do that? Lisa? Can he can? Can he
be put out on the raft? I don't think that's allowed,
is it?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And the fact the matter is you simply wouldn't get
the heat in a Viking funeral to cremate you the
way I think you want to be cremated. You can
be buried at sea, but I know you want to
be in this ocean at Unfortunately, you would have to
be taken out several kilometers and make sure you're not
(01:06):
in a shipping channel. So yeah, you can be buried
at sea, but there are certain rules so you don't
want to be hit by a tanker.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, No, I'm not told Love, it's not funny. And look,
I've been through I've been through this process because we've
lost a family member. And I'm not trying to make
hard of anyone's passing in a family but I mean
he's going to end up in the channel at some
point if he's be anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Flood around campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, waited to fair enough.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Is with us.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
She has written a book called The Bottom Drawer Book
on Dying to No Day. Good morning, Lisa, Yes, good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Morning, good to chat on Dying to No Day? Thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, Now tell us about it. Firstly, what's it all about?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yes, So, Dying to No Day is an Australian invention.
It was launched back in twenty thirteen and it happens
on August State every year. The theme this time is
nobody he Knows and that kind of is a campaign
to explain the absurdity of keeping your wishes to yourself
at your end of life, because that only causes as
(02:10):
to the grief, it causes confusion and often family dramas
of people arguing about where where to bury Dad. It's like, oh, no,
Dad wanted to be buried here. No, there's no way
I'm doing that. Let's do this. And so it just
seems nuts that we can't talk about this stuff. And
the government did a survey a few years ago and
(02:31):
they found that more than half of us are not
comfortable having a chat with intergenerationally in our family, so
with our parents or grandparents.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's tough. My dad passed last year, it was it
was tough talking to him about, you know, what he
was going through and what he was thinking about. I
actually gave him your book, Lisa, to the bottom of
the book. I think it actually eased him a little bit,
which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I do understand that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean from it's been a very normal conversation in
my family, Lisa, because my sister passed away in nineteen
eighty nine, so we had to have family chats about
it then, and I know my mum's wishes and we
had to make some family decisions, and I mean, we
have those conversations, but I guess because we've actually been
through that process. It is something that at the time
it was like, well, gosh, what do we do here?
(03:18):
If you know what I mean. But we were only
talking about it again the other day because we I've
actually got a space, a family, you know, space to go.
But I guess there are times where people feel a
bit uncomfortable about it. But I do look at it
as every stage of life. It is, well, it's the end,
isn't it. But it is a stage that why would
you not tell someone what your final wishes are?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely right. And the thing about having these
discussions like on days like today is and having them
before you hit that grief tome. It's because you can
have a chat about them, have a little bit of joke,
find out information. And today is a great excuse to
call a funeral director and say, hey, I've always wanted
to know, how do you how do I know that
(04:01):
my mom's ashes are actually my mum's ashes? You know, today,
I'm giving you the permission to do that stuff because
we may as well talk about it, because if we don't,
it's so confusing. It is.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know, I just said to you Campai yesterday, I
saw this. I saw a little video that went viral
of a family that had gone out on a boat
Campo to release somebody's ashes. That was their final final
wish and they had some music going Lisa, but this
was was kind of like, hey, be careful if you
do this. They'd actually gone on Spotify to play a
particular song right as they were releasing their dad's ashes,
but it said make sure you've built Spotify Premium because
(04:38):
an ad came up in the middle with a fart
sound effect. But they did say, I know, they did
say Dad would have loved that. He would have just
loved the fact that right in the middle of the
memorable song there's a fart sound.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Effect about exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Flatulence and what you need to do to relieve those
symptoms with some product.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, that's right, we're gonna have to leave there in Lisa,
what's your book the bottom drawbok? Where can people get it?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Bottom drawbook dot com today you it's your after death
action plan so you can write this stuff down.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Awesome, Thanks Lisa Herbert. That's what people are talking about
dying to now day
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