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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Post unite our voices, we respectfully acknowledge them are too
far to our r kpeople of Tomiki Makoto is the
traditional custodians of the land from which just was created.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hi. I'm Christal Kinzella.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm a proud Jarwin Moraji woman, a supply diversity expert
and published author. Welcome to Meet Them All, a podcast
series dedicated to showcasing black excellence in Indigenous business. Here
I get to interview Deadly First Nation business owners from
around the country and learn about their why Tenna cut Tour.
Greetings to all and welcome to this special edition Meet
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the Mob Alted Or. In this special edition, I'm joined
by Maldi and Pacifica businesses from across New Zealand. Today,
I'm joined by Rachel Petzol from Rith Global, who will
share with us who, why, why she got into business
and why she does what she does. So let's kick
it off, Yorda, Rachel Yoda, Crystal Hell, are you a
really good?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Tell us who you are? Who's your mob killed out?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
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be here.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, it's fantastic to have you.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Now.
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I want to jump.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Into why you do what you do, but I have
to really set the seed about how we know each other.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Please go, yes, Aria, and I think.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You will want to annoy that because you were someone
I've looked up to and admired for quite a long time.
First meet you in twenty eighteen when you were part
of the organization of the World Invisionous Business Forum.
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In draw which is where I'm living at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't believe it right how worlds go around, but
I just remember, you know, communication with you being on stage.
I came over here with two weeks old baby, I remember,
and remember.
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I had to run off stage.
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But since then, I mean, our worlds have continuously come
backwards and forwards and connected and shared, and we've been
able to be at WIBF in Colombia, we've just been
at your ewery event here in old But through coaching
and lots of activities, we've just been able to connect
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these indigenous sisters across the TASMI I truly appreciate you,
so I really wanted just to acknowledge that. Yeah, and
I think that's really important. You know, the fuck up
puppa and the history that we already have together. And
you know, as much as you acknowledge me, I acknowledge you, Crystal,
for all of the week that you've been doing for
your people. I saw you throughout that voice year of
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really advocating for your people, and and so I am
inspired by you. So I think we're here for a reason.
We are definitely, and I think people come into your
life definitely reasons. And it's been great that we've been
able to support each other on our journeys.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
But let's get to your essence.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You know, you are out there striving to rise up women,
to instill them with confident and self esteem, but also
the background of coaching skills and and know and all
of that, like, tell us you know what is your why?
So I think I didn't have a have a choice. Actually,
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if I think of now, yep, and if I think
about all the strong women before me that set the
pathway for me. I really was always meant to be
in this space of uplifting women, making sure that they
have the belief in themselves that they can do anything. Yeah,
but often we need a lot of reminding about that
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that palast and everything that we already have within ourselves.
So yeah, my calling, I think came from my very
strong lak. You know, my mum is seventy one. She's
still teaching at the school that I went to, so
she's not going to retire at all. What we do
my two grandmothers, one really strong and the kingi Tanna
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and wait until Tinui part of the lopatu, you know,
taking back of our men's and also my other grandmother
who was all about faith. And so when you had
that stroll those strong role models, then we had a
Mahati queen to Totoikahu, we had we had Pepuya hid
Ami and all of those women. You know, they inspired
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me and and so really I think that's my job.
And business is a job. So you know that's what
we're here to talk about. Well, it's the vehicle, right,
you don't have that impact, So talk to us about
Roy's global. Yeah, So Rio's global comes from a problem
that I saw when I got back to al Teodora.
So I got back here in twenty fifteen, sixteen years abroad.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Nobody wants to know about that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You know that what I say you know, what are
you going to do when you get back to Old Tiodoro?
And I thought, first I thought I was going to
do a corporate job, because you know, I've been away.
What was I going to do? I had this vision
about my business rights before I came back to New Zealand.
And all I remember is seeing I think about it,
I feel a bit emotional. Is like a hell full
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of women and the first porpity that I went to,
that's the traditional welcome here in Old Tiodoro. One of
the queer, one of the older women who called our
song through cardana.
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As we were going around afterwards.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
She said, oh, I never met it before, she said,
come here, but I did watch starts me. She said,
you know I saw you coming on and I just
want to tell you that there are a whole lot
of people behind you, and I just you know, it's
those moments we think what I was thinking about doing
when to come home. Somehow it's going to come to fruition.
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I just need to believe in it totally, because those
all people know ry weighing all that need will we do?
And so you know it's all these too, and it's
all these signs that have brought me back. So Rise
comes because I'm an internationally accredited coach and when I
came home, I was looking for another internationally accredited coach
who I could get coaching from. I believe in coaching.
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It helped me to move into my business. And now
I couldn't find anyone who is mary or Pacific. I thought,
it's strange, and why are there no other Marya Pacific coaches?
And so that was the problem that I needed to solve,
was not just I wanted to be the only Marian
Pacific indigenous coach. And then I started talking about indigenous
coaching and everyone was like, what's that. I said, well,
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that's us deciding what we want to do in the
coaching space of that coaching industry and actually paving away
for a coaching industry, which is basically what Rise has done.
We've sort of taken that space and take your space
and decided how we want to be in the coaching space.
So all of our models are indigenous models of coaching.
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We've taken some from Mardi's, some from Pacifica, and then
I've created my own coaching model. First one first indigenous
coaching model in the world called Jupiteray. But yeah, and
so we're doing things our way. And so when I
talk about RISE, I talk about decolonizing and indigenizing learning
pathways and how we learn. We really focus on leadership, coaching,
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and business and those are our three and stay in LA.
If someone comes and ask me to do some TEDDL
classes or some TTDT classes or you know, be part
of that, I say no, No, I know way better
people that can do that, not me. So I really
make sure that we stand I've been doing it here
ten years. Next year of what a celebration.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's such an achievement.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm ten years in business as well, in two different businesses,
but still be out self employed, which is it's such
a feed and it's such a buzz. Yeah, and I'm
totally think we need to celebrate the Yeah, we'll be
celebrating together next year, bullets. Totally totally. So look, I
want to take you back. It was twenty twenty two.
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I think it's the first time I'm doing an international
trip post COVID YEP, and I'm flying into Bogata and
then all this bust down to Villa Visentia and I'll
see you under a trea like the World Indigenous Business
for him, and you had an idea and you were talking.
You wanted to talk to me and you were like,
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would you come on board for Australia. I want to
host this event called Indigenous.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Women in the Industry. And I was like, yeah, sign
me up, come in. And then later I see you
did on the.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Stage and you announce this, and I mean it must
have been a proud moment for you to fast forward
to this year and you had only two hundred women
that started here in Auckland and made their way to
the world and just had such great cordial and sharing
and connecting. Like it was an experience for me. But
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you know what are some of your reflections about the
event that it what it served to create the outcome? Yeah,
I think I did. It was a vision that became
a reality. The same with Rise and I think you've
got a dream first and you've got a dream big.
And so i'd be talking about something for a Wild
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Indigenis business forum that really focused on women. And I
spoke to the other amazing woman, Rosa A. Walker as
president of Wild Indoger's business form. She said, yes, yes,
but you need to do it that okay, First work
it out somehow, and so I've been talking about it,
and you know, we can talk and talk and talk,
but actually we need.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
To do something.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yes, And so when I got to Bogatar, just like, yeah,
we traveled and we got that for Wow, we're in
a place of via vice ching that actually has ninety
two different indigenous cultures in the one place.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It was incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It was incredible. So I felt inspired there and I
think what happened with the World Indigenous Business Forum. I've
been going since twenty seventeen. You know, you have come
along on many of those dunis, and we've been able
to travel the world. But what I really noticed is
that waiting there and women still are the minority in
those spaces. So we're talking about an Indigenous business forum, yeah,
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and then I go to.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Other business forums international ones, Yeah, that are non Indigenous,
and we're still belanority.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You and I chokenly believe that we need to make
sure that we have representation and we have the voice
whereever we are in business. And so that's where EWE
came from. Fast forward to twenty twenty four. Yeah, seven days,
seven days, not just a two day conference.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I really ambitious you know that.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, yeah, so it was ambitious, but actually what it
ended up being was quite an intimate seven days. So
normally you and I will fly in, Yeah, we'll fly
into these international conferences, will be there the day before,
we'll do the conference, and we'll leave. And one thing
that I've learned through that is that I like to
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come in early. I like to have some time for
myself for self care, and then I like to stay
afterwards a little bit as well. So when I decided
that we wanted to have this first one of Ewe
indigenous woman in the industry here in Alteredora, I wanted
to make sure that the monarchy tongue taking care of
people was our priority. So that's why we did seven days.
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We had to cut back on a few things, but
never the never the teakung or the protocols or the
monarchy tongue of people. So hopefully you felt that I
did one hundred percent the cultural immersion in a leader
with such an experience. I mean, I've traveled to old
after the last eight years and I feel like such
a king with your culture and people here. You know,
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the experience to go into the king Etangna was like
next level like.
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That was just really phenomenal for me. But then even the.
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Program of the summit was just incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And there's so.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Many people now that I'm so connected with posts that.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So yeah it was great.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, So I'm proud, but we've got so much more
to do. Yeah. So we're heading to Albuquque in October
and so delegation of EWE wating it. You're included. We'll
be on the stage. We'll have the global stage to
talk about the next fifth Revolution and industrial revolution, which
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is actually white and our economy. So I'm going to
talk about ourselves, how we're going to dream big, and
we're going to share that across different nations, different indigenous nations,
and then we're going to put a proposal to everyone,
which we're having a meeting about next week. So I
didn't see about it, Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah, we just
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celebrated our first though, Yes we did, and which was
really great for us to catch up over.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That and you know, you've expressed it. Ye, you're going
to have a bit of change happening for you coming
up soon. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Do you want to talk to us a little bit
about that? Yeah, So one of my big things is
taking care of myself and encouraging other way in then business,
that real holistic model of how we do business. I
don't believe that the traditional, the old ways work for us. Actually,
I think we need to prioritize ourselves first. So now
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cut up and then everyone take from the overflow. Yeah,
so what does that mean? That means for me in business?
Nine years I've been planning and preparing to take a
year off. Yeah, and so I get to do that
in twenty twenty five. It's so like incredible to be
able to say that and to have that ability because
you've done all the hard yards. You've done them may
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right to have your business established well enough that you
can step out and everything was still for sting, carry on. Yeah,
And so to do that you need to have a
great team. So I've got amazing teams and I have
a really I suppose it's a hybrid model. I come
from an HR background that used to look after lots
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of people. I believe in contractors actually, who are experts
who hit the grail runnings. I have twelve team members
who are absolutely amazing leaders. So they'll deliver next year.
I will give full authority to them.
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But I think that that has.
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Been my milestone of success, when you, as the founder
CEO can step back and the others take that space.
This is a really great example that you were setting
because I see too, of seven the expectation for us
in businesses that we we've got to be busy and
we've got to be burning ourselves out to be successful,
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and actually it's not, it's not that's not sustainable. So
I think this is such a great example for all
of Maudi and Indigenous ritual women in business to share
this that you know, you can set yourself up to
be able to do that, but self carries along the way, right,
because you can never give from an antic cup. And
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you know, in my business, I meet a lot of
women who have an indica and that's that's really what
we're doing is filling up every one's come totally so
beyond that year than year of any any plans in
the works at this point. Yeah, so I you know,
I have totally expectation that my team will just do
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what they need to do and do it way better
than I have ever done it. Yeah, and if it
goes well, carry on. But I have some big ambitions
I am setting up a foundation, the Rise Foundation, and
I think that we have an opportunity with the programs
that we already have to work even more with other
indigenous cultures around the world. And so I love travel, yeah,
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and I feel like I'm ready to do a little
bit more travel. Yeah. Still always have my base here.
Love you see and love my father, love my mode, Yeah,
love my EWI and I think we still want a
little bit more travel in me. So I think that
will allow me that global stage. And actually EWE is
part of that totally.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Well, the global world around us.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Well, we'll love to have all that value from you.
So look, if you've got a final message for my
viewers and my listeners, what would it be. Yep?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Number one is for our working down our women in business,
especially Indigenous women, is to really prioritize your self care
as part of your business model.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It ness to be planned in. You need to have
self care. If you look at your calendar, if you
look at a month and you don't see any calendars
that say self care or hoe water, yep, make sure
you fill your calendar up with that. Secondly, come and
join our tribe, especially for EWE and to our global
to your global audience. We are going to be in
Canada in twenty twenty six, Vancouver, We're going to be
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in Australia in twenty twenty eight and the US and
twenty thirty. Come and be part of the journey. Don't
just be part of the event. And then my final message,
because I love threes, My final message is that if
you have a vision and you have a dream, yeah,
believe in that dream and do whatever you have to
to make that dream come true. And be ready tickut
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and pull all to yourself. So be really honest with
yourself what you can achieve and have a plan. Yeah,
but don't be caught in that plan if it doesn't
work out. Yeah, be in the flow of what's meant
to happen. Believe in yourself. Kirkak kim Unawin Chulda, thank
you so much, Sochi and yeah, it's been a pleasure
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to have with my prayer. Really.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
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