June 1, 2025 • 15 mins
This special series of Meet the Mob was filmed in Aotearoa, New Zealand. We extend our thanks to Amotai Supplier Diversity for their support.
Meet Tony Gunn
Tony was born and raised in the small Māori community of Tikitiki on the East Cape of New Zealand’s North Island.
Tony spent 15 years in the retail motor vehicle industry, where he
progressed from a sales role to becoming a partner at a country Mazda-BMW dealership in Victoria, Australia.
For the past 23 years, Tony has owned and operated a promotional products business called 360 Degrees Focus. This business specializes in niche marketing a range of promotional products and branded accessories to franchised motor dealerships in Australia and New Zealand.
The TIKIMAN Promotions & TIKIMAN Workwear brands are a significant part of Tony's journey back to Aotearoa. It represents one of the avenues through which he is reconnecting with Māori and Pasifika communities. As a foundation member of Amotai, he has committed to contributing to Indigenous procurement opportunities in both Australia and New Zealand,
supporting the economic development of these communities.
TIKIMAN Promotions has been a minor sponsor of the Māori National Golf Championships for over 10 years, demonstrating his long-term commitment to supporting Māori sports and cultural events.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
We respectfully acknowledge them are too far to our r
KPP of Tamaki Makoto is the traditional custodians of the
land in which just was created.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi, I'm Crystal Kinsella. I'm a proud Jarwin and Moradri woman,
a supply diversity expert and published author. Welcome to Meet
the Mob, a podcast series dedicated to showcasing the black
excellence and Indigenous business. Here I get to interview deadly
First Nation business owners from around the country and learn
about their why tenno Koto kartor greetings to war and
(00:48):
welcome to this special edition Meet the Mob Alto. In
this special edition, I'm joined by Maldi and Pacifica businesses
from across New Zealand. Today, I'm joined by Tony Gung
from Tickiman Promotions and Tickiman Workwere who will share with
us He's wife, why God into business and why he
does what he does. So let's kick it off, Currea, Crystal,
(01:09):
Welcome to meet them more.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, thank you, tell us who you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Are and here's your mom.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So I was born in a little community up on
the East Cape of New Zealand, a place called Tiki Tiki.
I was a home birth, born on my uncle Mammy
Lukinnuku's kitchen table.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
He was the midwife.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think he had twelve kids and delivered I think
seven of them. So I was in safe hands when
I arrived. I've been fortunate. I've grown up. I grew
up winter Tiki Tiki Primary and spent my formative years
living with my grandparents primarily and on the farm, you.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Know, kicking around with all the sheep and the you know,
the cattle, the dogs. Great life, absolutely great life.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I look back on those times now and just feel
so privileged to have grown up, particularly also with a
huge extended family. So my mother was one of nineteen.
She was actually the second youngest of nineteen. So there
were three families connected to my mother's family, and we
(02:17):
all lived on farms close by, and so we we
spent afternoons after school on the river ealing and riding
horses everywhere, and you know, so we had this idyllic life.
We had this amazing bush that had interesting stuff in
my grandmother, Mataquio, getting it it was it was an
(02:38):
amazing mentor, you know, one of my first mentors.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So I was really fortunate. I feel very blessed to
have that sort of upbringing.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I went to a boarding school, famous Mali boarding school
down the Central Hawk's Bay in the sixties, a place
called Art College, and it was founded in eighteen fifty four,
so I mean it's an amazing for Maori boys.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So a school that's over one hundred and fifty years old,
which is quite amazing. You know. I always had plenty
of curiosity and always.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Passionate about, you know, different things and exploring different things.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Used to spend.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Hours in the bush and ours on the river, and
you know, with all my cousins, and we used to
have this amazing sort of time.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But I was keen to sort of spread my rings.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
And you know, sort of always wanted to travel, heard
these stories about traveling the world, and so I garnered
all my mates together, you know, after we were finishing college,
and there was five of us initially that were going
to travel, and then unfortunately they all made up excuses
(03:48):
and dropped off, you know, dropped off the list, and
I was the only one that actually got on the plane.
But so I've been traveling. I spent some time overseas
and then and then I ended up in Melbourne and
I had a family that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Billeted me because my boss. I saved up all this money.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Actually, I forgot to say that I saved up all
this money working in the Abatar.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So I went from boarding.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
School to the Avatar for about a year and a
half and saved all this money and that was that
afforded me to travel. But Australia has been a great
place to raise a family. But my ties have always
been with you know, with the mighty people and because
(04:38):
of my upbringing, because of where I come from.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, there's such a great synergy between our countries but
also our people. Because I've been coming backwards and forwards
to ol ted Or for the last eight years. I've
been living here this year and yeah, I just feel
feel really connected, like as you would be, feeling quite
connected and a part of Australia. And it's not a
(05:03):
bad place, like all the Maoris are heading to us.
He I.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, I still remember seeing you know, the first
Aboriginal I saw was David Gelbelm dancing in a Mumber
festival and just the movement and.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
The dark of his skin, the blackness of his skin
was quite I thought, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You know, it's been completely different and so I was
really a big admirer right from the geta and you
know saw different shows over the years that sort of
highlighted some of the indigenous issues. But you know, yes,
very similar, very similar to Maori and Pacific Islanders.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So the name of your business obviously comes from your hometown.
To the Tiki to tickam. Talk to us about you
know why you got into business.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yes, Look, I've always had a sort of interest in
doing and in exchanging, you know, services with different people.
It started when I was a kid. You know, we'd
get all the lambing season and we cut all the
towels and I put it on the fine I'd sell
it all to you know, to my cousins for a penny,
you know, all things like that, you know, so always looking.
(06:15):
And there was this Chinese guy who used to drive
around the East Cape and selling.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Vegetables and eggs and a few things.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
And one day he saw the naheaded the bush behind
behind our homestead and he said, he showed me this fungus.
He said, you find in the in the bush and
dry and put in a bag, and I'll come every
six months and buy from you. And so I think
I was seven, and so I started this little entrepreneurial
(06:43):
thing with fungi. So they were a special fungi that
they sent to China.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So I've always had it so business. Look, you've been
quite entrepreneurial, yes, right from the gecko.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So I always had a sort of interest in business.
And I was in Australia in Melbourne, you know, I
was working in the local avatar playing rugby and you know,
having a whale of a time.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, three Maori boys in a lovely house.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And it was full of mischief, full of mischief. But
in the end I formed a relationship with somebody and
she became pregnant. And so I thought to myself, christ
you know, I really need to start sort of taking
stock of where I'm at and what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And so I looked.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
You know, i'd matriculated, I've got university entrants, but I
hadn't used my brain for so long, you know, working
in the avatarse So I looked around, scanned the papers
to see what opportunities there were. The only thing I
could think of was a sales job. You know, I
didn't want to work for the government. I didn't want
to be a public servant. So I saw this job
(07:55):
and apprentice salesman for a car car business, and I thought, wow,
why didn't I try? So I had initial heated some
back to school stuff prior to that, so I wanted
to show that I was.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Moving, you know, trying to move in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I started a business diploma at night and sort of
got through the first year and qualified.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And then I applied for this job.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
And you know, I can remember today all these people
that I work with in the advertise saying you're going
to be a salesman?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What the hell you know? And I said, yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Problems, I'm going to be a salesman. I'll be a
very successful salesman. So yeah, long story short, I fell
on my feet. I found some good people that mentored
me and trained me, and then I started this career
in the car business and eventually sort of got sick
and tired of the long hours in a big dealership
(08:55):
working you know, working till late at night. I saw
an opportunity in a new dealership down on the morning
to Peninsula, which is a beautiful part of Melbourne's just
out of Melvin Beaches and you know, wineries and lovely, lovely, Yeah,
very ideally, and so there was a new Master dealership opening,
so I applied for a job, got the sales role
(09:17):
there and over twelve years worked my way into a
partnership with the owner and you know, we ended up
selling it because I didn't want to buy his share
without the real estate unfortunately, and he didn't want to
sell the real estate, so we both sold up. We
went out different ways. So yeah, so I've always been
(09:38):
involved from that day. I sort of started looking at
different opportunities with business and I started a business about
twenty five years ago servicing the car industry in Australia,
so with a whole range of accessories, branded accessories, branded merchandise.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So when you pick up your.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
New you know, your new Forward, you get a nice
gift box with a whole range of branded stuff. Started
doing business in China. So just learns, you know, just
learn on the job, really just learn from doing, you know,
and just had that sort of energy to just seek
it out and find it totally.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So what are some of the things that Tikerman provide.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So Tickyman currently in New Zealand. We've been doing quite
a bit of work with the council. Orton City Council.
There's a number of different entities within the council. So
there's a trades Apprentice scheme that we do a lot
of the packs for the young trade guys that are
coming in to do a course, and that varies, but
(10:44):
it's all branded merchandise. So branding the department, it might
be a backpack, a lunch box, a whole range of stuff.
But the promotional industry is branded merchandise. So it covers
a whole raft of things from conference merchant eyes to
(11:05):
branding new launches for businesses, to government initiatives. It's it's
it's an industry that's got lots of opportunities and lots
of you know, places to go.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And you've got a work where component as well as
that peep, we're just.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Launching a work where component because that's an area that
I saw through the Amotai environment where a lot of
the Maori and Pacific owned businesses were in the building industry.
And so I was a foundation member of Amotai in
its original form I think it was called Econore, I
(11:43):
think it was, yeah, And when I looked at the
the businesses in that in that you know rosta, I thought,
you know, there's a lot of builders, and so you know,
I looked around for a good supplier and this Irish
company that have been in business for over one hundred years,
(12:03):
they had just come into the Australian market and they
were about to open a distribution center here in Auckland.
So I went out and I had a meeting with
them and looked at their age and looked at their history,
and I thought, wow, you know, you couldn't get a
bit of partner to bring into the market. Somebody that's
you know, they have their own manufacturing around the world.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know, they're very.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Ecologically you know focused, and so it was, Yeah, it
was a match made in heaven as far as I
was concerned.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But it's early days. I mean, it's the work where
it is just about to kick off.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So you've been around the traps, You've had quite a
journey to this point in time. What's the legacy piece
for you then? What are you trying to create?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The motivation for me has always been, you know, around
my culture and where I come from.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's just been a strong part of who I am.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And so really my reconnecting with with New Zealand, you know,
about twelve years ago through the Malorti Golf Association has
given me an opportunity to to get some ideas and
meet some people, network back into the community. So I'm
really keen to sort of initiate some community projects where
(13:27):
we can bring back some ideas. Like for example, an
idea that I've been talking with a few people is
fundraising for Maris and creating a range of branded merchandise,
using young designers to design from from from those ewis
and and reconnecting with the with their their people in
(13:51):
the city. So so promoting the idea of raising some
funds for them Mari through merchandise, through the people and
through the EWI in the city. That because this is
the issue. You know, most of the country Marise, all the.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
People have moved into.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
The cities and so you know, I'm I'm I think
there's an opportunity there, but I'm interested in community projects.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That's great. Well, if you had a key message for
my audience, for my listeners out there, what would it be,
would you like to leave them with?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
For then, I you know, I mean another concept that
I'd like to sort of maybe get involved with down
the track is creating an entrepreneur or cause for Mali
in Pacific Islanders, and you know, I think I think
we're natural entrepreneurs, and I think there's there's an opportunity
there to to do something in the future. I've always
(14:45):
thought and said to my kids, you know, dream big
and aim high, and just get out there and be
enthusiastic for life, and you know, and and just embrace it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, thanks so much Tony for coming on my program today.
Are really siate it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
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We respectfully acknowledge them are too far to our r
KPP of Tamaki Makoto is the traditional custodians of the
land in which just was created.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hi, I'm Crystal Kinsella. I'm a proud Jarwin and Moradri woman,
a supply diversity expert and published author. Welcome to Meet
the Mob, a podcast series dedicated to showcasing the black
excellence and Indigenous business. Here I get to interview deadly
First Nation business owners from around the country and learn
about their why tenno Koto kartor greetings to war and
(00:48):
welcome to this special edition Meet the Mob Alto. In
this special edition, I'm joined by Maldi and Pacifica businesses
from across New Zealand. Today, I'm joined by Tony Gung
from Tickiman Promotions and Tickiman Workwere who will share with
us He's wife, why God into business and why he
does what he does. So let's kick it off, Currea, Crystal,
(01:09):
Welcome to meet them more.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yes, thank you, tell us who you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Are and here's your mom.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So I was born in a little community up on
the East Cape of New Zealand, a place called Tiki Tiki.
I was a home birth, born on my uncle Mammy
Lukinnuku's kitchen table.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
He was the midwife.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I think he had twelve kids and delivered I think
seven of them. So I was in safe hands when
I arrived. I've been fortunate. I've grown up. I grew
up winter Tiki Tiki Primary and spent my formative years
living with my grandparents primarily and on the farm, you.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Know, kicking around with all the sheep and the you know,
the cattle, the dogs. Great life, absolutely great life.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I look back on those times now and just feel
so privileged to have grown up, particularly also with a
huge extended family. So my mother was one of nineteen.
She was actually the second youngest of nineteen. So there
were three families connected to my mother's family, and we
(02:17):
all lived on farms close by, and so we we
spent afternoons after school on the river ealing and riding
horses everywhere, and you know, so we had this idyllic life.
We had this amazing bush that had interesting stuff in
my grandmother, Mataquio, getting it it was it was an
(02:38):
amazing mentor, you know, one of my first mentors.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So I was really fortunate. I feel very blessed to
have that sort of upbringing.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I went to a boarding school, famous Mali boarding school
down the Central Hawk's Bay in the sixties, a place
called Art College, and it was founded in eighteen fifty four,
so I mean it's an amazing for Maori boys.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So a school that's over one hundred and fifty years old,
which is quite amazing. You know. I always had plenty
of curiosity and always.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Passionate about, you know, different things and exploring different things.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Used to spend.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Hours in the bush and ours on the river, and
you know, with all my cousins, and we used to
have this amazing sort of time.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
But I was keen to sort of spread my rings.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
And you know, sort of always wanted to travel, heard
these stories about traveling the world, and so I garnered
all my mates together, you know, after we were finishing college,
and there was five of us initially that were going
to travel, and then unfortunately they all made up excuses
(03:48):
and dropped off, you know, dropped off the list, and
I was the only one that actually got on the plane.
But so I've been traveling. I spent some time overseas
and then and then I ended up in Melbourne and
I had a family that.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Billeted me because my boss. I saved up all this money.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Actually, I forgot to say that I saved up all
this money working in the Abatar.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So I went from boarding.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
School to the Avatar for about a year and a
half and saved all this money and that was that
afforded me to travel. But Australia has been a great
place to raise a family. But my ties have always
been with you know, with the mighty people and because
(04:38):
of my upbringing, because of where I come from.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, there's such a great synergy between our countries but
also our people. Because I've been coming backwards and forwards
to ol ted Or for the last eight years. I've
been living here this year and yeah, I just feel
feel really connected, like as you would be, feeling quite
connected and a part of Australia. And it's not a
(05:03):
bad place, like all the Maoris are heading to us.
He I.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, I still remember seeing you know, the first
Aboriginal I saw was David Gelbelm dancing in a Mumber
festival and just the movement and.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
The dark of his skin, the blackness of his skin
was quite I thought, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You know, it's been completely different and so I was
really a big admirer right from the geta and you
know saw different shows over the years that sort of
highlighted some of the indigenous issues. But you know, yes,
very similar, very similar to Maori and Pacific Islanders.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So the name of your business obviously comes from your hometown.
To the Tiki to tickam. Talk to us about you
know why you got into business.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yes, Look, I've always had a sort of interest in
doing and in exchanging, you know, services with different people.
It started when I was a kid. You know, we'd
get all the lambing season and we cut all the
towels and I put it on the fine I'd sell
it all to you know, to my cousins for a penny,
you know, all things like that, you know, so always looking.
(06:15):
And there was this Chinese guy who used to drive
around the East Cape and selling.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Vegetables and eggs and a few things.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
And one day he saw the naheaded the bush behind
behind our homestead and he said, he showed me this fungus.
He said, you find in the in the bush and
dry and put in a bag, and I'll come every
six months and buy from you. And so I think
I was seven, and so I started this little entrepreneurial
(06:43):
thing with fungi. So they were a special fungi that
they sent to China.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
So I've always had it so business. Look, you've been
quite entrepreneurial, yes, right from the gecko.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So I always had a sort of interest in business.
And I was in Australia in Melbourne, you know, I
was working in the local avatar playing rugby and you know,
having a whale of a time.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You know, three Maori boys in a lovely house.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And it was full of mischief, full of mischief. But
in the end I formed a relationship with somebody and
she became pregnant. And so I thought to myself, christ
you know, I really need to start sort of taking
stock of where I'm at and what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
And so I looked.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
You know, i'd matriculated, I've got university entrants, but I
hadn't used my brain for so long, you know, working
in the avatarse So I looked around, scanned the papers
to see what opportunities there were. The only thing I
could think of was a sales job. You know, I
didn't want to work for the government. I didn't want
to be a public servant. So I saw this job
(07:55):
and apprentice salesman for a car car business, and I thought, wow,
why didn't I try? So I had initial heated some
back to school stuff prior to that, so I wanted
to show that I was.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Moving, you know, trying to move in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I started a business diploma at night and sort of
got through the first year and qualified.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And then I applied for this job.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
And you know, I can remember today all these people
that I work with in the advertise saying you're going
to be a salesman?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What the hell you know? And I said, yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Problems, I'm going to be a salesman. I'll be a
very successful salesman. So yeah, long story short, I fell
on my feet. I found some good people that mentored
me and trained me, and then I started this career
in the car business and eventually sort of got sick
and tired of the long hours in a big dealership
(08:55):
working you know, working till late at night. I saw
an opportunity in a new dealership down on the morning
to Peninsula, which is a beautiful part of Melbourne's just
out of Melvin Beaches and you know, wineries and lovely, lovely, Yeah,
very ideally, and so there was a new Master dealership opening,
so I applied for a job, got the sales role
(09:17):
there and over twelve years worked my way into a
partnership with the owner and you know, we ended up
selling it because I didn't want to buy his share
without the real estate unfortunately, and he didn't want to
sell the real estate, so we both sold up. We
went out different ways. So yeah, so I've always been
(09:38):
involved from that day. I sort of started looking at
different opportunities with business and I started a business about
twenty five years ago servicing the car industry in Australia,
so with a whole range of accessories, branded accessories, branded merchandise.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So when you pick up your.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
New you know, your new Forward, you get a nice
gift box with a whole range of branded stuff. Started
doing business in China. So just learns, you know, just
learn on the job, really just learn from doing, you know,
and just had that sort of energy to just seek
it out and find it totally.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So what are some of the things that Tikerman provide.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So Tickyman currently in New Zealand. We've been doing quite
a bit of work with the council. Orton City Council.
There's a number of different entities within the council. So
there's a trades Apprentice scheme that we do a lot
of the packs for the young trade guys that are
coming in to do a course, and that varies, but
(10:44):
it's all branded merchandise. So branding the department, it might
be a backpack, a lunch box, a whole range of stuff.
But the promotional industry is branded merchandise. So it covers
a whole raft of things from conference merchant eyes to
(11:05):
branding new launches for businesses, to government initiatives. It's it's
it's an industry that's got lots of opportunities and lots
of you know, places to go.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And you've got a work where component as well as
that peep, we're just.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Launching a work where component because that's an area that
I saw through the Amotai environment where a lot of
the Maori and Pacific owned businesses were in the building industry.
And so I was a foundation member of Amotai in
its original form I think it was called Econore, I
(11:43):
think it was, yeah, And when I looked at the
the businesses in that in that you know rosta, I thought,
you know, there's a lot of builders, and so you know,
I looked around for a good supplier and this Irish
company that have been in business for over one hundred years,
(12:03):
they had just come into the Australian market and they
were about to open a distribution center here in Auckland.
So I went out and I had a meeting with
them and looked at their age and looked at their history,
and I thought, wow, you know, you couldn't get a
bit of partner to bring into the market. Somebody that's
you know, they have their own manufacturing around the world.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You know, they're very.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Ecologically you know focused, and so it was, Yeah, it
was a match made in heaven as far as I
was concerned.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But it's early days. I mean, it's the work where
it is just about to kick off.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So you've been around the traps, You've had quite a
journey to this point in time. What's the legacy piece
for you then? What are you trying to create?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The motivation for me has always been, you know, around
my culture and where I come from.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's just been a strong part of who I am.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
And so really my reconnecting with with New Zealand, you know,
about twelve years ago through the Malorti Golf Association has
given me an opportunity to to get some ideas and
meet some people, network back into the community. So I'm
really keen to sort of initiate some community projects where
(13:27):
we can bring back some ideas. Like for example, an
idea that I've been talking with a few people is
fundraising for Maris and creating a range of branded merchandise,
using young designers to design from from from those ewis
and and reconnecting with the with their their people in
(13:51):
the city. So so promoting the idea of raising some
funds for them Mari through merchandise, through the people and
through the EWI in the city. That because this is
the issue. You know, most of the country Marise, all the.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
People have moved into.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
The cities and so you know, I'm I'm I think
there's an opportunity there, but I'm interested in community projects.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That's great. Well, if you had a key message for
my audience, for my listeners out there, what would it be,
would you like to leave them with?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
For then, I you know, I mean another concept that
I'd like to sort of maybe get involved with down
the track is creating an entrepreneur or cause for Mali
in Pacific Islanders, and you know, I think I think
we're natural entrepreneurs, and I think there's there's an opportunity
there to to do something in the future. I've always
(14:45):
thought and said to my kids, you know, dream big
and aim high, and just get out there and be
enthusiastic for life, and you know, and and just embrace it.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, thanks so much Tony for coming on my program today.
Are really siate it.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
So there you have it. I hope you enjoyed this
episode of Meet the mob ol T make sure you
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next episode.
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