Free Britney with Joel Creasey

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In twenty twenty one, Britney Spears, at the time thirty
nine years old, had spent the last thirteen years living
under a conservative ship. Is that too many numbers so far?
I'm doing girl math right now. It's that's like the
cool thing at the moment, girl girl math whatever. No
one really does. This is degrading to women. I don't know.
People love saying it though I've got my account. A

(00:21):
woman's fantastic. We should start saying boy math. Yeah, it's okay,
we're doing goy math. Doing boy math. In court, she
spoke out publicly for over twenty minutes about her harrowing
experience under the thumb of her father Jamie Spears and
lawyer Andrew Wallat. No, that is not a joke. Oh
my gosh. Is that that's called nominative determinism.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, when your name is your job, like if you're
Craig Baker and you're a Baker, great, great, Yeah, I
love that. Since the establishment of Spears's conservativeship, she had
released four albums, headlined a global tour that grossed one
hundred and thirty one million dollars and performed for four
years in her Las Vegas residency, yet her conservatives deemed

(01:04):
her unfit to take care of herself. They had control
of a spending communications and personal decisions. This is a
story of the Free Britney movement. It's Britney bitch, It's
Britney bitch. And we can reference George is not here

(01:39):
of course, Yeah yeah, yeah, let's not pretend that she's here.
She didn't speak because I do such great impression, great gread,
this would be great. This is so good. Hey, everybody,
welcome to not Another Crime podcast. I'm Sammy Peterson and
I am not a journalist. I'll just say that right
up front. I'm not a goddamn journal A very quick

(02:01):
message from me aka semip letting you know that she
was sick this week when we recorded, and instead I
was joined by the Great Joel Creasy and decided to
actually have a less grisly murder story this week and

(02:21):
give you all a very well deserved break. But still
in the realm of crime. I am talking about the
Free Britney Movement, the great Britney Spears Icon Britney Spears,
and in the same vein, I want to let you
know that Joel and I get very excited around each other,
continue to talk, have a great time, and I will

(02:44):
break up this episode by bringing in some facts about Britney,
so at some point it will just be me just talking,
just delivering the facts. And then Joel and I discussed
more about Britney and some of the things that kind
of happened around that time. I hope you enjoy this episode.
Gee will be back this coming Thursday in a Thursday

(03:06):
Treat episode which is a murder story this week, so
you get this episode is just an overview of the
Britney Spears conservativeship and we'll be back with the mail
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(03:29):
of course writing into Sammy at just Another Company dot
com dot au or leaving us a voicemail. All of
the links are in the show notes below. It's Brittany Bitch. Okay,
let's start Mickey Mouse Club. Were you Team Brittany or
Team Christina? Always team Brittany. Who are you team Christina? Yeah? Yeah,

(03:50):
yeah yeah. I love Christina Aguilera. I went and saw
her in Perth at the Burswood Dome which was the
old theater in Perth Theater Stadium and it was held
up by like a like a like a helium sort
of dome. And when you exited because of the I
guess the air pressure, you get like blown out. Yeah,
you have security catch you on the other side of

(04:10):
the door. God. Yeah. That's also where they had the
Hopman Cup, which was the Perth tennis tournament, where I
was a bull boy. Were you actually yes, I was
a ball a boy for the concert. Throw a ball
at because you know when you see the ball kids,
ball boys, boy kids, ball kids, the top ball kid
one at the net. Yes, that's experienced. You get to

(04:32):
stay at the net the whole time, just in case
you're gonna run across. Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, and often
you mon't get hit by a ball. The most exciting bit.
Yeah I was not. I never got net, but I
was up the back and Serena hit me with the
ball once and that bruise, like, I wish it stayed
for life. Yeah she could designed it.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh go your tattoo. I love that, but tattoo the
band other things she's said, I don't think she's sad
and are they fake lesbians or not. Remember that its controversy.
Oh also, yeah, I'll get back to it. Tattoo when
I was commentating Eurovision with Beautiful before hers, Yeah, Tattoo,
the band the Foe whatever they were commentate Eurovision for Russia.

(05:14):
Do they really They are in the commentary booth next
to Oh my God because they're legends. Yeah. With that
one song, Capital T little a Capital T listener, it's
so confusing to spell. I can never get it right.
I know, at least at Nova, you know, we keep
it really familiar. I don't think, just know. That's our
current catch phrase. Now I should say Georgie Love is
not here today, but she said I want someone who

(05:37):
is like me, another gay man. So crazy. That's exactly
what she said because she's not here. And you know,
it's weird giving compliments to people's face and something you
and I do, like you get you get so uncomfortable
when someone starts complimenting you. She is so great, she's
so great, she's so great, she's so funny. I just
think she's such a talent. She has such a beautiful

(05:58):
speaking voice. Yeah, yeah, you really should be anchoring like
a primetime news show. And she's so beautiful, so beautiful.
I forget every I've known a for years, hung out
so many times, every single time, I'm like, oh that's right,
you're stunning. Yeah yeah, well you forget because there's so
many other qualities to her, like she's so fucking funny
all the time, and she's really britiitue. Yes. Yeah, there's

(06:21):
a beautiful photo of her as a child to your
people left that she thought I wouldn't hang up, and
I was like, oh, I'm going to hang that out.
That is so funny. She's also the gayest man Ever's
the gayest man? Like, where is she right now? New York? Yeah,
she's pretating to be sick so she can go to
New York for five hours, I know, seeing Hamilton show time.
So what was I saying? So you were talking about

(06:42):
the concert? Yeah, and Bulkid and then I'll get back
to the concert. Oh my gosh, this is okay. So
bull Kid, I was put on drinks duty, so that's
kind of like your lower ranking bull Kid, and I
was fabulous on drinks. It's getting like the powerade. Yeah,
I'm going like, Kim Cloisters, what would you like? Like,
you know, like, what can I make you. And also

(07:02):
I was such a huge Kim Clysis fan growing up
because I used to play competitive tennis. Loved Belgian number
one Kim Cleisters so much. I had my tennis racket,
I had the grip the same color as her, the
same brand babbalat the same shock absorber. And we were
waiting to walk out because one because I'm hotting cup
is country versus country. Okay, sure I got to walk

(07:24):
the Belgian flag out for Kim Cleisters. Wow. And this
is when she was dating Lane and Hewett and twelve
year old Joel in a legionnaire's cap because we were
sponsored by like Sun Smart even though it was an
indoor event. Terrible name for a cap, by the way,
like it's also a disease which the legion and that's
the cap is so ugly. I probably hardly get the disease.
I said to Kim Clisters, you're too good for Layton.

(07:48):
They broke They broke up a month later. Yes, I
said that almost did no as like will as the
Belgian national anthem was playing. Whether she heard me or not,
I don't know, but they brought it al. That's so funny.
So you broke those two up. Oh my god, Now
the concert that you went to, what did you think
when you saw this Christina Aguilra. So this is when
everyone was like, oh, she's pregnant and she was pretending

(08:08):
not to be. On the screens were these like amazing
images of her, like walking backstage, and we meant to
imagine it was at the Birdswood Dome, and I guess
because they used the same the same vision everywhere and
she's in this like amazing This was during the you know,
the candy Man sort of sixties zero. Yeah, this amazing
tight white suit with a little like white fedora. And
then and it's like as if she's about to come

(08:28):
out onto stage, but she comes out in a completely different,
altered sort of suit, all everything taken out, and I'm like, oh,
she's pregnant. And that was the last show. She canceled
the rest of the Australian tour. Oh wow, because she
had a fight with Carl gais the only reason. What
a reference? Just reference? Well, you're talking about the Nckey

(08:51):
Mouse Club and it you like the most. But she
was so good life. She is one of the great vocalists.
But then I went and saw her last year at
Flemington Racecourse. She had a racecods. I think she was
number seventeen. And no, she did a like a festival
and the weather was so bad. It wasn't the one
with tea pain or something. Was that there was a

(09:11):
boy of course and was better. Wow, admittedly the weather
was not on Christina side. Yeah, sure, it was so good. Yeah,
she'd be great live, she'd be so much fun. So
that have you seen Britney? Yes, so I saw Brittany
in the burrs Were Dome, the same place. It's it's
now off to stadium and no, so she comes out

(09:33):
she's doing the Circus tour. This is when stuff's really
starting to go down with Brittany and people are starting
to go is everything okay? They're as talking about the
lip syncing at this time. Weren't they a lot of
lip sync? Yeah? And this is before Perez Hilton was canceled.
So Perez is like kind of doing this big intro
about Perez Hill. Yeah, never forget, you know, the penises
on the face. And and it's a concert where the

(09:54):
stage is in the middle. So Brittany arrives, everyone cheers
and then Brittany goes in Perth and she goes, Hello Brisbane.
For any other artist, the crowd would turn on you,
but the Perth crowd were like, yes, we've got we've
got crazy Britney. We don't care that you don't know

(10:15):
where you are. It's better for us if you don't. Yes,
But now all the Britney videos go dancing with the nice.
There is so much going on. And also, like people
became obsessed with the Instagram and I want to kind
of long caption the long captions. I want to get
you back on at some point to talk about don't
fuck with cats where people actually did the did like

(10:36):
internet sleuths did something good for one. Yeah, Body Movin
and John Green, the two like that were they were
their Internet aliases. Yeah, yeah, biggest nerds ever tracked down
a serial killer obsessed wild But Britney I'm right across
because we talk about her a lot of Yeah, yeah,
have you seen the footage of her recently doing the
dance you know with the weird sort of yeah, what

(10:58):
do they call those tops? They're like, was the bally
dance one that she did?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
She always saw its a little of dancing, you know,
on the house. Improly it's jazz dance. Yeah, she loves
the little belly dancing. You know, she's like ten years
They add a and who I once met and she
said to me, I'm really good friends with the comedian
And I said her and she said, Joe Christy get out.
This was like ten years ago. Look do you know
why she would have said that. I used to write

(11:25):
jokes for ten years? Did you really had some sort
of online series? And I was writing some jokes for
her and she's for everyone is from Who Dares Win?
Who Dares Win? Which is so funny because an episode
that's coming out this week, we talk about Mike Whitney
for a very long time and ten years Lada comes up, so, oh, Michael, yeah,
because if Mike Whitney, So if the person they asked
to do the dare wouldn't do the dare, then Mike

(11:46):
would do it. And then remember sometimes ten years iad
it would do the dare and I was like little
gay was like and also looking back, the dares were
so light, so lame. I remember one where it was
like always in a shopping center and it was like, oh,
we're jumping.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
This was one where there was like would you get
naked in a sleeping on that show. And then and
then Mike always went and got the clothes that was
his bit and walked up, Hey, Mike, good stuff, still
good stuff. Well, I remember doing a gig with Fiona
Lachlan and had the comics lounge and ten year's Ada
came along because this is around the time to see
Joe Christie, her favorite Joe Christie. He's great, sounds like

(12:23):
great Christie, like a US politician. And she came up
to Fiona and I and sort of like, kind of
she's really lovely and very in person. Tanya's very enigmatic
and you kind of like draws you in. And she
came up to Fionna and I and she goes, I

(12:43):
love humor, she told, she told, she told me that
she loves jokes. Yeah, I love jokes. And the second
she left the room, Fiona and I were like, well,
I love air, I love water, Yeah, I love breathing,
I love sleeping, I love him, I love humor. I
don't do it myself, but I love to watch. But
she would thought it was a real insightful yeah comment,

(13:06):
And I don't want ten years out of any other way.
That's exactly the person you imagine for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
What you don't realize is that Britney's making you all
this money and all you do is write a bunch
of crap about her. She hasn't performed on stage in years.
Her song ist God Give Me More for a reason
because all you people one is more and more and
more and more and more alone.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
And the Free Britney movement was such a thing where
it was like Chris Crocker was the first person to
come out and say leave Britain, that's right, which was
like two thousand and seven. Yeah, and that was like
kind of early days of YouTube, I want to say, Yeah,
it was, yeah, and Chris Crocker became a huge star
around that time. Yeah, he surely drew like an I'm
a celebrity appearance, But it was It was such an

(13:53):
interesting time because people went, there's something going on with Britney,
but no one really knew exactly what to And because
when was the kiss with Madonna on stage? Oh god,
that would have been early two thousands, I think, because
wouldn't Christina have been pissed because sheer this Madonna too,
but they cut away really yeah, but that Madonna kissed
Christina first and then Brittany. So Brittany got Christina Christina

(14:16):
sloppy second, but they do a cut away to the audience.
Oh my god, this was double a dirty day. So
when Christine had like the really raggedy black hair, but yeah,
I remember that leave Britney alone. It was iconic. And
also so many people have told me that I look
like him, really Chris Crocker, I'm like, cool, thanks, what

(14:36):
the guy the guy on YouTube over a person he
doesn't even know and say, remember the line, if you
want to go to Brittany, You're gonna have to go
through me. Hilarious, And I think even Brittany was like, hilario,
take that. I don't want to know. Yeah, that would
be hard. That's like a feather.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash
someone who's going through our time?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Bretty alone?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Please leave Britney Spruce alone right now a minute. Anyone
who has a problem with her, you deal with me
because she's not well right now.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh my god. Conservativeships, there aren't that many like public
conservative ships. It's so conservativeship for people that don't know
is kind of you're under some sort of like illegal
guardian when you can't take care of yourself. A lot
of the time. It's for people with Alzheimer's. Yeah, you
can't take over them to take care of their own
finances and everything. Wendy Williams is apparently under one. Oh

(15:40):
my god, Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams. Yeah, waiting for the
people that you would know. Okay, I'll come back and
do don't fuck your cats and they I'll come back
and do. Wendy Williams. What about when she wasssed this
is the statue of Liberty and fa Yeah. Yeah. And
Amanda Bindes is the other one that's under Conservative ship
at the same time. Amanda Bynes is a bit like
Lindsay Lynghan could have had an oscar in it. Absolutely

(16:03):
still could. I think Lindsay still could. Yeah, after Freaky
Friday too, it's a sorry get a freaky freaky freaky,
but the first one was really fun, so much fun. Yeah,
So basically a conservative ship for people that don't know.
Is it like being a child again and your adults
are in the parents. Yeah. Yeah, it's like kind of

(16:24):
like just having I guess power of attorney is when
someone can actually say you're going to take care of
this stuff for me. I I can't do it anymore.
They don't have but they actually vocalize that or write
it down. Okay. And a conservativeship is when someone else
takes over, including finance, including finance, so you're not even
allowed to like buy a coffee. Well no, so you

(16:45):
have an allowance in a conservative ship. So which is
the stuff that we're going to get into is that
Jamie her dad started to take control of her finances
and everything wage and it got really horrible really quickly.
Like it's a yeah. Look, I was saying to someone
the other day, like I think I might need a Carara.
That's a bit different to being like so nice. I

(17:07):
had a PA for seven years. Yeah, I've gone a
year without one. Did you call did she call them
your cara? Essentially? Yeah, came fed you. Yeah, to give
a walk being a dog kid, I know. I mean
I was late today. I'm late everywhere, but on gates
or drag time. You told me that, you said gates
always run late. Yeah, we call it drag time. A
drag show will never go up on time. Say the

(17:29):
drag show is at ten pm. Yeah, those girls are going
on a twenty five because they're backstage learning the curry
like fifteen minutes. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, so Joel, today,
I'm going to tell you a little bit about Britney
spears and you you know a lot of this stuff anyway,
so I don't yeah, yeah, need to be more informed.
You're going to learn all of this stuff about Britney
and then you're going to be a Britney expert. Maybe
it'll be Pritzburg, maybe it'll be a convert Kin. Well,

(17:52):
I can, I can. I can change you from loving
Christina and seeing Christina every time. I don't think you no,
I don't think you about to change it because Brittany,
this is what I always have a debate about. I
don't think she's a gay icon. Right. There's a lot
of like, like how we choose gay icons is very weird.
I wouldn't say Christine is a gay icon, nor would

(18:14):
Colleen gay. So how are they picked? Like happen? It
just happens anyone with the surname and Brendan Madonna, yes, okay,
Gaga probably, yeah, Chris Jenna, it's Piggy, Yes, huge gay

(18:38):
icon one of the originals share icon. But that's so obvious. Yeah, yeah,
but Brittany maybe not, maybe not Julie Hillard Weirdly maybe
a gay icon, even though she didn't pass gay marriage.
It's just we have a weird set of rystols and
then it either comes across Magda or my desk and
we stamp it and then you've got your gay. It

(18:59):
just says gay. Yeah, she gave a gay icon. So
on July fourteenth, twenty twenty one, Britney Spears gave her
court testimony. I have been in shock. I am traumatized.
You know, fake till you make it. But now I'm
telling you the truth. Okay. I'm not happy. I can't sleep.

(19:20):
I'm so angry it's insane, and I'm depressed. I cry
every day. So maybe you can understand the depth and
the degree and the damage that they did to me
back then. I want changes and I want changes going forward.
I deserve changes. So that was her court testimony to
get Jamie Spears her father away. So when she says

(19:42):
they did to me, she's talking about gay parents. Yeah,
so Lynn and and Jamie are two parents that she's
talking about. Because the sister as well, Yeah, who was
in the film Crossroads. I believe do you know I
don't think I've ever seen it because she's not a
gay icon. That's I know, very I mean the thing though,
there would be people that go, know she is a
gay icon. There's debate, there's debate. Would you have a

(20:05):
debate about it? Do you think that you would? Who
would be the first? I do the great debate Forum
Comedy Festival. I'll run past them and is Brittany a
gay icon?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
On?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's so fun? Yeah, can't wait to see Tom Gleason
debating that one. A few days later, Brittany took to
instagram dot com to thank her fans for their ongoing support.
The hashtag she wrote was free Britney. I remember online
slits would tell Britney that if she needed help, she
should wear a yellow shirt. Remember this in one of

(20:35):
her videos, And the next day Britney wore a yellow shirt.
Was this conspiracy theory or was it actually happening in
front of everyone's eyes? So that was a big thing.
Everyone went she shaved her head at one point, So
I was going to say, over in cancer, when did
the shaving the head? Two thousand and seven? And was
that when she was hitting the bonet of the yep?

(20:56):
Because there was a paparazzo that she was not a
fan of it. Oh, tell me about it. I would
have done the same. You are with an umbrella most
of the time. You hit there with onever do you know?
I when I get papped, it's always when they're waiting
for someone else at the airport. So like I'll be
walking through the airport, the pap will see me and
he'll go, okay, pick up his camera and go click

(21:18):
and put it back down because he's waiting for like
Sam Frost or something. Right, do you continually walk back
from forth like at that time You're like, I'm like, well,
don't bother? Yeah, don't yeah. Yeah. Once when I got
properly papped, like they were waiting for me, I was
going for lunch in Sant Kilda with Chrisy's one and
perhaps are waiting and my mom stopped and posed like
she was on like a red carpet you meant to

(21:38):
walk past? Could I have that when on the way out?
Could you air drop that to So the question is, Joel,
how did Britney get here? How did a global icon
slip through the cracks? The pressure on her was insane.
There were so many expectations on one of the most
famous people in the world. Britney seemed really lonely. She

(21:59):
didn't seem to have anyone she could really trust. So
today on the podcast, we're not talking about Grizly murders
for once, I having a little break. Joel's here instead
of Georgia, and we're talking about the Free Britney movement
and how the pop princess lost all of her freedom.
So it started with Mickey mouse Club. Everything always starts
with Mickey mouse Club. But I can't name anyone else

(22:19):
apart from Brittany and Christina that came from there, but
I know it was Selena, go Timberlake? What was what
was your the JT? This is going to ru JT. Yeah,
it's going to run the tour? What tour I've kind
of been obsessed with for a long time. The justin
Timberlake dancing Now I know, which is so like I
w sexy back to what once again? In that same

(22:41):
birds would Die and we had blown out the door
and I was on Rove Live and remember he was
on Rove Live back in the day, and he was
talking about Rove Live asked him the question something like
not who would you turn gay? For, but he probably
did ask him that he used always ask that was
his question. And remember when former Prome Minister Kevin Rudd
was on and he said who would you turn gay for?
And he says my wife to raise? Oh, that's right,

(23:03):
And I'm like, isn't it to rese But he always
says to raise, always to raise? Isn't she like minted
hinted she had a billionaire? I think yeah. But yeah,
so JT was on there and and he it wasn't
Pink every birthday, but I must have had the rigging,
you know, to come down in the silks. I'm like,
can Pink sing a song on the ground? I don't
know she can. If she can, she has to be

(23:24):
in flight. Her vocals don't work normal furious she didn't
get alphbetm wicked. But but yeah, so I was like, yeah,
I remember him being on there and going, you know,
you're making sexy music. Like, how do you feel about,
you know, people making love listening to your music? That
was the big question at the time. And I think
Justin because because I call him Justin because of JT's

(23:45):
music back because of his music back then, people did
kind of go, he's really cool. He's really But then
all this stuff started to come out about Brittany and
how he treated Brittany. Oh Brittany has destroyed Yeah yeah,
which was fascinating to watch. So we talked about Chris
Crocker before. Who's now Kara Cunningham who posted the leave

(24:09):
Britney Alone video back in the day in two thousand
and seven. Real pioneer people have always been passionate about
Britney spears like Chris Crocker, really passionate. When Brittany started
posting memes and doing fashion shows in her house or
dancing by herself, dancing with knights, the Internet was very
quick to make fun of her, kind of like an

(24:29):
Amy winehouse. Yeah, you know, and I mean I wish
I had her house, but yeah it's hideous. Yeah, I
mean those tiles. And then the other day there was
like he's a DoD shit. If you haven't already seen this,
I would urge everyone listening to look up doctor Phil's house.
Have you ever seen Doctor Phil's house? No, it is

(24:51):
the worst house you've had sex. It's so gross. You
have to all show you after this. Really, yeah, I'll
put them in the Instagram post the Doctor Phil House
because it is exactly kind of what you think someone
who likes hunting would have as a house. Really. Yeah,
remember doctor Phil used to make his poor wife come

(25:11):
out and watch everything. He I've always wanted to end
all of my stand up shows with grabbing someone's hand
and walking off. That's how you would you come to
every show. I will come to every show just for
that gag. I'm committed to a gag. It's so funny.
But yeah, he used to grab his wife's hand and
they used to walk off together. And every opisode doesn't
know what time of day my radio shows on. I
think he thinks I do breakfast radio. I was once

(25:34):
in New Zealands for two days and he said, where
are you? I said, I'm in Auckland, not even in
the country, not even in the country. Yeah, that's what
he goes. I'm listening. It's cool Brittany dancing and everything.
So the knives you mentioned as well, we could beg
It was the thing about Brittany is she was kind
of not I mean, she was never really known for
her vocals, and this is what she had over Christina,

(25:55):
because obviously Christina is one of the great vocalists of
all time, Brittany was really, for me, a great dancer,
choreographing a lot of video clips like minutes before and
then expecting the dancers to keep up with her. Yeah,
that's why a lot of people are saying, Taate McCray
is like giving Britain right. She's going back to that
full on you know, stage Corey as opposed to Adele,

(26:17):
who I love just belting out of Gune. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
just sitting down, just belting out of June. Adele just
side know yeah, you know how you know how singers
like I've never been one of those people that like
a singer speaks to me. Sure every single song Adele
has written is about me, of course it is. Yeah,
every song I love her so much. Yeah, I love

(26:39):
her is just like your Layton Latin and beck Hewitt
thing you love Kim classes of Lady Gaga. I love Adele.
And then when I went to the Adele concert, you
know she's she's quite funny. Yes, So she was doing
this bit and she goes, oh, this is my one
song that's you know, you can get up and dance
because otherwise everything else is a bit sad, sad, so
go on, get up and have a and there I

(27:00):
am in the mosh pit with Julie Morrison. Same he's saying,
and Wali Darli. Long story. So there we are dancing
and everyone gets up for a dance, and then she
points at me. I've got paroxide hair at the time,
and she goes, you look like a dance, like a
professional dancer. I'm like, no, I'm just really gay. I'm
not a professionals really gay. But I shrieked and screened.

(27:23):
That's so good. Of course, did you get up? And
did you get up with her? In Dents fourced your
way up? I wish I had the VIP, but I
wanted to go to the Vegas Residency, but I'm too nervous.
You canceled. Oh yeah, yeah, well, and Brittany also did it.
So you said Brittany did four years four years in Vegas. No,
she didn't complete for four years. People knew that there

(27:45):
was some kind of conservativeship about her at this time,
but for most of us, we didn't really understand what
that was. So I kind of explained it as a guardianship.
That's what a conservative sort of brought the word conservativeship
into the Otherwise, I don't think people were really close.
I'm still not super across it. No, it's really weird
because you can have different types as financial, which is
obviously they'd have control of the finances. It's physical, which

(28:07):
is health and well being. There's general conservative ships which
are more common. These cover kind of everything. So yeah,
just kind of look after a person and there's limited ones.
Now she was put under a temporary conservative ship, right,
so it wasn't like a full conservative ship because mostly
it's like someone who has Alzheimer's. But she had a
public melt and she was only twenty six at the time,

(28:28):
and so she was, you know, in current speak, Kim Kardashian,
she was. She was huge, was the name. Yeah, more
than anyone else exactly. And now you know, you see
like all these old photos of Britney as well, and
you kind of go, oh, she was with Lindsay Lohan
and Paris Hilton. They were the three of them in
the car. It's funny. And so this conservative ship usually

(28:49):
there's an evaluation of the person, but Brittany never got
that chance was about to ask, so her dad just
went yep and fast tractor. She never well, she just
said that there was no way that she could look
after herself, and she wasn't of mental capacity to choose
a lawyer, and I choose someone to assess her. Oh

(29:09):
yeah yeah. But at this stage, I'm asking you a
question you probably or possibly don't know the answer to.
With a relationship was her relationship with her father? Good? No,
no, no no, And she asked for when the only kind
of thing that she kept saying during all of this
was please don't let it be my dad. So she

(29:29):
kept saying that, going, please don't let it be Jamie
because he is just awful. How did well? There was
so public speculation about her at the time, like you know,
so this was when she shaved her head in two
thousand and seven. Then she was attached to hair transplant
in Turkey, and also like you know, she's the umbrella

(29:50):
incident happening that was so iconic. And then there was
like an incident where Kevin Federline, who was her partner
at the time, kept taking back the kids and said
she wasn't fit to take to look after the Fadoline
who's one of her backup downs, that's right, And then
she dated paparazzi. Yes, we're going to get into as well.
When we get into that. Let me tell you, I'm

(30:12):
gonna drop a little bombshell on you. I have stood
next to Britney Spears for a minute waiting for a taxi.
When did this happen. It happened in twenty seventeen when
she was dating the paparai, the paparazziparazzo paparazzo. I was
in La Yeah, I was at the Beverly Hills Hotel

(30:32):
waiting for a taxi. Yeah. I said to my friend,
that's it's Prittey bitch, pretty bitch. And I think this
was pre bitch. She's not a gay icon. She not,
so I don't give it too much. I'll tell you
lots of people like although my friend Ashley was game,
might think she's going on this is the whole issue
with gay icons. And then Ashley didn't really see her.

(30:54):
Then we both got in taxis at the same time
and went down the sort of driveway of the hotel
and pulled up the lights, looked over and she was like,
oh my god, that's Brittany and she was with it.
Was it ad Nan ad Nan? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
paparazzi leave, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that
was that's my that's amazing because she was and I
think the thing about Brittany was she was really lonely.

(31:16):
She was such a very what's the word, very accessible
because she obviously needed help. She was vulnerable. Yes, and
people followed her everywhere all the time, like paparazzi, pepparazzi. Yeah,
and they followed her everywhere pepparazzi. Yes. And the problem is,
and we've seen this happen in your life, fame is

(31:39):
so cruel in that some people love to be around
fame so much that they will indulge you and give
you whatever you want and actually only poison you further. Yeah,
just so they can have that tiny, tiny, you know,
slice of fame, but it's only going to be temporary

(31:59):
because you're making that person sicker exactly. And I think
that was the thing about you know, when we look
at someone like Amy wine House, so you look at
like Wendy Williams, which would talk about at some point
she so they were kind of like, oh, she's an alcoholic,
she can't look after herself and everything, Wendy Williams. But
then it was also like she then made a film,
a documentary about herself, like with an executive producer and everything,

(32:21):
and you're like, but what mental state can you be
in where someone takes away all of your riots? And
it's just a debate that I don't really understand. I mean,
you know, I said before, I need a care. I
don't understand a lot of things. I love a care.
I think we need you and I need the same things.
It's digs. It's going to be like a nanny. Nanny
would be a great yeah, fran frand phone, Oh I

(32:41):
get Poppins. Poppins. Poppin's over dresser. Yeah, you can have Dresser.
I have Poppins perfect. Most of the time, when someone
ends up in a conservative ship, it's because they can't
look after themselves and need help. During the thirteen years,
Brittany had a success thirteen years. Thirteen years, she had
a successful Vegas run, four successful albums, two of which

(33:01):
went platinum, and a full career that made over one
hundred and thirty million dollars in that time. And do
we know what she saw of that? Not much, Because
the really interesting thing about you can't read about the foyer.
So the really interesting thing about this is that her
dad talk so Jamie took something like it's like two

(33:24):
million dollars a year, and then he also had a
spending allowance of eight thousand dollars per month and Brittany
had like six thousand, so she had less than him.
She also paid for all of the lawyers and legal
force she did of her conservatorship when her dad chose
the legal counsel who represented her. Around that time, I remember,

(33:54):
I remember the comeback album. It might have been It's
Britney Bitch, and that was a big deal. And she
was doing like the VMAs and stuff like that. It
wasn't like you know, music clips which you know, couldn't
be edited and filmed a million times. She was doing live.
She was doing live yeah, performances. Yeah, And the lip
syncing became a huge thing. I remember at the time

(34:15):
because I think at one point there was a video
of the mic cutting out when she was doing a
lot of all all the music stopped on it was
pretty good. Oh that's right, And someone had the had
the like the raw audio. Yeah, yeah, I think I
had that saved on my phone for a while. It
might have been a ringtime. The great Genevieve Morris. When
I was doing a live podcast a while ago. Jen goes,

(34:38):
why don't you just play one of the old podcasts
because they're always really funny, and I was like, okay,
she goes, just lip syncer, which I think is so funny,
like imagine a stand up lip sincing you've recorded your
best night ever, like it's yet to happen. Hey, not
for you. You always call their material all the time.
Oh my god, Well I did the other night which

(35:00):
you came to, which was lovely the UK. But it's
like the first time that I've recorded it because I'm like,
and yeah, you have to get it right. In those
you were really funny. I wouldn't be here now if
I didn't think you're really funny so much, I would
have like blanked you because you know I hate comedy.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeahh But you don't go and see
a lot of comedy, do you at the moment, because
you've seen so much. I see a lot. I don't

(35:22):
find men funny. Yeah. I have never purchased a ticket
to female comic. All my favorites Joan Kathy Griffin, you
know Joan Rivers who called you a rock stuff fucking rockstar.
I believe I worked with her the night before she
went into the go she changed my life. Yeah, like
that's my school of comedy. Yeah, but I see a

(35:44):
lot of stand up yeah yeah, just through the job.
I'd rather go see a musical. Well that's the thing
as well. Like I always think that about comedians that
don't like to go and watch comedy, because it's like
a lot of the time, like if you're out at
a comedy club, you're watching so much stand up yah,
And so it's like, would you would you go out
and watch your stand up if you were like if
your touring all the time, you would never go out

(36:05):
and just watch her. No. Holiday, I took like I
took Jack to New York. Yeah, and I took him
to the Cellar right, just because I think, yeah, yeah,
just for the wine. There's no comedy. It was very serious,
actually familiar. It was so dull. But I took him
there just because it's you know, like great historic and
I've played there before. But I'm not pooh poohing comedy. No.

(36:29):
I also think there's you run into that trap of
sometimes you start to absorb a bit of material and
you write a bit and you don't realize that you've
actually not stolen it. But you're just seeing a bit
too much. Well, that was all the Robin Williams stuff
back in the day. I remember that Robin Williams was
accused of stealing people's material because he was at the
back of the room all of the time, the absorbing stuff.

(36:51):
The rumor about the Robin Williams light. Yeah, can you
tell this? Yeah, so well I just heard the rumor. Yeah,
if you were on stage and Robin Williams walked into
the room, a lot of the big clubs knew, and
then like a specific light in the rig that a
comic could see because we can normally see like a
light for time and whatnot. Pay attention to those things. Car,

(37:14):
ask Carl, I have a sticky feet. That's so funny.
I have the stickiest defeat and I'm always like I
can't remember any of my material, and then I do,
like twenty minutes in a four minute spot. Yeah, a
light would come on being like Robin's in. Isn't that wild?
Do you know? I worked with Joan Rivers the night
Robin Williams died and she was very upset offstin Yeah yeah, yeah,

(37:34):
on stage a professional and she was, oh, I'm so sad.
I'm so sad. My dearest friend Robin Williams past today,
and you know, of course, of course the first thing
I did, The first thing I did was I I
called his manager and I said, who's got his gigs? Brilliant?
Who's gigs? I have to drink her voices? So were
you working in that club where she went every single

(37:58):
the Lori Beachman Theater. Yeah, it's in the documentary where
she shows off her There's like a stool that she
shows off. It's like the I was with her the
dare I'm a legend and this is where the fuck?
It's such a great theater. I was with her the
day the Oscar nom so best doco came out, and
not only should that have been incredible one And she

(38:18):
would very rarely show emotion, not because she didn't have
any She had heaps, but she was a professional. And
I remember the nums came out and we were all
kind of excited. She looked down for maybe two seconds,
looked up and went, okay, right, where are we up
to now? Because her days would be packed from all morning.
But yeah, the Lori Beachman Theater was iconic, and she

(38:40):
taught me this trick. Every night she would sit backstage
because she'd do like two hours. Yeah yeah, yeah, and
she'd get black cardboard and a white marker and write
her like little dot points like Nicole Kidman and and
she'd write her dot points like that because you can't
see the black cardboard. Oh that's clever. That's such a

(39:00):
great break. Of course she did that. Yeah, there is.
There's an argument for conservativeship, which is really interesting. It's like,
you know a lot about mental health. Like at the time,
she never a lot of money left, her brand had
been damaged, while like not a lot of money, a
lot of money. And I think that's a lot to
do with Kevin as well, because was he managing her.

(39:24):
He was, Yeah, I think there was some sort of
management going on as well. How weird, I'm managing you.
And also I'll be in the chorus line behind you.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so strange. He's just had a
book come out, oh yes, yeah, and so as a
sister as well, a very public divorce, and she was
really struggling with her mental health. After all this time,
she was back on top and had generated a lot
of money. Yeah, and she had kind of I don't know,

(39:48):
she was back on top and didn't have the awful
people that she did kind of surrounding her before. But
she kind of like she wasn't really close to her
dad anymore. She wasn't really close, yeah, to her mum
at that stage. So so at this time, the Instagram
was kind of the way that fans reached out to
her and she kind of connected with her fans. We're
back talking twenty Yeah, this is two thousand and seven.

(40:09):
Oh no, sorry, this is like later. This is like
two thousand and seventeen would kind of be the year
this kind of happened. So the Instagram was the way
that she kind of do a wellness check on Brittany,
and a lot of people felt like they were her friend.
In a week we talk about her Instagram on my
radio show maybe three days a week, really, yeah, because

(40:31):
it's just it's so fascinating, like the fascinating the video
she puts up. There's a lot of dancing and everything
and the nine. But it's definitely her. It's definitely her,
which a lot of people have said, like that there
was a look alike or something or well, no, it's
but it's definitely her, Like operating posting it, yes, yeah,
which is why she started posting clues and everything as well.

(40:51):
There was something that was there was the Yellow Show,
and there was something like like a purple love heart
at some point. Yeah, there was a purple love heart.
And there was also a kind of a me about
shopping or something at the time, and she was like,
I literally cannot go shopping by myself. There was something
like that, I mean, all that would And also that
was in the height of like when she was famous. Yeah,

(41:13):
in you know, like the late nineties into the noughties.
That's when there were kind of no rules around what
about privacy and what paparazzi could have access to. There's
a lot more legislation around that now and probably a
lot more to still to come unless as General's got
something to do with it. And it was kind of
a free for all. You could kind of do anything

(41:34):
to these people.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah. The meme was actually the one I'm thinking of
is let me shop and no one gets hurt, which
she started posting like these soccom memes like I was
just a title soccomum and I loved it for her
and the captain said, story of my life literally, so
what did this mean? Was she being literal or was
she being more cryptic. In two thousand and seven, Brittany
had a very public meltdown, so you kind of know

(41:59):
the image already whip about this when she had the
shed started. She wanted to fight the paparazzi. She had
like the the umbrella it's outside like a service station.
Yeah yeah, and she got really she had the shaved
head and everything. Yeah. So yeah, so she kind of
just started to attack the paparazzi for the first time.
And you kind of have to remember how famous she was,

(42:19):
like she didn't really have many close friends. She kind
of had had enough at this point, and she would
have been like the top, like the top three most
famous people in the world are the huge. She was huge, Yeah,
and Christina you'd have thrown you take that your biggest family. Yeah.
He's like riding like these huge balads like beautiful and
there's Britney singing toxic like so yeah, just having the

(42:41):
best time. When she was a school girl as well,
what was that one one more time? One more time
was baby? One more time was the first one, and
then it was sometimes run sometimes hard, I think I
don't cry and what was the other one the woman,
I'm not a girl all that My favorite was every time.

(43:03):
That's Brittany was a young mother of two under four,
and she was in crisis mode. That January, she was
placed in two urgent psychiatric centers. While she was still hospitalized,
her parents and business manager fast tracked a temporary conservatorship

(43:23):
while she's like, while she's like drugged out of her mind,
and that's growth. They fast tracked it, which Brittany didn't
find out about until it was all too late. She
didn't go to she didn't get to have her say
in fighting it. That October, the temporary conservativeship was made permanent.
Now I'm getting with the emotional and it's just sad.

(43:43):
It's sad, and a judge appointed her father, Jamie Spears,
as co conservator along with her lawyer. That's why isn't
that crazy? Like I mentioned before, her father was put
in charge of her against her will and said that
her business manager Sam was like he couldn't look after
her and he was actually making her worse, like he

(44:06):
was like letting her take drugs and everything. Britney's lawyer
was working more for her father than her. Her father
wanted over four hundred thousand dollars a year as a wage,
and that went up over time. Chicky bugger, You're allowed
to take a salary, but you're not meant to be
using their money for your own personal gain. That's why
conservatives Ship was like, I've heard it all now. In

(44:30):
twenty eighteen, Britney's co conservative lawyer I spoke about Andrew
Wallatt was going to ask the judge for a raise.
He wanted four hundred and twenty six thousand dollars per year.
And I'm sure Brittany's not his only client. Oh god
not so he was like, I think just a lawyer
that worked on that case, but also on media. Oh

(44:52):
my god, wallet's wallet would be wallet's huge. So what
the hell was going on, Joel? Is the question your
not meant to be acting for your own personal gain?
So why were people making so much money out of
Britney spears? If you hadn't been convinced before, you will
now free Britney. It was up to the Internet to

(45:14):
do their best for sleuths to kind of sept Britney free.
Brittany bretnaneyte characters working on what sted online conspiracy became
a widespread phenomenon. In twenty nineteen, Britney stopped her Vegas
residency and put her next album on hold. News broke

(45:37):
that she had voluntarily checked herself into a hospital. Brittany
had been in the hospital for months against her will.
It was later stated I was going to say, yeah, Jamie, voluntarily,
there's no voluntarily in the arm. Brittany herself began to
respond to the Free Britney movement, responding in a way
that to say her family were under a lot of stress,

(45:59):
but she'd be back. So they filmed this in the hospital,
and it's like gross because it's like I think they
made her do it. Of course, yeah, going I'm fine,
I'm fine, kind of like a hostage video where you're going,
I'm fine, I'm fine. What is she going to do?
She's at no lower like you can't get to a
lower point.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, it's also gross and unfair. It's so gross, And
at that point she was kind of like going, you know,
don't read it. Don't don't believe everything you read or
or hear, because I don't. I don't dispute that that
there's she had a lot of issues going on, but
this the way this is handled. Yeah, it's awful. They

(46:40):
go and like spend two years in a small town
in Italy with aways, you know, just with a ton
of staff. Yeah yeah, just relax, lax, relax. I've been
trying to also work on fair di income. I said
it can now fifteen days on the trot on air,

(47:02):
on on radio, just forcing it in, just somewhere the
co haven't noticed. No, great, they're gonna put me up,
saying you're like Karl Stefanovic who wore the same suit
for over a year on TV and no one noticed,
and everyone was like ripping his co host Tom for
being like, you know, for wearing what the same dress
twice or something. He had the same suit, So you're
kind of like that. So fair income, you know, everything

(47:23):
for me on my radio show when I'm not on
Carl Stefanovic of course, my understand. Yeah, that's so funny.
My understudy a beautiful understudy. So, like I said at
the top of the episode, I wanted to jump in
and let you know a few facts about what a
conservative ship actually is.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Saw.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
A conservative ship, in basic terms, is when someone has
a legal right to make decisions on behalf of someone else.
Sometimes this is also referred to as a guardian ship.
These decisions can be personal, economic, and legal decision making
power is ceded to others. I kind of talked about

(48:04):
the kinds of conservator ships that are out there, But
I also want to talk about the background of Britney Spears,
because I'd feel like it would do a disservice to
her story and what happened to her if I didn't
kind of give an overview of Britney Spears. So, Britney
Spears was the world's pop princess and household name around

(48:26):
the world. She began in the industry at the age
of just eight years old after her mum realized she
could sing beautiful moment. My mum never realized that. For me,
she did realize I could tap tap dance nothing else this,
you know, still still waiting for her to let me
know if I have any other talent. They both moved

(48:50):
to New York to try and hit the big time,
some of course talking about Britney and a mum, not
myself and my mother. Brittany was a finalist on a
TV show called Search, an eighties and ninety version of
American Idol. At age eleven, she became the youngest member
of the Mickey Mouse Club with co stars Christina Aguilera

(49:13):
and Justin Timberlake. I've written Jason Timberlake, which I feel
is fun. I don't know why. I'm just not a
Justin Timberlake fan. At the age of just fifteen, she
had a record deal with Jive Records. Just one year
after her first single, Baby One More Time, hit the
world stage and was number one in over twenty countries.

(49:37):
She became a global sensation. It sold over ten million copies,
and Rolling Stone named it the greatest debut single of
all time. I know about you, but I always get
confused about Rolling Stone and the Rolling Stones. I always
want to say Rolling Stones Magazine. I think that's wrong.

(50:01):
Georgia will come at me, and I know that. Brittany
was the best selling teen artist and best selling female
artist of the two thousands decade. She earned the name
the Princess of Pop. In a five year span nineteen
ninety eight to two thousand and three, she made around
seventy three million dollars same She was also the youngest

(50:27):
music artist in history to earn a star on the
Hollywood Walk of Fame. Brittany became one of the ten
most photographed people in history, along with Princess Diana, Marilyn Munroe,
and Michael Jackson. So that a lot of you know,
paparazzi constantly following our good friend Brittany at the time,

(50:52):
and it was just awful, Like I imagine I wasn't there,
but I mean, it would have just been awful for her,
just going places, not feeling close to any one really
at the time, not having many friends, especially in the industry,
and kind of feeling like people were letting her down
time and time again. There were constant conflicts at home
between her parents, Lynn and Jamie Spears. Jamie was an alcoholic,

(51:16):
there were reports of infidelity, and he was both verbally
and physically abusive, Allegedly in two thousand and four, he
entered rehab upon Britney's urging and she paid for it.
In nineteen seventy six, only two weeks after divorcing his
first wife, Jamie married Lynn Bridges. Lynn filed for divorce

(51:45):
just a few years after their few years of marriage
and a temporary restraining order, fearing his temper would be
a problem if he was under the influence, but they
ended up reconciling, reconciling, reconciling, and got together again, having
Britney just shortly after. Brittany was born in nineteen eighty

(52:07):
one in Mississippi, alongside her older brother Brian and little
sister Jamie Lynn. Britney's mum was definitely a driving force
behind her career. She felt guilty about their family's financial situation. Yeah,
I don't know why I said it like that, Ahuvi
s Bear's family filed for bankruptcy in nineteen ninety eight.

(52:30):
They had their car repossessed. That same year, Baby One
More Time was released. Her father, Jamie, had little to
no contact with her during her childhood. She suggested that
she was always afraid of him and cited her parents
divorcing in two thousand and two as the best thing

(52:50):
that happened to their family. Britney urged her to divorce
her father, so Lynn sorry. She she urged Lynn to
divorce her father. There have been reports the only thing
the Record Labels ever heard from Jamie was Britney is
going to be rich, and she's going to buy me

(53:10):
a boat. In early two thousand and four, Brittany married
her childhood friend Jason Alexander in Las Vegas. Now, I
will say at this point that Jason Alexander was a
very different person to the actor Jason Alexander who played
George Costanza in Seinfeld. Fifty Five hours later, the marriage

(53:31):
was annulled as Britney said lacked the understanding of her actions.
Then Brittany married Kevin Federline, who was her backup dancer.
He left his then eight month pregnant fiance. Brittany proposed
to Kevin on a plane at the same time his
fiance gave birth to his second child. I hope that

(53:55):
Brittany proposed to Kevin when they weren't doing drink service,
because I imagine that would be a bad proposal, and
also someone is wanting their diet coke. So Brittany and
Kevin had two children together, Sean Preston in two thousand
and five and Jaden James in two thousand and six.
Brittany filed for divorce after that around two thousand and six.

(54:20):
Her reasoning was that she had been left alone for
three weeks to look after the kids. As Kafed and
I hate it that he's called Kayfed got on a
private jet to party with his friends Kevin had the
reputation of a party boy, and Brittany was now single.
She was constantly hounded by the paparazzi. She could not

(54:43):
walk to her car alone without being snapped. She couldn't
even fill up her car with petrol. She was trying
to pump gas, pulled in the wrong way and tried
to reach the pump around the car. Paparazzi by the
name of Adnan Ghalib offered to help her, and she
accepted the offer. Brittany started asking about ad Nan when

(55:04):
she saw paparazzi. After that, eventually they started dating. He
too started to be hounded by paparazzi. I was but
say paparazzi by paparazzi, are hounded by paparazzi tastes of
his own goddamn medicine. By two thousand and seven, Britney's
ongoing divorce was really taking a toll. The kids were

(55:25):
being used as pawns. A chess term, I'm sure I
need to tell you that a chess term. He seemed upset.
And this is what happens when George's way. I'm starting
to laugh about a chess term. He seemed upset about
how much the paparazzi would be following her with the
kids in the car. Then in two thousand and seven,

(55:46):
Brittany was also strange from her parents after she thought
they would try and swoop in and take everything. There's
an overview of Brittany, but you can see kind of
the trawl. For Britney, she was one of the most
famous people in the world, as Joel has put it,
not a gay icon, but one of the most famous

(56:09):
people in the world. And this was happening to her.
She could not walk to the car, she couldn't do
things like just hang out with people, and I kind
of feel like this made her feel more and more isolated,
and she could only trust the close circle around her,
and people would come in that kind of always had
a different interest in Brittany, which seemed to sadly be monetary.

(56:30):
After this time, Sam Lufty endoed her life. He claimed
to be Britney's former manager, but Britney described him only
as a sometimes friend as a cookie monster. Later said
it's a sometimes food, the goddamn cookies, Sorry, Georgia. They
met at a bah, chatted and became friends. She later

(56:52):
called him and asked him for help with something. It's
very unclear at this point what kind of help she
needed from Sea Lufty, So it's kind of wild to
me that, yeah, she just kind of made a friend
at a bar and needed help, kind of thought he
was genuine from what it seems, and then he became

(57:13):
a big part of her life. Brittany didn't seem to
have many close friends at the time. She was pictured
early on with Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton, but her
friendships didn't seem to stand the test of time. Sam
Lufty encouraged her to spend more time with her family,
but Britney never seemed to want them around. Paparazzi photographs

(57:34):
could sell for a lot of money. The right photo
of Brittany at the time could sell for upwards of
one hundred thousand dollars. A twenty four to seven news
cycle surrounded Britney all the time. A lot of news
would be about her physical appearance and speculating that she
was an unfit mother and kind of just picked apart

(57:57):
her relationships. Paparazzi she would continually follow her everywhere, chasing
her through red lights as she tried to escape. When
she would step out of a car. Paparazzi would literally
be in the gutter and they would take upskirting photos
of her. When news outlets would then mock her quote

(58:18):
unquote sluttiness, they would imply that their own photos were
a reflection of her character and that suddenly she was
a bad role model for being too sexual. In two
thousand and two, a politician stated, really, if I had
an opportunity to shoot Britney Spears, I think I would.

(58:39):
She said this at a domestic violence rally and was
met with applause. She later apologized for that statement, but
I don't feel like you can redact that. I feel
like you are a pos piece of shit forever. On
January first, two thousand and eight, when police were called

(59:00):
to Britney's home, she was kind of refusing at that
point to give the kids back to Kevin. At the
designated court appointed time, she had locked herself inside. She
was taken away in an ambulance for emotional distress and
rumors of substance abuse. The paparazzi chased the ambulance, hanging

(59:22):
on to the back to get a glimpse of her.
A judge then made the decision to remove all custodial rights,
even before receiving any evaluation results. First responders and witnesses
said that she was not endagering her children, but because
of all the negative press surrounding her, it seemed as

(59:43):
though she did not have a choice in looking after
her kids. She was taken back to hospital on the
thirty first of January. On February first, Jamie Spears fast
tracked the Conservative Ship. Californian law specifies that conservatives be

(01:00:11):
personally presented with papers within five days notice before the
Conservative Ship takes effect, but this can be waived if
the judge rules the person could suffer immediate or substantial harm.
The family would name sam Lufty as a destabilizing force
in Britney's life and the reason why the five day

(01:00:32):
notification should be waived. They were claiming that sam Lufty
was in fact crushing up drugs in Britney's drinks. He
denied this and call and of course there was no
evidence to support this, but somehow it was granted. Sam
Lufty asked how he could do this in front of

(01:00:53):
the world, and Britney never called for help. I don't
know it. It kind of seems like they were just
trying to fast track the Conservative ship in any way
that they could. The court document providing Jamie Spears with
full control was already signed and dated for January thirty first,
so before he even applied for the Conservative ship, he

(01:01:15):
had all of the paperwork ready to go and her
address listed as the hospital. While Lynn and Jamie weren't
together as a couple, they acted together in deciding that
this was the best for Brittany. At the time, there
were in fact two Conservative ships, one for the estate
managed which managed her financial affairs, run by her father

(01:01:39):
and Andrew Wallatt, and the other was a personal Conservative
ship that controlled every aspect of her personal life, which
was exclusively managed by her father. He could kind of
control what she could and could not do. Jamie promised
that he would help gain custody of her kids. He

(01:02:02):
would be her temporary conservator, but only a few weeks
after he filed for the Conservativeship to be made permanent,
so only gave her a couple of weeks before he
filed for a permanent conservativeship. A permanent Conservative ship is
meant to be the last resort. Is a legal measure
primarily reserved for elderly people. Who have lost cognitive function

(01:02:26):
and can't manage their finances or their daily activities activities, activitis, activities.
The typical age is between their late seventies think about
seventy six years old to early eighties. A power of
attorney would seem to make more sense in this case,

(01:02:47):
someone who hands their finances over to someone else until
they are ready to take full control. But Jamie requested
a full conservative ship for the rest of Britney's life.
In twenty eighteen, Jamie Spears had a restraining order place
against him from Britney's from Brittany because of her boys.

(01:03:09):
He had physically attacked, breaking down a door to get
to her children. Kevin Federline requested a restraining order because
he was afraid of Jamie's temper. Regardless of this, no
one took the abuse allegations seriously, despite the fact Brittany
wasn't even there when Jamie attacked the kids. Britney had

(01:03:32):
her custody reduced to only ten percent while Kevin had
ninety percent. That equals to one hundred percent. That's boy math.
Britney texted Ardnaan, who hatched a plan to get in
touch with a lawyer while she was at a burger
restaurant with one of her dad's appointed bodyguards. She slipped

(01:03:52):
away and quickly jumped into her car. She met up
with Adnan and they met attorney Adam streisand were chased
by paparazzi on the way. There seventy vehicles, so imagine
that seventy vehicles and helicopters followed Britney spears just to
catch a glimpse of her. Adam streisand agreed to represent Britney,

(01:04:13):
but the judge said that he had a report that
stated that Britney didn't have the capacity to retain her
own counsel. He dismissed it. Adam Streisan was asked to
leave the courtroom. Britney was again denied. There was a
box checked on the original forms that stated that Brittany
had a form of dementia and was not competent to

(01:04:37):
obtain her own counsel. Every single document after thirteen years
reported her presence in the court as not mandatory or able,
but unwilling to attend. According to my research, there was
no medical evaluation that she ever had dementia. The doctor

(01:04:58):
who was said to have checked the box for de
mentia claimed later to have never met Britney Spears. In
two thousand and eight, another lawyer Brittany was hoping to
obtain submitted the following information to the court quote, mister
Spears has now moved into her house and taken control

(01:05:19):
of her financial assets as well as her physical custody
or without the benefit of a hearing where Britney Spears
could be present. I've said it before and I'll say
it again. How god damn insane is this. Brittany was
again denied the use of communication with the outside world,

(01:05:41):
and she was basically confined. Ard Nann openly talked about
he would have to return Brittany anytime they were out
together or Jamie would claim that Britney had been kidnapped.
Jamie at the time had also filed a restraining order
against Sam Lufty after the lawyer was dismissed. So this

(01:06:02):
was a lawyer that she tried to hire before a
court appointed lawyer was Sam Ingham. He was Jamie and
Britney's attorney, but she was covering his annual salary of
five hundred and twenty thousand dollars. In twenty nineteen, Britney's
living expenses were four hundred and thirty eight thousand, her

(01:06:26):
lawyer was earning more than her. Oh my god, her magistrate,
I implore you. Britney tried again and again, secretly meeting
journalists or using bernafhones to try and obtain her own
legal counsel, but these were all turned down. In two

(01:06:47):
thousand and nine, Ardnam was still trying to get Britney
to hire a lawyer. A journalist from Rolling Stone again
just Rolling Stone was also trying to help her. Brittany
met secretly in a hotel bathroom to sign documents to
get herself another lawyer, but sam Ingham said she was

(01:07:09):
fine and it probably wasn't her signature anyway, so threw
it out. This is exhausting. She asked one attorney to
pretend he was a plumber so that he could access
the house and she could have a secret meeting with
her father knowing. I kind of love to see that

(01:07:29):
in a film. That moment incredible. Her family stated that
in thirteen years Britney never petitioned the decision, but court
documents proved otherwise that in fact, she was constantly pleading
to set herself free. It's is wild that it was
taken off her in the first place. Now, a conservati
is usually not able to work. At this time, Brittany

(01:07:53):
was going on a major world to She was embarking
on the biggest worldwide tour of her career, eighteen songs
with brand new choreography, ninety seven shows across three continents.
This tour started less than a year after she was
deemed not fit to choose her own legal counsel, and

(01:08:14):
during the tour generated over one hundred and thirty million dollars.
Between nineteen ninety nine and twenty eighteen, Britney headline ten tours,
earning over five hundred and seventy million dollars, in addition
to a record breaking Las Vegas residency with two hundred
and forty eight shows earning over one hundred million dollars.

(01:08:38):
But she did not see the bulk of that money.
Jamie paid himself sixteen thousand dollars per month as an allowance,
paying her eight thousand dollars per month. In addition, he
would also take a salary of two million dollars, as
well as being a Britney's manager agent, paying tax touring
costs all of that. So sorry, What I meant by

(01:09:01):
that is that you know you'd also account for He
always said he wasn't Britney's manager, but Britney's manager would
earn some on that, the agent, marketing, merchant, all of
that sort of stuff that was a lot of money
was being taken from all different angles. Jamie controlled what
Brittney ate and drank, and made her go on very

(01:09:22):
strict diets. Jamie became more and more religious as time
went on, donating ten percent of his salary to a church.
Jamie tried to cure her with religion and would not
let her read anything that wasn't strictly Christian material. Brittany
was forced to have a uid and her conservative refused

(01:09:45):
to have it removed. There is so much, and the
list goes on and on. I did such a deep dive.
There is so much information in here. It made my
head spin. In twenty nineteen, Brittany dropped out of a
Vegas tour before it started, citing health concerns. There were
lots of people now wondering where Britney was. There was

(01:10:08):
a missing poster for Britney spread around. The movement for
Free Britney grew bigger and bigger. People began publicly stating
that Britney needed to be freed. Media outlets began to
really look into conservatorship, including a documentary Framing Britney. It
was I think it was called Framing Britney Spears, so

(01:10:31):
I haven't written that there, but you know what I'm
talking about. It was time to free Britney. On June thirtieth,
two thousand and one, one week after Brittany made a
public plea to the court, she was denied to have
her father removed as a conservator. The public pressure was
only intensifying. They weren't going to let it go this

(01:10:55):
time around. The pressure was so great at the time
that Senatorizabeth Warren and the ACLA got involved. The ACLA
is the American Clinical and Laboratory Association. On July sixth,
Britney's attorney, Sam Ingham resigned. Funny that Brittany was then

(01:11:16):
able to finally, finally, thirteen years later, hire her own attorney,
a man by the name of Matthew Rosengart, who immediately
filed for the removal of Jamie Spears. Fucking Jamie Spears.
Jamie requested from her estate more than one million dollars

(01:11:38):
in legal fees and related media fees, Matthew flatly refused.
On September seventh, Jamie requested to be removed as a
conservator and that it should be altogether terminated. He could
see the writing on the wall and it wasn't looking
good for Jamie Spears. I was finally dissolved without Brittany

(01:12:02):
having to undergo any evaluation. In fact, she maybe didn't
need to be under a conservativeship the entire time. Her
boyfriend at the time proposed straight away. Brittany later said
that her mother was the one who came up with
the idea in the first place, and she's just as
bad as her dad, but presented herself as a saint.

(01:12:26):
She called like a Bible, a bible carrying saint. I
think is what it was, Brittany said. Linn wrote a
book about Brittany embarking on a media to her. Britney's
sister also released a book, and Britney sent a cease
and assist letter. The family were the driving force in
taking away Britney's rights. Now, I said that was a

(01:12:47):
brief overview. That's a bit of an overview. And now
we're going to go back to my conversation with Joel
to date in twenty twenty one, the world heard for
the first time that a conservativeship was coercive and abusive.
That's when we made she made this speech. Yes, the
conservativeship wasn't just about Britney, it was more on people's

(01:13:08):
rights in general. If this could happen to a huge celebrity,
this could happen to anyone. If Brittany couldn't speak up
and be heard, then who could. TikTokers in twenty twenty
three decided to live stream them calling the police and
sent out a well loved It's so much fun. They
love tiktoks. You know she like this for you go,

(01:13:29):
this could happen to anyone. Yeah, all you hear stories
about you know that you know someone was kept in
her basement for twenty years. I always goh god, could
that be happening within one hundred mean as me? Oh
my god? Yeah, any time, just stuff you don't know about.
And this was a wild thing that Britney kind of went,
this is really disrespectful for you to be doing welfare
checks on me now, after everything I've been through. She said,

(01:13:51):
I love and ad all my fans, but this time
things went a little too far and my privacy was
invaded during this time in my life. I truly hope
the public and my fans, who I truly care so
much about, can respect my privacy moving forward. The fans
can to be a real double edged sword. Yeah absolutely,
and also like doing too much like she's in Christlis

(01:14:12):
mode again they wanted her to be. I think they,
I think the fandom, I think they're called orientators Ariana
Grande's I think getting a bit of that really. Oh,
just the fans are going a little bit too far
with what they're doing. Well, you saw that that person Singapore. Yeah, yeah,
he's a serial pest in Sydney. That was in Singapore

(01:14:33):
and he's from Sydney, Australia. Okay. Yeah, but also if
you remember what Ariana went through in Manchester, not like
not the right person I've met her, ChIL was and delights.
I know, people have a lot to say about Aarona
Grande and Cincury For you're a fan, they're really nice, great.
I love that there are fans that have, of course
still watching the Free Britney movement. They still believe that

(01:14:54):
she's in trouble and still needs help. Other conspiracy theories
now include fans speaking up, saying that maybe her Instagram
is AI generated, but she's been replaced with a body double,
that somehow she's been captured and he's still under a conservatorship.
She did thank her fans directly for helping her. She
needs to continue to heal and find her place again

(01:15:15):
in the world. But he recently deleted her Instagram for
a short period of time, only a short period of time.
I didn't cover that. But October twenty second, she was
seen at a Mexican restaurant unsteady on her feet and
then caught on video driving dangerously. This isn't the video
or the post she put up recently where she was
on a date, went to the bathroom, posted like slagged

(01:15:37):
off the guy she was on a date with. Like
imagine if he was sitting there at dinner and saw
that pop part she's been gone for a while, because
she's taking photos of herself and also writing you know
one of her you know ted talk your captions, and
then he sees that pop up being like, Oh'm a
real shit day, I'm a real shit date. Oh God,
I'm having the worst time tonight. It's like like that's
accidentally sending the wrong text brutal. The manager of the

(01:16:01):
restaurant said that Britney was not intoxicated. In fact, she
didn't order any alcohol with her casida. I love that
he promoted. Why she never margarita? She have a magrada
just alone. I wouldn't know how to eat a casida
without a margarita. No, it's not possible. It's not possible.
Salt and no salt. I like salt. Oh you don't
like salt, not even a spicy salt. I don't like

(01:16:23):
a spicy margarita. I'm a Tommy's Margarita girl. You know what,
that's fun. I work with a lot of people from Sydney.
The restaurant staff tried to stop her from driving, but
she drove away anyway, driving over a double line and
making a really fast U turn. Alcohol limit is a
lot higher in America, Yes it is, so you can
actually drive under the influence, like to a certain point.

(01:16:46):
Can't you more much more, much more than Australia. Yeah.
Britney claimed that she was not out and in fact
it was a Britney lookalike. So this is what she said.
Since not her, the best and kindest thing we can
do for Britney. Now, in the words of the person
once known as Chris Crocker, leave her alone. I agree.

(01:17:06):
What do you think after after hearing that? Do you
like you know there is a lot in there. There's
a lot of facts in there. There's a lot in it. Look,
I first of all, I just Lord knows what is
happening in the Spears world, and I mean the private
Spears world. Yeah, it's evident that you know she's something's

(01:17:27):
not right. And I don't mean that in a sassy,
rude way. She has experienced the heights of fandom that
like few people. Yes, she was, you know Taylor Swift, Beatles,
Michael Jackson, like huge, Yeah, Obama, you know like that,
like that genuine level every single planets Yeah, oh my god,

(01:17:48):
don't even Yeah, everything I can sell a ticket, that
level of fame, that where every single person on planet
Earth knows who you are, where you are these days,
you know, they can try private jets and movements and
and you know, Taylor spoof maybe partly to blame things

(01:18:08):
are easter eggs. Oh my god, I don't have the time.
I love Lady Gaga so much. I have If you
if there's an easter egg in any of her albums.
I've missed every single one. Yeah, because he's just listening
as a true monster. Is it off? Little monster? Yeah,
you just called me a monster like I'm Jeffrey Darma.

(01:18:29):
Jesus please, I'm not a monster. I'm Frankenstein's monster. The
correct terminology. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, you're a little monster.
I always I always call people out when they're like, oh,
you look like Frank he made the monster I did
in Year twelve English. Alak. I just want the best
of Brittany. I don't know what the answer is. Yeah, yeah,

(01:18:51):
because also you would know as a performer, she has
that inch that she wants to scratch. She wants to
get back out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Yeah, I'm assuming she's gone. She's going to want to
keep performing. But I think she needs to get a
nice little villa in Italy, get some great stuff who
don't know who she is, which that's going to be tricky,
but you know, the Italians, I don't. I don't get
engaged there. And I told the waiter and he went

(01:19:20):
cool in Italian loser. I'd love to see a comeback. Yeah, absolutely,
it'd be huge if she if she made a comeback now,
if we did it now, I'd be well, if she
did it right now, I'd be nervous. I want to
know that she's doing a comeback, she's gonna be she's doing,

(01:19:43):
you know, a two hundred date world tour. She's going
to be on fire every single one of those dates.
She's going to be well taken care of. And she's like,
oh my god, I can't believe I'm saying this about
Britney Spears. Just she's happy. She's happy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
And there's been so many clues and everything from internet
sleuths over the time, and it's so good that like

(01:20:04):
the Dancing with Nine video and stuff like, you know,
there's been so many things where it was like she
might have been calling for help that whole time, but
you also don't know because she's kind of gone out
and said, yes, I've been, I've been I've been depressed,
I've been super sad whatever she was saying at that time.
But she's also probably got no one to run this by,

(01:20:25):
no so no one to go. Because sometimes I think
I'm gonna put out like like a little sort of
sassy message that's going to combat something else, and then
I'll run it by a manager or something, and they'll
point out all the flaws and that they go, don't
don't do that. That's what I'm at it. I don't
think she has she's doing. She's a she's a sole
trader at the moment, soul trader, not a road trader. Jesus,

(01:20:47):
save a vowel for someone else. But ah, yeah, it's
it's gonna, it's gonna happen. Free Brittany's gonna come back.
And yeah, because we would like to be hit baby
one more time, more time, and I I wanted to
tell you this story today because we're gonna have a
little bit of a break from the grizzly crimes. The murder.

(01:21:08):
It is a grizzly crime in its own right, but
it is so so sad. And you know what, I
think we need a break. Now. You need to go
to your job right now. You want to work? Yeah,
you're gonna go to work. You working an office, just
a regular office, my s white passes? Do you really?
I have swipe passes and you've got your beautiful it's

(01:21:29):
a lab boob. I mentioned that's a real bag, but
that's real boocie got back. I treat it like ship.
But I believe if you own designer, we're into the ground.
I mentioned once on air that I la boo boos once, yeah,
and then my co host bought me a La Boo
boo for my birthday, so we'll digs try to attack it.
When you did walk in, he thought it was a
fun little thing forlabooboos. But what I love to do
is when I'm flying up you know, the pointy end

(01:21:50):
of the plane, people already give me like a look
up and down, like what's he doing here? Because I
don't dress, you know, I'm not in a suit normally
in like like like gym gear or trackies, and they're like,
what's he doing in here already? So then I love
to walk past them like whack him in the face
of my other boo boo. Great, just to really rubbing in.

(01:22:11):
Thank you, job, thank you, it's Brittany bitch. Hey, everybody,
thank you so much for listening to this week's episode
without g I just thought it'd be a nice way
this week too. We've had some very heavy episodes about murder,
and I thought, let's do a true crime episode that
is all about the Free Britney movement, and that's why

(01:22:34):
I wanted to make it a regular episode because it
is wild that this existed and so many people witnessed
it and saw it all unfolding. Thank you, as always
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