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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Robin and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So the headline in the news this morning, and Alana
from our newsrooms here with us as well, is about
the idea of raising the minimum age for kids to
get on social media. So what's the story of Elina.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, calls have been growing for a little while that
maybe social media age should rise. There's actually a campaign
called let Them Be Kids, and a few premiers and
a few people are backing it. But what's come out
today is our Queensland Health Officer John Gerard has kind
of linked it to studies and shown that we really
(00:42):
need a public health response. There's some data in the
Courier Mouth. He says that the spike has been of
self harm rates has been spiking since two thousand and eight.
And you know that almost bang up lines up with
when kids started getting smartphones and social media apps.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Just I was just reading this is from those stats
that the self harm rates have tripled for children under
the age of fourteen.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Because what they're watching social media, seeing what other people
are looking like and comparing themselves, and they don't have
the brain ca capacity to kind of understand that they're
unique and specially in their own right.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Or even that it's filtered to hell. Be people aren't
even how they look. Yeah, people are putting photos that
look like nothing like themselves. They doctor it all up
and then they look themselves in the mirror and go, oh,
look at me.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Social media life is just so much more glamorous, isn't
it than the rest of the reality.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Actually, it isn't reality.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It is reality.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And so you've had so your boys being sort of
nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Nineteen twenty one or twenty two and twenty four, so.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They would have been social media kids then when they
were teen.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Age and no, when did you say, at one of
two thousand and eight? So yeah, I mean, I guess
my eldest was eight when it came in, So they
have been. It's interesting my eldest son, of all the
kind of gaming and all of that sort of stuff,
he's not interested. It doesn't watch Facebook. I think he
was just that bit before that it wasn't impacting his
day to day life. I've also got really sporty kids,
(02:09):
so screen time wasn't a choice.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
For them, right, So they're not doing dance moves on top.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
They're not doing one They're not I mean, I am
that general that I mean, isn't it ridiculous I talk
about them as a generation. Yeah, But I mean I'm
very curious thirteen one oh sixty five. I know it's early,
maybe you're going into school for swimming training or you're
running late, but I'd love to hear you know, someone
who's right in the thick of this, because part of
me thinks it's wonderful that the government are giving a
(02:35):
platform that parents can then stand on. Yes, to enforce
rules at home.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's a lot easier, I RECKOONI say to kids, well,
I'm sorry, I'd love to let you on, but it's
the law.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But the flip side of that for me is that
the barn door is open and the horse is already
like four hundred meters down the track. Because if and
this is I guess where my head goes, it's like, okay,
So we ban them in schools, and we ban devices
in schools, and we say that we're banning at home,
but then there will be people who will get it,
and so then your kids have access to that before school,
(03:06):
after school, and then because there's an assumption that they're
not doing it, then parents aren't checking it and there's
no checks and balances, So what do you do if
you then find out that something your kid's doing something
and you didn't know.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And even all of them have come out basically you know,
Instagram X, all of them. There's no policing. They all
say that, you know, you've got to be thirteen or over,
but no one's policing it. They're not kicking kids off.
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And also, like the bullying and stuff that goes on,
who is looking at that? Because if you're assuming that
your kids aren't on social media but they secretly are,
because that's a kid's role is to be obstructive, and
you do everything that their parents say not to do.
I just it's dangerous. It just feels a little dangerous
for me. And I did have experience with one of
my kids. I won't name him, but we had an
(03:56):
issue with our girl and he was twelve.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
When my kid was twelve, a girl sent a nude
to him or was she twelve? And then they and
then it was shared amongst a group of people that
she asked them to do. But you know, twelve year olds,
are you joking?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Twelve twelve year old you know how I found out
how the police, right, because I didn't know that there
was you know, I just assume my kids weren't doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Because they're twelve. They're kids, right, So.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I just I kind of I'm a little tarnished by it,
and I think, like with everything, it's got to be
peer driven. But how do you convince under sixteen year
old that they don't want social media?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, because thirty one oh six five is out number Kimberly,
out of green Banks on the phone. How old you're
is it a daughter, Kimberly?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yes, I have a ten year old daughter who's currently.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right, does she have so? Does she have social media?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yet?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
She tried. We've done everything we can to avoid it,
to remove it, block it because she's been suspended. So
eight of her kids at her school have been suspended
for social bullying. Social media bullying because ninety percent of
their schoolwork is now done on an iPad. Kids are
a lot more tech savvy than.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
What they used to be there and not aware right
like they know how to get around our rules.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yep, they just lower their data birth. But my biggest
thing is I've had a lot of mental health impacts
with my daughter so they instead of now just bullying
or writing on a bathroom restore or passing notes, they
now post it all over social media. They make videos
about each other, they post photos of each other, and
unless you're willing to supervise your child twenty four to seven,
(05:48):
there is no way that you'll want to stop them
from being able to do it. And my daughter has
been seeing a mental health professional in that regards.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
She's thin, So is she what she's being bullied?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yes, And then it happened Revers's, well, she did the
same thing because her at ten years old, she didn't
understand that if it happens to her, why can't she
do the same thing?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Of course, so would would it do you think it
would help if there if their laws came in, oh,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I think it could be a lot more beneficial. But
there has to be access for parents and guardians as
well to get the training to know the signs when
something's going on, so know how to deal with social media,
know how to there's different acts you can that switch
it off, that lock it, limit screen time.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But without that knowledge and.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Empowering the parents and the people that have to supervise it.
It's never going to work.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You've got to try, and parents, as parents, we've got
to train, we've got to we've got to get better
at it so that we can protect the kids. I
think it's it's like you want to stay fit so
that you can still run and run around with your kids,
where you actually got to stay internet fit you can
be to protect them.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And I do think that probably managing it rather than
banning it. Then it comes back to understanding it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's Robin and On Brisbane's Kiss ninety seven three
You're listening to the Robin and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So the headline in the news this morning, and Alana
from our newsrooms here with us as well, is about
the idea of raising the minimum age for kids to
get on social media. So what's the story of Elina.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Well, calls have been growing for a little while that
maybe social media age should rise. There's actually a campaign
called let Them Be Kids, and a few premiers and
a few people are backing it. But what's come out
today is our Queensland Health Officer John Gerard has kind
of linked it to studies and shown that we really
(00:42):
need a public health response. There's some data in the
Courier Mouth. He says that the spike has been of
self harm rates has been spiking since two thousand and eight.
And you know that almost bang up lines up with
when kids started getting smartphones and social media apps.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Just I was just reading this is from those stats
that the self harm rates have tripled for children under
the age of fourteen.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Because what they're watching social media, seeing what other people
are looking like and comparing themselves, and they don't have
the brain ca capacity to kind of understand that they're
unique and specially in their own right.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Or even that it's filtered to hell. Be people aren't
even how they look. Yeah, people are putting photos that
look like nothing like themselves. They doctor it all up
and then they look themselves in the mirror and go, oh,
look at me.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Social media life is just so much more glamorous, isn't
it than the rest of the reality.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Actually, it isn't reality.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It is reality.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And so you've had so your boys being sort of
nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Nineteen twenty one or twenty two and twenty four, so.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
They would have been social media kids then when they
were teen.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Age and no, when did you say, at one of
two thousand and eight? So yeah, I mean, I guess
my eldest was eight when it came in, So they
have been. It's interesting my eldest son, of all the
kind of gaming and all of that sort of stuff,
he's not interested. It doesn't watch Facebook. I think he
was just that bit before that it wasn't impacting his
day to day life. I've also got really sporty kids,
(02:09):
so screen time wasn't a choice.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
For them, right, So they're not doing dance moves on top.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
They're not doing one They're not I mean, I am
that general that I mean, isn't it ridiculous I talk
about them as a generation. Yeah, But I mean I'm
very curious thirteen one oh sixty five. I know it's early,
maybe you're going into school for swimming training or you're
running late, but I'd love to hear you know, someone
who's right in the thick of this, because part of
me thinks it's wonderful that the government are giving a
(02:35):
platform that parents can then stand on. Yes, to enforce
rules at home.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's a lot easier, I RECKOONI say to kids, well,
I'm sorry, I'd love to let you on, but it's
the law.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But the flip side of that for me is that
the barn door is open and the horse is already
like four hundred meters down the track. Because if and
this is I guess where my head goes, it's like, okay,
So we ban them in schools, and we ban devices
in schools, and we say that we're banning at home,
but then there will be people who will get it,
and so then your kids have access to that before school,
(03:06):
after school, and then because there's an assumption that they're
not doing it, then parents aren't checking it and there's
no checks and balances, So what do you do if
you then find out that something your kid's doing something
and you didn't know.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And even all of them have come out basically you know,
Instagram X, all of them. There's no policing. They all
say that, you know, you've got to be thirteen or over,
but no one's policing it. They're not kicking kids off.
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And also, like the bullying and stuff that goes on,
who is looking at that? Because if you're assuming that
your kids aren't on social media but they secretly are,
because that's a kid's role is to be obstructive, and
you do everything that their parents say not to do.
I just it's dangerous. It just feels a little dangerous
for me. And I did have experience with one of
my kids. I won't name him, but we had an
(03:56):
issue with our girl and he was twelve.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It was twelve.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
When my kid was twelve, a girl sent a nude
to him or was she twelve? And then they and
then it was shared amongst a group of people that
she asked them to do. But you know, twelve year olds,
are you joking?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Twelve twelve year old you know how I found out
how the police, right, because I didn't know that there
was you know, I just assume my kids weren't doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Because they're twelve. They're kids, right, So.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I just I kind of I'm a little tarnished by it,
and I think, like with everything, it's got to be
peer driven. But how do you convince under sixteen year
old that they don't want social media?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, because thirty one oh six five is out number Kimberly,
out of green Banks on the phone. How old you're
is it a daughter, Kimberly?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yes, I have a ten year old daughter who's currently.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right, does she have so? Does she have social media?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yet?
Speaker 5 (04:59):
She tried. We've done everything we can to avoid it,
to remove it, block it because she's been suspended. So
eight of her kids at her school have been suspended
for social bullying. Social media bullying because ninety percent of
their schoolwork is now done on an iPad. Kids are
a lot more tech savvy than.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
What they used to be there and not aware right
like they know how to get around our rules.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yep, they just lower their data birth. But my biggest
thing is I've had a lot of mental health impacts
with my daughter so they instead of now just bullying
or writing on a bathroom restore or passing notes, they
now post it all over social media. They make videos
about each other, they post photos of each other, and
unless you're willing to supervise your child twenty four to seven,
(05:48):
there is no way that you'll want to stop them
from being able to do it. And my daughter has
been seeing a mental health professional in that regards.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
She's thin, So is she what she's being bullied?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yes, And then it happened Revers's, well, she did the
same thing because her at ten years old, she didn't
understand that if it happens to her, why can't she
do the same thing?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Of course, so would would it do you think it
would help if there if their laws came in, oh,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I think it could be a lot more beneficial. But
there has to be access for parents and guardians as
well to get the training to know the signs when
something's going on, so know how to deal with social media,
know how to there's different acts you can that switch
it off, that lock it, limit screen time.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But without that knowledge and.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Empowering the parents and the people that have to supervise it.
It's never going to work.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You've got to try, and parents, as parents, we've got
to train, we've got to we've got to get better
at it so that we can protect the kids. I
think it's it's like you want to stay fit so
that you can still run and run around with your kids,
where you actually got to stay internet fit you can
be to protect them.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
And I do think that probably managing it rather than
banning it. Then it comes back to understanding it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's Robin and On Brisbane's Kiss ninety seven three
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