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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wake up with Robin and Kim. We've been talking with Joanne,
Lucy's mom, and she's had some pretty massive admissions for
us that she hasn't been able to tell Lucy until now.
Lucy's trying to find her biological father and we have
them both on the line now.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, Joanne, Hey, we've got your daughter Lucy on the
phone with us.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What do you want to say to each other?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Lucy?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
I'm sorry, but I honestly swear on the Bible that
I thought your.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Father was your father two.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
And a half months late, come after the affair. Yes,
on a drunken night, Yes, I was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I honestly believed that your father of thirty one years
was your biological father.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I've hurt you. I know now.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
If this played out before I was eighteen, they would
have been a child's bought everything else involved as child.
He's under eighteen, and it would have been you and
Dad chasing up this guy. And now I've got to
pick up the pieces and do it myself, like I
don't know, it's difficult, Like he's not here to help
me with everything, and you sort of just shut me.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Out, LaSIE. What do you want from your mom.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
You know, we gave her the option of, you know,
two names. She apparently worked with this guy like she
hadn't just been honest to begin with, it would have
been easier, like the fact that you worked with this person,
you would have known a name. We gave you the
option of two names.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I don't remember or even recall the name. You did
that via text message to me.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Betimes, you don't talk. I came back from the radio
station the other day and you didn't ask the questions.
You just said nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
No, because I would have expected you to come up
to me and say, hey, this is what's happened.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
But I heard it on the radio anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So Lazie, what we do.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What your mum has said to us is that there
was a party, a work party which employees of were
invited to go to, and that your mum got really drunk.
She may or may not have met that guy before,
and that she had a one night stand.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
See that would have been information that would have been
helpful for me.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Can you explain to Lucy why why you weren't able
to tell her that?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Joanne, I can't.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's so hard for me to speak about things like that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's so hard because of shame, because of guilt.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Guilt shame.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, I think sort of conversation should be had at home.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah okay, And I mean what I was going to
offer you was that if you wanted to, we could
provide a counselor that could act as an intermediate between
you two, if you would be okay, not shut down, Joanne.
I don't want to leave anyone feeling vulnerable or exposed or.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Are you okay, Joanne?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And do you feel like you know you're in a
good place to have, like, you know, if Lucy was
to come around to have an honest, open chat today.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, we can do it when I get home to
work today. But like I said, it's hard when you've
got well.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I mean, we can facilitate a place for you guys
to talk if that's what you want to do. I mean,
I feel like I don't want to just kind of
go right off.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You go go have your life, see you later.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean, if we can help you in any way
to make this process easier, then we absolutely will.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Lucy, you sound really angry.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I'm not angry. It's just going to say I'm a
bit busy at the moment. But I was happy to
have this conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Oh you're a bloody legend, mate, You're a legend.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, Well if.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We can help you and you want to have this
conversation off air and you and we can help you
with like you know, child minding or whatever it is,
please let us know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay, Okay, no problem.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do you know what I hope out all of this
is that at some point we might have broken some
ice between you and that maybe now you can both
move forward together to get the answers that you need.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So thank you, Joanne. We really appreciate your honesty, and Lucy,
we appreciate your time, and we may or may not
talk to you in the future.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Good luck, thank you, good bye. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's crazy to me that the only way that that
conversation has started, yeah, is through being on the radio,
and maybe that's what was needed.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But wow, yeah, it is interesting. I mean, I guess
to an extent, I kind of do that, like how
put stuff on the podcast, you know what I mean?
And then then all of a sudden, like my argument
with Naomi about the stupid theater room, you know what
I mean? And then all of a sudden, All of
a sudden, it goes on air, and then it's it's
out there.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's resolved to who do you feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
For out of those two?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Lucy? Yeah, do you feel sorry for Joanne at all?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I guess I can empathize if she really doesn't remember
those things and wish that they never happened. I mean,
I understand what it is to just I wish that
time in my life had never existed.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And then just not want to deal with it until
the moment that a radio station called and said, please talk.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You need to talk. Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh look, I have empathy for anyone who is trying
to run from something, but eventually life catches up, right.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We are going to catch up with Lucy again, hopefully
over the next couple days and find out what's happening
with her dad, because she has these two phone numbers.
We know she's contacted her uncle, but nothing so far
on her dad, So hopefully we'll have an update on that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Wake up with Robin and Kid
Wake up with Robin and Kim. We've been talking with Joanne,
Lucy's mom, and she's had some pretty massive admissions for
us that she hasn't been able to tell Lucy until now.
Lucy's trying to find her biological father and we have
them both on the line now.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, Joanne, Hey, we've got your daughter Lucy on the
phone with us.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
What do you want to say to each other?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Lucy?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
I'm sorry, but I honestly swear on the Bible that
I thought your.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Father was your father two.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
And a half months late, come after the affair. Yes,
on a drunken night, Yes, I was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I honestly believed that your father of thirty one years
was your biological father.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
I've hurt you. I know now.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
If this played out before I was eighteen, they would
have been a child's bought everything else involved as child.
He's under eighteen, and it would have been you and
Dad chasing up this guy. And now I've got to
pick up the pieces and do it myself, like I
don't know, it's difficult, Like he's not here to help
me with everything, and you sort of just shut me.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Out, LaSIE. What do you want from your mom.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
You know, we gave her the option of, you know,
two names. She apparently worked with this guy like she
hadn't just been honest to begin with, it would have
been easier, like the fact that you worked with this person,
you would have known a name. We gave you the
option of two names.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I don't remember or even recall the name. You did
that via text message to me.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Betimes, you don't talk. I came back from the radio
station the other day and you didn't ask the questions.
You just said nothing.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
No, because I would have expected you to come up
to me and say, hey, this is what's happened.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
But I heard it on the radio anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So Lazie, what we do.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
What your mum has said to us is that there
was a party, a work party which employees of were
invited to go to, and that your mum got really drunk.
She may or may not have met that guy before,
and that she had a one night stand.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
See that would have been information that would have been
helpful for me.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Can you explain to Lucy why why you weren't able
to tell her that?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Joanne, I can't.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's so hard for me to speak about things like that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's so hard because of shame, because of guilt.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Guilt shame.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, I think sort of conversation should be had at home.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah okay, And I mean what I was going to
offer you was that if you wanted to, we could
provide a counselor that could act as an intermediate between
you two, if you would be okay, not shut down, Joanne.
I don't want to leave anyone feeling vulnerable or exposed or.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Are you okay, Joanne?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And do you feel like you know you're in a
good place to have, like, you know, if Lucy was
to come around to have an honest, open chat today.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, we can do it when I get home to
work today. But like I said, it's hard when you've
got well.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I mean, we can facilitate a place for you guys
to talk if that's what you want to do. I mean,
I feel like I don't want to just kind of
go right off.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
You go go have your life, see you later.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean, if we can help you in any way
to make this process easier, then we absolutely will.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Lucy, you sound really angry.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I'm not angry. It's just going to say I'm a
bit busy at the moment. But I was happy to
have this conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Oh you're a bloody legend, mate, You're a legend.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, Well if.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We can help you and you want to have this
conversation off air and you and we can help you
with like you know, child minding or whatever it is,
please let us know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Okay, Okay, no problem.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Do you know what I hope out all of this
is that at some point we might have broken some
ice between you and that maybe now you can both
move forward together to get the answers that you need.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So thank you, Joanne. We really appreciate your honesty, and Lucy,
we appreciate your time, and we may or may not
talk to you in the future.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Good luck, thank you, good bye. That's crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's crazy to me that the only way that that
conversation has started, yeah, is through being on the radio,
and maybe that's what was needed.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But wow, yeah, it is interesting. I mean, I guess
to an extent, I kind of do that, like how
put stuff on the podcast, you know what I mean?
And then then all of a sudden, like my argument
with Naomi about the stupid theater room, you know what
I mean? And then all of a sudden, All of
a sudden, it goes on air, and then it's it's
out there.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's resolved to who do you feel sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
For out of those two?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Lucy? Yeah, do you feel sorry for Joanne at all?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I guess I can empathize if she really doesn't remember
those things and wish that they never happened. I mean,
I understand what it is to just I wish that
time in my life had never existed.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And then just not want to deal with it until
the moment that a radio station called and said, please talk.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You need to talk. Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh look, I have empathy for anyone who is trying
to run from something, but eventually life catches up, right.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We are going to catch up with Lucy again, hopefully
over the next couple days and find out what's happening
with her dad, because she has these two phone numbers.
We know she's contacted her uncle, but nothing so far
on her dad, So hopefully we'll have an update on that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Wake up with Robin and Kid
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