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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I heard podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the freeheart app. You're listening to the Robin
and Kit podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Alana from the news room is in here because this
is the biggest story of.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The day, which is adorable. This is adorable.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Australian news that there has been plagiarism accused in a baking.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Cookbook crecipig community Cookie community if, which is huge.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Steaks are too massive, like with millions and millions and
millions of followers.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it was like in terms of actual like impact,
it's pretty big because basically Brookie, who is a brizzy baker,
she brought out a cookbook in December and it was
so highly anticipated seller. You couldn't find it on the shelves.
I wanted one, I couldn't find.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, and you couldn't get it online. No, no, no, I
tried to her donuts and stuff like. She is such
a great baker.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I think she's like Hawthorne. I think she's my neck
of the woods.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't want to fact check you, but no, that's
not right. She's in the valley, yes.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Just across your post.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But basically, now, what's happened is a really popular home cook.
Recipe Tin Eats has come out with claims that two
recipes and Brookies cookbook will plagiaries from her Caramel Slice
and Backlavah. And also this morning a third baker has
come forward and joined and said, oh, also one of
my recipes is plagiarized. Brookie is denying everything you know,
(01:44):
saying absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, well, well the statement she's put out is it?
I mean, yes, she is. She says, in light of
the recent allegations made against me by recipe a tin
Eads for plagiarizing two of her recipes from the cookbook,
I would like to provide the below statement. I did
not plagiarize any recipe in my book, which consists of
one hundred recipes I've created over many years since falling
(02:07):
in love with baking as a child and growing up
baking with my mum in our home kitchen. This is
where I find it a bit. I immediately offered to
remove both recipes from future reprints to prevent further aggravation.
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It is weird if that's your own.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I did think it was sucks so as a as
a hobbyist baker, my two cents on this. When I
saw it is it's a caramel slice recipe. Like, I
have no idea the work that would go into creating
an independent recipe. But I saw it and I thought, well,
that's just caramel slaice recipe. And I think and I
thought it was a little bit sus that you would
(02:45):
offer to remove a recipe.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
From cook How similar are the two? Well, I have.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Identical, Yeah, so identical to the gram. Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The only different I mean. And here's the thing, because
I then googled, because I'm a bit like you, I've
gotten down a bit of a rabbit hole here. I
then looked up what like if you go to the
Cole's website and say, how do I make a caramel slice?
They use golden syrup. But both of these recipes we're
talking about the caramel filling use vanilla extract exactly the
same amount and also sweet and condensed milk.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right, so they're different to like the one you just
find anywhere necessary.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I would well, I would say marginally, because it's like
in the caramel filling you have to sweeten it with
some something, and they use brown sugar and vanilla and
the coals recipe uses golden syrup.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But other than that, they're pretty much the same.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Again, so but how different are caramel slice recipes? But
like really how different are they? You have to make
the tastes taste.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
There's one hundred recipes in that book.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well, and this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think Brookie is known for her cookies, so maybe
her suggesting, look, I'll just take it out if you're gonna,
you know, if this is going to be a thing,
I don't need a caramel slice.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
If the people buying the book one of the caramel
slice recipct why when they buy the other ones? And
if they knew it was their first like and all,
it doesn't Who how is this seriously a big story?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like because they've both made a lot of it, and
I think Brookies made a lot more.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Is she jealous?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, it's like, it's just it's a it's a multimillion
dollar book and recipes, and it's also has a range
of cookbooks.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So it's just it's more.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, I think it's more about principle, it seems, because
I don't imagine that this would actually be something that
ends up going to court, for example, and you know,
and playing out in a long legal battle.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But I also I'm not an expert.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's funny that buckliver the other one. Isn't that a
thousand year old Greek dessert? You know what I mean? Like,
how are you plagiarizing something that's been around forever?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But what are the chances to a baker like if
like if she didn't copy it, just came up with
this recipe and it was the same as someone else's,
what's the chances and they do it for a living.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It could be a coincidence, but it is all very similar.
I feel like you would have to kind of I
don't know. I feel like if you genuinely baked these,
you wouldn't see much of an actual difference in the
end products.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And so what I think when to do is for
you to bake the brookies are caramel slice and just
the coals one which uses completely different recipe, and just
to see if you could break them today and bring
them in tomorrow so we can test.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I can do that, yeah, and see if you can
even taste the different and it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Will prove something and it'll give us definitive proof exactly
something I.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Doubt much different.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, well, we won't know until tomorrow if we can
taste the difference, and so I think we should research
it and if you could bake it for us.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Please and go.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
The whole time you just want to sack, not mine,
but yeah,
I heard podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the freeheart app. You're listening to the Robin
and Kit podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Alana from the news room is in here because this
is the biggest story of.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
The day, which is adorable. This is adorable.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Australian news that there has been plagiarism accused in a baking.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Cookbook crecipig community Cookie community if, which is huge.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Steaks are too massive, like with millions and millions and
millions of followers.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, it was like in terms of actual like impact,
it's pretty big because basically Brookie, who is a brizzy baker,
she brought out a cookbook in December and it was
so highly anticipated seller. You couldn't find it on the shelves.
I wanted one, I couldn't find.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, and you couldn't get it online. No, no, no, I
tried to her donuts and stuff like. She is such
a great baker.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I think she's like Hawthorne. I think she's my neck
of the woods.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't want to fact check you, but no, that's
not right. She's in the valley, yes.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Just across your post.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But basically, now, what's happened is a really popular home cook.
Recipe Tin Eats has come out with claims that two
recipes and Brookies cookbook will plagiaries from her Caramel Slice
and Backlavah. And also this morning a third baker has
come forward and joined and said, oh, also one of
my recipes is plagiarized. Brookie is denying everything you know,
(01:44):
saying absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, well, well the statement she's put out is it?
I mean, yes, she is. She says, in light of
the recent allegations made against me by recipe a tin
Eads for plagiarizing two of her recipes from the cookbook,
I would like to provide the below statement. I did
not plagiarize any recipe in my book, which consists of
one hundred recipes I've created over many years since falling
(02:07):
in love with baking as a child and growing up
baking with my mum in our home kitchen. This is
where I find it a bit. I immediately offered to
remove both recipes from future reprints to prevent further aggravation.
That's weird.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It is weird if that's your own.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I did think it was sucks so as a as
a hobbyist baker, my two cents on this. When I
saw it is it's a caramel slice recipe. Like, I
have no idea the work that would go into creating
an independent recipe. But I saw it and I thought, well,
that's just caramel slaice recipe. And I think and I
thought it was a little bit sus that you would
(02:45):
offer to remove a recipe.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
From cook How similar are the two? Well, I have.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Identical, Yeah, so identical to the gram. Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
The only different I mean. And here's the thing, because
I then googled, because I'm a bit like you, I've
gotten down a bit of a rabbit hole here. I
then looked up what like if you go to the
Cole's website and say, how do I make a caramel slice?
They use golden syrup. But both of these recipes we're
talking about the caramel filling use vanilla extract exactly the
same amount and also sweet and condensed milk.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right, so they're different to like the one you just
find anywhere necessary.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I would well, I would say marginally, because it's like
in the caramel filling you have to sweeten it with
some something, and they use brown sugar and vanilla and
the coals recipe uses golden syrup.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But other than that, they're pretty much the same.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Again, so but how different are caramel slice recipes? But
like really how different are they? You have to make
the tastes taste.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
There's one hundred recipes in that book.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well, and this is the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I think Brookie is known for her cookies, so maybe
her suggesting, look, I'll just take it out if you're gonna,
you know, if this is going to be a thing,
I don't need a caramel slice.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
If the people buying the book one of the caramel
slice recipct why when they buy the other ones? And
if they knew it was their first like and all,
it doesn't Who how is this seriously a big story?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like because they've both made a lot of it, and
I think Brookies made a lot more.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Is she jealous?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, it's like, it's just it's a it's a multimillion
dollar book and recipes, and it's also has a range
of cookbooks.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So it's just it's more.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, I think it's more about principle, it seems, because
I don't imagine that this would actually be something that
ends up going to court, for example, and you know,
and playing out in a long legal battle.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But I also I'm not an expert.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's funny that buckliver the other one. Isn't that a
thousand year old Greek dessert? You know what I mean? Like,
how are you plagiarizing something that's been around forever?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
But what are the chances to a baker like if
like if she didn't copy it, just came up with
this recipe and it was the same as someone else's,
what's the chances and they do it for a living.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It could be a coincidence, but it is all very similar.
I feel like you would have to kind of I
don't know. I feel like if you genuinely baked these,
you wouldn't see much of an actual difference in the
end products.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And so what I think when to do is for
you to bake the brookies are caramel slice and just
the coals one which uses completely different recipe, and just
to see if you could break them today and bring
them in tomorrow so we can test.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I can do that, yeah, and see if you can
even taste the different and it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Will prove something and it'll give us definitive proof exactly
something I.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Doubt much different.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, well, we won't know until tomorrow if we can
taste the difference, and so I think we should research
it and if you could bake it for us.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Please and go.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
The whole time you just want to sack, not mine,
but yeah,
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