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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I heard podcasts year more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Free Heart April of Trams.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So get a April. Are you ready to get this
story off your chest?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So my kinks sexually so taboo? I have cheated outside
my relationship?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Your your kinks?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Did you say yes? So?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Can you label those kinks? What are they?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So? BFM play? So submissive dominant play? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So rough?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Do you like to be the submissive or do you
like to be the dominant?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I prefer to be the submissive.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Interesting, Well, is this like fifty shades of gray stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is? Isn't it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
April? It is? It is.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's much lawful on the sort of the fifty shades
of gray stuff. Wow, wow, Yeah, fifty shades of gray
just sort of touches on things.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So that was like a Disney verse of interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And you did just say you're wow, you've cheated on
your relationships?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Right, So, okay, are you in one right now?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not in a relationship right now. So I had
been seeing someone for the last sixteen years who introduced
me into the BDSN side of things on and off
over the years, and that so he's one that I've
always returned to with the beads and sort of stuff.
He's definitely that one that I go for.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So let me let me be clear here. What you're
saying is that you would go about and have a
normal relationship with a guy. Yes, okay, and then after
a certain period of time, you weren't being sexually satisfied,
so then you went back to this other guy. Yes,
(02:04):
and you were cheat than the guy that you were
with emotionally yes.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right? And what about this other guy? Was he in
relationships or in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yes, he's been in relationships. He was married there at
one stage for a few years.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow, and he was cheating on with you?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Wow? Is that because you couldn't tell your partner, whatever
partners you've had, that you're into something a bit kinky.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I've told one partner a little bit, but he couldn't
tell all of his partners. But I held a lot
back as well, so he knew the true me, skuy
I cheated on with. He knew the real me and
knew what I was interested in. And I knew the
real him and what he was interested in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So why not just be with this guy? If you've
been together for sixteen years, effectively cheating on other people
because you both like the same thing, why not be together.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
He never wanted a relationship with me, so we dated
when I was really young, and then we split and
then he never wanted a relationship with me, so he
saw more of subdominant relationship sort of thing like a
twenty four to seven in house service.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Basically, let's pull this right back so that we can
understand exactly what we're talking about. So with this guy,
you used to do.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
What So it used to be handcuffs with paddles. We've
done doggy plays that may include cages, colors, leashes, sometimestsport.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Water sports, knee boarding, golden showers.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh that's no water, that's not water.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Submissive and dominant is a lifestyle, right, or it can be.
So when you were with him, did you refer to
him as your master? Did you behave subserviently? Twenty four
to seven.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So when I was with him, he was actually my
partner at the time, so I think I just used
to refer to him as boyfriend. But then over the
years he's always been masters.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Interesting, So you let him pretty much take control of
the whole thing and that's what you like. Yes, that's correct,
And this guy does not want to be with you.
And you've then spent time with other men in loving,
caring relationships, I'm guessing. Yes, what happens to the sex
in those relationships it goes.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
It's not fulfilling for me. I've had it. There's sometimes
I'll pull away. There's one relationship where I've definitely pulled
away in the sexual department. I'll have it just to
satisfy my partner, but it's not fulfilling for me.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Do you tell them what interest you before or no?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, I'm definitely not upfront. It's still very much a
society or a lifestyle that definitely looked upon or frowned
upon in that and I think also been a female
as well. It's not something that you're meant to be into.
So I'm very much reserved as to what I may
say to my partners as to what I enjoy like.
(05:15):
It might be just a case of the fifty shades
of gray down graded. So it might just be a
case of teen cuffs that I enjoy and that's it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But in reality it's not enough.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
No, no, And have you tried to bring it into
your normal lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I've had one relationship where we've played a little bit,
but again it still wasn't that fufilling because it wasn't
sort of, it wasn't the person that I wanted it
to be.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Withyril, would you be willing to give up this lifestyle
if you found someone that you're in love with that
you could have children with?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh wow, okay, well there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It is a very tough choice, but it's one that
I've got to come to terms with if I want
the children and if I want the marriage, and that's
definitely something that he can't offer me.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, thank you, yeah, thank you. Think okay, thinking about
the future, you when your kids come running out of
the bedroom and going, Mum, how come we've got a
horse whip but we don't have a horse.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
As long as they don't take any toys to skill,
that is true.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Five hundred bucks for sharing your confession with us. Thank you, April,
Thank you very much.
I heard podcasts year more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the Free Heart April of Trams.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So get a April. Are you ready to get this
story off your chest?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So my kinks sexually so taboo? I have cheated outside
my relationship?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Your your kinks?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Did you say yes? So?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Can you label those kinks? What are they?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So? BFM play? So submissive dominant play? Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So rough?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Do you like to be the submissive or do you
like to be the dominant?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I prefer to be the submissive.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Interesting, Well, is this like fifty shades of gray stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is? Isn't it? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
April? It is? It is.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's much lawful on the sort of the fifty shades
of gray stuff. Wow, wow, Yeah, fifty shades of gray
just sort of touches on things.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So that was like a Disney verse of interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And you did just say you're wow, you've cheated on
your relationships?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Right, So, okay, are you in one right now?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not in a relationship right now. So I had
been seeing someone for the last sixteen years who introduced
me into the BDSN side of things on and off
over the years, and that so he's one that I've
always returned to with the beads and sort of stuff.
He's definitely that one that I go for.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So let me let me be clear here. What you're
saying is that you would go about and have a
normal relationship with a guy. Yes, okay, and then after
a certain period of time, you weren't being sexually satisfied,
so then you went back to this other guy. Yes,
(02:04):
and you were cheat than the guy that you were
with emotionally yes.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right? And what about this other guy? Was he in
relationships or in a relationship?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yes, he's been in relationships. He was married there at
one stage for a few years.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Wow, and he was cheating on with you?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Interesting?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Wow? Is that because you couldn't tell your partner, whatever
partners you've had, that you're into something a bit kinky.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I've told one partner a little bit, but he couldn't
tell all of his partners. But I held a lot
back as well, so he knew the true me, skuy
I cheated on with. He knew the real me and
knew what I was interested in. And I knew the
real him and what he was interested in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So why not just be with this guy? If you've
been together for sixteen years, effectively cheating on other people
because you both like the same thing, why not be together.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
He never wanted a relationship with me, so we dated
when I was really young, and then we split and
then he never wanted a relationship with me, so he
saw more of subdominant relationship sort of thing like a
twenty four to seven in house service.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Basically, let's pull this right back so that we can
understand exactly what we're talking about. So with this guy,
you used to do.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
What So it used to be handcuffs with paddles. We've
done doggy plays that may include cages, colors, leashes, sometimestsport.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Water sports, knee boarding, golden showers.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh that's no water, that's not water.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Submissive and dominant is a lifestyle, right, or it can be.
So when you were with him, did you refer to
him as your master? Did you behave subserviently? Twenty four
to seven.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So when I was with him, he was actually my
partner at the time, so I think I just used
to refer to him as boyfriend. But then over the
years he's always been masters.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Interesting, So you let him pretty much take control of
the whole thing and that's what you like. Yes, that's correct,
And this guy does not want to be with you.
And you've then spent time with other men in loving,
caring relationships, I'm guessing. Yes, what happens to the sex
in those relationships it goes.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
It's not fulfilling for me. I've had it. There's sometimes
I'll pull away. There's one relationship where I've definitely pulled
away in the sexual department. I'll have it just to
satisfy my partner, but it's not fulfilling for me.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Do you tell them what interest you before or no?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, I'm definitely not upfront. It's still very much a
society or a lifestyle that definitely looked upon or frowned
upon in that and I think also been a female
as well. It's not something that you're meant to be into.
So I'm very much reserved as to what I may
say to my partners as to what I enjoy like.
(05:15):
It might be just a case of the fifty shades
of gray down graded. So it might just be a
case of teen cuffs that I enjoy and that's it.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But in reality it's not enough.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
No, no, And have you tried to bring it into
your normal lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I've had one relationship where we've played a little bit,
but again it still wasn't that fufilling because it wasn't
sort of, it wasn't the person that I wanted it
to be.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Withyril, would you be willing to give up this lifestyle
if you found someone that you're in love with that
you could have children with?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh wow, okay, well there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It is a very tough choice, but it's one that
I've got to come to terms with if I want
the children and if I want the marriage, and that's
definitely something that he can't offer me.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, thank you, yeah, thank you. Think okay, thinking about
the future, you when your kids come running out of
the bedroom and going, Mum, how come we've got a
horse whip but we don't have a horse.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
As long as they don't take any toys to skill,
that is true.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Five hundred bucks for sharing your confession with us. Thank you, April,
Thank you very much.
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