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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Robin and Kibb Now with Koreos. The podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
One Day, It's Robin and kipp Now with Choreo Its
on demand.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We've got an extra podcast around today as well, if
you haven't seen it, where you get your podcast Chanelle
who we chatted to and you'll hear bits of that
interview today. This is the form of best friend of
Belle Gibson, who is the famous fraudster who told people
she had brain cancer when she didn't and made millions.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, you need to need to listen.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, get the full body.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Make sure you're not need a screen or a mirror
or anything to break.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So when we come back at halftime, though, we've got
some great texts and messages to the show that we
didn't actually get to. Very funny, So let's do that
at halftime.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Robin and KiB Now with Choreos the Podcast.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
It was the Lie that suk Australia cancer con.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
Woman Belle Gibson.
Speaker 8 (01:04):
Bell Gibson admits she made up the whole story and
inspired the Netflix sensation Apple Side of Vinegar.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The story and undoing of Bell Gibson.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I have been healing brain cancer with natural medicine it's
working for me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
It is you didn't have brain cancer? No, I didn't.
Speaker 7 (01:22):
Joining us today is Chanelle Bell Gibson's former friend who
exposed her in one of the most shocking fraud cases
in Australian history. Chanelle is here with Robin Kipp and
Corey Oates to share her story.
Speaker 9 (01:34):
Hi, welcome, Thank you, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Chanelle.
Speaker 8 (01:38):
You are a former friend of Belle Gibson. How did
you guys meet?
Speaker 9 (01:42):
We met when I was doing a writing internship at
a publication that was interested in doing a piece on her.
It was when her star was really on the ride.
So I reached out and she invited me to the
launch of the Whole Pantry app So we didn't get
much time to speak that night at her events, so
(02:02):
we went for coffee and it turned out we had
some mutual friends and then just naturally, a friendship formed
the man.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
The story that she ran is that she had multiple illnesses,
but particularly brain cancer, and was able to cure this
by eating clean and drinking juices and apple side vinegar
and things like that.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
Yeah, that's right, and it was a very dangerous message
that she was spreading the very vulnerable people with cancel
and making very serious decisions about their life and their health.
So that's why I thought it was really important to
stop the misinformation that she was spreading because it was
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all based on a.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Lie, and you obviously knew you before it obviously came out,
and try to stop her. Do you remember how long
it took, like the first time you first realized to
then obviously when you had to try and get other
people to help you exposure.
Speaker 9 (03:00):
Yeah, it was quite a few months and it was
quite disheartening to see how challenge it challenging it is
to actually get people to believe you. And I first
went to the police to record it. They told me
I didn't have any evidence, which I didn't. I went
to quite a high profile lawyer. He actually accused me
(03:20):
of flander and decimation. I then went to Australia's top
investigative journalist at the time. He hadn't heard of Bell
and he said he might look into it, and he
might or he might not. And I never heard back
from him. So I started to feel quite powerless in
exhausting all the avenues that I had, and eventually my
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former boss went to the editor at the Age and
vouched for me.
Speaker 10 (03:46):
It's something incredible.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And then did you maintain a friendship through this time?
Like while you were trying to expose her, did you
cut off your friendship or were you still friends?
Speaker 9 (03:56):
I mean Bell actually cut it off because she obviously
she knew what I was trying to do and didn't
want her lives to be unraveled. When I went to
Bell and confronted her and asked her to produce medical
evidence to prove that she had cancer, as firm as
I was, I did go to her as her friend,
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and I did tell her that if she came forward
and tell the truth that I would help her and
support her. So I actually never set out to expose
Bal or have her canceled. I wanted her to be
able to do it, and had she been able to
be able to do that accountability, things could have played
out very differently for her.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
How did she do it?
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Channel, Like, this is a woman who has got herself
millions of dollars, published a book, you know, hundreds of
thousands of followers as an influencer.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
How did she do this?
Speaker 9 (04:55):
Well, this is a patent. Bell had actually been already
doing most of her life. She had already been faking
different illnesses and diseases in other communities, and I think
getting quite attached to that sympathy and admiration she would
get from pretending to be sick, and from what I
(05:15):
experienced and witnessed, it was also a business strategy. Her
lifestyle changed very quickly. She started to earn a lot
of money from projecting this mis information and these lives.
And I guess the message here is that especially vulnerable
people with cancer, they want to have hope, They want
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to they want to believe that there's another way, and
so she leveraged that she knew that that was the case,
and so there was kind of so many levels to this.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I have a husband who died of cancer, so I
totally understand the desperation. What I guess I'm trying to
get my head around is did was she a mimic?
She must have been copying people, She must have been
writing people with cancer.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
She must have.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Been able to articulate all the things that would make
it seem really viable.
Speaker 9 (06:11):
Actually, my partner at the time had a traumatic brain injury,
and she formed quite a correspond with him and then
claimed that she had a traumatic brain injury as a
result of her brain cancer, and so she was actually
leveraging his symptoms to make them as her own, which
she actually did with many people. She formed a relationship
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with a young boy who did have brain cancer and
his family, and she was actually taking advantage of him
to learn about his symptoms to then make them her own.
This is what she did with many people.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Now, do you have any idea, And I mean it's
maybe an unanswerable question, but do you know how many
people's lives may have been lost.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Or impacted by this? Because people would have died.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
I mean, even just one person who lost lost their
life or their health was affected directly by this is
enough to measure, right. I look, personally, I knew someone
in my life who did stop conventional treatment because of Bell,
and unfortunately she's not here anymore. Obviously we can't directly
(07:31):
correlate that. It's very devastating.
Speaker 8 (07:36):
What about her partner and her son, Like, you know,
this woman was living a life with a family. Do
you know much about them and whether they, like the
little boy was small, her son, but what about her partner?
Speaker 9 (07:51):
I mean that was the main reason. One of the
main reasons I also went to Bell is because I
witnessed that Bell's son was aware that his mother is
basically dying, So that was one of my main concerns.
Her partner at the time, Clive, we never really could
figure out his involvement. He was connected to her business,
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but it was really hard to pin down whether he.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Knew or not right and the Federal Court of Australia
ordered her to pay a fine four hundred thousand Australian dollars,
but it sounds like that fine is less than the
money she actually made from the fraud. So do you
feel like that conviction was enough?
Speaker 9 (08:30):
No, I mean justice really hasn't been served for the
people that bal has impacted because that fine hasn't been enforced,
she hasn't paid any of it. But also she hasn't
taken any accountability to give closure to the people she
took advantage of and the charities she ripped off. And
what is actually most devastating about that fine that she
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hasn't paid is that one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
of that fine has ordered by the judge to be
paid to the family of that little boy that did
have brain cancer that she took advantage of, and that
will just be really tragic if that family.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
She's that Ye, so she never paid the fine. Do
we know what she's doing now where she is now?
Speaker 9 (09:17):
I do know that over the years, Bell has earned
some type of income, and I think Belle could still
try and make some amends in some way by voluntarily
making any contribution she can to that fine.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
May you feature quite heavily in the Netflix show your
character does Apple p seidl Viniger. How do you feel
about this particular portrayal of this whole story.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
I'm not very comfortable with the TV show, to be honest.
I think it's obviously a glamorization drama for entertainment purposes.
I do think they are trying to tell some important
audit messages, which is real to the story about how
we can easily be misled by people online, how these
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companies enabled Bell by not doing any due diligence. But
there's a few things that I've found unethical about it.
And I also think that it's ironic that the show
is all about how baud it is that someone financially
took advantage of people with cancer for that very show
to profit from that harm that was cause to people
(10:29):
with cancer. So I would like to hope that Netflix
for the film producers have maybe made some donations to
the people that were impacted by Bell and I just
really hope for something positive can come out of this.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, I can tell you this Youanel, we are donating
five hundred dollars to the Cancer Council on behalf of
you for your time this morning. We really appreciate you
sharing with us this morning.
Speaker 9 (10:54):
Thank you. That's really appreciated.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
And I guess the message of this is about the
power of influences and the awful ramifications of people who
have no conscience destroying other people's lives.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yes, it's it's a very scary story, and I hope
there are some important lessons that we can learn from it.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Thank you so much, Thanks Chanel.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (11:24):
Kid.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Now with the podcast, we talked about a couple of
weeks ago when Rafie, my little boy, was having his
first day at prep.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, how's he going.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah he's really enjoying it. Yeah he's he's not coming
home as tired as I thought. He Well, you know
when goes oh, they're wrecked. He's got energy. Man, that
kid's got energy.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But don't they They still have rest, don't they?
Speaker 8 (11:45):
In the first of prep and then yeah, quiet time,
like they don't sleep like they do a daycare, but
they have a quiet kind of just maybe.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
But like Friday night, I couldn't get him to sleep
till after nine o'clock he's gone the other Yeah, it's
like he's pumped him up.
Speaker 11 (12:02):
I'm waiting for it, but well, no, there's no But
he's got a lot of energy.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
He's having fun. You know, there is a button. Here's
the thing, and thirteen one oh sixty five is our number.
I'm sure you've got if you've had kids that have
gone to school and all of a sudden they've just
come back with a bit of chude, a bit of attitude.
Thirteen one oh sixty five.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What's he done?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Because he's such a delightful little boy, he's so kind,
But like the other I think it was a couple
of nights ago, were sitting and Naomi had been to
the doctor that day and I said something that I'd forgotten.
I'd forgotten about something not a big surprise, and just
out of there he goes, maybe you need to go
to the doctor, get your brain checked a right, and
then back into his chicken burger like you just dropped
(12:45):
that on me. I was like, well, what the heck,
what's your attitude? Fair point?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
What did you say?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And do?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I laughed.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I was trying not to because I was like, I
don't want to encourage this, but that's funny. It's more
because you're like, they're smarter, should give me a brain checked.
Speaker 8 (13:02):
So they're you know, he's obviously getting kids who are
given him sas.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, I reckon, So he's sassin back. Yeah, yeah, he's learning,
he's learned sas already and he goes to a good
school with lovely kids. But somehow the sas already.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You would love sass in your kids.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Actually, I tell you, three year old told you to shush.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What chance have we gotdit?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
God?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Are you because you're talking and shush dad? Okay?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Thirteen one oh six five. Have you got a sass
a kid? He's been putting you in your place because
they can.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You got shushed by someone in a nappy? Thirty one
oh six five.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Robi Kids Now with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Thirty one oh six five is our number though, because
we're talking about sassy kids. I got sass by a
wrath my five year old who said, I need to
go to the doctor to get my brain checked yesterday
out of nowhere.
Speaker 10 (14:01):
So Clara Springley, Hello, Hi, Robin, how are you this morning?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yes? Good, Thank you mate. Now you have three daughters,
I'm sure there's some sess there.
Speaker 10 (14:11):
Robin, between the three girls. Seriously, my husband doesn't stand
a chance. I don't stand a chance. For he's got
Miss fourteen, who is our diva. We've got Miss eleven,
who's our introvert, doesn't like people and has the pet
snake and the pet border collie, Miss six, who is
a perfect mix plus one thousand of both of them.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, and you've got a story about the six year old.
What did she do?
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (14:34):
So Miss six recently lost a truth it was probably
only about three days ago actually, and wrote a lovely
letter to the tooth Fairy saying that it's been nice
and clean for her and requesting thirty dollars. Thirty dollars
for one tooth. I explained to her, actually it became
because the truth Fairy forgot to come that night. And
I explained to her that possibly the reason the truth
(14:56):
Fairy didn't come was because she asked for quite an
exhorbitant amount. The fat fairy wouldn't be apprecive of that,
to which she replied, well, mum, she's got to realize
that's inflation.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Inflation was a brave little girl. It takes on the toothpairy.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean, what does this truth fairy not know about inflation?
I mean, what's your fiscal policy? Tooth fairy.
Speaker 6 (15:22):
Kids?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Now with Correo the podcast.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Brisbane's biggest game of Hide and Seed is coming mine.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Any moment. Now, we're going to be taken to a
hidden location somewhere in Brisbane. We don't know when, we
don't know where, but the first person to find us
knock on the door wins twenty thousand dollars. And you know,
it's all good and well in theory. But now we're
starting to get close to the point we're being taken.
We're realizing that it's really going to affect us our lives.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
It's only just dawned on as might change. So we've
called in and we want to know, like, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Okay, So I find it surprising that you are in
the meeting yet none of you are prepared to leave
it any given moment, which we've been saying for about
two weeks. Now, you are going to be taken at
any moment.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So are your bags packed?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
How many?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, I'm pack too.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
There you go, So you're a little bit right.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Then the rule is budget packed today, bring your bag
tomorrow so we can actually cite your bag. But pack today.
You should already be packed, but packed now.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
So does that mean we're not going to get taken today?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I can't tell you. You can neither confirm nor deny.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Okay, what about our plans for Valentine's Day? Because I've
got I've got a whole series of things, cars, please,
hotel rooms and then uh huh, so what about tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Stop making plans. You are going to be taken at
any moment.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You know this.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
I did have a very your conversation with a doctor
two days ago about how I couldn't make an appointment
because I was going to be taking.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
The doctor's like, what do you mean they're going to
put a bag over my head?
Speaker 10 (17:13):
And again Will, there's got a prescription for that.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So now you had an update as well, Ali that
because obviously someone the person who finds us in the
flesh wins twenty thousand dollars, but some people might find
it hard or difficult to actually get out and find
our locations. So there's another way people can win.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You can still register your guesses online and the person
who is the closest within a five hundred wins one
thousand dollars five hundred, one thousand dollars. So you can
still win a thousand dollars for guessing where you guys
are from the confort of your own home. But you
want to win the twenty case.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
So if you're pretty sure, go Dawn, O you okay?
So can we just like double down a bit on this.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
Are we in the Brisbane City Council Area Brisbane.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
City Council Area? Not necessarily because in the Brisbane you're
considered aware.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Somewhere that we get ratings, So you have to be
with like Redlands up to south.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Switch you consider you live in Brisbane Greater Brisbane.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Okay, near anything that is identifiable, Like, is there any
way that we're going to be able to tell by
just being.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I can't confirm nor deny anything about the space at
this point.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Are we going to be able to be taken on
the weekend?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It's possible.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yes, you can be taken at any point.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I don't I don't know to sit on the couch
and partner.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Actually, there's a Broncos trial on this weekend. I'm going
to I'm going we have our ways, okay, all right,
So well that's with our families, Like do they know
more about this than we do?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Not necessarily more, but they're they're aware because taken at
any point.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Have the same about a memory capacity of these two.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, you've got stuff. Yeah, okay, So cancel all of
my plans for Valentine's and arrange children all my elaborate plans. Ah, no, shame,
I'll have to call them.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
No, you were doing Valentine's Day, whether you are there or.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Not what you facetimeon?
Speaker 11 (19:20):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Tell me about the start up fair enough, We will
be taken at any moment. You can win twenty thousand dollars.
You can't register yet, soon register when you'll take it.
As soon as we get taken, that's when you're head
online and register for your chance to win the twenty
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Now with Coos the podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Halfway through the podcast. If ever you want to text
to be a part of the podcast, you can do
that anytime for ow nine nine seven three nine seven three.
We had a couple of messages through today that we
didn't get to on the show. Re who said, good morning,
amazing team, Happy Thursday. Have you considered that Brisbane may
deliberately not look for you? No, the twenty grand, twenty
(20:05):
day together long, it's touched free many.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I love that you're so enthusiastic about this read but.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, no, I think people. I think the twenty grand
will get people across the line, even though we will
be losing our minds. Twenty that's huge, just massive in it. Yeah,
you've got to earn forty grand to get twenty hands.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
Two has said please don't take them. I want to
see what they do for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh yes, thank you, thank you too.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
And then Stacy is saying how lovely to be taken
on Valentine's Day, to be wanted.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You can all have a date night. Yeah No.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Noel says, oh you can come and hide at my
plays No, I'll never find yes, And Linelle who says,
I think Monday is the day. I think the team
will be kind enough to arrange a full day of
daddy day care for Kip on his Valentine's Day gift
for his beautiful Naomi, followed by a house full of
visitors Sunday, So Kip will be bet to be stolen Monday.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I like this one because we were talking on the
show today about about sass from five and six six
year olds. Linda sent this one through. Said Sass my
daughter when she was around five to six, she'd left
a cricket bat on the lawn. It started raining, so
her father said, go and bring that bat inside. Water
and wood don't mix. Well, she stopped, paused for a
(21:26):
minute and said, didn't know what make his arc out
of woods?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
My gosh, brain.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know, we've we've had them kind of closeted away.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
If they've gone to day care, they're still so little,
and they but when they get to school and they
see that there are kids, and usually it's the eldest
of families.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Get more sas because they go to school.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
With the youngest in families, right, and the youngest who
been taught by their older siblings. So there's sassi that
it's just part of their life.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I've been taught the same.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
The eldest one is going, wow, can you say that?
And get away with it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
What happens? Yeah, oh man, I just have you to
stop laughing. It's so hard when it's funny. You're right though,
I know you do, but you can't not. How do
you not laugh when it's like they're right?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Yeah, Then you can get into the really boring, which
is possibly, you know, the nagger in the family's responsibility
of saying, well.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
There's appropriate times for those sorts of.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Laugh.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That's not going to be.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's not going to be.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But if they get me, and they get me all
the time, these.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Kids, you go, I'm gone, you can't laugh.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Has actually corrected me with the pronunciation of a word.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Do you remember what word you are correct?
Speaker 6 (22:49):
What was the word?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
It might have been?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
It might have been like like a like a double word,
like a double letter double or something at the time,
because she was learning all the noises and the head
of pronouncing that and I got a big bogan naus
the accident.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So yeah, so well I can't remember what the word was.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
But she went no, no, it's I'm like no snot.
Then taking her she goes, mate, you're wrong.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Don't worry about it. I make a whole new words.
Words together, I smashed them. My little brain.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Can't work it out, and I just sometimes you improve it.
Most of the time, I'm sad it because they're smarter
than you and they're.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Rob and kids. Now with Coos the podcast, Let's talk
about maps, Let's talk about trash tea, Let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
All the good things and the bad things marriage can be.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Let's talk about Yeah, we've been talking a lot about
maps this morning, because there is a.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Lot to talk about.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Last night was the dinner party in which the experts
were watching as pretty much the whole thing imploded. I
think they thought they were going to have a quiet night.
That was not the case.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Why would they think that, I know all the other
dinner parties, they all get on the booth and then
everyone starts selling truth and it's.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Ended with a real cliffhanger that will have to wait
till Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
But it looks like an affair is brewing.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Oh yeah, so I'll bring you more of that next week.
But last night was kind of interesting because I think
one of the reasons why they bring the older couples
into the maths experiment is because they come.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
With a lot of baggage.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Don't we all right.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
So Tony and Morna are in their fifties and it's
becoming quite clear that both of them are struggling with
each other because of their perception of their old relationship.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
So have a listen. You should know how to treat
a woman.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Maybe we need some time off, give you break.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
After spending a night in his home in Wollongong, Tony
returned to their apartment and has been trying to make
peace with his wife Marina.
Speaker 12 (25:01):
Tony disappears because he can't come. He didn't want to
hang out with me, and I don't know why. What's
him not to love about me? I don't have a patience.
I'm just and I'm extremely considerate of people's feelings.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
With Tony, he's got.
Speaker 12 (25:20):
A wall that goes way up there, goes way up there.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
What do I do with that?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You might have to have a look at yourself, both
of them.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
So Tony's a bolter, and that has been obviously stuff
that he's done his whole relationship life. When the going
gets tough, tough, Tony gets going. Marenna is someone who
just doubles down and gets more and more and more aggressive.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Now we know about her, she was in it.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
I think what was an abusive relationship for a really
long time. So she is so ready to pounce on
any sort of behavior that might trigger your previous life.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Understandable. Not great when you're trying to start your love No,
not with don Non.
Speaker 8 (26:04):
You know they're both then they're both European and they're
quite fiery. Yeah, but I was curious because you and
I have a lot of experience.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, some more than others.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Robin.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
Yeah, actually, before you and I doubled down, Corey, yeah,
because you've just how many relationships.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
One you had to have had girlfriends before teas though
you had some girlfriends we met. I was twenty one, Yes,
twenty one okay, but there was still a couple of
years where you were a young Bronco and things were
probably looking up for you, and you might have been.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Do you see me?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
It doesn't acne and pimples. And I appreciated Afro has
like one hundred and you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Would have had some fun. Sure, he may not have
had relationshipships. Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So you and I. Meanwhile, I've taken it for everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yes, Now, how are you going You're in a well,
it's not even that new anymore. You've been a year
and now Olivia. Yeah, so what baggage have you discovered
that you so much we're going to bring.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Yeah, it's so interesting because I spent four and a
half years by myself after my husband Sean died, and
I did so much counseling and so much work on myself,
and when I when I first met Olivia, it became
really clear that whatever you're doing counseling is theory.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
What you do with a real human totally different.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
Yeah, it's I've had heaps of triggers, heaps of times
where I've had to walk away and go, can you
you need to stop this.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
This is an old behavior. This is not fair.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
You're talking to yourself. You're talking to Olivia.
Speaker 8 (27:38):
No me, I talk to me like literally look like
a crazy woman. But I took to you know, in
the mirror, going that's enough.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, right, that's enough.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Yeah, And you know, I think I don't think I'm
talking out of school to say because he was in
a very long term relationship that he's the same.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's like you have.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
To kind of recalibrate yourself to just get out of
the habit. First of all, you've got to recognize the habit,
then you've got to change it. Yeah, and that takes time.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Yeah, enough about me, mister Whiteman.
Speaker 12 (28:08):
Well what I do.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What I discovered is that I and I've done this,
and you know, when you've got a habit and you
know it's a bad habit and you don't stop doing
it for whatever reason, becaus is that I would go
quiet if in an argument I get to a certain
point where I just go, right, that's it. I'm not
talking to you anyone. I'm not talking anymore. I put
up a wall and I could just lie in bed
next to someone and just be like complete shut out,
shut out, and I'd see they're going this is and
(28:33):
I've done it with Naomi, you know, even knowing that
it's been bad for me in the past, and said
they're going and you could be, even in your own head, going,
this is a stupid idea, this is what you always do.
Why don't you stop doing it? And fortunately for me
with Naomi, she went, what are you doing? Stop it?
Stop it? Whatever you're doing, stop it?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Does that work?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It works? Does it? It worked? I was like, okay, yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
You just needed someone else to just needed someone to
it and do you stop it now?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah, So in Ide and Seek, if you're doing something,
I just really say.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
Stop, stop, stop, roll some newspaper like I'm a bad
labor door whacking over the nose with it, and I'll
stop ron now with the podcast.
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Speaker 8 (29:55):
And we've got a bit of an upper cut this
morning from oppos Ali, who is like, you guys are
not taking this serious. And we got told that we
are not to put in anything into our diaries from
this moment on.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So Valentine's plans everything's on hold weekend at home anyway,
there has been maybe or maybe a weekend in hiding hiding.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
Well, there's been a great suggestion, says hey, guys, this
is on our text line O four nine nine seven
three ninety seven three. Have you considered going into an
escape room? It will really test if you guys can
stand being in an enclosed area with each other for
an hour, let alone months.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Have you either of you done an escape room?
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I've them for a reason.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well, that's even that we should do that. That's a
fun thing to do.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I tried one about fifteen, maybe twelve years ago or
something like that with a girlfriend. Terrible. We were terrible
at it. So and I really went in with high
expectations of myself. I thought I was going to be
able to follow.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
The creative snape.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
We don't put logic into any sort of sequence. But
I think, do you want to do it today?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
How do they work?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So I think you go from we went in and
then when I did it, it's quite a dark room.
It's a small room. I guess it'll be similar to
where we're small, where we're hidden. Yeah, and then there
will be like an original clue, It'll be like a
check behind the blue box or whatever. And so you've
got to go through all the clues to get your
way out of this room. You've got to key and
then you get to.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Open a door. Yes, you want, and we can do it,
like you can do it when we come off there.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
But we should get someone who could watch us and
then rate how we're going, Like get a ser Yeah,
like a counselor or a psychologist, and see who's going
to be the leader, who's going to be the doer,
who's gonna sit in the corner.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And rock.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, dragonoscopes. Yes, I'm getting people try and take the leaf.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I know he will try and take the leaf, and
you and Corey I reckon. If you lose interest, you'll
just start causing habit.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I've just checked. There's one close. There's one in the CVD.
There's like it's got Fox in a box Brisbane dot Com.
It's got high ratings too, so we can go there.
Thank you for the show. Yeah, okay, that.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Ali does it. If we do this, it does not
mean you can take us.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
We can't be taken to plan.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Taken, stipulate.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Maybe you get taken from the estate. We have to organize.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Okay, well either way, Yeah, let's try it. After show
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Speaker 8 (32:57):
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nomination have been announced.
There are fourteen, So what happens is in late April
they will decide who actually gets inducted. But a whole
parlor of people's names get thrown into the rink, and
some unusual ones that I didn't.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Realize weren't even in there.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Mariah carries up Chubby Checker, Cindy Lauper, Outcast, the Black Crows, Oasis,
Billy Idle, Joe Cocker.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Wow, Joe Cocker.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
You think these people would have been in there? Yeah,
Chubby Checker. Anyway, Chubby must.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Have been nominated a few times, I reckon, so come
on putting him go? Was it was he? The twist?
Was Chubby? The twist twisted again? Was that Chubby?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Use one direction fans do not want to hear.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
A few weeks ago, rumor circulated that Harry, Zane, Nile
and Louis will be reuniting at the brit Awards in
honor of their late band Lampaigne. It has now been
officially announced that they won't be doing it. They're too
concerned that the attention will be placed on them and
not William's memory.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And they probably are not.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Even going Wow, They're not even going No.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I don't think so. Backstreet boy Friends. This is so exciting.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
They are doing a residency at the Sphere. They're only
doing nine shows in Vegas. They're calling it a residency
and it's going to happen from a Friday, July eleven
to Sunday, July twenty seventh this year.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I would love to go on.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
We never made it to the Sphere, but when we
were in Vegas for the for the Footy kickoff last year,
everyone was talking about the Sphere as being probably the
best place to show.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Photos of it.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah did you go inside? You didn't go inside? I
think there was you two? Yeah, you two were playing. Yeah,
apparently it's a brilliant place to watch. By the way,
I just checked it quickly that this is Chubby Checkers twist.
That's Chubby Wow.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Eventually not still alive.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Okay, how much money did Kendrick Lamar yes to perform
at the Super Bowl half time?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
So what happens is they have to be on the
Union scale of.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
The screen access Gilbert American Federation of Television and Radio
artist contrast, and they get paid a stock standard every
single one, every single year, one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah, he wouldn't even notice that he's not.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
And they pay, like Super Bowl pay for all the
dances and all that. So it's they pay for the production.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
But the artists for what he gave us.
Speaker 8 (35:41):
You've got a thousand bucks worth and Sam a scar
He who was I can never pronounce his last name,
the guy that was married to Britney's. Yes, yes, Scurry.
Yes he has spoken thank you to producer Todd h
And yes, so he has spoken about what it's like
to be married when he was married to.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
A pop star, I think.
Speaker 14 (36:04):
I think being in a relationship with someone that was
such an icon and was at the top of her
you know world. You're talking about someone that Taylor Swift
looks up to. And everybody else is looking up to
and she has a blueprint of what an actual pop
star could look like. Or the new pop stars right now,
whatever they are, they're not even close. Let me tell
(36:24):
you that performance wise. This is I'm a fan now
after being with her for seven months.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
You saw what it took.
Speaker 14 (36:30):
I saw what it took, and it's.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
No bolly together together. He's a fan. That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
That's kind of sweet though.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
You would want your partner to adore you to kind
of being your biggest fan.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, actually yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Think about that.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
Yes, if Tags was liking Reno more than you, I
think you'd have a.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Problem with It's a better place.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Could you imagine if you came home from work one
day though, and Tags was dancing around in a bikini
with two kitchen knocks.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
That's a bready day.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I don't know if this is going to work out
now with Coos the podcast, I just had a quick
look for Valentine's Day. By the way, if you're planning
something open air, there is a chance of rain Friday
night in particular, so just be prepared for that if
you if you're going over the top, is that what
(37:25):
he's doing.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
No, he's Okay.
Speaker 8 (37:26):
This is a producer, Maddie, and she was just telling
me as we were walking into the studio that her
partner has done something adorable and so easy.
Speaker 15 (37:36):
So I got an entry into the joint calendar from
my partner. So I get a little notification and it
said dinner of love for tomorrow night. And I clicked
on it and the comment said be ready by five
point thirty. Dress cute.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
That's a good idea. Yeah, okay, just a diary entry.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Just a diary entry.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
You have tried that preview a bit more, was a
bit more fun, and you were asking for sex, said
sex night amazing.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, so romantic.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, so get a word it better?
Speaker 13 (38:12):
Yeahs cute Yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
It's a good one.
Speaker 14 (38:17):
Yea.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
So sweet.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
So what are you two doing for Valentine's Day?
Speaker 5 (38:22):
I'll tell you tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Really, but you've got stuff, you have a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, oh wow. Okay, okay, Well I had layers as
because as we discussed that I need to have layers.
So my first layer was going to be she likes
this really up itself chocolate and she likes some you know,
it's not cabur it's some weird chocolate. I don't know
what it is. Yeah, you like weird up self chocolate,
(38:49):
better chocolate. Yeah, well that's what she likes. And so
and she was saying, yesterday, so I'm all out of
my chocolate, and I was saying, oh, this is perfect.
I'm going to get some chocolate Valentine's Day. And then
I went in the pantry yesterday and she went and
got yourself two boxes of it. Okay, so that's one layer.
That's take it out, But.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Does that fancy chocolate like, do it like a love her?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It's basically a block, but it's just an expensive block, so.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
You can't go buy like a better block.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Well there's there's my second option that I've seen. And
she sent this video to me about like a month ago.
There's a place in Brisbane that does pastry flowers. They're
like it's like it's like it's like a rose of
some sort, but it's made out of croissant. Great, and
so that's what I'm going to get on the morning
I'm going to go the show. I'm going to go
and get the pastry flower.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
You have you made sure that they're going to have
pastry flowers left, because we don't finish until.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Late after ten.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
No, I haven't done anything.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Okay, so this is watched.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I've watched the video.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Okay, so you need to ring them today.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Yes, and say that you need some flowers, and if
you really want to do it, maybe get them delivered here.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yes, I make sure we get.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
A Oubert's or someone to bring here.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yes, okay, yes, and the last four back plans. I
know that we have fifty single stem roses to give away,
Yes we do. Yeah, roses rose by any other swell
just to sweet dropping.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Badly.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
You need flowers? Yes, well, okay, you can give one
of your roses because Corey is the way roses. Yes,
you get some. You can get some different wrong getting Okay,
you are not.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Using promotional roses. I'm sorry.
Speaker 15 (40:34):
Plan one and two.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
First, okay, cho yeah up self chocolate, the pastry and
three three roses. I hope there's no.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Anything else that she needs.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
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