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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Robinie Kiff Now with Choreos the podcast Good Day.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's Robin Kipp Now Choreo It's on demand. Doctor Chris
Brown will have a proper chat to about halfway through
the podcast because we had him on the show today to.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Give me a definitive answer as to whether I should
let my dog go on live on a farm by
herself because she's a psychotic kelpie cattle cross, whether I
should keep her with her tribe of people within the
confines of my house because when she walks outside, it
all goes terribly wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
See, everything he said actually made a lot of sense
to me because obviously Snapper, he was like it was
a bit of a weird part. He was similar to mine,
if I'm honest, like, but just that was him, like
he was on his own. They said, that was always
him as a puppy, and even same now doesn't really
like other dogs, but.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Like Marlon, like he deals with Marlon.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
But Marlon's exactly like what he said, you know, chilled,
Like I said, a bonker go off and Marlon I'd be.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Like, oh, I'm sleeping. He's a good pair of good Yeah, good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Match, and even like what he said about Snapper, about
the Kelpies and like, you know, their brains are just
what's next? You know, we're a snapper. You walk outside,
he's banged on.
Speaker 7 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So yeah, I'm actually interested to see what happens over
the next a few months.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Well Chris has got some interesting advice and some products
as well that might might be the answer. So we'll
get to that halfway through the podcast.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Rowing now with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, big weekend for Queenslanders in sport. There's a lot
of milestone games. So we were just talking about the
lines before. You had Zorco with his three hundredth game.
Charlie Cameron is two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Oh was that yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Oh yeah, big games yeah than the lines.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Then at the Broncos was Ben Hunt with his three fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Fiftieth yeah wow, Yeah, Daily evens three fifty yeah, and
yeah Kobe Heatherington his hundredths.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
So and they all won, they all won. All the
Queenslanders that had their milestone games had a big win.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So Daily Cherry Evans is manly, manly.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, manly pump pump Dolphins.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Oh no one expected that, yeah no, and no one
get injured. Yes, right, so now we can see your milestones.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, yeah, I thought my starts would be great, and
they are. They're really good.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It's a it's a self sort of I don't know,
like achievement, you know, because it's not easy. You know.
For rugby league it's average fifty games for each player.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
So right, is that right?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So if you make more than fifty, you're kind of
doing okay, if.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You get the debut, if if you can get a start,
it's about fifty now it used to be thirty something
when I started.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, so it's still it's like two seasons, three seasons. Gender,
it's three seasons on average you actually are in a team.
So how many I got two hundred and sixteen or seven?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
I don't know, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But look yeah they started well, the miles starts a fifty,
got the fifty, you know, and we won. I'm pretty
sure it was down in Sydney against the Rabbit oh
I think. And I was on a young back then,
so they playing on the wing. True thing, good beautiful yeap.
And then I got three hundreds. I'm like, yeah, cool,
you know this was good? And was that like her?
(03:46):
And anyway, I was about twenty minutes in and took
a run and I did my big step that I have,
you know, one step. I was actually gone. I was off.
It was off a scrum. I was go on skis
now and touched me. Yeah, and then I just fell
over me. I tore my hate yeah, but not your
main not not the big one. I tore the one
underneath that goes like up three years. Yeah, just running,
(04:10):
just running, just I just changed the direction and took
off and I tore it like in two spots, which
never happens. And they said, don't know how that happened,
but yeah, and I didn't know. I got out played
the ball and try to keep playing. And I remember
like we did a kick chase straight after that and
I took off and went no and straight up the tunnel.
I went yeah, and they go is off off, like,
(04:32):
can you tell us next time? I said, I was
in that much pain?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Really, And so that's your hundredth Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That was the next day. I had my Bucks party.
Couldn't drink.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Ah, Well that I'm sitting changes the thing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
This girl anyway, so that was one hundredth and then
got one fifty like art Oble remember that. I don't
know if you remember that. Everyone thought I'd snap my leg.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Is that where that looked like your bone came out
of your thought and said, I remember that, But.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
In said I had a massive hole was a fifty
It was fifty five meal deep and it was like
the size of a fifty cent coin.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And because the bone came out of your leg and that's.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What it looked like, that's and all the commentators everyone
was just like, yeah, it's a comped, no idea.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I just I was in shock and it turned out
it was my own boot.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I still don't understand how your own boot got into
that the top of your leg.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So my foot like when I was going down, if
you watch the video when I was going down, you
see my thigh like just touch my other foot. But
as that happened, the tackler jumped come on top and
pushed my leg down and it's obviously just went bang
and just it's a massive because a massive crater.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, we're doing well so far.
Speaker 9 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
While I was in the hospital, it was funny enough.
It was in Sydney Public hospital. Yeah, they said, oh,
we've got to take your name off the door. I
was like, why, Oh, there's people getting around here.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
We don't know why.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Maybe we don't maybe they're looking for you. We had
no idea. It was weird while I was in there
for three days.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, they had to make it out like I wasn't here.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It was weird to go on a hiding.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah. It was during COVID, so it was weird.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Went Oh my goodness, any two hundredth injuries?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
No, I think I've got thrilling one, but I might
have I don't know. Money have dropped that, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So if you had a milestone that turned into a
nightmare thirty one, oh six, five? Maybe like a ten
year anniversary or thinking of.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
A wedding with gastro anything.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yes, when we got one, where was the big one?
I'd like to say, I've got I haven't made it
to any wedding, milester.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Just stay in one for a period of time.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
What's the five year one?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't know, kid, the paper I can't remember. I
should know.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
You should know.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, so that's that'll be my monster. But if you've
got one thirty one o six five.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Now podcast.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Corey was just talking about milestone games because there were
some big ones over the weekend. Ben Hunt, for example,
three hundred and fifty games amazing, and your milestone games
were generally met with.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Tragedy were awful.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That's why I stopped.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Winn an injury.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yes, so tell us about the milestone that went wrong
for you? Thirteen one six y five. Our producer Maddie's
in the studio. Hey, guys, what happened?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So my eighteenth birthday obviously a big one.
Speaker 10 (07:30):
I booked out this area of a bar for like
thirty people, expecting all my friends to sho up and
drink with me, and most of them got gastro or
the flu, or were out of town or couldn't make it.
So it was just me, my mom, and my dad
in a thirty person space celebrating.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
My That is really sad.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They were sick.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
Yeah, that was my first I.
Speaker 10 (07:56):
Was like, oh, I actually don't have anything, and my
mom was like no, no, no, like they're definitely sick.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
To do an investigation on that, I just wanted to
Donna Alex Hills, what was the milestone? Donna?
Speaker 11 (08:13):
It was my fiftieth birthday and I got a boucher
for accupunture and a massage. Very excited, went and had
it done first time for accupunture, and the pain was horrific.
I told the gentleman that put the needles in me
that it was really, really hurting me. He said it
was because I was really skinny, and just to bear
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with it for a fifteen minutes.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
No, it was.
Speaker 12 (08:38):
It was over.
Speaker 11 (08:39):
I went home. I don't even know how I drove
myself home, and I put it on Facebook because anyone
had accupuncture. I'm in pain. Everyone said, no, No, it's great,
it's great. Got to the point where I couldn't breathe.
He'd punched my lung.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh my goodness, Donna.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Two weeks in hospital on oxygen, I found out that
I was the second one he'd done it too. So yeah,
that was my fiftieth I know, we'll remember it forever.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
What a gift.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (09:10):
Yeah, Well it ended up I ended up getting the
car out of the payout.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Okay, this was my question, is this guy practicing anymore?
And the answer is no, he is y Absolutely.
Speaker 11 (09:25):
I wanted to stand outside his shot with a sign
there was a price to pay.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's terrible. Now, so I know this has been weighing
on your mind a lot, Robin, we spoke about it
just over a week ago.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, a little while back, I'm renovating and I've had
some friends come up and help me do some of
the renovation and one of them is from Adelaide. Her
name is Linda and she brought her partner Mark. Now,
I have two dogs, Maltese called Mali and who's a
complete princess, and Molly, who's a cattle kelpie cross. Now,
(10:08):
Molly is terrified of the world outside of our gates, cars, people, dogs, anything.
She is just beside herself. She's very attached to me,
but you know, she's a kelpie cattle cross. She needs
to be able to be walked and run and I
do that every single day, but it's super stressful for her.
So with my friend Linda and her partner markup. Mark
(10:30):
owns a farm in the Adelaide Hills and he suggested
that he could take Molly and let her become his
farm dog.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Because it was was Molly hanging out with him.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Loved him, and she doesn't usually like men. So the
fact that she found this guy that she really liked.
There's like a select group of people that'd be my
two sons, my partner Olivia, and now Mark. Everyone else
she just hates on site.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Okay, so what son doesn't she like?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, no, felt doesn't really have a change about to
do it as well, not overly concerned. So when we're
talking about this, I asked you guys for you your opinion,
because it's something that is not that uncommon, and you know,
people are really definite about what they thought I should do.
Speaker 12 (11:18):
They're our family, and they're our babies and we don't
want to lose them or anything like that. However, she's
a Kelpie cross and she's built for farm work, and
I reckon she'd be much more happier on the farm.
But I boil my eyes out when I gave her away.
Speaker 11 (11:33):
She's going to go to the farm.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
They're a working dog, they're not really a social dog,
and she would be much happier where she can just
run around and not have to stress.
Speaker 11 (11:45):
Maybe Molly would be best on the farm, but maybe
do it as a trial.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
See how she goes, see how she attaches and enjoys
the area. If she just falls back into a space again,
maybe it's not the right pit for her.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
It's pretty much a clean sweep.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It was.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Everyone were very very definite about it. So I took
all that on board, and three things have happened and
a decision has been made. Number one is that Linda,
who's my dear girlfriend, doesn't live with her partner Mark,
so I got really concerned that if I then gave
her to him, I wouldn't have any real access to
her in the same way that I would have if
(12:20):
it didn't work. That concerned me. Number Two, my particularly
my middle son Lwin, was listening and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Was so angry at the idea.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
At the idea, He's like, you do not mess with
a person and their dog.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Make all that.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And because my boys come and do house sitting for
me if I go up the coast, so they are
quite particularly the two youngest, Pipes and Lou are quite
attached to the puppies, and he was not having a
bar of it at all. So I would have a
very unhappy child. But the number one thing, and you
can possibly guess what I've decided to do, is I
(12:56):
spoke to a lot of people, and I spoke to
you know, dog behavioralists and stuff, and I think I'm
going to keep her and dog by all means thirteen
one oh six y five if you think this is
terribly wrong, but she would have been by herself on
the farm with Mark, and she's a herd dog and
Mally is her companion, like a pack dog, and I
(13:21):
just worry that maybe being alone would be worse than
not being able to be frightened of the world.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Are you one hundred percent? Is still open to advice
because I've organized somebody who would know for sure. Dr
Chris Brown, our friend and Vett, and he wants to
weigh in on this in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Are going to get another dog?
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Dog?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Dogs is not the answer. We got to work out
what we're going to do with Molly and I yeah,
let's see what doctor Chris Brown thinks.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So do you want me to say whatever he says?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Are you happy to go with his decision because knowing
that he is going to be completely impartial, is going
to do just what's right for the dog and not
worry about what's right for you with the kids and
blah blah blah, what dog?
Speaker 6 (14:11):
What's right for Molly?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay? Yeah, I think she ultimately has to be the
focus here.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Okay, but break my little heart.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'll give you. I'll give you a snapper for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Okay, that's the dog you like the least.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Can I have my dog don't want? Yeah, I'll give you.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Then maybe hearts for a bit, because all right, doctor
Chris Brown to weigh in and make the decision.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Next he now with Coos.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So Robin's been going through this dilemma with her Kelpie cross, Molly.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Who is scared of everything outside of our front gate.
So the world terrifies her, from people, to dogs, to cars.
And I live in a city, Brisbane, I live in Paddington,
so you know. And she's a Kelpie cattle cross. She
needs to be run and walked and I do that
every single day. But an offer came through from a
friend of mine's partner who lives on a farm in
the Adelaide Hills, and said I will take her and
(15:12):
she can have a great life as a farm dog.
But when I spoke to my sons, my two youngest,
who spend a lot of time with her, they were livid. Also,
I was concerned that my friend Linda and her partner
Mike don't live together, so if it I kind of
keep a check on it as much as I would want.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
How do you get that, old mate, Jesus doing well?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
We should talk about that an other times.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
It's interesting.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
So you're a couple that don't live together, about whatever,
not having well access.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But the main reason when I kind of is that
she is a pack animal and Marley, who's my shitsu,
is her best mate, and she won't be with other
dogs when she's on the farm, and she will have
a human, but she won't. I just feel like if
she's okay when she's within our fence walls, then surely
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the decision should be to keep her.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So that should be a safe space.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
So let's ask a professional.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
We have somebody who should be able to give us
the definitive answer, be impartial and just say what's going
to be best for Molly. So that is dtor Chris Brown,
who joins us.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Now, okay, mate, good good morning, Hey Robin, Hey Corey.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Are you really were you? And Brittie Cory said he
saw you?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Where were you?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
We're in Brisbane on the weekend.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
I may have had a sighting of Cory Oaks on
on Saturday myself.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
No, I saw you.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You didn't see me.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Where were you?
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Okay, it wasn't It wasn't as long for me as
it was for some other papers.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Really, someone someone was kicking it out wide.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Okay, all right, sidetracked, side track, Okay, back on, back
back to the matter at hand. Dr Chris Brown, So
you've heard, you've heard Robin's dilemma about Molly. I have
what what do you think.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Look been for starters?
Speaker 8 (17:04):
The fact that you're spending so much time going in
so many different directions with this decision? To me says
it's very it's a very good thing. I mean, kelpies
are there. They're tricky dogs. I've had kelpies most of
my life. They have an attention span that is measured
in sort of seconds.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
They and from what I saw on Saturday that certainly
backs up that series.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
He needed a leash, he needed some sort of some
sort of calming treat. Impossibly need to lie down at
some at some point, he needs to be rounded up himself.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
What about what about Robin's theory that like about being
a pack being used to having the other dogs around
or the other dog around and needing that.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Yeah, they're kind of like they're constantly in the jobs
queue a kelpie. They're always looking for work, they always
want a task, they need something to occupy their minds,
and they're so easily distracted. So by having another dog around,
you at least give them a bit of a partner
to entertain and to occupy them. So that's that's a
good thing. Having another dog around, I think for Molly
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is a really positive, positive step, and so I think
from that point of view, it's good. Obviously the idea
of a farm is appealing on face value, but what
dogs need and what they would swap every single toy,
every single possession they've ever had, and probably most of
their truths, not all, but they would swap all of that.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
For just more time with people. The dogs that love
being with people.
Speaker 8 (18:39):
And they need to be with people because it makes
them feel part of something, makes them feel part of
part of a team, and without the team environment that
they just feel a bit lost.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
And that's when their mind.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Starts to wander, and that's when they start to focus
on other things like the noise, or like the car
starting up down the road, or like.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
The dog walking past.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
If they feel like they've got their their little gang,
and then they're they're sort of part of something bigger
than just themselves.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
They immediately feel more relaxed. It's when they're by themselves.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
That they tend to really really struggle and start to
create extra extra work for themselves by you know, chasing
things they shouldn't or barking at things they don't need to.
So that's I mean, on a superficial level, I think
it's good for Molly to be around people, to be
around other dogs, and to be occupied if you're given
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the exercise on top of that, even better if you
if you're sort of managing and desensitizing or you fancy term,
but like counterconditioning against things she's reacting to, like loud
noises or like other dogs, and then you know you're
well on the way and you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Then so I should keep her.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
What are you thinking?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Well, I think I reckon there's probably merit in for
the time being. I think your approach is the right one.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I really do.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I think keep keeping her and keeping her in that
environment where where she's got that constant contact and constant
sure it's of you being around, or the kids being around,
or the other dog being there, that that that certainly
helps and and let's strike some things like I can
give you some extra ideas and things to try to
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manage any any anxiety or any stress.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
And if if if you just reached a dead end
and you.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Can't get any you can't get any more improvement, and
she's still struggling, then I think we look at rehoming.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
But I think on faith value, the fact that.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
We're even talking about how to how to make her
happy and how to how to keep her content, I
think is a really really good thing.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And just hang on, Doctor Kiss, We'll get to the news.
Let's record some stuff we can put on a separate podcast,
because I think this will help a whole lot of
other people. And what I will say is Kip and
I have learnt how to corral Corey over the last
eight months, So Molly should be super.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Dog one of tho little citronella colors that just.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
When he talks too much.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That'd be so good.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Back that with Dr Chris Brown. We've got to get
to news right after this. It's Robin and Kip now
with Correo's on Kiss ninety seven to.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Three now with Coos the podcast.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Halfway through the podcast and we're continuing our chat with
Dr Chris Brown.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Asking me a serious question. Yeah, about the other dog.
So you mean to say another dog obviously on the farm.
You know, for me as a kid growing up, we
had a lot of kelpies and college so they were
the same breeds. So that's how I said to you,
I think you might need to get another dog similar
like as in, your little dog is probably not enough
for Molly. You know, you might need another dog with
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the same energy. Just what do you think of that?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
It just it just depends because if you getting an
extra dog, it works sometimes. But what you can sometimes
find is you get a transference of one dog's anxiety
into the dog.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
The other dog just has to be a.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Really good benchmark where you want that dog to be.
The dog that's really kind of doesn't respond to loud noises.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I've got to give much because two skittish dogs will
make themselves more skittish.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Basically, they're almost a conversation just saying you've freaked out
by that term.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So what do you suggest, doctor Chris.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Brown in terms of other dogs?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Well, just in terms of other things to do?
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Yeah, so what's certain things that Molly's responding to?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
And and I guess overreacting to.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Oh everything outside the fence, other dogs, she gets really cars, people,
her tail goes right up between her legs and she
just freaks out.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
Yeah, okay, So I'm going to start off by the
best way to lower the anxiety sort of level. The
baseline anxiety level is exercise. So if you're doing that
in the morning early ish, I mean makes hard with
a requ.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
There you go, you know, some.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Sort of some sort of morning exercise just takes the
edge off them. And then and then they're going to
be less responsive to two different sounds.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Then around the around.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
The home, if you can play even some some music
at a at a at a low level, just have
have constant sort of some sort of white noise, blocks
out those little sounds that they think they hear and
they're not sure they hear, but they want to respond
to and they sort of blocks out the sounds you have.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Cards starting or or other dogs barking.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
So that that's a that's a good thing to do
from from the outset.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Leaving it like leaving.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
A TV on, is pretty basic, but it gives them
constant voices, gives them constant sounds, and and again it's
just that that form of stimulation that they become accustomed to.
You're just trying to create an environment where inside.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
She can get inside outside she's gonna.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Do you ever recommend prozac made like this or is that?
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Is that the last resort?
Speaker 7 (24:20):
It's about step number four or five.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Yeah, Like we do use it and and it does
it does work reasonably well. But I what I what
I can do? What I can send you some I
actually have my own pet brand. There's there's an amino
acid called LCNE which doesn't sedate them like pros that can.
Sometimes there's a I do a calming treat that that
actually works works pretty well, and you can give it
(24:45):
an hour before you need it.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
You can use them as often as you like.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
There's no cumulative effects, it doesn't interact with any other
medication or anything, and that that really works well to
just reduce that reactivity in them and just and generally
from from that, they're they're just more they're more calm.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
It kind of equips them with.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
What they need to not respond or over respond to
different things. And then and then you know, if you
can pick out specific things that are a problematic you
basically desensitize them to the sound so either positive association
by giving them a treat when they hear it, or
giving them some sort of reward here so you know,
(25:26):
like storms, so that they don't feel so terrified by them.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Or you can de sensit.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Oh you like countercondition where they basically played it at
low sound, at low volume, and then and then slowly
increase the sound and and and then they're like, Okay,
nothing bad happened at that low sound. So once it
gets louder, it's it's still not a problem. And they
tend to be okay with that. So there's a few
different things. But yeah, I can send you those treats
(25:52):
and also direct you to some articles and things like
that that that might help such.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
A wealth of in you so much.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's one more just reminded I was, I got to
I'm going to kelpie Collie Snapper and his back lays
are really bad. He can't get up hardly. He can run,
and he loves it, like you're right. Every day I
walk outside, he's like, here's my ball throat. But he
can't jump anymore. He can't, but he can run like
he can run. And it's when he stops and sits
(26:21):
he can't get.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Up like Chase the Ball a lot over over his life.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, he has, and it's and we go to the
vats and they go there's nothing. Really, it's just joint
joint pain they call it, like in inflorammation, and it's
just constant. The poor bastard, And yeah, we've got in this.
Does it token powder? I think it is at the moment,
or it's like this weird powder you get from one
of the stores. It stinks, but it seems like a
glue sort of power. It's like a light brown and
(26:50):
green color.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it's probably like an either an
a Mega three or a glue cosamine chondroy and sort
of joint supplement powder.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
They all help, like they all kind of help five
ten percent yea.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
But I would get him on fish oil like a
good Amiga.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Again, this is like turning into a big a big sales.
I do an Amiga thing. I'm releasing it about a
month or two and it's it's really good.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
But in the meantime, just just any sort of Amiga
Amiga three thing. And then there's there are these injections
you can get at the VET, which which you give.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Maybe once we've just.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Changed it from being once or once a week for
a month to two I think monthly now. So yeah,
so there are these injections and that they're pretty they're
pretty effective at pulling some of the inflammation and that's
sawn us out. But yeah, it's basically it's kind of
like an early on early sort of stage art writers
sort of thing. Whether the joints are inflaming, the cartilage
(27:54):
is sort of warmed worn down, and they're they're just
sore and.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
For hours.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
But we've got to fly.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
But thank you so much, so much.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Rowing now with Glorious.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I had a pretty good weekend with with the kids.
Although I want to talk about Sunday afternoon. This is
when so we'd had like we really have a couple
of good days and by Sunday afternoon but things things
started to turn because I because Naomi had to she
had to go and do some shopping and things like that,
and Sienna was already having a nap. This is just
(28:34):
just a over one year old, so she's having a nap.
She goes down for about two hours.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Oh that's good, it's good.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You can't sleep through the night. But wolf those days later.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, they are so handy and so so she is asleep,
and Raphael, the six year old, was tired. He'd had
a couple of later nights because he stayed up and
watched them footy with me. And he doesn't nap anymore,
but g should.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You want him to?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And he's tired. You can tell you're tired, you're emotional.
You just need to have a nap.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
And so he was playing with those magnets. You see
those magna blocks things and they can build things. Oh yeah, yeah,
So he built this really cool tower, but you know,
it's held it's plastic and makes it's very loosely held together.
And it fell apart, and he had a full meltdown
about the collapse.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And where is Dad in this process?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Just watching?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Well, see Dad first?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Is calm?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
Dad first?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, it's all hey, buddy, don't worry about it. It's magnets,
you know. Yeah, hey, listen and made it. Took you
twelve minutes to build it. We can start again. No,
there's proper meltdown. It's like it's tears, it's banging the floor.
And he's right next door to the sleeping baby. So
now Dad's starting to not be calm. Now Dad's going now, listen,
you shosh, you shush, don't worry about that. I don't
(29:47):
care about your stupid magnets.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
You wake up that baby, So Dad's escalator.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So Dad turnsad turned, so we now have too really angry.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
You got two stupid white man men boys?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Is it? Because yeah, that's you.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
He's so mean.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
So like if you're frustrated, people go, Okay, no it's not.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And the more frustrated he gets about that, the more
frush traded I am about him not being able to
get over it, until we're like just ready to just
kill each other, like we're so mad, and that Naomi's
not there to help us think to.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Maybe move the child away from the sleeping baby, like
there was no logic happening about now.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, but in my mind I was like, you, you
would need to be in your room. This is I
want you to stay in your room and calm down
and leave me alone for a minute so I can
calm down. But his room is right next to the baby,
and he can't calm down, so it's just this escalation
of and then he's like, I'm and then I'll leave
and go I'm scared, So it's just and I just think, oh, man,
(30:48):
how have I had? He's so much like me that
we just can't be together all the time. We can't
spend this much time together.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
How did resolve?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Naomi came home? Eventually she came homes and what's going
on here?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So you just kept it going so you actually wouldn't
leave either.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
No and I were like and somehow just like, what's
going on?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And why are you both in your underpants?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, that's a part of this joy? We didn't gain.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
What did you strip up?
Speaker 13 (31:20):
I don't He was come, It's supposed to be getting dressed,
and I was water blasting and I got my pants wet,
and they were just arguing in her like it just must.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Have like she went for one hour and the whole
the house fell apart.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Did that go for like this?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I know?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
I ended up saying, you mate, you're it took you
twelve minutes to build your magna blocks, your your blow
up lasted a full hour. We could have rebuilt five times.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And did the baby wake up?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
The baby slept through it? Wow, miracle, Thank goodness, absolute miracle.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Could you imagine trying to do with a baby and screaming?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I would have six years. I don't know what I
would have done.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
What would you have done?
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I left?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Possibly should have been your first doction, like maybe just
walk out, back out.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Slowly, let him go.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
One of my children was the one the trigger. And
I think everyone like, do you is Hucks yours? Your
three year old?
Speaker 11 (32:19):
Like?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Is there one kid that just so?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Because he's the most like you?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I just there were so many times where his dad,
Tony would say, Robyn, move away from the.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Giant, because you would, because you would build each other up, right,
things wo get worse and worse.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Just clash like badly. And now that I look at
him as an adult, I see him as my greatest
gift of things like patience and like. But the amount
of times I would just have to walk away and
leave him losing his mind because bad things would have happened.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yes, I can't help it laugh because it's just like
Montyan Hucks is me?
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Do I see Tagan arguing with either of them? Monty's
like and lose it?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I laugh?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
What's so funny? I'm like, it's just like you're arguing
with yourself. I'm like, and then Hucks, She'll go, don't
do it, Hucks, and he just goes, I'm to do it.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah, And I'm like, oh.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
My god, that's me.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Too.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm like, it doesn't irritate you, No.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
It does.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
And I'm like, but it's not me fighting.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm I can't help but laugh.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Thirteen one sixty five is our number. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Have you have you got a child that's you.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
That you're clashing in and you can't stare yourself and
it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Escalated to the point of no clothes? Yes, And I
don't even know.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
What that know what it was either. All I know
is that the house Fellow post.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Ring Kid Now with Colios podcast.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
We're just talking about times when you've if you've got
a kid that's just like you, or maybe you've got
a kid that's just like your partner and they clash.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh yeah, and I we want to hear year of
the moment that clashes happened and how did you resolve
At mel of Morningside what you got?
Speaker 14 (34:16):
So, my daughter's dad used to class with her so
so much because she was super sleuper smart, like very
very intelligent. She got a car of ninety eight point nine,
got into medicine. She's just very very smart and she
was smart from very very early on, tell your point
of my mother would say to her search my husband,
(34:41):
he said, I'm going to break and he said, you'll
never break her because she put out smarting with any
arguments he ever came up with. So one day kid
absolutely topped him off. He could not take a minute
more of her smart comments. So he said, that's it,
I'm taking the little girl. So I pack your bag.
(35:01):
So she packed your bag, said okay, see your mom
and I see that's right for it. It'd be okay.
So she goes and he dropped her off to this
house like this play back to nursing home.
Speaker 13 (35:13):
Now.
Speaker 14 (35:14):
What he what he didn't know was that she knew
it was a nursing home because every time they drove
past that, he would say to her, if you push
me one more time, I want to think of that.
The little girls go in a naughty right, she'd ask
me beforehand when I did the past her, hey mommy,
what does that take? I thought that's a nursing home.
So that did did just say anything to her dad.
So when he they dropped, he dropped her off. She
(35:34):
goes and he to go around the block to come back.
Knocked on the door. She's a nursing home and they're like,
what are you doing here here?
Speaker 11 (35:41):
Oh my, this is.
Speaker 14 (35:42):
It's a home for naughty girl. Oh, they said, right.
So she absolutely outsmart Hi when he came back to
his inside and he's like, oh my god, we're gone.
So he she absolutely she dropped.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
She dropped for cover because she's done a background checks.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Whatever stunt you're going to pull her.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
So disconcerting when your child is ten and you already
know they're smarter than you, couldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Stay and that having a fight with just intelligence. That's yeah,
I love it. Yeah, I'm not joining this conversation.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
For the One of Them.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Now podcast.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Thursday, we take to the stage to the catwalk for
the Brisbane Fashion Festival.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
And in honor of that, I thought I do a
little quiz this morning for some of the most famous
and luxury brands that there are in the world. Pretty
much all of them are European. So I'm going to
spell the word and you're going to have a try,
and then we're going to refer to my Belgian friends
speaking boyfriend to give you the.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Correct So we've got the recordings.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Of him humans and he will correct you. But you
may absolutely nail. All of them have started with one
that I think you will know. Yes, it is spelled
p O R s c h E.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
It is Cory. You go first.
Speaker 15 (37:20):
I think it's a Porsche, haven't no, another brand which
lots of people got it wrong. It's Porsche, basically the
you know Carmon manufacturer. It's German, of course, but that's
pronounce it that way.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yes, one for okay, it's.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
For this fashion brand g I V E n c.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
H Y given.
Speaker 15 (37:54):
Closed and you call it?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Are you taking a point to that? You get a point?
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Yeah? Did you did not like that?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So I can't pointed?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Let's try this one. H E R m E s.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Hermes.
Speaker 15 (38:19):
It's another French company and famous for the scarf. Obviously
that's actually the origin of Greek name. But it's called Hermes.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Where at the start?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Where's the rest of it?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I wasn't going to do this because I thought it
was easy. But this is the one Corey said it
was going to be the hardest. It's three words. First, y,
the second word s a i n T. Third word
l a U r a n T.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
First, I think I've got this, and then you'll you'll
know what it is there you go then if Laurent.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Laurent, were you going to I got no idea I
was going to vis Saint Laurent.
Speaker 15 (39:13):
If St. Laurent's boy for me.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Yeah, don't very knowing.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Can you just give yourself a point? Can replay that?
Let's let's get.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
One because I think you're both screw this up badly.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
H U b l O T who blow?
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Who blot?
Speaker 7 (39:33):
You blow?
Speaker 15 (39:33):
It's it's a Swiss brand, but obviously it's blood Swiss
brand with it's a watchmaker. They've been around for quite
sometimes quite renowned for the high end kind of blow.
People actually purchased the swatches and it's called you blo.
You don't pronounce the T.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
You said?
Speaker 6 (39:55):
You said?
Speaker 5 (39:56):
You said the tea that.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
On this.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
The ro Now podcast?
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Is it two weeks today? We got back from Vegas
there about yeah, yes, just thinking about it. And my
baggage went missing on the way from because we went Vegas,
San France, San fran to Brisbane and somewhere in the
middle there my bags. One of my bags went missing.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
But you didn't take it.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Probably, Let's just say that.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
I didn't take it. Probably, It's true. And so when
on the on the website for the airline, you could
go you can fill in some details. They said, well,
tell us what's in the bag. For two reasons. One
is because then if we open the bag, we'll go, oh,
that's yours. And second is chart find the bag, then
what you said is in there is what you'll get
back on it. So I had an interesting decision to
(40:55):
make whether I go, do I say what's in the
bag or what I wish was in the bag?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And fortunately I said what was in the bag because
they found it. So and it's in Brisbane this morning. Yeah,
and they're going to send it by over or something.
So it's arriving at the house today.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Because there were presents and stuff in there.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
There were presents, and I had a big, huge, one
of those huge American bottles of Captain Morgan and that
was the thing. They said, yeah, we've seen we've seen
your bag, Captain, so we're sending it. So yeah, so
it'll arrive today. I told the truth and it's worked out.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Nice, well well done.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, that's boring anyway. What I am excited if your
kid's presence fit them?
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, I've got a feeling and his feet looking a
lot bigger than I.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Remember, we'll see how we go ya and is his
president there?
Speaker 7 (41:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Remember I got heart the shoes the bag, Yeah, and
she hated them. Yeah, they're on marketplace. I'm selling those shoes.
I should never have even bothered.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Why would I buy gift for someone who how about
you just ask, follow through by the right thing, bring
it home.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I tried that. I still don't trouble.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Row Kid now with CoreOS the podcast.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Alex Warren right across the weekend played at the River Stage.
Probably could have played at the Gabber if the Lions
weren't there, Like you would have filled the gab There
was that many people that wanted tickets.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I sold out instantly and they had this lovely moment
where they put different light colors onto their phones so
he could see this like kind of rainbow of lights.
So if he was performing, it was really good.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
That would have been cool at the River Stage. So
we had we had Lauren come into the show on
Friday morning with her mum, Kim. Kim contacted us via
texto for oh nine ninety seven three nine seven three
and said that said her daughter was so upset she
tried to get tickets, she got scammed out of tickets,
spent one hundred and eighty bucks on tickets that didn't
even exist. So we brought her in to have a
(42:59):
chat about it.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Is there a reason like why you love Alex so much?
For me, I love certain songs just because of the
message they gives.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
That's the same for me.
Speaker 9 (43:07):
I think he's a great storyteller, only you know, very inspirational.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Well, we did our best. We're so sorry, guys, but
thank you for coming in.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
I'm joking, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
We're going to bring them all the way in.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Fact with this Hell was it?
Speaker 9 (43:26):
Oh my gosh, it was so incredible.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Why tell us why?
Speaker 9 (43:31):
It was just such a great night. The atmosphere was
absolutely incredible, and he is just the most incredible singer
in the entire world.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
So, you know a lot of gigs where people sort
of sing along, but it seems like for Alex Warren,
like the chorus is just the audience the entire show.
Speaker 9 (43:49):
Yes, he was quite sick, so he asks us to
all help us help him sing along because he wasn't
feeling the best. So we were all giving it our
best and screaming all the lyrics as much as we
could to help him out. But it's still such a
great night.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
I think we've got a little bit of it here.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
How good would you just have to say a word?
Speaker 7 (44:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (44:37):
They all go, yeah, a little pitchy if I'm honest, Lay.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Tell me about the light show because people were like
having different lights on their phone. It looked spectacular.
Speaker 9 (44:49):
Yeah, it was absolutely incredible. So everyone had a post
it note to stick on their light just to make
different colors in the audience.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 13 (44:59):
Okay, that's cool, so worth it, worth the effort again in.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
A heartbeat, Well you better be nice to your mum, Lauren.
If she hadn't made so much, this is never going
to happened.
Speaker 9 (45:15):
Yes, yes, thank you so much, guys. I really do
appreciate it. I had the best time ever.
Speaker 12 (45:21):
Thanks to you guys.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
And did you get the day off school today?
Speaker 7 (45:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I don't, so it would have just been dropped off night.
We're good.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
That would got up here with everything good on your
thanks you enjoy the week anyway.
Speaker 9 (45:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Ron Here now with COO Podcast