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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Robine Kids Now with choreos the podcast It's Robert and
Kipp Now a choreo. It's on Kiss ninety seven three.
If you've got a story to tell, something to get
off your chest, you can go to our website Kiss
ninety seven three dot com dot au and follow the
links to our Confessions for Cash give me as.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
With Robin, Kip and Coreotes.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
This is Confessions for Cash.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Sandy out of Springfield. You have a confession for cash
for us?

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I do.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Indeed, I'm a house payment and I took revenge on
a client by stinking up her house so badly that
you couldn't even sell it.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
So what was why did you have to take revenge?
What did this client do to you as a housepainter?

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Okay, so aside from not paying her invoice, I'm talking
it was six months after the date off the news
that she still hadn't paid her invoice. Prior to that,
the actual painting of the house, she had cats, so
I would have to clear each room and top to
bottom get the cat hair out, which was great fun.

(01:30):
As you can imagine. But every night she would put
them buggies back in the room that I'd painted each
room just I don't know if it was just to
be cruel or what. And yeah, so then she would
keep doing that, and I'm like, bude, you gotta like
house paints sticky.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Not right, I have fresh paint on the walls, and
now you got cat hair on the fresh walls.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
A job that should have taken a week and a
half to do ended up taking me a month, which
as a business owner you can't afford that, especially being
fresh out. You know. Yeah, it was pretty decent. It
was two story high set place. So yeah, it was

(02:13):
about twelve twelve and a half thousand.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Wow. Holy.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And so then you sent her the invoice and what happened?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
So then you always do your defects and I'll come
back nine times I went back to that house for defects,
something as small as you know, a boro, the tip
of a boro flood though, yeah, tiny little spot, yep.
And it's from her cat, always the cat.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
How many cats did she have? This lad?

Speaker 5 (02:41):
There was something like seven cats in that coun Oh
my goodness. And I was like, why did I do this?
I learned I learned my own lesson, though I did
learn a lesson to if they annoy me on quote
add more yea.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
More expensive, they don't want me.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
So she didn't pay six months.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Yeah, So I was invoicing her on a weekly basis
and trying to get hold of her and whatnot, because
you know, twelve and a half thousand dollars is quite
a lot of money. And I was reading the pay
off and her house was up for sail, and it
was opened the house inspection on the Saturday. So I thought,
I'm going to pop in and say it. So I
went in and I took three of my friends with me.

(03:22):
Didn't tell my friends what I was going to do,
but it took them with me to distract anyone else
that was in the house. And I, you know, the
top bit of a fan. Yeah, So I pulled them
down and I put the can of the little snack tuno,
opened a can of snacks there in it, and put
it in every room I could get to without someone

(03:42):
being just popped it back up, like can you know,
just cracked the can and put it up in there
on Saturdays.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Cat back on and then you shouldn't how many cans
I ended up using four and you don't get it downstairs.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
No, I'm pretty driven the that's three friends with me,
you know. And that's why I picked Tuna was because
of the ca Yeah, so I was like, I'll fix you.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Was it just to send the cats crazy or it
was just to make the house stink?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
It was just like literally the last pane call I
made to her was the day before her open him
months and she was just rude and obnoxious and she's like,
well after tomorrow, it's not like you going to know
where I am to get your money anyway. That just
cooked on a cake.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I was like, yeah, nah, So did you do you
know if it had any impact?

Speaker 8 (04:46):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (04:46):
So about six to eight months later, I was doing
a house on the same street and I was just
painting away. An old mate was on the phone to
whoever and he was saying about the house down the road.
The poor bugger couldn't sell the house because it stunk
so badly and they still can't find the sauce. Honestly,

(05:10):
you don't often get to see karma, but.

Speaker 9 (05:12):
Yeah, that day.

Speaker 10 (05:14):
Do you ever think it's sounding like an an anonymous
letter saying just check your.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
No, because that's like that's a mission of silk, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
And you know what, we don't know who you are,
We don't know where you live. Your name is fake,
your suburb is fake. And for that amazing confession, you
have just scored yourself five hundred bucks.

Speaker 10 (05:35):
What Yeah, it won't cover the twelve k.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
But no, no, but that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Thank you girl, Get on your sandy. If you've got
a confession to share, go to kiss ninety seven three
dot com dot au with our confessions for cash.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
It's not right though, it's not right that you It
isn't What do you mean?

Speaker 10 (05:59):
Well, you know you get someone to do work and
then not pay a bill, and then even how the
nervous say when I sell, you're not going to have
a find me.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I won't know where I am. That is just this.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Leg good ways you can go down without.

Speaker 10 (06:15):
You should pay your bills.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Hit pause on this passion. Thirteen one oh sixty five
is our number if you want to get involved. Was
that justified or did she go too far with that revenge?
We got a text to the show after that course.
I just try to fit a tuna can in there.
I can't get it to fit it was a snack
sized can, so like those tiny little round ones if coin, Yeah,

(06:38):
I do.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Love it's someone actually just.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
So much.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I've been thinking that too.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
So trade is revenge. Let's go. Have you've ever done
at thirteen one oh six fives our number?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Luke of Logan, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Hey going? I reckon she was in the me. I
would have went back with a bit of paint, super
and taking it all off.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Now what do you are? You a painter? Luke? Okay?
Have you been in that situation where people haven't paid?

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I have been in that situation plenty of times, more
with builders, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, infuriating. Yeah, so what would you do?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Go back and rip it all off, paint strip it?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
But wouldn't that take you even longer?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Like, that's not you've done paint tripper straight in the gun, mate,
you spray it all on and peel off within five minutes?

Speaker 2 (07:23):
OKAYO have you done that?

Speaker 6 (07:26):
No?

Speaker 11 (07:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I was close to.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Given her some thought. Do you think her actions were
We're too farther given that a cost their home made
probably hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Not at all, because you engage some underdoor service for you. Now,
if you can't afford that service. You shouldn't have got
it done.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Simple, So, Luke, how much?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
What's the most money you've been owed?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I've been at one point four mil?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh well what.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
And that was from a builder from Springfield Lakes.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
What so you did so you would have done you know,
a lot of a lot of homes already done.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I did fifteen display homes for him, and then another
nine homes and were supposed to get paid within my
ninety days and then he went into liquidation.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Oh man, Oh that happens too much building industry, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Well, yeah, let me go without yourself and keep your
boys paid and just keep keep shuggling on.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know how long ago is that, Luke?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
That's five year ago?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
And are you better now?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
One hundred percent? Still in the same business, same business name.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'll never fold.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
My ac company is K and Painters.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
K and C Painters.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, I need a house painter, so I will be
calling you.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh well, you can call me anytime.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Thank good his view, because otherwise it was going to
be me and Corey doing it. Then that was also
K and C Painters, keepping Cory nearly professional.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I'm just gonna have to charge you right, thanks? Thanks,
Oh good guys.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Thirty one six fives our number, train his revenge one
point four.

Speaker 10 (09:10):
It's a lot of hands.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Have you been a trade? Have you taken revenge? Thirty
one O sixty fives our number?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Kelly, you briby trade's revenge? What have you done?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Well?

Speaker 12 (09:19):
I'm actually not a trading. My mom put a revenge
on a trading. He didn't He was supposed to do
a long he didn't do it. She paid him up front.
Being a single mom, that was a big risk. And
she put sugar in his petrol tank in his truck
when he saw when we went out to get for
dinner with Chinese who you bought the sugar from the

(09:40):
Chinese shop.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Sugar from the Chinese shop, And that kills the engine,
doesn't it? Sugar? I think that's that's that's apparently.

Speaker 12 (09:47):
So that's something I learned that day that my mother
taught me.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Did you ever see the consequence of that revenge?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (09:55):
He couldn't drive his truck.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So you were there, you were watching, mate.

Speaker 12 (09:59):
My mother made us sit there and watch it.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Just one more around the spring rolls, please, she's just waiting.
I waited to see the.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Action and rather Dutton Park tradey what happened?

Speaker 13 (10:10):
Yeah, good morning guys. About twenty years ago I had
a landscape contracting business and we were doing work on
the Gold Coast for a builder's owner home and three
carps away through he went fast and owed me seventy
thousand dollars. We had already planted all the mature palms

(10:32):
and lawn and put in this fancy irrigation system. So
one of my boys, without me knowing, went back and
it has a reservoir for putting fertilizer in, so he
went back and he put in a few liters around us.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh so when the sprinklers went on and poisoned all
the players.

Speaker 13 (10:57):
It killed everything. And I'm told it actually killed in
the runoff because it just kept going because he adjusted
the time and so I just kept going. That killed
most of the neighbors stuff as well.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's so good.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Did you ever hear from him again, Rob?

Speaker 13 (11:15):
Oh no, No. We actually went to small claims to
try and get it, but by that time, you know,
he had rebirthed business and I'd moved on. I went
and drove a cab and started my career again because
he oh man.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, see that's why that's that's you pay your bills.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh Rob man a are you good now?

Speaker 13 (11:36):
Oh yeah, great, fantastic. I love gardening.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
It's Robin and Kip now with Coreo. It's on Kiss
ninety seven three. So this is a big trend on
on TikTok and it's floating around YouTube as well. At
the moment where people are blokes in particular calling their
friends to say good night. And this call involves Edge
here and you see on camera he's calling his good
mate Lewis Capaldi. This guy. They're very very close to

(12:04):
these two.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, they're great and Lewis Capaldi has certainly had his
own issues recently, so I have have Edge hearing in
your corner would be a really good thing.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
So this is just a nice good night call. Hello mate,
I'm just calling to wish you good night.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Good night, maker, good good night. Are you good? Name
my special cat? What are you doing? I'm just kind
of just chilling off my coat right now? And what
are you wearing? Just the usual? Come on, come on
a little bokys on it, you know, just hanging out.

Speaker 14 (12:34):
I just want to let you know that you're you
loved and and care for.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
I'll think about you and I've got to set tonight.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'll think about you right now, just before I go
to sleep, and then whilst I'm asleep.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Love you, love you, my love hang loose.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
What really sweet?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
But what's strange about that is that I just that
it's even a thing because we do that all the time. Call.
That was just normal. I got know MEI to fill me.
This could have been any night, but this was this
is last night. I think, Oh, sorry that I wake
you out?

Speaker 9 (13:09):
Good?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Oh wow, yeah it's terrible. You haven't been to the
doctor yet. Oh you might need to. Yeah, you ready
for tomorrow?

Speaker 15 (13:23):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Just just work mate.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I just wanted to know, just wake up and make
a material.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah yeah, I just want to say, you know, good night.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
I'm thinking of you.

Speaker 15 (13:34):
Thank you, good night.

Speaker 16 (13:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Definstitute dreams, Well yeah, I hope I'm in them.

Speaker 15 (13:42):
Yeah, No, I love you, love you.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's that's.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
It's so aw. The only question I was waiting for
was so.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
What are you wearing? What are you wearing? That was
going to come. It's Robin Kipnritor.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Confessions for Cash.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
We had Sammy from Rochdale who was so brave her
confession was that she'd never told anyone apart from her
best friend, the real reason for her divorce. And it
turns out that her husband of fifteen years had a
completely separate family children of the same age with the
same names, because in a fight, he'd yelled at her

(14:40):
that they had to name their youngest name he wanted
because otherwise he wouldn't remember it.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
That was just next level gross that that element, like
just to be that I don't understand that man at all,
how that works that you can rationalize.

Speaker 10 (14:55):
That age, same name, and then to walk back in
and just think it was all good.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, So she busted him on Facebook, went and kind
of confronted him, and then he came back into her
place and was like, what's wrong, where's my stuff?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
She's like, it's burnt, it's outside. I'm not normally a
fan of people burning other people's things, but it's complete respect.
Like he's just that is fine, That's an absolutely fine reaction.
The one thing that we're disagreeing on is that she
has then said she hasn't. She just told us. We
were the first people other than her best friend that
she'd ever told, so she broadcast it and has still

(15:33):
not told the children, And she said because she didn't
want to ruin his reputation or blow up his reputation
in their eyes, which I understand because I just said, well,
I don't see how, Yeah, how does it benefit the
kids to destroy their father because he.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Is not a person he has done behavior that will
impact their life moving forward. The thing I think I
struggle with this the most, and I am so respectful
of Sammy, like and I will tell you that after
I got her phone number and I rang her because
I was so concerned about her, and I we talked
about her getting counseling sessions and that sort of stuff,

(16:13):
and I wasn't trying to convince her of my opinion.
But in my world and with my experience, what I
will say is be age appropriate, but be honest, because
if your kids can't trust you to tell them the truth,
and you've already got one parent who is.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Obviously an habitual liar.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Who do they trust when they find out? Because the
other thing with Sammy is that they lived a couple
of suburbs away and her eldest children were playing sport
against each other. This is Brisbane, man, It's not six
degrees of separation.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
It's two, it's going to come out. I agree, but
I just don't. I feel like if she's trying to
protect the kids by keeping by, I don't understand. How
are they going to feel better knowing that their dad's
a pig.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's how you tell them it's not safe.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
You can't sugarcoat that's not you can't.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But also then and a bage appropriate, Like she was
saying that she was pregnant when she found out, So
she's got a little one, right, so you know that's
saying to a little one and I don't know how old,
but you're not going to tell them.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But if there are older kids.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Then how is it protecting someone who clearly has a
different moral compass to you?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And what are you protecting them from life?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Their life is going to be Potentially this guy has
not behaved well.

Speaker 10 (17:30):
I think, Yeah, I believe we were sort of similar
last week, but just really thinking about it, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
You jumped.

Speaker 10 (17:41):
It's just more like the age, Like she's going to
find out and she's going to have emotions, and.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
We don't know how old are the elder we don't
know how old the kids are.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I mean, yeah, obviously age matters it's.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Going to happen.

Speaker 10 (17:52):
But yeah, I think you want to tell them, and
the best way to do that is if they do
it together, because you can't do it separately because how
are you going to trust him? Yes, if they ever
see him again, like to actually be honest about what happened.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
And then they get in two sides of it, Like
Jen out of Bourbngary any one six, I said number
if you want to get involved with your thoughts, Jen.

Speaker 17 (18:13):
I think it depends on the circumstances. However, in this one,
I think she's doing the right thing. At the end
of the day, he doesn't see them. If, like in
my if I was in this situation and my kids
came to me and said, like, what's happened with Dad?
Then yeah, definitely I would open up. But yeah, again,
age matters, the situation matters. But I think she's doing

(18:36):
the right thing.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
She'd tell us that. In an extended chat Sammy, she
did say that surely I'm not a part of their lives.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
If you want to hear the whole thing, then I
highly recommend you go to our podcast because everything is
there if you've missed it. If he just tell me this,
Jen in your mind. If they then want to have
contact with him, do you tell them then?

Speaker 17 (18:57):
I think you sit down, like I would approach him
and be like, we need to be honest with them.
We need to tell the kids what happened and then
sit down with them. But until that happens, and my
opinion is he's never ever going to come back and
want to see them. If the kids want to see him,
then you know, reach out and whatever.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
But I like the idea of him having to tell them.

Speaker 17 (19:19):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely would put it on him. He's
the one that messed up. He's the one that has
been a douchebag and an absolute pee So I think
it needs to be on him to tell them and
not mum.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
But you kind of want to be there. How do
you trust a lie to tell the truth.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
That's the way he reacted when he came back.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Trust Yeah, yeah, thank you thirty one oh sixty fives
out of number. If you want to get involved, what
do you think did she Is she doing the right
thing by protecting the kids? Inverted comments like quotationous is
she protecting the kids or is this the wrong kind
of protection?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
I'm trying not no, no, no, I look absolutely, everyone's
opinion is totally valid. I just guess, what are you
protecting them from?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
This is life.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Life can suck, and if you don't give them the
tools to deal with their situation as young adult, how's
that going to change when they become real adults.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
But we protect our kids all the time from the news.
For example, I don't show Raffi the news because I
don't want him to know how much life sucks.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I know, but he's five. Yeah, but I'm not saying
you'd tell a five year old this. I'm saying the
age appropriate, But be honest, what would it five year olds?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Like?

Speaker 6 (20:28):
No?

Speaker 9 (20:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Raf could never no.

Speaker 10 (20:31):
But that'd be asking anyway.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Would that's what we think?

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Confessions for Cash. We got an incredible story from Sammy.

Speaker 16 (20:40):
Through my Facebook stalking found out that he had a
whole other family. Wow, Sammy with three kids with this
woman and their names were the same as my kid's name.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
What, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 9 (20:55):
She'd posted an ad on Facebook saying that they had
a family event and they wanted someone to come and
stay with mum. I responded. It was very, very confronting
to walk in and see pictures of him with his kids,
on the wall that mirrored what was on my walls.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
You've only told your friend and now asked what about
your kids.

Speaker 9 (21:16):
No, I haven't told them.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
They don't know about the other family.

Speaker 9 (21:19):
It's not up to me to tell them and to
destroy him in their eyes.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Now, that thought process from Sammy made complete sense to me,
the idea of not destroying him for their benefit. Like,
but you certainly disagree with that, Rob, I do.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And I mean, you know, all of our experiences are different,
and we know we can't stop talking about this.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Cheering songs during ad breaks everything. I will say.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
In my world, when I was under immense pressure when
my kid's father suicided from his family to tell them
that he died of a heart attack, and I rang
his counselor and I said, tell me what to do,
and he said, be age appropriate.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
But be honest.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
And certainly, in the ten years since that happened, and
as my children got older and more yucky things went down,
my kids knew that even in the world worst moments
of their lives, I would tell them the truth.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It's yes, that's a great fair argument. It's a fair argument.
I only know from my perspective, having broken up and
having rap, you know, being three and four going why
aren't why aren't you together with mum? And there's times
there's weak moments that I have that I'm like angry
and I want to go it's because this and this
and this, But I go, oh, you know, it just
didn't work out. You try and make it's you know,

(22:36):
you don't want to in any way diminish her in
his eyes.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
No, but that's a different scenario because no one behaved
as appallingly as what Sammy's ex has done Like that
is a betrayal on every level. You guys, it didn't
work out. It was a marriage breakdown. Yeah, you're being
honest and you're being age appropriate.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, he was next level pig. This bloke was just
it's hard to get around. Emily out of Thornlands. What
are your thoughts on this telling keeping the secret from
the kids?

Speaker 11 (23:07):
Yeah, I don't agree on keeping the fact that they've
got three other siblings from the kid. I don't see
how that is in the child's best interest. I think
the focus of your conversation is what he's done. We
all get it as adults.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
That he's a peak.

Speaker 11 (23:24):
Yep, let's move past that. That doesn't help children. The
fact that she can understand that he's a pig because
he's behaves like this. She's an adult, so she can
understand that. Children don't understand that at their age. What
they do understand is when they have another sibling come
into the world. They are not living in a different state.

(23:48):
They're not thousands or hundreds of kilometers away from each other.
They are living in such close proximity that they are
playing school sports together. Come on, could you imagine being
that child versing your siblings years later? Like the bullying?

Speaker 8 (24:08):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (24:10):
I can't that the kid's best interest not to know
when we all know it's likely to come out.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Thank you, Emily. Let's talk to Steve of Labrador. What
do you think.

Speaker 18 (24:23):
Definitely child's age appropriate when they should know whatnot. I'm
listening that they're playing sport, so I assume they're a
little bit older to me. If I would be saying
to Sam, it's like, give him the ultimatum. You need
to tell your kids a truth, give him a time frame,
let him explain to what he's done to his own

(24:44):
let's say, his first family.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, because this is the other thing we should say.
And this has come up on our text line for
a nine nine seven three nine seven three, what's happened
to the other family, Like, potentially there's a whole other
group of kids and we don't know anything about them.
Neither did Sammy, and perhaps they need they don't know either. Well, yeah,
Candy of Ripley, what do.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
You think I think she should absolutely tell the kids
if they're eight years or above, tell them she shouldn't
paint him out to be this nice guy when he's
an absolute monster, Like the kids will understand like why
should he get away with it? I'm ropable utias.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
You know from personal experience though, don't you, Candy?

Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yeah, Well, my kids were nine, eleven and fourteen, and
the year that their dad left me, I told them.
I told them everything, and he painted me out to
be the liar. But the kids have chosen to stay
on my side and have barely anything to do with him.
And that's not out of spite. That's just me telling
them the truth.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
And what was the truth?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Was it based on some like a big lie like
this or was it like cheating?

Speaker 8 (25:54):
Well, yeah, he cheated on me but denied it and
made me out to be the bad person. But yeah, no,
the kids should definitely know, they say, should start now
to understand and be able to ask the questions and
her best be able to answer them now. And he
shouldn't even be given the opportunity to paint her out
to be the bad guy and all of this. He
just needs to stay away out of it.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (26:16):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more because the ages would be
pretty similar. I reckon like nine to eleven.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
And something like that as a young one. But then
if you tell the older one, how do you keep
the secret from the younger one until they're ready? Because
the older ones older siblings, they love telling a story
of the kids, the other kids, but.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Also their siblings, and they have their own relationship and
they will talk a lot amongst themselves.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Exactly. Yeah, I love this.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Keep is trying to work out if he's changing his mind,
and Corey is just agreeing with everyone because you're so nice.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah. I mean that because it's a really valid opinion
from that, But I still understand why Sam's Sam's mindset
is like, does this help my kids to think that
their dad's a monster?

Speaker 10 (26:52):
I did, but it's just at the time it's probably right,
But down the track. It's not and that's that's why
I'm now in that opinion.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Now you switched. It's on my line over.

Speaker 12 (27:02):
Here with Robin Kip and Corey Oats.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yes, we'd like to do this. Take a magic moment
from film, have a little crack of ourselves including song.

Speaker 19 (27:19):
Well, hello, I am in from the newsroom. I will narrate,
and we have Kit being Genie as a bee.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Of course, Sory will be Aladdin.

Speaker 19 (27:27):
And Robin, of course is Princess Jasmine. So to set
the scene, Aladdin and Jasmine are standing on the balcony
with Jeanie disguised as a tiny bee buzzing in Aladdin's ear.
Aladdin is trying to convince the princess that he is
a real prince and is worthy of her love.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Princess Jasmine, you're very minderful, magnificent, glorious, punctual, punctual, punctual, sorry, beautiful,
nice recovery. Hmm.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I'm rich too, you know, the daughter of a sultan.
I know, A fine prize for any prince to marry.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
All right, right, A prince like me, warning warning, all right,
a prince like.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
You and every other stuffed shirt swaggering peacock I've met.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Just go jump off the balcony.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
What stop her? Stop her? You want me to sting her?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Buzz off?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, fine, but remember be yourself? Yeah right?

Speaker 19 (28:27):
What huh?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
You're right. You aren't just some prize to be won.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
You should be free to make your own choice.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I'll go now.

Speaker 19 (28:37):
Aladden jumps from the balcony and lands on his magic carpets.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
No what what?

Speaker 6 (28:43):
How?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
How are you doing that?

Speaker 10 (28:46):
It's magic copper, it's lovely you. Uh you don't want
to go for a ride, do you? We could get
out of the palace, see the world.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Is it safe?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Sure, dude? Trust me.

Speaker 19 (28:58):
Jasmine looks up at Aladdin and she begins to recognize
him as the four street ratch she met in the marketplace.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
What do you trust me?

Speaker 19 (29:07):
Jasmine takes to Laddin's hand, gets on the magic carp
and of course they immediately stop singing.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
I can show you the world.

Speaker 14 (29:24):
Shine and shimmer and splain and tell me, princess, now,
when did you last let your heart design?

Speaker 20 (29:36):
I can open your eyes, take you wander by warmer,
over sideways an under on a magic coppy ride.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Alon you.

Speaker 14 (29:54):
A new fantastic point of view?

Speaker 20 (29:58):
No one to tell us nowhere to or say where
only in dreaming?

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, but when away it's crystal clear.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
And now I'm in a whole new.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
World with you, Oh new world.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
That's where we will be.

Speaker 14 (30:33):
A streaming childress.

Speaker 18 (30:36):
Place for you.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Rob, You've been longed to assess. And you can see that.
What the hell?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I used to be in a kid's choir for years,
but then I got throat nodules answer and took out
my middle range right, so I cannot sing middle range.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Time go low.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
It's because I had this operation and they get nodules
on the vocal cords, so anything in the middle range
I can't do right, which is most songs.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Okay, So we just got to find all high right Now,
they want to talk about times that you had to
talk to your kids. Happened? Well, little Sienna's got she's
been she's been sick over the over last week. So Nami,
it's funny how mums know, because she was she had
a bit of a cold and arm said I'm going

(31:49):
to take the doctor. I said, he you reckon, she's
mine's just a cold. Takes it to the doctor, sure enough, Yeah,
it's serious. She's got tonsilitis and she needs to go
on antibiotics. And then the next day she came out
in this huge rash on her face and hands and legs,
handfoot and mouth, probably although the doctor, so we had
to go back to the doctor. The doctor didn't necessary

(32:10):
really confirm that, but said it could be the antibiotics
and that she's a reaction to that, so we've got
to change it. But she's got like her face is
like raw, like it's rough to touch around her mouth.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
It's not like boils on her hands and feet.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Not kind of yeah, they're a little bit like boils,
but there's none on her feet. No, no, no, So
it's weird. But anyway, there's there's a lot. There's a
lot going on, and she's got an eye infection, just
to add right, So she doesn't speak English, it's not yet,
so trying to explain it, no know Inglass, So trying
to explain to her, hey, we need to give you
all this stuff, and she just thinks we're hurting her

(32:48):
on purpose. And so Naomi, we'll be in tears and
I have to go, Okay, this is dad's job. And
so I get her on the floor. I'm sitting on
the floor. I get her arms under my legs and
her head in between my legs where I can lock
her head in place and then drop and Naomi helps
me and will put eye drops in her eyes while
she screams. And then we while her mouth is open screaming,

(33:09):
we go squirret in the young four meals of antibiotics
and then they cough, and then we squirt in four
meals of new Offen or two and a half meals
in Europin. And then she sits there looking at me, like,
why do you hate me? You're screaming?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
And how many times do you do that?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Four times a day all weekend? You cruel mes. It's
the worst. And she as far as my baby is concerned,
I like she sees me and and she goes, Okay,
it's coming. The torch is coming.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Is that what was happening?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
By the end of Saturday, she's going get away from it.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Make her and she's like pushing me away because she's like,
I know what's happening here. I know what you're about
to do, but you have to torture your baby.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah it sucks, you know what It's like?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
What did you do? Ah?

Speaker 10 (33:59):
Well, okay, so Muddy start loads teeth and the first
time was really wobbing.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I said, just keep wobbling it, keep wobbling it.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
And then in the shower it was like about full
left and I'm like, here, brush your teeth really hard
to dirty.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, bang bang.

Speaker 10 (34:13):
It pretty much comes out.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
So I just had to pull it out.

Speaker 10 (34:15):
For the first of the way, it wasn't bad. Second
one recently saw for ages and no one else.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Would touch it.

Speaker 10 (34:22):
The tooth Mody's tooth, and then Mody's eating. Then the
other night she goes, it's so salting, you pull it out,
and I'm like, ma, that's not very loose, and it
could well it was, but the whole front skin was
still stuck. I'm like, you that much pain. She was crying,
like looking at me with tears. I'm like, okay, So
I'm just trying to pull it out and it wouldn't pull.

(34:43):
Are you talking about with pliers with I just grabbed
paper towel. Yeah, So I had to crack the skin.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
So I went hurt.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
She was just so bag she screamed, started bleeding and
then she goes, it's gone. She goes, I'm like, yeah,
she's all good.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
So she hated me for a second hucks it. On
the other hand, he had this toe for ages like
it was dead. It came off like fully, yeah, he's
big toe, and it didn't fully come off, so a
little bit was still stuck and it's been there for weeks.
And he kicked it on his scooter and I'm like,
wear shoes anyway, like which was just stuck on the

(35:22):
edge of the skin, but a little rest of it,
and I'm like, I've got to cut it. So he
was like, well, can you do it.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
I'm worries, I'll.

Speaker 10 (35:28):
Do it all good and and he was screaming and
I m down.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (35:32):
I just grabbed his foot really hard and I just
started cutting and I ended up there was a little
bit of the skin still stuck to the nail. So
I'm like, okay, amazing, he's crying. He hates me already.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I just do it going.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
You're not supposed to do that.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
You're supposed to take down tonels.

Speaker 10 (35:48):
Hard for weeks and it's not nothing. It's just it's
just slowly dying and it's starting to get really bad.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
When he moved around, did you get him with the scissors?

Speaker 10 (35:55):
Yeah, him as well, because he kept moving. I said, man,
you keep moving, I'm going to just hold you. And
he wouldn't stop.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
So I just held him and then.

Speaker 10 (36:07):
Not again the first time I did, but he would do.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
You love the justification, like, yeah, we are going to
absolutely brutalize you kids.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
It is for your best and it needs to happen.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yes, but I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then everyone loves
mama and yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well someone's got to be bad, yes.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
And then we were with the bad cops see.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
About Yes, I just assumed it was a given in
You know, all of our kids have parties. It was
the staple of almost every weekend for my boys. They'd
be invited to someone's birthday party every week. Yeah, oh
my goodness, yes, sometimes two or three. Yeah, like, and
you divide and conquers so that the kids could get

(36:52):
to these parties, and Kip you would be the same.

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
We've had the last two weekends, we've had Sienna's you know,
her friends. I mean, she doesn't know any of them
because she's not even she's not even one yet, but
they're all having one year old birthday parties. We've had
to go to those. And what Raffi's coming up? I
went to the last one with Siena. Yeah, and there
and talk to all the blokes. Yeah, and they know
there was music. We sat down and the kids all
did songs and played drums and probably.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
No, you don't even divide and concuer. You go together
most of the time.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yeah, know me to go to one without me, but yeah,
normally I go together. We go together. Why Cory, why
are you getting so mad?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
How many have you done?

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah, I can't. I can't keep counting to be honest,
is it true, Cory, that you is a true that
you don't go to any of your kids birthday parties
and you make always busy.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
You wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
What have you got on tomorrow's moen and yard work? Yeah?
To the races, she looks after this.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
Booked in before the birthday card invitation.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
That doesn't bother me so much, because I think at
times everyone has stuff one time, like I.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Say, you divide and conquer.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Do it as a checks and balances so that the
kids are prioritized and the parents don't have to do
all of them. Except from what I'm hearing in the
Oats household, where you don't do any kid's birthday party?

Speaker 10 (38:23):
Well, it's just so previously I was always playing right,
I was, I wasn't always here.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Here, and then when you were, when I'm here, I'm busy.
Why you want to do it?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Just somehow always works out that.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You don't want to do it.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Why I got to look after her?

Speaker 17 (38:44):
Take on me?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
So tell take Monty and then you look after hats
who's going to when you go.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
To the races, you're not looking after harks sometimes the post.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Have you ever been to a kid's birthday party?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Have you ever put your hand up as a parent
and said, I'll do this one?

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
No, man, Well I didn't get the invite because you
don't answer your emails Jesus, And I said yes, and
I'll be like, I've gotta check me calendar. Can I
tell you too that I don't like my birthday to
be honest, but it's not about you. I never like

(39:24):
south given taging a day.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Or it's giving taken some time. So you.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
Before she goes, she goes, I know you really don't
want to go. I'm like, I know, thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
So in that six years that has been on this planet.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I've probably been to.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Never on your own, I don't think so Okay, can
I just have the grandparents been called in rather than
you do it?

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I think taking them? I don't think I was busy either.
We found Tom's Confectionery have brought out this little packet
of jelly beans that are hot, so they say Fiery

(40:17):
five challenge. They have different colors and different versions of hot.
So it starts at Ferracha, the chili sauce that it
goes up to jalapino, then Kanne then have a Niro
and the hottest one is the Carolina Reapers. That's what
we're eating. Probably they are insane, and so in order
to get us to take these, we thought we'd have
a little game of truth or Spice. So truth or Spice,

(40:48):
So we're going to each ask each other questions and
you can either answer the question truthfully or you can
just choose to have a jelly bean.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
First.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I'll kick off with a question for you, Robin, And
you're difficult because you answer everything and I like the
high things. How about this when you went on a
break with Olivier? Yes, did you turn any of your
dating apps back on?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Heart broken?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
The other question? Okay, can I ask you the other question?
The other question Okay, well you know what to do now.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay, Corey, what how much do you really spend on bedding?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Oh you're both on the same path, and prove.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
It by opening.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
The beans. Where are the beans? He's got the jelly beans?
Okay's boat done it? Okay, orange can't be hot. You
wouldn't think. So where's that box? No, I just have
the origin. I'll tell you have it, and I'll tell
you what it is. Okay, your orange is gone in.
You've gone for. It's not the hottest one. You've gone

(41:57):
the habit arrow. Oh my god, it's the second oldest.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Can we just take a moment. He dies, let's willing
to answer the question?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
You got all right? He's tricking water. Okay, that's bad.
The other one okay, you've.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Got no account.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Talk. Can you talk?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Can you take the truth?

Speaker 6 (42:28):
Boy left over?

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Give me the beans?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
No fun watching you die?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Have this red one on.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
Other questions?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Give us the truth.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
This is the Carolina Reaper. That's a jelly bean that
was surprisingly hot.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Okay, well this is I should have kept my worst
questions for the last, because now you won't have another one.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
I had a question for Gorey go on again. It's
on the same thing. Have you ever hidden gambling? And so?
How much ever been?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Are you sure you want to have another one?

Speaker 3 (43:26):
You gotta have a red one this time. I'm still.

Speaker 10 (43:34):
Before I go on, If you get this wrong, you're
gonna have to mate spell pterodactyl correctly.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Okay, that's not a truth. Is not a truth. That
is question dyslexic, but that that is not a truth.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Truth.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
You can ask me questions about me and I will answer.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I am not doing that.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Have you ever been nauseous? And if so, spell nauseous?
Have you haven't been? Robin? Come on? If you can't answer,
your must have been?

Speaker 10 (44:09):
Can you truy the only way it's by using my dyslexia?

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yes, yes, never been.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You two are asked his question first.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Okay, can are you actively trying to have another baby?

Speaker 3 (44:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
No, no, So all those eggs that are waiting, they're.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Just sitting in the fridge right now doing it. Not actively?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
You can ever have another that's a second question.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
That's a follow up. Right again, have an orange? I
have an orange? Have you had your second one? To finished?

Speaker 6 (44:52):
So?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Are these like? Are there nice ones in here? No?

Speaker 3 (44:56):
No, you're not. You're not feeling the heat. What the hell?
What the hell at Okay, imagine it was just Robin
playing this game. She tells the truth and she doesn't
find the beans. Mean, while we're dying, I'm literally dying.

(45:21):
I'm sweating from my eyes.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Are we done?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
We're done? From the right on Marlow were Cory, there's
a lot of time to think about questions that have
no answers. That sounds a bit like my ma at
the moment, thirteen one sixty five to our number. If
you've got a thought that you want to share. But

(45:46):
Corey's going to get the ball rolling with the.

Speaker 10 (45:48):
Foot Well, shorts and long.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Shorts in pants? Yeah? Pants?

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
So why were they called shorts because they're short shorts?
Are short shorts? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (45:59):
Why are they just called lungs?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Why aren't pants lungs? There's no, there's no like that.
They're not called longsh No, you're right.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
That no point in my life if ever someone walk
into a store and say can I have.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Some long take me to the longs section? Like you know,
you're right, there should be longs.

Speaker 6 (46:16):
Wait, what's the word for long sleeve shirt?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Hey? A long sleeve shirt? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, okay, but you don't have long pants.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Yes. Actually, I've got a question. I saw this across
the weekend. Someone asked this, and this is it's a
similar it's a similar question. Why why can you drink
or drink but you can't food food? Yeah, you got
to eat it.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
You drink a drink, you drink eat food food food food.
What are you guys doing just food? Just food around
We're just going out for food.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
You would say, I'm just drinking.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yes, but you're eating food yeah, eating food? Yeah, but
you are eating, Like, what are you eating?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I'm just eating.

Speaker 10 (47:03):
The other thing is when you go in and say,
can have some long pants. They just called pants, but
they're long.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Oh dear, you're doubling down on the long.

Speaker 10 (47:13):
Yeah, I really am, because I've been in trouble for
calling long pants when they just call it pants.

Speaker 16 (47:18):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Someone's getting upset with you being so technical.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
But I'm like, that's what they are.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
But you don't say long short long shorts. Save me
from this. Thirteen.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
If you ever feeling from the Morrow, just a random thought.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah, thoughts from the right on.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
Mar the cor.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Corey has a lot of time to think on the
right or mower, and it comes up with some thoughts
and sing. Yes you like to sing? Allowed to?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
You're always always country.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yes, people will past, they'd probably belting it out. But
what are your thoughts? You have thirteen one oh six
fives our numbers, So tim a binjer.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
PILLI what's your thoughts from about? How are we good?

Speaker 15 (48:05):
So?

Speaker 21 (48:05):
I one one of the meaning behind the pot of
gold at the end of the rainbow from a leptcorn
and has anyone absolutely trying to reach the end of
the rainbow before?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Well you can't, can you, because it's an optical loose Yes.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, so close you get to it the further away again.

Speaker 10 (48:22):
There's never an end.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I do remember one weekend where I was so bored
with the children, I thought that.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
That was a good idea.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
We'll go and chase one.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
We went driving around chasing the end of the rainbow. Yes,
and the amount of rubbish you can tell the kids
about what's actually happening and what is extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Right because you can look in the distance. Go tell
our friends at west End it's there because you can
see it. So then you go and you're like, where
to go forger Yes, we did that.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
We did that for hours.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
And the leprecorns. I don't know where the leprecorns got involved.
Him to the question, it's a fair question.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Andrew of Murray, what's your thought from Amoa?

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Yes, the door slightly opened, it's a jar. But if
you put it on a jar, does it become a door?

Speaker 8 (49:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
My goodness, my head. There's another one on the text
nine seven three. If you say you are doing nothing,
how do you do nothing?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
How do you do nothing?

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yes, fair question is another one.

Speaker 13 (49:28):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (49:28):
Can a revolving door ever be shut.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Shut, as in stopped.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Shut, shut, shut a revolving door.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
No, you can stop a revolving door. You can't shut.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Shut revolving door.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Then it's just wow.
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