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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Robin and Kid Now with CoreOS the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We've been talking about this TV show Adolescence, and it's
the number one show on Netflix pretty much around the world.
And yesterday I spoke about it. I got pretty emotional,
and the Courier Mail printed a story and it's not
that I was misquoted at all, but it looked pretty
bad for my dad.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It always looks worse on print, it really.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Does, yes, So I wanted to call him and talk
to him about it. So we've got mum and dad
on the line now. Now they hadn't seen the show Adolescence.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
A nutshell, Paul and Silvia. It's about a thirteen year
old boy who murders a fourteen year old girl and
that happens really quickly in the first episode, and then
the next three episodes are unpacking where the responsibility lies.
Is it with social media? Is it with the school? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Blame?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was very heavy and after watching the final episode,
I was talking about it yes today, This is a
little bit of what I was saying yesterday. After watching
the episode. I was crying a lot. Me know me,
hug me, and she's like, you're not your dad. I
do get mad. The same way, like he, you know,
infuriates me, and I've thrown something against a wall like
(01:13):
I saw my dad do, which I always remember. I
always remember him throwing a coffee cup. I definitely got
my temper from my dad. I'm so afraid of giving
it to Rough. I'm so afraid that I'm gonna that
he's going to see me rage out and then think.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It's as normal.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So look, first of all, I just wanted to say
some of the things I said yesterday. I think when
I read them in the Courier email, it made it
seem very negative on you, and I just wanted to
point out that you were a great dad.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You were a very.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Loving dad, and that you never hit us when we
didn't deserve it, really, because you're just doing what parents
did in the eighties and nineties. You smacked us when
we were naughty, and that was normal. You weren't a drinker.
It's not like you came home raging and did that.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
But there were.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There were times that you lost your temper, and I
have inherited that and I'm desperately trying not to pass
it on to Raphael. But I don't think I'm out
of line in saying that that you wish if there's
one thing you wish you never gave me, it's that, right,
I think so, Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Paul, can I ask you what do you feel when
you hear that?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Oh? A lot of remorse, really, you know. And and
when cyclone Paul's that's my code name.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, And it was like a cyclone. It didn't come often,
but it was a cyclone when it came.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It might be one once every once every year, Yeah,
but it was usually over an event. And yeah, I
certainly didn't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And you would go and like a cyclone, you would
be the cleanup afterwards. You would be in a depressed
for a couple of days after you'd had a big episode,
wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, I'd stay away from you all and and go
and work in the garden.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I remember that. I do. I remember that, and I
remember I guess it's just the strange thing is, who
knows what part of it is just in us genetically
because Luke, my little brother, he doesn't have he doesn't
have any hyper temper, does he?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
No, absolutely not, no, whereas your sister does.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, maybe had you mellowed you reckon by the time
Luke came around, you'd give it up.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well, I let him get away with murder. Yeah that
was not good either.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, but Paul, you must be proud of your son,
like keep in front of me here right now, because
he's actively trying to learn the lessons that you learned
that you know to not then pass it on to Rafi.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Absolutely, And and I don't think Graph will. I think
graph is a far more controlled person. I think he's
going to be falling.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, well I haven't.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Seen him get I haven't seen him get angry. And
if he was going to get angry, he would have
seen it already. He's five now, Yep, he doesn't. He
doesn't get angry. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think with your thing too, kid was I definitely
thought this was with you know, the anger and the outbursts.
All the stuff that kids can see these days is
a lot more than what we could watch them and
look up and it's.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like TV and TV you're going to go on and everywhere.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
You know, people losing, you know, it's run around with
knives and all these like all these things that's another
added thing to to that outburst. And they're like, oh,
well that's how they defend themselves, and you know why
can't I I think that for me is why I
think we're so now conscious about the anger and the outburston,
(05:08):
trying not to let them, like our kids, understand that's
not the way.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Paul, Can I just say you're amazing and you've raised
an amazing son who is also raising an amazing son
because you're willing to talk about it. Man, you just took.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Our phone call.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You're willing to hear some stuff that most parents just
would not address, that feeling of shame and guilt. And
you've not only done it and said it to your
son so that he can change the pattern for his son,
but you've said it so a whole lot of other
people can hear it. And Man, I honor you, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Who love that They think that we would just have
a conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That's with all three of us, just Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's because they have all their conversations as a team.
Now you can't call them. They always put John speaker.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
It was so low for you when I started in
the creamil yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
No need to worry, no need to worry.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Everything's fine,
Robin and Kid Now with CoreOS the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
We've been talking about this TV show Adolescence, and it's
the number one show on Netflix pretty much around the world.
And yesterday I spoke about it. I got pretty emotional,
and the Courier Mail printed a story and it's not
that I was misquoted at all, but it looked pretty
bad for my dad.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It always looks worse on print, it really.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Does, yes, So I wanted to call him and talk
to him about it. So we've got mum and dad
on the line now. Now they hadn't seen the show Adolescence.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
A nutshell, Paul and Silvia. It's about a thirteen year
old boy who murders a fourteen year old girl and
that happens really quickly in the first episode, and then
the next three episodes are unpacking where the responsibility lies.
Is it with social media? Is it with the school? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Blame?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It was very heavy and after watching the final episode,
I was talking about it yes today, This is a
little bit of what I was saying yesterday. After watching
the episode. I was crying a lot. Me know me,
hug me, and she's like, you're not your dad. I
do get mad. The same way, like he, you know,
infuriates me, and I've thrown something against a wall like
(01:13):
I saw my dad do, which I always remember. I
always remember him throwing a coffee cup. I definitely got
my temper from my dad. I'm so afraid of giving
it to Rough. I'm so afraid that I'm gonna that
he's going to see me rage out and then think.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It's as normal.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So look, first of all, I just wanted to say
some of the things I said yesterday. I think when
I read them in the Courier email, it made it
seem very negative on you, and I just wanted to
point out that you were a great dad.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You were a very.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Loving dad, and that you never hit us when we
didn't deserve it, really, because you're just doing what parents
did in the eighties and nineties. You smacked us when
we were naughty, and that was normal. You weren't a drinker.
It's not like you came home raging and did that.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
But there were.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There were times that you lost your temper, and I
have inherited that and I'm desperately trying not to pass
it on to Raphael. But I don't think I'm out
of line in saying that that you wish if there's
one thing you wish you never gave me, it's that, right,
I think so, Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Paul, can I ask you what do you feel when
you hear that?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Oh? A lot of remorse, really, you know. And and
when cyclone Paul's that's my code name.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, And it was like a cyclone. It didn't come often,
but it was a cyclone when it came.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
It might be one once every once every year, Yeah,
but it was usually over an event. And yeah, I
certainly didn't like it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And you would go and like a cyclone, you would
be the cleanup afterwards. You would be in a depressed
for a couple of days after you'd had a big episode,
wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, I'd stay away from you all and and go
and work in the garden.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I remember that. I do. I remember that, and I
remember I guess it's just the strange thing is, who
knows what part of it is just in us genetically
because Luke, my little brother, he doesn't have he doesn't
have any hyper temper, does he?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
No, absolutely not, no, whereas your sister does.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, maybe had you mellowed you reckon by the time
Luke came around, you'd give it up.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Well, I let him get away with murder. Yeah that
was not good either.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, but Paul, you must be proud of your son,
like keep in front of me here right now, because
he's actively trying to learn the lessons that you learned
that you know to not then pass it on to Rafi.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Absolutely, And and I don't think Graph will. I think
graph is a far more controlled person. I think he's
going to be falling.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, well I haven't.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Seen him get I haven't seen him get angry. And
if he was going to get angry, he would have
seen it already. He's five now, Yep, he doesn't. He
doesn't get angry. It's really good.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I think with your thing too, kid was I definitely
thought this was with you know, the anger and the outbursts.
All the stuff that kids can see these days is
a lot more than what we could watch them and
look up and it's.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like TV and TV you're going to go on and everywhere.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
You know, people losing, you know, it's run around with
knives and all these like all these things that's another
added thing to to that outburst. And they're like, oh,
well that's how they defend themselves, and you know why
can't I I think that for me is why I
think we're so now conscious about the anger and the outburston,
(05:08):
trying not to let them, like our kids, understand that's
not the way.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Paul, Can I just say you're amazing and you've raised
an amazing son who is also raising an amazing son
because you're willing to talk about it. Man, you just took.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Our phone call.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You're willing to hear some stuff that most parents just
would not address, that feeling of shame and guilt. And
you've not only done it and said it to your
son so that he can change the pattern for his son,
but you've said it so a whole lot of other
people can hear it. And Man, I honor you, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Who love that They think that we would just have
a conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That's with all three of us, just Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's because they have all their conversations as a team.
Now you can't call them. They always put John speaker.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
It was so low for you when I started in
the creamil yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
No need to worry, no need to worry.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Everything's fine,
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