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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I heard podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the free heart app. That's the Yeah Taylor
Swift Special podcast. Alana welcome, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is my dream to chat Taylor Swift with you
because I know that you so don't want to.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No, not really, not really, So life of a show Girl.
How long has it been out for now? This album?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's been three ish four days okay, Friday afternoon, our time, Australia.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And how many times have you listened to it? I
don't even know, like countless.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I have listened to the album in full maybe three
or four times, but specific songs I've just been on repeat.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Right. Yeah, So we're going to go through blow by
blow and have a little listen to to like each
song and sort of discuss.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Which is great like a book.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, but it's good because.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You've got a swift ye and I've got i'd like
to say, I try not to have a bias, and
then we've got someone who's just, you know, the anti
of everything. So it's a good balance.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yes, I've got a positive negativity about everything and I
love that. So the first single and this one's already
you know, breaking records for streaming and stuff. The Fate
of Aphelia. Now, before we play a bit Ophelia. This
is something from Hamlet.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, so Aphelia is a character in Hamlet, the main
who went mad. Yeah. The main theory about or the
link with the song is that Taylor Swift says that
she kind of thought I was going to suffer the
fate of a Felia, you know, just going mad by love,
never picking the right one and just kind of being
doomed to that. And she's found love and she's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
To call on the megaphone. You want to see me.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Pumped up kicks.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's got a nice Featpio.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You let the mad Gosh, you never call.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Me I'm a drowning.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Calling a swarmer. Loyalty to me rather violent?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
By God, You're just.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
See all.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Great from the sea.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
This mot is a TikTok dance.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Now already happy, I'm already.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Coligeous. See you're five.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So this is all So this is a bit of
a love song for for Travis, like You've saved me
from the fate of Ophelia. Is that what we're getting?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So, I would say when you boil it down, most
of this album is about Likelse. Yeah, it's it's it's
like a love story to him, or it's where she's
at in life. Yeah, so you know she writes from
her experience. She always has miss this is just.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What do you think of that song that? What do
you think it has that right on the album?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I love that one. It's high for me. I would
say it eight and a half to night. It was
a grower. I remember listening to it at first thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, it's fine, it hasn't grown on me yet.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's a grower. Well, you need to listen to it
another night.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Nine more times is the key that? Okay, now track two,
let's play a bit of the track first and then
discuss Track two is Elizabeth Taylor. It's called.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Do you think it's.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That of Porto Fino was on Mamma And when you
call Me at the Plaza at tonoon.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It doesn't feel so glamorous to be me? All alright, guys,
promise on the right light with away, but you was
on the line.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Was so good Taylor.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, it's actually getting a bit more catchy second time
around or third time round that song. Yeah, so Elizabeth
Taylor is that This is what I'm guessing because I
know nothing about them. Is that was that a code
word that Kelsey used to check into hotel rooms or something?
Was that his name?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wouldn't know because is that code for him?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No Taylor or no?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well your thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think it's more again that life of a show
Girl theme, right that really only the first couple of
songs for me actually have anything to do with the theme,
and then the last one and the rest are kind
of just other songs. Elizabeth Taylor is like the show girl, right.
I watched any interview of Taylor saying about how what
would she do if the rug was kind of pulled
(05:14):
out from under her and she kind of lost everything?
And that's what this song was kind of about. She's
like add cry my eyes out first of all, and
that's kind of the first line of the chorus.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, if you ever said, if you letters ever say goodbye?
And crime is yeah, So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Kind of about like wanting to hold on to it,
but also yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And poor Afino, that's a nice that's a place in Italy.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I don't know, that's out of my bounds.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Like somewhere nice. It sounds like we're very fancy.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I've not cultured enough.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Italy. I think it's before you go to.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Was she somewhere she does have? She was saying that
she's got this big catalog, like a note in her
notes app of just random words, places and phrases. So
when she has a songwriting session, she just goes and
scrolls through and kind of whatever will fit, yes, sucks inspirations,
she'll pop it into maybe. Yeah, Okay, she got confused
with her bucket list, trable bucket list.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
This is it on the way to Capri to Naples
and board a fiend. I don't know anyway. Okay, so
that's that's the second track. That's about Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, well, I don't know. I think that's more about Herbert.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, it's now Opolite is the third one. This song,
this track here, I think is is filler open Liepe?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
How dare you what? You think it's good? How dare
you listen to this?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
I am single?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is my favorite line.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Brothers eating out of the trash, I never going back to.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
His boyfriend eating out the trash is going back to
ex boyfriends.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
That's all the go o, the fun I've seen it before.
They'll see it again.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Life.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
This song it ends one and.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Oh it's next night.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The sky is an operlight, open life, blight, man made Opal.
Oh look, the meaning is brightness. Yeah, the meaning of
it is is it looks like Opal, but it's man made.
And she's like, sometimes you actually just have to make
your own happiness, Like my happiness is man made, and
it's it's you know, she's she has a connection with Opal.
(07:55):
It's her mum and her favorite stone. And then it's
also Travis Kelsey's birthstone. So there's a lot of tying
into it. But if we're just talking about the vibe
of this song, yes, you can't say that that's not
going to be in on the background of whatever you're doing,
whether you're insulating a house, just doing something.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But I think that is one point. Though it's background music.
I don't think it's.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's not it's yes, it's cheery background music.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, maybe you're yeah, Okay, So this next one,
Father Figure. So this is track four, Father Figure.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have a little listening moodium.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, I'm wondering whether this is about like found you,
like a record rep or something.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're right, I'll.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Look to you in the Jack and Joe racks and
to go rope, you do the chateau. You are money of.
Speaker 10 (08:48):
Me, I saw, I'll be far vegan that WELLGA can
make deals big Jacks begar, this is your move. Just
step into my office and disst.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Leave it with me. So is that about what's his name? Scooter?
You reckon? I don't be about old mate Scoot.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I listened to this song and it just like, I
don't know, meaning one over my head. But I've seen
a lot of other people are theorizing that it's about
her very very original record label person kind of helped
build her up. Well really she built his record label up.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There wasn't much yeah, okay much on his record label,
and then he didn't sell her music got sold somewhere
else and anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But she got swindled by, didn't she.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What was interesting is I saw the album release in
cinemas and basically it was a little video of her
sitting at the chair saying, this is what this song
is about, and then she played the song, this is
what this song is about, played the song. She didn't
really mention anyone by name other than her mum, but
she actually said this song is more about herself, and
sometimes she feels like the father figure. Sometimes she feels like.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Does she need it? Did she need a father figure?
Is her dad?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's a big fan. In fact, I'm pretty sure he
runs a fan. I'm not joking. Tailor Nation, that's him.
But yeah, sorry, Look Taylor said it's more about her,
but I think fans are kind of saying, well, she's
pulling from other things again, nice jazzy music, you're sitting
vibing out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's not a hip for But next drag is eldest daughter.
It's called she plays piano, doesn't she?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What doesn't she do?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Everybody is so punk on the everyone's on farther too
yor not. Every joke's just trolling and memes sad as
it seems. Berdy is hot. Everybody's cut throat in the corners.
Every single heartache is cold as those. When you found me,
I said I was persy.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That was a lie.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I have been afflicted by a terminal unique news. I've
been dying just from trying to seem cool. But I'm
not the.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Badest and this is insad, But I'm never gonna let you.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm never gonna leave you. As so many.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Trade smooth bads, but I'm never gonna break that bough.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm never gonna leave you.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Bad.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So who's she in this song?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The eldest Daughter? Is she the oldest daughter in Yeah,
this one is a bit of a miss for me
only because like her fifth song on every album is
kind of the pull at your heart strings, you know,
summon a feeling out of the listener kind of song, right,
and this for me, I don't know, it was just
(12:19):
a bit of a mess, and I think a lot
of the lyrics are just kind of very simple.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes, like she's amazing, she taps him. Well at the
start there they're talking about, you know, all the all
the trolls online and stuff. You go, yeah, that's very
that's you know, that's that's on point for all the
kids listening and stuff. But then it's sort of, what's
the oldest daughter think about? She's the oldest daughter, and
she's well, it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
About like all the extra pressure that you put on yourself.
I think that's my taking anyway. But yeah, it's just
I think it's like it was going to be emotional
and it's a little bit of a I don't know,
it's a miss for me, but I wouldn't skip it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, but that's you. But the next track, okay, so
we can talk about this is called ruin the Friendship,
and it takes a bit of a turn about halfway
through because the schoolboy that I think she's talking about,
the schoolboy friend from way back in, from way back
in the day, ends up dying. And that's that's the
term for me. I wasn't expecting that bit. All of
(13:11):
a sudden, she's going back for the sun, yeah, to say, yeah,
let's have a listen. This is ruined the friendship. I
think that I like the bib of this.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I do too, and you just don't expect it. I think, yeah,
it kind of catches you off.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Guarden, Yeah got that based on.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Listen name Grass from September, Ray Graylver passible of me.
You just.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
In ba Galentin wrote in.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
The exact beach watching the game from your brother's cheek,
you're my.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
My boy, and then.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
A little should have kiss you anyway, should kiss you
anyway in the last night.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Conting should have.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Kissed you.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Don't know. He's a real g this bloke.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
She did have a friend from high school that passed away,
But I would say that there's a lot of experiences
that have shaped this song because she, again Taylor was
very not explicit in who this was about, and also said,
you know, as much as I say, like, oh, I
(14:43):
should have kissed you anyway, She's like, if I made
any different decisions, I might not be where I am.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, exactly. Do you have one of those from high school?
Do you have some bloke that you think I should
have passed on that bloke?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But when I went to the one direction concept, probably
my biggest life regret is I was really close to
the front of the stage and I thought I could
have just jumped up. But I know I probably would
have been banned from the venue forever.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
But I was.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was jumpable, I was jumping. I thought I could
make that touched. I have a dance. Well, that's the thing, dance.
I would never But I sometimes think, I'm like, you know,
I was fourteen at the time. They probably would have
just put me a slap on the wrist and say
don't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it.
I didn't do it, But sometimes I think, what if
what if I just jumped up and had.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A dance I had this girl. Her name was Janelle,
and she was in year She was in year eleven
and I was in year ten, and we went to
Japan like on a you know, like the whole not
the whole like because we started Japanese. She was in
the year above and a bunch of kids from school
went and we billeted and stuff with there for three weeks. Anyway,
so I had a massive crush on her at the end,
(15:47):
like during Japan, like I was like, this girls, she's
just amazing. But she was older than me, and I
was like, I've got no shot, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Then, okay, just quickly not a teacher, No, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, she's only a year old. And it sat together
on the bus and stuff when we go places. I
was like, oh man, this girl, she's amazed, but I've
got nothing. Anyway, I saw her years and years later
and I said to her, I said, and we were
both married by then, and I said, you know, when
I was in Japan, I had the biggest crush on you.
I thought you were just amazing. Yeah what she said,
(16:16):
she goes, you idiot. I was waiting for you to
try something and you never did. Kip.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh my gosh, what could have been? So I would
have been different, but maybe not for the better.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, probably not, probably not.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Got a beautiful little family, so everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's fine. Yeah, no regrets. So onto actually romantic? Now
this is what are we on the track? Wait?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Preamblet don claim and I'm convinced that this could be
a disc track about Charlie XCX.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh now what's his story with her?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Her?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So Charlie XCX was story. Charlie XX is married to
someone in the nineteen seventy five and someone else that
was in the nineteen seventy five is matter? Heally he
was dating Taylor Swift, so they saw each other a lot. Anyway.
Charlie XCX made a song last year, Many Thoughts, was
about Taylor Swift and basically said, you know, in the industry,
(17:11):
I meant to be friends with all these people, but
you know, they kind of make me doubt myself sometimes.
I don't want to see you at the backstage at
my boyfriend's show. I don't want to see you everywhere. Yes,
that was kind of the vibe. I would say it
was very mild. Yes, and then people think that this
is a direct yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Because it sounds like somebody who's trolling your online who
is Yeah, it's called actually romantic.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I heard you call me boring Barbi when you're out
feeling brain.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I've had my ex and then you said you're glad.
He goes steady, olled me a song sing and.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It makes you sick to see meur face. Some people
might be a fan, but it's actually sweet. All the
time you've spent on me, it's honestly world. Oh the
effort you've put it, it's actually.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Belly God to.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Love me like you do, because it's like when someone
gets obsessed with you, hating you, it's like that they
almost it's almost romantic, how much time and effort they
put into Well.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, and we'll never know what goes on behind closed doors.
But to me, I hear that, and I think there
are too many similarities for it not to be true.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's got to be about Charlie x e X. Okay.
Next one is wish List with a couple of dollar
signs to replace the s's for wish list.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Stylistically, we love that a bit of flats like Kesher.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Kesher is a till sign.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
A couple of them around have a dollar sign no no.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't think Snoop Snoop was around before that. People
did that. But this is a bit a wish list.
This is very romantic, isn't it. This is another love
song to Travis.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It is they want that yacht life under chopper blades.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
They want those bright lights and Balanci shades and a
fast act with the baby face. They want it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Oh, they want that complex female character.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They want that credital smash pond or and an oscar
on their bathroom floor.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
They want it. Oh, and they should have what they want.
They deserve what they want. Hope they get what they want.
I just want you.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
A couple of kids, get the life.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Wait till the birthday, got leave a slong they do Wow,
then they turn another job away with the basketball.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I got to say. She does those little those little
lyrics that Taylor does, like got me dreaming of a
driveway with a basketball hoop. It does paint a picture
because you were instantly get that's a family, and it's
like she's you know, I've got to pay kudos.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's interesting because I wonder, is this the first time
she's explicitly referenced like wanting to have kids with her partner,
because I don't really recall her doing that. Yeah, and
it's like, yeah, how would that even happen? Is she
going to do that with her life the most famous
person in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, and she sort of talks about everyone's got the
world's got to leave us alone. So then they'll go
off into some sort of compound.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Another Yeah, another vibe, the one I would say this
is just sitting somewhere in the middle for me.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah, okay for wish list. Now moving on to Wood. Now,
this is the most controversial song of the album.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh my favorite.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You like this one.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I love the vibe of it. It is the biggest
bop the album.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well it starts off with the Jackson Jackson five but ABC,
Oh it's not exactly, but it's close enough.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Is third was distract Pani's did she did?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
She say panties on?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Penny is unlucky, pennies unlucky. It's all it's like little
like luck and superstition.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Okay, called Okay, it's the third time heard. I thought
it was panties on. Every time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You go.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
About something, it's good.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
None word.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Never did any God I got over it's under sign.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I wonder how many sort of famous older songs are
referenced in this, because there's a lot, isn't there on
Wood Dancing in.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The Dark, or there's lots of layers, And I think
that's what's interesting. The longer you look at literally anything
Taylor Swift does, the more meanings you'll find because she
just packs it with all these little tiny well they
call them easter eggs. It's just for people that unpack
and she's.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Doing it on purpose or people reading. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, she just is such an over planner. Yeah, and
she just packs all the all the stuff in I
think just base value if you're not looking at the lyrics.
This is just such a bop.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, and this is probably my favorite favorite.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
But it's hard because I think a lot of people
don't find the meaning very palatable. I'm just someone who can.
You know, it can be a really sad song, but
if it sounds like this, I'm bopping around.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And is wood as much of a phallic reference as
I'm thinking it is, I'm not reading too much.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is innuendo okay?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And there's a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Sounds opened my eyes?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Blood would.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Love was the key that forgive me?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It sounds copy my eyes would hard his love was
the key that opes.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So it's it's had thighs at some stage it is it's.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Sensor because in the original these are like they're they're
all p G words, but in the context it is
very risky. So she's changed like very simple words like
thighs armatized, which I don't you know, I don't even
know to hypnotize, just so you can't even pretend to
draw any meaning.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's like, what's armatized?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Are you going to have to google it?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, you're not going to tell me? Should I know
what armatized?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Dinized by someone's no? Like like like u h like.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like yeah, alright, I'm gonna look at that while we
play a little bit of the next one canceled. I
like this one by the Bay. I think this should
be the.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Single that it would be.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Oh okay, at first the situation could be saved, of course,
but they'd already picked up your Gray and hers.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Beware the wrath of mass crusades. Did your girl boss
too close to the sun? Did they catch you having
far too much fun?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Come when meet?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
When they see us, they run something wicked this way?
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Come stood, I like my friends canceled. I like con
Clinton punching and then scanceer like my whiskey, sour and poison.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
Sorry flowers, welcome till my underworld where it gets quite
dark at least you know exactly your friends.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I like that it's canceled. Yeah, And what's her friend
that's kind of being canceled?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, Blake Lively, there's a lot in the media about
are they friends? Are they not anymore? Because they were
really close friends?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Did she drop her after she got controversial? You reckon
to Taylor dropp her?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
This is what I think, as you know, and my
bias might be showing, is that I think that maybe
she's just stepped back on more. Something else would have
had to happen, because I think that's what this song
is about. It's like, if I'm not friends with you,
it's because I'm not friends with you, because look at
all my friends, they're all canceled. You go through it
(25:57):
doesn't it doesn't. I've been canceled and everybody stood by
me like that's not a factor that I factor in.
That's That's what I'm taking. Okay, However, you know I
was talking to my friend and she disagreed. She said, no,
I don't think that big discussion. So you know, that's
the thing about Taylor's music, because you can have so
many meanings.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I looked up the armatized.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I didn't want to say it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You can all. No, I don't spelling it wrong because
we've got. The word that I got is armortized A
m O R T I z E armatized, which is
to reduce debt by paying.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Down regular That's not what it means, no, being the
sound that you make when you are with someone like okay,
like and you like armatized.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Oh okay, so it's not a real.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But she doesn't say ah, she makes a sound and
she replaces that word the word hypnotized.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I just I'm like, we're playing the censored songs. Is
this a PG like I'm not going to say you can.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Look okay, No, that's fine. Okay. So it's not reducing
debt by making regular payments? Is that what she's talking about?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Do you know what might be? It's another layer.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
The most sensible. Okay, this is honey, give some morn
you want.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Any wont Cobby, sweetheart?
Speaker 9 (27:19):
It was that a little person the bar and the
Chip was eelemated back off because a matter the miro.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It's Danny warm, Cobby honey.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
It was standing in the bathroom, why need they were
saying that skirtle hit me and a kind of home.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It feels like she's had a lot of those experiences
that she remembers for good. You know, she remembers them forever.
Someone told me that skirt doesn't fit right, and I
cried all the way home.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like you crossed her and that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah. Actually, you know what, Homer Simpson may have sort
of written this song first because his his version was
just once I would like to be called sir without
being followed by your making a scene.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's so funny when that have been funny to pop
in that song.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Because people are called call her honey are always being condescending. Yeah,
as in sir, you're making a scene.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, And again tying it back to the Travis Kelcey
is that the song is about how nice is it
when I've been called honey like in a condescending way
my whole life, and now I get called honey in
a sweetheart nice honey.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Okay, what's your pet name?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's honey? Actually, you can said an emoji with in
like messenger. Ours is like a honey pot me and
my partner.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And so you called Jesse honey as well call him honey. Yeah, okay, yeah,
I'm going to have to change mine for I've been
calling Naomi bub but you know, lately I've been sending
sending text messages in my car, you know, like Siri
or whatever. And she changes it to Barb.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And by the way, well, my best friends is Rat.
And they thought it was funny because then it's like
love you Rat, because then it's you know, if anything
about opened, they would say, well, the last thing he
said to me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Was rat Rat.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't know why, but that's well, they're basing it
off for you.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
All right. Final song. This is only forty one minutes
this whole album, you know, which is almost some link
for this podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Twenty nine ers. Okay, so the last one is the
life of the show goal. So this is the Sabrina
Carpenter song.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
YEA, what a way to end it?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's a big clap, Yeah, it is over hand clap.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You could tell your money being pretty and witty.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
They gave her the keys to this city.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Then they said she didn't do it legitly, I bought
a ticket. She's dancing in her daughters and Fishness fifty
and the cat zero missed ups looking back at this
it was kissling waited by the stage to a pact
and with the autograph hounds barking your name one like
(30:10):
the end of a cigarette.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
She came out.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I said, you live in Madie, and she said, thank
you for the lovely bouque.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You're sweeter than a beach boy. You don't out the
life of so girl, and you never ever gonna way
the law. You play the mother tu kay, you're softer
then again, so you done.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Girl, and you're never gonna wanna.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I didn't get this one. I didn't get that song.
Who's she to organized the show girl.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
She's talking about like a fictional show girl that it's
just a representation of all the people in her whole
life who said you're not gonna make it, You're not
gonna cut it, think right.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So you're never gonna as in, you're never gonna know
the life of show because you're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, and then you're never gonna want to like once
you find out you aren't gonna want to even once
you do, and then you know, it's a beautiful full
circle moment. At the very end chorus is now I
know the life of a show girl, and I wouldn't
want it any other way. And she brought Sabrina Carpenter
on because they did the erastour together. In fact, in Australia,
I saw Sabrina open for Taylor and this was before
(31:24):
Sabrina went mentally like massive, and so that was really
cool because I was like, oh, now she's one of
the biggest pop stars in the world too, and so
she also knows the line, she knows the life of
a show girl. And also her vocals are amazing, like
Taylor Swift is a great singer songwriter. Yes, Sabrina Carpenter
(31:44):
is an incredible vocalist. So it really Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Very sexy Solena. I don't know what she's doing, Sabrina Selena,
she's very sexual.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, it's very it is very much like taking my
sexuality back. It's for the you know, it's for the
female gays. It's for the girls. It's for like as
opposed for instead of for the male gaze in terms
of like that's what a lot of stuff was always
done for It's like, well, no, actually, this is just empowerment.
This is what I want to do, and I love it,
and I don't know, sometimes leaning into it. But yes,
(32:19):
I wonder whether because Sabrina Cupender just had a bunch
of songs that came out that are very racy, very racy,
getting bleeped on our station.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh yeah, bleeping the hell out.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Of them, sleeping, bleeping left front and center. And then
Taylor Swift, I would say this is her racist album ever,
and I wonder.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Whether she's rubbed off on her a bit.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I don't know, or.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Taylor feels more like less inhibitions and it's like, you
know what, let's just see.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Have you noticed that, Like sometimes when you hang around
with people that are a little bit rougher and then
a little bit rubs off and you're like, if I've
spent a bit of time with trades Lady building the house,
so all of a sudden, I go home and I
just drop a F bomb because out with trades. Yeah,
so that's what it is like Sabrina, because she's bringing
out the inner skank.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh no, none of that.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
No, she's.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Actualizing just gont come on.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But I love it, and I when I heard this album,
a lot of people will disagree, because I've heard some
people really don't like that aspect of it. I just think,
you know what Taylor said, But the more she's brought
out more music over the years, the more mature it's gotten.
And yeah, she's a woman, She's a grown woman.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's a very short album, though I've done you Reckon
like it's already sold how many millions of copies.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I think it's a really good amount in the sense
that her last album was like over two hours long
when you added up, because she did two full albums
back to back, really long songs, really lyrically deep and dense. Yeah,
and then this is the complete opposite to that. It's
just fun, it's boppy, and it's quick.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I thought it was value. The old ones were good value.
You know, you got two hours worth is here in
forty minutes? Come on? You know what I mean? Like,
if you just buyd two tubes of margarine, one's five
hundred grands, one's two kilos, I mean, get yourself your
two kilos of bloody Taylor right there, And I'm saying yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But yeah, overall, I would rate it very highly the
album for me is like an ace, a solid age
all of her others. Compared to all of her others,
I would say it's still in. Maybe it's it's moved
up into the top three of the albums. I really
love it. But this is the kind of Eybe I love,
I love Happy.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's very Taylor. I will say that every the whole
album is very Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, which is which is you? And you are a
what out of ten?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I gave it a five on air today and I'll
stick with it. I think it's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
You know, it's all right. I'm not I'm not offended
by hearing it, but I'm not gonna go. I'm not
gonna like if I'm searching through for a quick playlist,
let's go, I'm going to go to the gym. They're
just gonna let's pump on some tailor really get me
to give.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And you are entitled to my opinion. You're wrong opinion
I heard podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the free heart app. That's the Yeah Taylor
Swift Special podcast. Alana welcome, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is my dream to chat Taylor Swift with you
because I know that you so don't want to.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
No, not really, not really, So life of a show Girl.
How long has it been out for now? This album?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's been three ish four days okay, Friday afternoon, our time, Australia.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And how many times have you listened to it? I
don't even know, like countless.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I have listened to the album in full maybe three
or four times, but specific songs I've just been on repeat.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Right. Yeah, So we're going to go through blow by
blow and have a little listen to to like each
song and sort of discuss.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Which is great like a book.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, but it's good because.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
You've got a swift ye and I've got i'd like
to say, I try not to have a bias, and
then we've got someone who's just, you know, the anti
of everything. So it's a good balance.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yes, I've got a positive negativity about everything and I
love that. So the first single and this one's already
you know, breaking records for streaming and stuff. The Fate
of Aphelia. Now, before we play a bit Ophelia. This
is something from Hamlet.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, so Aphelia is a character in Hamlet, the main
who went mad. Yeah. The main theory about or the
link with the song is that Taylor Swift says that
she kind of thought I was going to suffer the
fate of a Felia, you know, just going mad by love,
never picking the right one and just kind of being
doomed to that. And she's found love and she's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
To call on the megaphone. You want to see me.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Pumped up kicks.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's got a nice Featpio.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You let the mad Gosh, you never call.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Me I'm a drowning.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Calling a swarmer. Loyalty to me rather violent?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
By God, You're just.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
See all.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Great from the sea.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
This mot is a TikTok dance.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Now already happy, I'm already.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Coligeous. See you're five.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
So this is all So this is a bit of
a love song for for Travis, like You've saved me
from the fate of Ophelia. Is that what we're getting?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I think?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So, I would say when you boil it down, most
of this album is about Likelse. Yeah, it's it's it's
like a love story to him, or it's where she's
at in life. Yeah, so you know she writes from
her experience. She always has miss this is just.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
What do you think of that song that? What do
you think it has that right on the album?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I love that one. It's high for me. I would
say it eight and a half to night. It was
a grower. I remember listening to it at first thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, it's fine, it hasn't grown on me yet.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's a grower. Well, you need to listen to it
another night.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Nine more times is the key that? Okay, now track two,
let's play a bit of the track first and then
discuss Track two is Elizabeth Taylor. It's called.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Do you think it's.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That of Porto Fino was on Mamma And when you
call Me at the Plaza at tonoon.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It doesn't feel so glamorous to be me? All alright, guys,
promise on the right light with away, but you was
on the line.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Was so good Taylor.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Okay, it's actually getting a bit more catchy second time
around or third time round that song. Yeah, so Elizabeth
Taylor is that This is what I'm guessing because I
know nothing about them. Is that was that a code
word that Kelsey used to check into hotel rooms or something?
Was that his name?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wouldn't know because is that code for him?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No Taylor or no?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well your thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think it's more again that life of a show
Girl theme, right that really only the first couple of
songs for me actually have anything to do with the theme,
and then the last one and the rest are kind
of just other songs. Elizabeth Taylor is like the show girl, right.
I watched any interview of Taylor saying about how what
would she do if the rug was kind of pulled
(05:14):
out from under her and she kind of lost everything?
And that's what this song was kind of about. She's
like add cry my eyes out first of all, and
that's kind of the first line of the chorus.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, if you ever said, if you letters ever say goodbye?
And crime is yeah, So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Kind of about like wanting to hold on to it,
but also yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And poor Afino, that's a nice that's a place in Italy.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I don't know, that's out of my bounds.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Like somewhere nice. It sounds like we're very fancy.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I've not cultured enough.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Italy. I think it's before you go to.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Was she somewhere she does have? She was saying that
she's got this big catalog, like a note in her
notes app of just random words, places and phrases. So
when she has a songwriting session, she just goes and
scrolls through and kind of whatever will fit, yes, sucks inspirations,
she'll pop it into maybe. Yeah, Okay, she got confused
with her bucket list, trable bucket list.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
This is it on the way to Capri to Naples
and board a fiend. I don't know anyway. Okay, so
that's that's the second track. That's about Kelsey.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, well, I don't know. I think that's more about Herbert.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, it's now Opolite is the third one. This song,
this track here, I think is is filler open Liepe?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
How dare you what? You think it's good? How dare
you listen to this?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
I am single?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is my favorite line.
Speaker 9 (06:45):
Brothers eating out of the trash, I never going back to.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
His boyfriend eating out the trash is going back to
ex boyfriends.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
That's all the go o, the fun I've seen it before.
They'll see it again.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Life.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
This song it ends one and.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Oh it's next night.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
The sky is an operlight, open life, blight, man made Opal.
Oh look, the meaning is brightness. Yeah, the meaning of
it is is it looks like Opal, but it's man made.
And she's like, sometimes you actually just have to make
your own happiness, Like my happiness is man made, and
it's it's you know, she's she has a connection with Opal.
(07:55):
It's her mum and her favorite stone. And then it's
also Travis Kelsey's birthstone. So there's a lot of tying
into it. But if we're just talking about the vibe
of this song, yes, you can't say that that's not
going to be in on the background of whatever you're doing,
whether you're insulating a house, just doing something.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But I think that is one point. Though it's background music.
I don't think it's.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's not it's yes, it's cheery background music.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, maybe you're yeah, Okay, So this next one,
Father Figure. So this is track four, Father Figure.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have a little listening moodium.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, I'm wondering whether this is about like found you,
like a record rep or something.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're right, I'll.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Look to you in the Jack and Joe racks and
to go rope, you do the chateau. You are money of.
Speaker 10 (08:48):
Me, I saw, I'll be far vegan that WELLGA can
make deals big Jacks begar, this is your move. Just
step into my office and disst.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Leave it with me. So is that about what's his name? Scooter?
You reckon? I don't be about old mate Scoot.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I listened to this song and it just like, I
don't know, meaning one over my head. But I've seen
a lot of other people are theorizing that it's about
her very very original record label person kind of helped
build her up. Well really she built his record label up.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
There wasn't much yeah, okay much on his record label,
and then he didn't sell her music got sold somewhere
else and anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
But she got swindled by, didn't she.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What was interesting is I saw the album release in
cinemas and basically it was a little video of her
sitting at the chair saying, this is what this song
is about, and then she played the song, this is
what this song is about, played the song. She didn't
really mention anyone by name other than her mum, but
she actually said this song is more about herself, and
sometimes she feels like the father figure. Sometimes she feels like.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Does she need it? Did she need a father figure?
Is her dad?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's a big fan. In fact, I'm pretty sure he
runs a fan. I'm not joking. Tailor Nation, that's him.
But yeah, sorry, Look Taylor said it's more about her,
but I think fans are kind of saying, well, she's
pulling from other things again, nice jazzy music, you're sitting
vibing out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's not a hip for But next drag is eldest daughter.
It's called she plays piano, doesn't she?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What doesn't she do?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Everybody is so punk on the everyone's on farther too
yor not. Every joke's just trolling and memes sad as
it seems. Berdy is hot. Everybody's cut throat in the corners.
Every single heartache is cold as those. When you found me,
I said I was persy.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
That was a lie.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I have been afflicted by a terminal unique news. I've
been dying just from trying to seem cool. But I'm
not the.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Badest and this is insad, But I'm never gonna let you.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'm never gonna leave you. As so many.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Trade smooth bads, but I'm never gonna break that bough.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm never gonna leave you.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Bad.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
So who's she in this song?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
The eldest Daughter? Is she the oldest daughter in Yeah,
this one is a bit of a miss for me
only because like her fifth song on every album is
kind of the pull at your heart strings, you know,
summon a feeling out of the listener kind of song, right,
and this for me, I don't know, it was just
(12:19):
a bit of a mess, and I think a lot
of the lyrics are just kind of very simple.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes, like she's amazing, she taps him. Well at the
start there they're talking about, you know, all the all
the trolls online and stuff. You go, yeah, that's very
that's you know, that's that's on point for all the
kids listening and stuff. But then it's sort of, what's
the oldest daughter think about? She's the oldest daughter, and
she's well, it's just.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
About like all the extra pressure that you put on yourself.
I think that's my taking anyway. But yeah, it's just
I think it's like it was going to be emotional
and it's a little bit of a I don't know,
it's a miss for me, but I wouldn't skip it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, but that's you. But the next track, okay, so
we can talk about this is called ruin the Friendship,
and it takes a bit of a turn about halfway
through because the schoolboy that I think she's talking about,
the schoolboy friend from way back in, from way back
in the day, ends up dying. And that's that's the
term for me. I wasn't expecting that bit. All of
(13:11):
a sudden, she's going back for the sun, yeah, to say, yeah,
let's have a listen. This is ruined the friendship. I
think that I like the bib of this.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I do too, and you just don't expect it. I think, yeah,
it kind of catches you off.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Guarden, Yeah got that based on.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Listen name Grass from September, Ray Graylver passible of me.
You just.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
In ba Galentin wrote in.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
The exact beach watching the game from your brother's cheek,
you're my.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
My boy, and then.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
A little should have kiss you anyway, should kiss you
anyway in the last night.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Conting should have.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Kissed you.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Don't know. He's a real g this bloke.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
She did have a friend from high school that passed away,
But I would say that there's a lot of experiences
that have shaped this song because she, again Taylor was
very not explicit in who this was about, and also said,
you know, as much as I say, like, oh, I
(14:43):
should have kissed you anyway, She's like, if I made
any different decisions, I might not be where I am.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, exactly. Do you have one of those from high school?
Do you have some bloke that you think I should
have passed on that bloke?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
But when I went to the one direction concept, probably
my biggest life regret is I was really close to
the front of the stage and I thought I could
have just jumped up. But I know I probably would
have been banned from the venue forever.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
But I was.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I was jumpable, I was jumping. I thought I could
make that touched. I have a dance. Well, that's the thing, dance.
I would never But I sometimes think, I'm like, you know,
I was fourteen at the time. They probably would have
just put me a slap on the wrist and say
don't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it.
I didn't do it, But sometimes I think, what if
what if I just jumped up and had.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
A dance I had this girl. Her name was Janelle,
and she was in year She was in year eleven
and I was in year ten, and we went to
Japan like on a you know, like the whole not
the whole like because we started Japanese. She was in
the year above and a bunch of kids from school
went and we billeted and stuff with there for three weeks. Anyway,
so I had a massive crush on her at the end,
(15:47):
like during Japan, like I was like, this girls, she's
just amazing. But she was older than me, and I
was like, I've got no shot, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Then, okay, just quickly not a teacher, No, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, she's only a year old. And it sat together
on the bus and stuff when we go places. I
was like, oh man, this girl, she's amazed, but I've
got nothing. Anyway, I saw her years and years later
and I said to her, I said, and we were
both married by then, and I said, you know, when
I was in Japan, I had the biggest crush on you.
I thought you were just amazing. Yeah what she said,
(16:16):
she goes, you idiot. I was waiting for you to
try something and you never did. Kip.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh my gosh, what could have been? So I would
have been different, but maybe not for the better.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, probably not, probably not.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Got a beautiful little family, so everything's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's fine. Yeah, no regrets. So onto actually romantic? Now
this is what are we on the track? Wait?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Preamblet don claim and I'm convinced that this could be
a disc track about Charlie XCX.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Oh now what's his story with her?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Her?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So Charlie XCX was story. Charlie XX is married to
someone in the nineteen seventy five and someone else that
was in the nineteen seventy five is matter? Heally he
was dating Taylor Swift, so they saw each other a lot. Anyway.
Charlie XCX made a song last year, Many Thoughts, was
about Taylor Swift and basically said, you know, in the industry,
(17:11):
I meant to be friends with all these people, but
you know, they kind of make me doubt myself sometimes.
I don't want to see you at the backstage at
my boyfriend's show. I don't want to see you everywhere. Yes,
that was kind of the vibe. I would say it
was very mild. Yes, and then people think that this
is a direct yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Because it sounds like somebody who's trolling your online who
is Yeah, it's called actually romantic.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
I heard you call me boring Barbi when you're out
feeling brain.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I've had my ex and then you said you're glad.
He goes steady, olled me a song sing and.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It makes you sick to see meur face. Some people
might be a fan, but it's actually sweet. All the
time you've spent on me, it's honestly world. Oh the
effort you've put it, it's actually.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Belly God to.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Love me like you do, because it's like when someone
gets obsessed with you, hating you, it's like that they
almost it's almost romantic, how much time and effort they
put into Well.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, and we'll never know what goes on behind closed doors.
But to me, I hear that, and I think there
are too many similarities for it not to be true.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's got to be about Charlie x e X. Okay.
Next one is wish List with a couple of dollar
signs to replace the s's for wish list.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Stylistically, we love that a bit of flats like Kesher.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Kesher is a till sign.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
A couple of them around have a dollar sign no no.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I don't think Snoop Snoop was around before that. People
did that. But this is a bit a wish list.
This is very romantic, isn't it. This is another love
song to Travis.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It is they want that yacht life under chopper blades.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
They want those bright lights and Balanci shades and a
fast act with the baby face. They want it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Oh, they want that complex female character.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They want that credital smash pond or and an oscar
on their bathroom floor.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
They want it. Oh, and they should have what they want.
They deserve what they want. Hope they get what they want.
I just want you.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
A couple of kids, get the life.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Wait till the birthday, got leave a slong they do Wow,
then they turn another job away with the basketball.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I got to say. She does those little those little
lyrics that Taylor does, like got me dreaming of a
driveway with a basketball hoop. It does paint a picture
because you were instantly get that's a family, and it's
like she's you know, I've got to pay kudos.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's interesting because I wonder, is this the first time
she's explicitly referenced like wanting to have kids with her partner,
because I don't really recall her doing that. Yeah, and
it's like, yeah, how would that even happen? Is she
going to do that with her life the most famous
person in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, and she sort of talks about everyone's got the
world's got to leave us alone. So then they'll go
off into some sort of compound.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Another Yeah, another vibe, the one I would say this
is just sitting somewhere in the middle for me.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah, okay for wish list. Now moving on to Wood. Now,
this is the most controversial song of the album.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh my favorite.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You like this one.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I love the vibe of it. It is the biggest
bop the album.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Well it starts off with the Jackson Jackson five but ABC,
Oh it's not exactly, but it's close enough.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Is third was distract Pani's did she did?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
She say panties on?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Penny is unlucky, pennies unlucky. It's all it's like little
like luck and superstition.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Okay, called Okay, it's the third time heard. I thought
it was panties on. Every time.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You go.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
About something, it's good.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
None word.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Never did any God I got over it's under sign.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I wonder how many sort of famous older songs are
referenced in this, because there's a lot, isn't there on
Wood Dancing in.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
The Dark, or there's lots of layers, And I think
that's what's interesting. The longer you look at literally anything
Taylor Swift does, the more meanings you'll find because she
just packs it with all these little tiny well they
call them easter eggs. It's just for people that unpack
and she's.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Doing it on purpose or people reading. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, she just is such an over planner. Yeah, and
she just packs all the all the stuff in I
think just base value if you're not looking at the lyrics.
This is just such a bop.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yeah, and this is probably my favorite favorite.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
But it's hard because I think a lot of people
don't find the meaning very palatable. I'm just someone who can.
You know, it can be a really sad song, but
if it sounds like this, I'm bopping around.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And is wood as much of a phallic reference as
I'm thinking it is, I'm not reading too much.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is innuendo okay?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And there's a little bit of it.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Sounds opened my eyes?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Blood would.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Love was the key that forgive me?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It sounds copy my eyes would hard his love was
the key that opes.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So it's it's had thighs at some stage it is it's.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Sensor because in the original these are like they're they're
all p G words, but in the context it is
very risky. So she's changed like very simple words like
thighs armatized, which I don't you know, I don't even
know to hypnotize, just so you can't even pretend to
draw any meaning.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
It's like, what's armatized?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Are you going to have to google it?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, you're not going to tell me? Should I know
what armatized?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Dinized by someone's no? Like like like u h like.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like yeah, alright, I'm gonna look at that while we
play a little bit of the next one canceled. I
like this one by the Bay. I think this should
be the.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Single that it would be.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Oh okay, at first the situation could be saved, of course,
but they'd already picked up your Gray and hers.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Beware the wrath of mass crusades. Did your girl boss
too close to the sun? Did they catch you having
far too much fun?
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Come when meet?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
When they see us, they run something wicked this way?
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Come stood, I like my friends canceled. I like con
Clinton punching and then scanceer like my whiskey, sour and poison.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
Sorry flowers, welcome till my underworld where it gets quite
dark at least you know exactly your friends.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I like that it's canceled. Yeah, And what's her friend
that's kind of being canceled?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well, Blake Lively, there's a lot in the media about
are they friends? Are they not anymore? Because they were
really close friends?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Did she drop her after she got controversial? You reckon
to Taylor dropp her?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
This is what I think, as you know, and my
bias might be showing, is that I think that maybe
she's just stepped back on more. Something else would have
had to happen, because I think that's what this song
is about. It's like, if I'm not friends with you,
it's because I'm not friends with you, because look at
all my friends, they're all canceled. You go through it
(25:57):
doesn't it doesn't. I've been canceled and everybody stood by
me like that's not a factor that I factor in.
That's That's what I'm taking. Okay, However, you know I
was talking to my friend and she disagreed. She said, no,
I don't think that big discussion. So you know, that's
the thing about Taylor's music, because you can have so
many meanings.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I looked up the armatized.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I didn't want to say it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You can all. No, I don't spelling it wrong because
we've got. The word that I got is armortized A
m O R T I z E armatized, which is
to reduce debt by paying.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Down regular That's not what it means, no, being the
sound that you make when you are with someone like okay,
like and you like armatized.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Oh okay, so it's not a real.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
But she doesn't say ah, she makes a sound and
she replaces that word the word hypnotized.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I just I'm like, we're playing the censored songs. Is
this a PG like I'm not going to say you can.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Look okay, No, that's fine. Okay. So it's not reducing
debt by making regular payments? Is that what she's talking about?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Do you know what might be? It's another layer.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
The most sensible. Okay, this is honey, give some morn
you want.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Any wont Cobby, sweetheart?
Speaker 9 (27:19):
It was that a little person the bar and the
Chip was eelemated back off because a matter the miro.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It's Danny warm, Cobby honey.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
It was standing in the bathroom, why need they were
saying that skirtle hit me and a kind of home.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It feels like she's had a lot of those experiences
that she remembers for good. You know, she remembers them forever.
Someone told me that skirt doesn't fit right, and I
cried all the way home.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like you crossed her and that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah. Actually, you know what, Homer Simpson may have sort
of written this song first because his his version was
just once I would like to be called sir without
being followed by your making a scene.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's so funny when that have been funny to pop
in that song.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Because people are called call her honey are always being condescending. Yeah,
as in sir, you're making a scene.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, And again tying it back to the Travis Kelcey
is that the song is about how nice is it
when I've been called honey like in a condescending way
my whole life, and now I get called honey in
a sweetheart nice honey.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Okay, what's your pet name?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's honey? Actually, you can said an emoji with in
like messenger. Ours is like a honey pot me and
my partner.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And so you called Jesse honey as well call him honey. Yeah, okay, yeah,
I'm going to have to change mine for I've been
calling Naomi bub but you know, lately I've been sending
sending text messages in my car, you know, like Siri
or whatever. And she changes it to Barb.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And by the way, well, my best friends is Rat.
And they thought it was funny because then it's like
love you Rat, because then it's you know, if anything
about opened, they would say, well, the last thing he
said to me.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Was rat Rat.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't know why, but that's well, they're basing it
off for you.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
All right. Final song. This is only forty one minutes
this whole album, you know, which is almost some link
for this podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Twenty nine ers. Okay, so the last one is the
life of the show goal. So this is the Sabrina
Carpenter song.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
YEA, what a way to end it?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Not me.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's a big clap, Yeah, it is over hand clap.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You could tell your money being pretty and witty.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
They gave her the keys to this city.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Then they said she didn't do it legitly, I bought
a ticket. She's dancing in her daughters and Fishness fifty
and the cat zero missed ups looking back at this
it was kissling waited by the stage to a pact
and with the autograph hounds barking your name one like
(30:10):
the end of a cigarette.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
She came out.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I said, you live in Madie, and she said, thank
you for the lovely bouque.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You're sweeter than a beach boy. You don't out the
life of so girl, and you never ever gonna way
the law. You play the mother tu kay, you're softer
then again, so you done.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Girl, and you're never gonna wanna.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I didn't get this one. I didn't get that song.
Who's she to organized the show girl.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
She's talking about like a fictional show girl that it's
just a representation of all the people in her whole
life who said you're not gonna make it, You're not
gonna cut it, think right.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So you're never gonna as in, you're never gonna know
the life of show because you're not good enough.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, and then you're never gonna want to like once
you find out you aren't gonna want to even once
you do, and then you know, it's a beautiful full
circle moment. At the very end chorus is now I
know the life of a show girl, and I wouldn't
want it any other way. And she brought Sabrina Carpenter
on because they did the erastour together. In fact, in Australia,
I saw Sabrina open for Taylor and this was before
(31:24):
Sabrina went mentally like massive, and so that was really
cool because I was like, oh, now she's one of
the biggest pop stars in the world too, and so
she also knows the line, she knows the life of
a show girl. And also her vocals are amazing, like
Taylor Swift is a great singer songwriter. Yes, Sabrina Carpenter
(31:44):
is an incredible vocalist. So it really Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Very sexy Solena. I don't know what she's doing, Sabrina Selena,
she's very sexual.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, it's very it is very much like taking my
sexuality back. It's for the you know, it's for the
female gays. It's for the girls. It's for like as
opposed for instead of for the male gaze in terms
of like that's what a lot of stuff was always
done for It's like, well, no, actually, this is just empowerment.
This is what I want to do, and I love it,
and I don't know, sometimes leaning into it. But yes,
(32:19):
I wonder whether because Sabrina Cupender just had a bunch
of songs that came out that are very racy, very racy,
getting bleeped on our station.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Oh yeah, bleeping the hell out.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Of them, sleeping, bleeping left front and center. And then
Taylor Swift, I would say this is her racist album ever,
and I wonder.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Whether she's rubbed off on her a bit.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I don't know, or.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Taylor feels more like less inhibitions and it's like, you
know what, let's just see.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Have you noticed that, Like sometimes when you hang around
with people that are a little bit rougher and then
a little bit rubs off and you're like, if I've
spent a bit of time with trades Lady building the house,
so all of a sudden, I go home and I
just drop a F bomb because out with trades. Yeah,
so that's what it is like Sabrina, because she's bringing
out the inner skank.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh no, none of that.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
No, she's.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Actualizing just gont come on.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But I love it, and I when I heard this album,
a lot of people will disagree, because I've heard some
people really don't like that aspect of it. I just think,
you know what Taylor said, But the more she's brought
out more music over the years, the more mature it's gotten.
And yeah, she's a woman, She's a grown woman.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's a very short album, though I've done you Reckon
like it's already sold how many millions of copies.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I think it's a really good amount in the sense
that her last album was like over two hours long
when you added up, because she did two full albums
back to back, really long songs, really lyrically deep and dense. Yeah,
and then this is the complete opposite to that. It's
just fun, it's boppy, and it's quick.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I thought it was value. The old ones were good value.
You know, you got two hours worth is here in
forty minutes? Come on? You know what I mean? Like,
if you just buyd two tubes of margarine, one's five
hundred grands, one's two kilos, I mean, get yourself your
two kilos of bloody Taylor right there, And I'm saying yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
But yeah, overall, I would rate it very highly the
album for me is like an ace, a solid age
all of her others. Compared to all of her others,
I would say it's still in. Maybe it's it's moved
up into the top three of the albums. I really
love it. But this is the kind of Eybe I love,
I love Happy.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's very Taylor. I will say that every the whole
album is very Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, which is which is you? And you are a
what out of ten?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I gave it a five on air today and I'll
stick with it. I think it's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
You know, it's all right. I'm not I'm not offended
by hearing it, but I'm not gonna go. I'm not
gonna like if I'm searching through for a quick playlist,
let's go, I'm going to go to the gym. They're
just gonna let's pump on some tailor really get me
to give.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
And you are entitled to my opinion. You're wrong opinion
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