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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Robin and Kid Now with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I think we're going to try to get through this.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's okay, yeah, we gotcha, you know we do.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So we're talking about Jem Gaison.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So Adolescence is the number one show on Netflix. It
is about a boy in England. Now, the first half
of the first episode, you don't know what's going to happen,
and I don't feel I'm going to spoil it if
I say it, because then the next three hour long
episodes are about the consequences of his actions. Basically, a
thirteen year old boy murders a fourteen year old girl
(00:39):
and what you see in this show is the family,
the school, the whole community surrounding this child coming to
terms with what actually happened. And it ends really with
the parents asking the question, you know, are they to blame?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We had I think we've got this scene. This is
an incredible It's like towards the end of the of
the final episode of the Parents.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
All kids are like that these days, aren't.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
They don't know what they're watching in that room of
watching them all or anything, do.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Look at our fella that popped up on my phone
going on about sweet women and our men should be
men and all that was only lo for something.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
For the gym. Whant I You can't.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You can't keep an eye on them all the time.
We just can't. It's a terrible temper for two of you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't kidnap today's but do.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You sometimes think we should have stopped it?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Seen it and stopped it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We can't do like that's what she said. It's not
a halfault. We can't blame ourselves.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But we made the Yeah, we made him, didn't we?
What what a moment that is? But it's it is
worth watching with subtitles. I should say that as well,
because it is not always easy to understand the thick accents.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, and there's one. I think it's a scotsman in
the prison where the kid is I mean almost like
you cannot anyway, Why is it causing such a big
response from you?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Because when the wife says there, she says, you have
he says, he says, I got a temper and then
he said that I didn't give him that, did I?
And I think that and seeing that the when the
dad there's a there's a scene in that before that
where the dad is had like he's having a horrible time.
Obviously his life is ruined, and you know, these kids
(02:23):
spray paint his van and he has this rage moment
where he throws the can of paint on the van
and he just can't cope and.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I just was And then he sees the kid that
did the tagging on the van and he loses it, but.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Then he also has restraint, like he loses it, but
he doesn't punch the kid, but he's he.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Goes scary.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, And I think the when he when he said
I didn't I didn't give him that, did it? Did I?
And I think after after watching the episode, I was
crying a lot and why well, yeah, me know me
hug me and she's like, you're not your dad because
I'm so afraid because I definitely got my temper from
(03:07):
my dad and I'm so afraid of giving it to Raugh.
I'm so afraid that I'm that he's going to see
me rage out and then think it's as normal and
do it?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Can I ask your question, did you ever have a
conversation with your father about his anger and did he
ever have a conversation with you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, And when you're a little boy. No, I don't reckon,
not as a little boys. Only as we got older.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And what did he say?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh? Like he he would always apologize, right, he would
always come and say, I'm sorry, I got so mad
and sorry I broke that thing or whatever. He never
he never. I mean I say we never heard us,
but I mean we did grow up in the smack generation, right,
so he definitely smacked us, and he smacked us in
anger sometimes. And it wasn't until I was I grew fast,
So I was a big kid when I was thirteen fourteen,
(04:01):
and I remember I made a mistake and I poisoned
a couple of his plants. It was on this accident
and he was laying into me, and I was bigger
than him by then, and I picked him up, like
I grabbed him by his shirt and I lifted him
up and I said, that's it, mate, you don't hit
me anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The young lionelder line really.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And he remembers that day and that that was that,
and I obviously you know where things have changed. I
will you know, I never lay I mean I've never
laid a hand on anyone, and I will never smack wraf.
But I do get mad the same way, like he
you know, infuriates me. And I've thrown something, you know,
like against a wall in and like I saw my
dad do, which I always remember. I always remember him
(04:41):
throwing a coffee cup.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And when he threw the coffee cup, he never said
anything to you, no, because from what for whatever it's worth.
I think with kids, we assume that they don't see everything,
and they do and we never know what they remember. Right.
But I've been told through lots of psychologists and psycho
i trists, is that you have to be age appropriate,
(05:03):
but you have to be honest with your children because
if they're seeing those things and they're not getting an explanation.
But if you sit down and say to Raffi, this
is just me based on my experience, I'm not telling
anyone how to parent. I'm just offering a suggestion based
on the appreciating yes that I've learned. Right, is that
if you sit down with Raffi and say, and be
really honest, I have a temper. I'm not proud of it.
(05:25):
I don't want you to copy this. I'm trying to
control it. I want to teach you to control it.
Then he goes ah when Dad's losing it. He doesn't
like that and he doesn't want to do that, and
maybe then he can, and you've taken him into your trust,
it might help. Do you think Raffi is coffeing you?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't know, but I just see so much of
myself in him, like so much of myself in him,
and that I'm that's and I guess that's my fear.
And I just also remember going with my dad going
I'm never going to do that, right. I was just like,
I'm never going to do that, and then I do it,
even though I promised, even though I hated it. I
hated him raging out and I hated him being angry,
(06:09):
and then I do it, and I don't know how
to stop.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
It, because that's what you saw, that's where you were parented,
you know, Like I think we all adopt things from
our own childhood that we don't want and don't like,
and we just have to rationalize. But the great thing
about generational growth is you can change it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, yes, well that's all I was going to say.
Real quickly. I know exactly how you feel and the
way you think, because I know when I get angry
and I burst out and I get cranky it myself
because I then see it in the kids like just
this is small things. But then it's like when you
start like, whoaw, no, that's because I'm doing that day,
(06:49):
so they think it's okay, They're just they're doing it
because Dad's doing it. And now I'm just so conscious
of it, like I'm trying to just I don't try
and make a big deal about things. And then now
I'm just trying to focus on not rage and not
getting cranky in front of not bursting out and doing that.
So then I'm just trying to then change the way
(07:10):
they see things now.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But what did adolescents that film, right, what that Netflix
show taught us is that silence and not intervening and
not speaking out and not getting involved actually had a
far worse result.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Got to talk about it, don't you Well that's.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What I did. And as I said, I'm not telling
anyone to do anything, but I think that if you
you know, I always go to the scenario that what
is the worst case, and if the worst case happened,
can I look myself in the eye and said I
did the best job I did I could do and
I couldn't have done anything else, and in that situation,
(07:48):
in that film, they couldn't say that. They couldn't say
we did everything humanly possible. So I guess that's the
question we've all got to ask ourselves right now
Robin and Kid Now with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I think we're going to try to get through this.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's okay, yeah, we gotcha, you know we do.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So we're talking about Jem Gaison.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So Adolescence is the number one show on Netflix. It
is about a boy in England. Now, the first half
of the first episode, you don't know what's going to happen,
and I don't feel I'm going to spoil it if
I say it, because then the next three hour long
episodes are about the consequences of his actions. Basically, a
thirteen year old boy murders a fourteen year old girl
(00:39):
and what you see in this show is the family,
the school, the whole community surrounding this child coming to
terms with what actually happened. And it ends really with
the parents asking the question, you know, are they to blame?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We had I think we've got this scene. This is
an incredible It's like towards the end of the of
the final episode of the Parents.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
All kids are like that these days, aren't.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
They don't know what they're watching in that room of
watching them all or anything, do.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Look at our fella that popped up on my phone
going on about sweet women and our men should be
men and all that was only lo for something.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
For the gym. Whant I You can't.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
You can't keep an eye on them all the time.
We just can't. It's a terrible temper for two of you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't kidnap today's but do.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
You sometimes think we should have stopped it?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Seen it and stopped it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We can't do like that's what she said. It's not
a halfault. We can't blame ourselves.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
But we made the Yeah, we made him, didn't we?
What what a moment that is? But it's it is
worth watching with subtitles. I should say that as well,
because it is not always easy to understand the thick accents.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, and there's one. I think it's a scotsman in
the prison where the kid is I mean almost like
you cannot anyway, Why is it causing such a big
response from you?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Because when the wife says there, she says, you have
he says, he says, I got a temper and then
he said that I didn't give him that, did I?
And I think that and seeing that the when the
dad there's a there's a scene in that before that
where the dad is had like he's having a horrible time.
Obviously his life is ruined, and you know, these kids
(02:23):
spray paint his van and he has this rage moment
where he throws the can of paint on the van
and he just can't cope and.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I just was And then he sees the kid that
did the tagging on the van and he loses it, but.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Then he also has restraint, like he loses it, but
he doesn't punch the kid, but he's he.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Goes scary.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, And I think the when he when he said
I didn't I didn't give him that, did it? Did I?
And I think after after watching the episode, I was
crying a lot and why well, yeah, me know me
hug me and she's like, you're not your dad because
I'm so afraid because I definitely got my temper from
(03:07):
my dad and I'm so afraid of giving it to Raugh.
I'm so afraid that I'm that he's going to see
me rage out and then think it's as normal and
do it?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Can I ask your question, did you ever have a
conversation with your father about his anger and did he
ever have a conversation with you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, And when you're a little boy. No, I don't reckon,
not as a little boys. Only as we got older.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And what did he say?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh? Like he he would always apologize, right, he would
always come and say, I'm sorry, I got so mad
and sorry I broke that thing or whatever. He never
he never. I mean I say we never heard us,
but I mean we did grow up in the smack generation, right,
so he definitely smacked us, and he smacked us in
anger sometimes. And it wasn't until I was I grew fast,
So I was a big kid when I was thirteen fourteen,
(04:01):
and I remember I made a mistake and I poisoned
a couple of his plants. It was on this accident
and he was laying into me, and I was bigger
than him by then, and I picked him up, like
I grabbed him by his shirt and I lifted him
up and I said, that's it, mate, you don't hit
me anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
The young lionelder line really.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And he remembers that day and that that was that,
and I obviously you know where things have changed. I
will you know, I never lay I mean I've never
laid a hand on anyone, and I will never smack wraf.
But I do get mad the same way, like he
you know, infuriates me. And I've thrown something, you know,
like against a wall in and like I saw my
dad do, which I always remember. I always remember him
(04:41):
throwing a coffee cup.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
And when he threw the coffee cup, he never said
anything to you, no, because from what for whatever it's worth.
I think with kids, we assume that they don't see everything,
and they do and we never know what they remember. Right.
But I've been told through lots of psychologists and psycho
i trists, is that you have to be age appropriate,
(05:03):
but you have to be honest with your children because
if they're seeing those things and they're not getting an explanation.
But if you sit down and say to Raffi, this
is just me based on my experience, I'm not telling
anyone how to parent. I'm just offering a suggestion based
on the appreciating yes that I've learned. Right, is that
if you sit down with Raffi and say, and be
really honest, I have a temper. I'm not proud of it.
(05:25):
I don't want you to copy this. I'm trying to
control it. I want to teach you to control it.
Then he goes ah when Dad's losing it. He doesn't
like that and he doesn't want to do that, and
maybe then he can, and you've taken him into your trust,
it might help. Do you think Raffi is coffeing you?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't know, but I just see so much of
myself in him, like so much of myself in him,
and that I'm that's and I guess that's my fear.
And I just also remember going with my dad going
I'm never going to do that, right. I was just like,
I'm never going to do that, and then I do it,
even though I promised, even though I hated it. I
hated him raging out and I hated him being angry,
(06:09):
and then I do it, and I don't know how
to stop.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
It, because that's what you saw, that's where you were parented,
you know, Like I think we all adopt things from
our own childhood that we don't want and don't like,
and we just have to rationalize. But the great thing
about generational growth is you can change it.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, yes, well that's all I was going to say.
Real quickly. I know exactly how you feel and the
way you think, because I know when I get angry
and I burst out and I get cranky it myself
because I then see it in the kids like just
this is small things. But then it's like when you
start like, whoaw, no, that's because I'm doing that day,
(06:49):
so they think it's okay, They're just they're doing it
because Dad's doing it. And now I'm just so conscious
of it, like I'm trying to just I don't try
and make a big deal about things. And then now
I'm just trying to focus on not rage and not
getting cranky in front of not bursting out and doing that.
So then I'm just trying to then change the way
(07:10):
they see things now.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But what did adolescents that film, right, what that Netflix
show taught us is that silence and not intervening and
not speaking out and not getting involved actually had a
far worse result.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Got to talk about it, don't you Well that's.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What I did. And as I said, I'm not telling
anyone to do anything, but I think that if you
you know, I always go to the scenario that what
is the worst case, and if the worst case happened,
can I look myself in the eye and said I
did the best job I did I could do and
I couldn't have done anything else, and in that situation,
(07:48):
in that film, they couldn't say that. They couldn't say
we did everything humanly possible. So I guess that's the
question we've all got to ask ourselves right now
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