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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Robin Kid Now with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So, I know this has been weighing on your mind
a lot, Robin. We spoke about it just over a
week ago.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah, a little while back.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm renovating and I've had some friends come up and
help me do some of the renovation. And one of
them is from Adelaide. Her name is Linda and she
brought her partner Mark. Now I have two dogs, Maltese
called Mali and who's a complete princess, and Molly.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Who's a cattle kelpie cross.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now, Molly is terrified of the world outside of our gates, cars, people, dogs, anything.
She is just beside herself. She's very attached to me.
But you know, she's a kelpie cattle cross. She needs
to be able to be walked and run and I
do that every single day, but it's super stressful for her.
So with my friend Linda and her partner markup. Mark
(01:14):
owns a farm in the Adelaide Hills and he suggested
that he could take Molly and let her become his farm.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Dog because it was was Molly hanging out with him.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We loved him, and she doesn't usually like men, so
the fact that she found this guy that she really liked.
There's like a select group of people that'd be my
two sons, my partner, Olivia, and now Mark. Everyone else
she just hates on site.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, so what son doesn't she like?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, no, doesn't really have it. You're about to do
it as well. Not overly concerned.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So when we're talking about this, I asked you guys
for your opinion because it's something that is not that uncommon,
and you know, people are really definite about what they
thought I should do.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
They're our family, and they're our babies and we don't
want to lose them or anything like that. However, she's
a Kelpie cross and she's built for farm work, and
I reckon she'd be much more happier on the farm.
But I bought my eyes yet when I gave her away, she's.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Going to go to the farm. They're a working dog,
they're not really a social dog, and she would be
much happier where she can just run around and not
have to stress. Maybe Molly would be best on the farm,
but maybe do it as a trial see how she
goes see how she attaches and enjoys the area. If
she just falls back into a space again, maybe it's
(02:38):
not the right pit for her.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's pretty much a clean sweep, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Everyone were very very definite about it. So I took
all that on board, and three things have happened and
a decision has been made. Number one is that Linda,
who's my dear girlfriend, doesn't live with her partner Mark,
so I got really concerned that if I then gave
her to him, I wouldn't have any real access to
her in the same way that I would have if
(03:04):
it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
That concerned me. Number two, particularly my middle son Lewin
was listening and.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Was so angry at the idea.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
At the idea, He's like, you do not mess with
a person and their dog.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Make all that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And because my boys come and do a house sitting
for me if I go up the coast, so they
are quite particularly the two youngest, Pipes and Lou are
quite attached to the puppies, and he was not having
a bar of it at all. So I would have
a very unhappy child. But the number one thing, and
you can possibly guess what I've decided to do, is
(03:40):
I spoke to a lot of people, and I spoke
to you know, dog behavioralists and stuff, and I think
I'm going to keep her.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And you know, the dog by all.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Means thirteen one oh six y five if you think
this is terribly wrong, but she would have been by
herself on the farm with Mark, and she's a herd
dog and Marley is her companion.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Me like a pack dog.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Just worry that maybe being alone would be worse that
not being able to be frightened of the world.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Are you one hundred percent is still open to advice
because I've organized somebody who would know for sure, Doctor
Chris Brown, our friend and Vett, and he wants to
weigh in on this in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm going to get another dog. More dogs, More dogs
is not the answer. We're going to work out what
we're gonna do with Molly and I yeah, let's see
what what Dr Chris Brown thinks.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So do you want me to say whatever he says?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Are you happy to go with his decision because knowing
that he is going to be completely impartial, is going
to do just what's right for the dog and not
worry about what's right for you with the kids and
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
What's dog?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
What's right for Molly?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Okay, yeah, yes, I think she ultimately has to be
the focus here.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, yeah, but break my little heart. I'll give you.
I'll give you a snapper for a while.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, that's the dog you like the least?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Can I have?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Male don't want?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I'll give you. Then maybe halts for a bit,
because all right, Doctor Chris Brown to weigh in and
make the decision.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Next, an offer came through from a friend of mine's
partner who lives on a farm in the Adelaide Hills,
and said, I will take her and she can have
a great life as a farm dog. But when I
spoke to my sons, my two youngest, who spend a
lot of time with her, they were livid.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Also, I was.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Concerned that my friend Linda and her partner Mike don't
live together, so if it, I kind of keep a
check on it as much as I would want.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How do you get that, old mate, Jesus doing well?
We should talk about that another time.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It's interesting you're a couple that don't live together at whatever,
not having.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well access, But the main reason when I kind of
is that she is a pack animal and Marley, who's
my shit, sou is her best mate. And she won't
be with other dogs when she's on the farm, okay,
and she will have a human, but she won't. I
just feel like if she's okay when she's within our
(06:18):
fence walls, then surely the decision should.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Be to keep her.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So that should be a safe space.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So let's ask a professional.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We have somebody who should be able to give us
a definitive answer, being impartial and just say what's going
to be best for Molly. So that is doctor Chris Brown,
who joins us.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Now, Okay, mate, good, good morning, Hey Robin Cory.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Are you were you in Bristille? Cory said he saw you.
Where were you were in Brisbane on the weekend.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
I may have had a sighting of Corey Oats on
Saturday myself.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
No, I saw you, didn't see me? Where were you?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Okay, it wasn't It wasn't as long for me as
it was for some other papers.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Someone was kicking it out wi.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, all right, sidetrack, side track, okay, back on, back
back to the matter at hand, Dr Chris Brown. So
you've heard you've heard Robin's dilemma about Molly, I have
what what do you think?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Look, I've been for starters. The fact that you're spending
so much time going in so many different directions with
this decision to me says, it's very it's a very
good thing. I mean, kelpies are there. They're tricky dogs.
I've had kelpies most of my life. They have an
attention span that is measured in sort of seconds. They
(07:49):
and from what I saw on Saturday that certainly backs
up that they He needed a leash, he needed some
sort of some sort of calming treat. Impossibly need to
lie down at some at some point, the need to
lie down there, He needed to be rounded up himself.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What about what about Robin's theory that like about being
a pack being used to having the other dogs around,
or the other dog around and needing that.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Yeah, there's kind of like they're constantly in the jobs
queue a kelpie. They're always looking for work, they always
want a task, they need something to occupy their minds,
and they're so easily distracted. So by having another dog
around you at least give them a little bit of
a partner to entertain and to occupy them. So that's
a good thing. Having another dog around, I think for
(08:36):
Molly is a really positive, positive step and so I
think from that point of view it's good. Obviously the
idea of a farm is appealing on face value, but
what dogs need and what they would swap every single toy,
every single possession they've ever had, and probably most of
their truths, not all, but they would swap all of
that for just more time with people. The dogs that
(08:59):
love being with people, and they need to be with
people because it makes them feel part of something, makes
them feel part of a team, and without the team
environment that they just feel a bit lost. And that's
when their mind starts to wander, and that's when they
start to focus on other things, like like the noise,
or like the car starting up down the road, or
like the dog walking past. If they feel like they've
(09:22):
got their their little gang and they're they're they're sort
of part of something bigger than just themselves, they immediately
feel more relaxed. It's when they're by themselves that they
tend to really really struggle and start to create extra
extra work for themselves by you know, chasing things they
shouldn't or barking at things they don't need to. So
(09:42):
that's I mean, on a superficial level, I think it's
good for Molly to be around people, to be around
other dogs, and to be occupied. If you're given the
exercise on top of that, even better if if you're
sort of managing and desensitizing or you know fancy term,
but like counterconditioning against things she's reacting to, like loud
(10:03):
noises or like other dogs, then then you know you're
well on the way and you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Then I should keep her.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
What are you thinking, Well, I think I reckon there's
probably merit in for the time being. I think your
approach is the right one, I really do. I think
keep keeping her and keeping her in that environment where
where she's got that constant contact and constant reassurance a
view being around, or the kids being around, or the
(10:32):
other dog being there, that certainly helps. And let's strike
some things like I can give you some extra ideas
and things to try to manage any anxiety or any stress.
And if you just reached a dead end and you
can't get any you can't get any more improvement, and
she's still struggling, then I think we look at rehoming,
but I think on face value, the fact that we're
(10:55):
even talking about how to make her happy and how
to how to keep her content, I think is a
really really good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just hang on, doctor Chris, We'll get to the news.
Let's record some stuff we can put on a separate podcast,
because I think this will help a whole lot of
other people. And what I will say is Kip and
I have learnt how to corral Corey over the last
eight months, so Molly should be super a dog.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
That's what.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
One of those little citronella colors that just.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I tried, that he loved it when he when he
talks too much. That would be so good
My Heart podcasts, year More Kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
live on the freet.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Robin Kid Now with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So, I know this has been weighing on your mind
a lot, Robin. We spoke about it just over a
week ago.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yeah, a little while back.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm renovating and I've had some friends come up and
help me do some of the renovation. And one of
them is from Adelaide. Her name is Linda and she
brought her partner Mark. Now I have two dogs, Maltese
called Mali and who's a complete princess, and Molly.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Who's a cattle kelpie cross.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now, Molly is terrified of the world outside of our gates, cars, people, dogs, anything.
She is just beside herself. She's very attached to me.
But you know, she's a kelpie cattle cross. She needs
to be able to be walked and run and I
do that every single day, but it's super stressful for her.
So with my friend Linda and her partner markup. Mark
(01:14):
owns a farm in the Adelaide Hills and he suggested
that he could take Molly and let her become his farm.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Dog because it was was Molly hanging out with him.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We loved him, and she doesn't usually like men, so
the fact that she found this guy that she really liked.
There's like a select group of people that'd be my
two sons, my partner, Olivia, and now Mark. Everyone else
she just hates on site.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, so what son doesn't she like?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, no, doesn't really have it. You're about to do
it as well. Not overly concerned.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So when we're talking about this, I asked you guys
for your opinion because it's something that is not that uncommon,
and you know, people are really definite about what they
thought I should do.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
They're our family, and they're our babies and we don't
want to lose them or anything like that. However, she's
a Kelpie cross and she's built for farm work, and
I reckon she'd be much more happier on the farm.
But I bought my eyes yet when I gave her away, she's.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Going to go to the farm. They're a working dog,
they're not really a social dog, and she would be
much happier where she can just run around and not
have to stress. Maybe Molly would be best on the farm,
but maybe do it as a trial see how she
goes see how she attaches and enjoys the area. If
she just falls back into a space again, maybe it's
(02:38):
not the right pit for her.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's pretty much a clean sweep, it was.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Everyone were very very definite about it. So I took
all that on board, and three things have happened and
a decision has been made. Number one is that Linda,
who's my dear girlfriend, doesn't live with her partner Mark,
so I got really concerned that if I then gave
her to him, I wouldn't have any real access to
her in the same way that I would have if
(03:04):
it didn't work.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
That concerned me. Number two, particularly my middle son Lewin
was listening and.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Was so angry at the idea.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
At the idea, He's like, you do not mess with
a person and their dog.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Make all that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And because my boys come and do a house sitting
for me if I go up the coast, so they
are quite particularly the two youngest, Pipes and Lou are
quite attached to the puppies, and he was not having
a bar of it at all. So I would have
a very unhappy child. But the number one thing, and
you can possibly guess what I've decided to do, is
(03:40):
I spoke to a lot of people, and I spoke
to you know, dog behavioralists and stuff, and I think
I'm going to keep her.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And you know, the dog by all.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Means thirteen one oh six y five if you think
this is terribly wrong, but she would have been by
herself on the farm with Mark, and she's a herd
dog and Marley is her companion.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Me like a pack dog.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Just worry that maybe being alone would be worse that
not being able to be frightened of the world.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Are you one hundred percent is still open to advice
because I've organized somebody who would know for sure, Doctor
Chris Brown, our friend and Vett, and he wants to
weigh in on this in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm going to get another dog. More dogs, More dogs
is not the answer. We're going to work out what
we're gonna do with Molly and I yeah, let's see
what what Dr Chris Brown thinks.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
So do you want me to say whatever he says?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Are you happy to go with his decision because knowing
that he is going to be completely impartial, is going
to do just what's right for the dog and not
worry about what's right for you with the kids and
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
What's dog?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
What's right for Molly?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Okay, yeah, yes, I think she ultimately has to be
the focus here.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, yeah, but break my little heart. I'll give you.
I'll give you a snapper for a while.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, that's the dog you like the least?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Can I have?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Male don't want?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I'll give you. Then maybe halts for a bit,
because all right, Doctor Chris Brown to weigh in and
make the decision.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Next, an offer came through from a friend of mine's
partner who lives on a farm in the Adelaide Hills,
and said, I will take her and she can have
a great life as a farm dog. But when I
spoke to my sons, my two youngest, who spend a
lot of time with her, they were livid.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Also, I was.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Concerned that my friend Linda and her partner Mike don't
live together, so if it, I kind of keep a
check on it as much as I would want.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How do you get that, old mate, Jesus doing well?
We should talk about that another time.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
It's interesting you're a couple that don't live together at whatever,
not having.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well access, But the main reason when I kind of
is that she is a pack animal and Marley, who's
my shit, sou is her best mate. And she won't
be with other dogs when she's on the farm, okay,
and she will have a human, but she won't. I
just feel like if she's okay when she's within our
(06:18):
fence walls, then surely the decision should.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Be to keep her.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So that should be a safe space.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So let's ask a professional.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We have somebody who should be able to give us
a definitive answer, being impartial and just say what's going
to be best for Molly. So that is doctor Chris Brown,
who joins us.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Now, Okay, mate, good, good morning, Hey Robin Cory.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Are you were you in Bristille? Cory said he saw you.
Where were you were in Brisbane on the weekend.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
I may have had a sighting of Corey Oats on
Saturday myself.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
No, I saw you, didn't see me? Where were you?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Okay, it wasn't It wasn't as long for me as
it was for some other papers.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Someone was kicking it out wi.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, all right, sidetrack, side track, okay, back on, back
back to the matter at hand, Dr Chris Brown. So
you've heard you've heard Robin's dilemma about Molly, I have
what what do you think?
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Look, I've been for starters. The fact that you're spending
so much time going in so many different directions with
this decision to me says, it's very it's a very
good thing. I mean, kelpies are there. They're tricky dogs.
I've had kelpies most of my life. They have an
attention span that is measured in sort of seconds. They
(07:49):
and from what I saw on Saturday that certainly backs
up that they He needed a leash, he needed some
sort of some sort of calming treat. Impossibly need to
lie down at some at some point, the need to
lie down there, He needed to be rounded up himself.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
What about what about Robin's theory that like about being
a pack being used to having the other dogs around,
or the other dog around and needing that.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Yeah, there's kind of like they're constantly in the jobs
queue a kelpie. They're always looking for work, they always
want a task, they need something to occupy their minds,
and they're so easily distracted. So by having another dog
around you at least give them a little bit of
a partner to entertain and to occupy them. So that's
a good thing. Having another dog around, I think for
(08:36):
Molly is a really positive, positive step and so I
think from that point of view it's good. Obviously the
idea of a farm is appealing on face value, but
what dogs need and what they would swap every single toy,
every single possession they've ever had, and probably most of
their truths, not all, but they would swap all of
that for just more time with people. The dogs that
(08:59):
love being with people, and they need to be with
people because it makes them feel part of something, makes
them feel part of a team, and without the team
environment that they just feel a bit lost. And that's
when their mind starts to wander, and that's when they
start to focus on other things, like like the noise,
or like the car starting up down the road, or
like the dog walking past. If they feel like they've
(09:22):
got their their little gang and they're they're they're sort
of part of something bigger than just themselves, they immediately
feel more relaxed. It's when they're by themselves that they
tend to really really struggle and start to create extra
extra work for themselves by you know, chasing things they
shouldn't or barking at things they don't need to. So
(09:42):
that's I mean, on a superficial level, I think it's
good for Molly to be around people, to be around
other dogs, and to be occupied. If you're given the
exercise on top of that, even better if if you're
sort of managing and desensitizing or you know fancy term,
but like counterconditioning against things she's reacting to, like loud
(10:03):
noises or like other dogs, then then you know you're
well on the way and you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Then I should keep her.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
What are you thinking, Well, I think I reckon there's
probably merit in for the time being. I think your
approach is the right one, I really do. I think
keep keeping her and keeping her in that environment where
where she's got that constant contact and constant reassurance a
view being around, or the kids being around, or the
(10:32):
other dog being there, that certainly helps. And let's strike
some things like I can give you some extra ideas
and things to try to manage any anxiety or any stress.
And if you just reached a dead end and you
can't get any you can't get any more improvement, and
she's still struggling, then I think we look at rehoming,
but I think on face value, the fact that we're
(10:55):
even talking about how to make her happy and how
to how to keep her content, I think is a
really really good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just hang on, doctor Chris, We'll get to the news.
Let's record some stuff we can put on a separate podcast,
because I think this will help a whole lot of
other people. And what I will say is Kip and
I have learnt how to corral Corey over the last
eight months, so Molly should be super a dog.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
That's what.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
One of those little citronella colors that just.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I tried, that he loved it when he when he
talks too much. That would be so good
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