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Speaker 1 (00:12):
My Heart podcasts, year more Kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the freet.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Robin Kidd Now with Correos the podcast. So, I know
this has been weighing on your mind a lot, Robin.
We spoke about it just over a week ago.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, a little while back. I'm renovating and I've had
some friends come up and help me do some of
the renovation. And one of them is from Adelaide. Her
name is Linda and she brought her partner Mark. Now
I have two dogs, Maltese called Mali and who's a
complete princess, and Molly, who's a cattle kelpie cross. Now,
(00:52):
Molly is terrified of the world outside of our gates, cars, people, dogs, anything.
She is just beside herself. She's very attached to me,
but you know, she's a kelpie cattle cross. She needs
to be able to be walked and run and I
do that every single day, but it's super stressful for her.
So with my friend Linda and her partner markup. Mark
(01:14):
owns a farm in the Adelaide Hills and he suggested
that he could take Molly and let her become his farm.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Dog because it was was Molly hanging out with him.
We love doing the bid.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Loved him and she doesn't usually like men. So the
fact that she found this guy that she really liked.
There's like a select group of people that'd be my
two sons, my partner, Olivia, and now Mark. Everyone else
she just hates on site.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, so what son doesn't she like?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, no, Fel doesn't really have it. You're about to
do it as well. Not overly concerned. So when we're
talking about this, I asked you guys for your opinion
because it's something that is not that uncommon, and you know,
people are really definite about what they thought I should do.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
They're our family, and they're our babies and we don't
want to lose them or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
However, she's a Kelpie cross and she's built for farm work,
and I.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Reckon she'd be much more happier on the farm. But
I bought my eyes. Yet when I gave her away.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
She's got to go to the farm. They're a working dog,
they're not really a social dog, and she would be
much happier where she can just run around and not
have to stress. Maybe Molly would be best on the farm,
but maybe do it as a trial. See how she goes,
see how she attaches and enjoys the area. If she
just falls back into a space again, maybe it's not
(02:38):
the right pit for her.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's pretty much a clean sweep.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Everyone were very very definite about it. So I took
all that on board, and three things have happened and
a decision has been made. Number one is that Linda,
who's my dear girlfriend, doesn't live with her partner Mark,
So I got really concerned that if I then gave
her to him, I wouldn't have any real access to
her in the same way that I would have if
(03:04):
it didn't work. That concerned me. Number two, particularly my
middle son Lewin was listening and was so angry at
the idea. At the idea, He's like, you do not
mess with a person and their dog.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Make all that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And because my boys come and do house sitting for
me if I go up the coast, so they are
quite particularly the two youngest, Pipes and Lou are quite
attached to the puppies, and he was not having a
bar of it at all. So I would have a
very unhappy child. But the number one thing, and you
can possibly guess what I've decided to do. Is I
(03:40):
spoke to a lot of people, and I spoke to
you know, dog behavioralists and stuff, and I think I'm
going to keep her and dog by all means thirteen
one oh six y five if you think this is
terribly wrong, but she would have been by herself on
the farm with Mark, and she's a herd dog and
(04:00):
Marley is her companion.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You me like a pack dog.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Just worry that maybe being alone would be worse that
not being able to be frightened of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Are you one hundred percent is still open to advice
because I've organized somebody who would know for sure. Dr
Chris Brown our friend and Vett and he wants to
weigh in on this in a couple of minutes. Are
going to get another dog?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
More dogs?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
More dogs is not the answer. We're going to work
out what we're gonna do with Molly and I. Yeah,
let's see what what Dr Chris Brown thinks.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So do you want me to say whatever he says?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are you happy to go with his decision because knowing
that he is going to be completely impartial, is going
to do just what's right for the dog and not
worry about what's right for you with the kids and
blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
What dog?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What's right for Molly?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay, yeah, yes, I think she ultimately has to be
the focus here. Okay, yeah, but break my little heart.
I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'll give you a snapper for a while.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, that's the dog you like the least? Can I have?
Male don't want? Yeah, I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Then maybe hearts for a bit, because all right, Doctor
Chris Brown to weigh in and make the decision.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Next, an offer came through from a friend of mine's
partner who lives on a farm in the Adelaide Hills,
and said, I will take her and she can have
a great life as a farm dog. But when I
spoke to my sons, my two youngest, who spend a
lot of time with her, they were livid. Also, I
was concerned that my friend Linda and her partner Mike
don't live together, So if it, I kind of keep
(05:46):
a check on it as much as I would want you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How do you get that, old mate Jesus doing well?
We should talk about that another time. It's interesting you're
a couple that don't live together, about whatever, not having well.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Access, but The main reason when I kind of is
that she is a pack animal and Marley, who's my
shit sou is her best mate. And she won't be
with other dogs when she's on the farm, okay, and
she will have a human, but she won't. I just
feel like if she's okay when she's within our fence walls,
(06:18):
then surely the decision should be to keep her.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So that should be a safe space.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So let's ask a professional.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We have somebody who should be able to give us
a definitive answer, being impartial and just say what's going
to be best for Molly. So that is doctor Chris Brown,
who joins us.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Now, okay, mate, good, good morning, Hey Robin Cory.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Are you were you in Bristille? Cory said he saw you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Where were you were in Brisbane on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I may have had a sighting of Corey Oats on
Saturday myself.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I saw you, didn't see me?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Where were you?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Okay, it wasn't It wasn't as long for me as
it was for some other papers.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Someone was kicking it out wi Okay, all right, sidetrack
side track, okay, back on, back back to the matter
at hand, Dr Chris Brown. So you've heard, you've heard
Robin's dilemma about Molly, I have what what do you think?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Look, I've been for starters. The fact that you're spending
so much time going in so many different directions with
this decision to me says, it's very it's a very
good thing. I mean, kelpies are there. They're tricky dogs.
I've had kelpies most of my life. They have an
attention span that is measured in sort of seconds. They
(07:49):
and from what I saw on Saturday, that certainly backs
up that he needed a leash, He needed some sort
of some sort of calming treat. Impossibly need to lie
down at some at some point, the need to lie
down there, He needed to be rounded up himself.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What about what about Robin's theory that like about being
a pack being used to having the other dogs around,
or the other dog around and needing that.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, there's kind of like they're constantly in the jobs
queue a kelpie. They're always looking for work, they always
want a task, they need something to occupy their minds,
and they're so easily distracted. So by having another dog
around you at least give them a little bit of
a partner to entertain and to occupy them. So that's
a good thing. Having another dog around, I think for
(08:36):
Molly is a really positive, positive step and so I
think from that point of view it's good. Obviously the
idea of a farm is appealing on face value, but
what dogs need and what they would swap every single toy,
every single possession they've ever had, and probably most of
their truths, not all, but they would swap all of
that for just more time with people. So the dogs
(08:58):
that love being with people and they need to be
with people because it makes them feel part of something,
makes them feel part of a team, and without the
team environment that they just feel a bit lost. And
that's when their mind starts to wander, and that's when
they start to focus on other things, like like the noise,
or like the car starting up down the road, or
(09:18):
like the dog walking past. If they feel like they've
got their their little gang and they're they're they're sort
of part of something bigger than just themselves, they immediately
feel more relaxed. It's when they're by themselves that they
tend to really really struggle and start to create extra
extra work for themselves by you know, chasing things. They
(09:39):
shouldn't or barking at things they don't need to. So
that's I mean, on a superficial level, I think it's
good for Molly to be around people, to be around
other dogs, and to be occupied if you're given the
exercise on top of that, even better if if you're
sort of managing and desensitizing or you know, fancy term,
(09:59):
but like counterconditioning against things she's reacting to, like loud
noises or like other dogs, then then you know you're
you're well on the way and you're doing a good thing.
Then I should keep her. What are you thinking, Well,
I think I reckon there's probably merit in for the
time being. I think your approach is the right one,
(10:20):
I really do. I think keep keeping her and keeping
her in that environment where where she's got that constant
contact and constant reassurance a view being around or the
kids being around, or the other dog being there, that
that certainly helps. And let's strike some things like I
can give you some extra ideas and things to try
(10:40):
to manage any anxiety or any stress. And if you
just reached a dead end and you can't get any
you can't get any more improvement and she's still struggling.
Then I think we look at rehoming. But I think
on face value, the fact that we're even talking about
how to make her happy and how to how to
keep her content, I think is a really really good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just hang on, doctor Chris, We'll get to the news.
Let's record some stuff we can put on a separate podcast,
because I think this will help a whole lot of
other people. And what I will say is Kip and
I have learnt how to corral Corey over the last
eight months, So Molly should be so bad a dog,
that's what little.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
One of those little citronella colors that just.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I tried that dog and he loved it. When when
he talks too much, that would be so good, litt
My Heart podcasts, year more Kiss podcasts, playlists and listen
live on the freet.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Robin Kidd Now with Correos the podcast. So, I know
this has been weighing on your mind a lot, Robin.
We spoke about it just over a week ago.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, a little while back. I'm renovating and I've had
some friends come up and help me do some of
the renovation. And one of them is from Adelaide. Her
name is Linda and she brought her partner Mark. Now
I have two dogs, Maltese called Mali and who's a
complete princess, and Molly, who's a cattle kelpie cross. Now,
(00:52):
Molly is terrified of the world outside of our gates, cars, people, dogs, anything.
She is just beside herself. She's very attached to me,
but you know, she's a kelpie cattle cross. She needs
to be able to be walked and run and I
do that every single day, but it's super stressful for her.
So with my friend Linda and her partner markup. Mark
(01:14):
owns a farm in the Adelaide Hills and he suggested
that he could take Molly and let her become his farm.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Dog because it was was Molly hanging out with him.
We love doing the bid.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Loved him and she doesn't usually like men. So the
fact that she found this guy that she really liked.
There's like a select group of people that'd be my
two sons, my partner, Olivia, and now Mark. Everyone else
she just hates on site.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, so what son doesn't she like?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, no, Fel doesn't really have it. You're about to
do it as well. Not overly concerned. So when we're
talking about this, I asked you guys for your opinion
because it's something that is not that uncommon, and you know,
people are really definite about what they thought I should do.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
They're our family, and they're our babies and we don't
want to lose them or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
However, she's a Kelpie cross and she's built for farm work,
and I.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Reckon she'd be much more happier on the farm. But
I bought my eyes. Yet when I gave her away.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
She's got to go to the farm. They're a working dog,
they're not really a social dog, and she would be
much happier where she can just run around and not
have to stress. Maybe Molly would be best on the farm,
but maybe do it as a trial. See how she goes,
see how she attaches and enjoys the area. If she
just falls back into a space again, maybe it's not
(02:38):
the right pit for her.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's pretty much a clean sweep.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It was.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Everyone were very very definite about it. So I took
all that on board, and three things have happened and
a decision has been made. Number one is that Linda,
who's my dear girlfriend, doesn't live with her partner Mark,
So I got really concerned that if I then gave
her to him, I wouldn't have any real access to
her in the same way that I would have if
(03:04):
it didn't work. That concerned me. Number two, particularly my
middle son Lewin was listening and was so angry at
the idea. At the idea, He's like, you do not
mess with a person and their dog.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Make all that.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And because my boys come and do house sitting for
me if I go up the coast, so they are
quite particularly the two youngest, Pipes and Lou are quite
attached to the puppies, and he was not having a
bar of it at all. So I would have a
very unhappy child. But the number one thing, and you
can possibly guess what I've decided to do. Is I
(03:40):
spoke to a lot of people, and I spoke to
you know, dog behavioralists and stuff, and I think I'm
going to keep her and dog by all means thirteen
one oh six y five if you think this is
terribly wrong, but she would have been by herself on
the farm with Mark, and she's a herd dog and
(04:00):
Marley is her companion.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You me like a pack dog.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Just worry that maybe being alone would be worse that
not being able to be frightened of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Are you one hundred percent is still open to advice
because I've organized somebody who would know for sure. Dr
Chris Brown our friend and Vett and he wants to
weigh in on this in a couple of minutes. Are
going to get another dog?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
More dogs?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
More dogs is not the answer. We're going to work
out what we're gonna do with Molly and I. Yeah,
let's see what what Dr Chris Brown thinks.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So do you want me to say whatever he says?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are you happy to go with his decision because knowing
that he is going to be completely impartial, is going
to do just what's right for the dog and not
worry about what's right for you with the kids and
blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
What dog?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
What's right for Molly?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay, yeah, yes, I think she ultimately has to be
the focus here. Okay, yeah, but break my little heart.
I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'll give you a snapper for a while.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay, that's the dog you like the least? Can I have?
Male don't want? Yeah, I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Then maybe hearts for a bit, because all right, Doctor
Chris Brown to weigh in and make the decision.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Next, an offer came through from a friend of mine's
partner who lives on a farm in the Adelaide Hills,
and said, I will take her and she can have
a great life as a farm dog. But when I
spoke to my sons, my two youngest, who spend a
lot of time with her, they were livid. Also, I
was concerned that my friend Linda and her partner Mike
don't live together, So if it, I kind of keep
(05:46):
a check on it as much as I would want you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
How do you get that, old mate Jesus doing well?
We should talk about that another time. It's interesting you're
a couple that don't live together, about whatever, not having well.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Access, but The main reason when I kind of is
that she is a pack animal and Marley, who's my
shit sou is her best mate. And she won't be
with other dogs when she's on the farm, okay, and
she will have a human, but she won't. I just
feel like if she's okay when she's within our fence walls,
(06:18):
then surely the decision should be to keep her.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So that should be a safe space.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So let's ask a professional.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We have somebody who should be able to give us
a definitive answer, being impartial and just say what's going
to be best for Molly. So that is doctor Chris Brown,
who joins us.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Now, okay, mate, good, good morning, Hey Robin Cory.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Are you were you in Bristille? Cory said he saw you.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Where were you were in Brisbane on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I may have had a sighting of Corey Oats on
Saturday myself.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I saw you, didn't see me?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Where were you?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Okay, it wasn't It wasn't as long for me as
it was for some other papers.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Someone was kicking it out wi Okay, all right, sidetrack
side track, okay, back on, back back to the matter
at hand, Dr Chris Brown. So you've heard, you've heard
Robin's dilemma about Molly, I have what what do you think?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Look, I've been for starters. The fact that you're spending
so much time going in so many different directions with
this decision to me says, it's very it's a very
good thing. I mean, kelpies are there. They're tricky dogs.
I've had kelpies most of my life. They have an
attention span that is measured in sort of seconds. They
(07:49):
and from what I saw on Saturday, that certainly backs
up that he needed a leash, He needed some sort
of some sort of calming treat. Impossibly need to lie
down at some at some point, the need to lie
down there, He needed to be rounded up himself.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
What about what about Robin's theory that like about being
a pack being used to having the other dogs around,
or the other dog around and needing that.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Yeah, there's kind of like they're constantly in the jobs
queue a kelpie. They're always looking for work, they always
want a task, they need something to occupy their minds,
and they're so easily distracted. So by having another dog
around you at least give them a little bit of
a partner to entertain and to occupy them. So that's
a good thing. Having another dog around, I think for
(08:36):
Molly is a really positive, positive step and so I
think from that point of view it's good. Obviously the
idea of a farm is appealing on face value, but
what dogs need and what they would swap every single toy,
every single possession they've ever had, and probably most of
their truths, not all, but they would swap all of
that for just more time with people. So the dogs
(08:58):
that love being with people and they need to be
with people because it makes them feel part of something,
makes them feel part of a team, and without the
team environment that they just feel a bit lost. And
that's when their mind starts to wander, and that's when
they start to focus on other things, like like the noise,
or like the car starting up down the road, or
(09:18):
like the dog walking past. If they feel like they've
got their their little gang and they're they're they're sort
of part of something bigger than just themselves, they immediately
feel more relaxed. It's when they're by themselves that they
tend to really really struggle and start to create extra
extra work for themselves by you know, chasing things. They
(09:39):
shouldn't or barking at things they don't need to. So
that's I mean, on a superficial level, I think it's
good for Molly to be around people, to be around
other dogs, and to be occupied if you're given the
exercise on top of that, even better if if you're
sort of managing and desensitizing or you know, fancy term,
(09:59):
but like counterconditioning against things she's reacting to, like loud
noises or like other dogs, then then you know you're
you're well on the way and you're doing a good thing.
Then I should keep her. What are you thinking, Well,
I think I reckon there's probably merit in for the
time being. I think your approach is the right one,
(10:20):
I really do. I think keep keeping her and keeping
her in that environment where where she's got that constant
contact and constant reassurance a view being around or the
kids being around, or the other dog being there, that
that certainly helps. And let's strike some things like I
can give you some extra ideas and things to try
(10:40):
to manage any anxiety or any stress. And if you
just reached a dead end and you can't get any
you can't get any more improvement and she's still struggling.
Then I think we look at rehoming. But I think
on face value, the fact that we're even talking about
how to make her happy and how to how to
keep her content, I think is a really really good thing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Just hang on, doctor Chris, We'll get to the news.
Let's record some stuff we can put on a separate podcast,
because I think this will help a whole lot of
other people. And what I will say is Kip and
I have learnt how to corral Corey over the last
eight months, So Molly should be so bad a dog,
that's what little.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
One of those little citronella colors that just.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I tried that dog and he loved it. When when
he talks too much, that would be so good, litt
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