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August 20, 2025 6 mins

After a listener confessed to being into BDSM and cheating on her partners to get her fix, we opened the phone lines for others to share their own reasons for lying in relationships.

Jack called in to reveal he had been cheating on his wife with other men. At a time when being gay was still illegal, Jack’s story is one that many can relate to, a powerful reminder of the hidden struggles people endured just to be themselves.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We are talking adult themes because yesterday we had a
confession for cash from April who told us that she
was into BDSM. It was her kink and she's been
hiding it from all of her previous partners and cheating
on them.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And she's now got this situation. I highly recommend going
and listening to this on the podcast because she now
wants to have a baby and that is its own thing,
isn't it? Yeah? But what have you not been honest
in your relationship?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
And does it work?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jack of Springwood, Hello, good.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Morning, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
What's your confession?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Right? Well, I'm almost on late fifties. I got married
at twenty one and I've been living a split life
the entire time, the entire time. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, So what's so you've got You're married?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Is it with a fil I was married?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm not married, Okay, okay, so this is in the past.
But you had a did you have a family?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah? Three three kids? Three kids, and so I got grandkids.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
And what was the split life? What was happening on
the other side.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I was totally in love, married, had businesses, had
an entire world with a wife and three children, very successful.
But the entire time I was in I was married,
I was also leading a gay life.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh wow, really, why what?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Why keep that hidden?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I think now that I'm older, and oh God, I'm
going to get emotional and I've learned what I've learned
throughout my life my era and I was from an
area you weren't allowed to be gay, and I didn't
want to be gay. I wanted a life. I wanted kids,
I wanted to pick it scenes, I wanted the aw

(02:20):
some home life which I had. I had the world
at my feet, but I also had this underlying thin
that I was gay and I couldn't couldn't stop that.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah wow, you just didn't feel like you're going to
be accepted.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, not at all. I mean I was through an
era where and from an area you could have been
arrested for being gay. So what happened? Jack?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
When did all that kind of Because are you living
as a gay man now?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yep, living in a same sex couple have done for
the last ten years. Were separatives twelve years ago. And yep,
my wife and I separated twelve years ago. I told
the kids ten years ago, and I've been living with
my partner for eleven years.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
And how are your kids going with it?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Amazing? Yeah, they were incredible. Probably the hardest one was
my daughter. But my two sons fantastic. But my daughter's
fantastic now too. They're great. So now I've got two
grandsons and they've got two poppies.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
How do you think now, reflecting back on the fact
that you lived this double life for so long, I.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Thought it was quite selfish in hindsight, because it was
my wife that made me come out to the kids.
We separated and I was living with a mate. I
actually lived under the same roof with my eldest son.
With my mate, we shared quite a large house and

(04:01):
did he have a clue on didn't have a clue. Basically,
we took it in turns who got the master bedroom
each time we moved and lived somewhere renting. So at
this particular time, when my partner moved in, we took
the back end of the house and we had four
bedrooms at the back of the house, and he got
the master bedroom. With beyond sweet. So he didn't care

(04:24):
bathroom and I lived that entire life the entire time.
So I had my room, my partner had his room.
The sheets got changed every week, blah blah blah, but
the second room never got slept in. How is your
ex wife with it all? She's really good. She actually

(04:45):
said to me, you have to be blind man, Freddie
to see that you two aren't mates, So you don't
You owe it to your kids to be honest. And
that was a tough night, but I sat them down
and told them.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, but it would have released a lot, you know,
you would.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Have Yeah, God, you and I mean, we don't talk
about being out on not out or anything. I mean,
it's just that's that's not a major part of my world.
It's just who I am now, which is fantastic. And
I think for me living openly and honestly now that
I know, oh God, sorry that I know, my kids,

(05:26):
grandkids and anyone else coming up now will never ever
have to go through what I went through.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Jack, You are so brave. Thank you so much. We
don't we never know who's listening to this, but I
guarantee you, my friend, that your story has motivated someone
to find their own truth in their own life. And
thank you so much for calling and telling us. And hey,

(05:53):
do you want to go to Guy Sebastian.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I love.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yes, We've got to double past year seeing Live. Okay,
thank you to take your mate. Award winning Guy Sebastian
bringing his hundred Times Round the Sun all ages to
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(06:19):
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