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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Live on the free iHeart app, rob and Kids Now
with Correos the podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
One of the hottest shows on Netflix at the moment,
which we need to talk about is Fit for TV
The Biggest Loser documentary, which is all about the American
version of The Biggest Loser, which seems very similar really
to ours.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think they started it and
they have got franchised all over the world. I mean,
it is a show that could not be made now,
don't you reckon.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
If they try to make it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, you could not have The Biggest Loser made.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
If you don't know what we're talking about, here's the trailer.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh my lie, what have been the biggest littles of work?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Work?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
They being on the Vegas lousion is just like winning
the lattery.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Whoever loses the most weight wins two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. To see us in a gym yelling screaming,
that's good good TV. This is what America thinks is
healthy and thief. We were not looking for people who
were overweight and happy. I'm a secret eder. We were
looking for people who were overweat I'm unhappy.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Do you think the reason why I can't do it
now is the name? But also like the I don't
know how to say it, like just a certain activity
I know you would call it, but the certain activities
they did during it.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Was like some of the the trainers yelling in the faces.
I think we've got some of that just.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Greeting her outfit. She comes in with a great smile
and she wants to cut your heart out.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Day every day like that. That was Jillian Michaels, who,
by the way, is now sewing. Is she she wasn't on. Yeah,
she said that she didn't want to be a part
of it, and now she is suing the documentary series
for sort of wrongfully.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It does make it really bad.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
She does look bad in it because she she screams
in their face. She's like think once one stage she
said to some I will destroy you like you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Do you think that's the reason. Why not the actual
outcome of or what some of them actually got to
achieve while they're in there, like the weight loss and
the and the bodies.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, so this is my question to you. When you
watched it, who did you feel bad for Did you
feel bad for the contestants?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Not necessarily because they chose they knew the show. Most
of them knew the show and chose to be on it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like you've watched it, and then as seasons ago and
you watch it, you see more and more and more
and and like that. I don't think the trainer has changed, Like,
I don't believe they changed at all during the during
the series, like you knew how much they were going
to get into your house, they going to yell, let yeah,
what you're going to be doing.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So in Australia they actually ramped the trainers up when
you think about it, like they went to the Commando
like they they got people that were even madder, you
know as they went along. The only thing I reckon,
the big challenge that I had with the show and
seeing it was the the temptation that yeah, when they
just like, here we go, We're just going to put
all this disgusting junk food in front of you guys
(03:15):
and see if you can stand it, and then they
would encourage you to eat so you could see your
family and the kid's pretty gross.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
The contestant said, that's not a real life scenario. And
I mean I sat there and went, well, it kind
of views temptation is everywhere, not like that, like not
like a room full of folks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean it's like Maps, right that every year Maps contestants
come out saying that they've been edited badly, got the
Franco edit where they put grabs together to mean something
(03:42):
entirely different different. It's like to me the first season
of Biggest Loser or the first season of Maps, when
you had no idea and it was a reality television show.
All power to the contestants after that, you know what
it is, but the desperation of our society to lose weight,
it just feels a little bit more prickly in some way.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
My one thing that I didn't like, and it was
in the first episode, you said towards the end, it
was they'll make it like like sort of sound effects
or the camera shake like they're falling off things or
stepping over and or you know, failing to do something.
And this is what one of the contestants said from
the American one.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
People like making fun of bad people.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's just for THEO.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
That was the first time I ever felt that tinge
of what Loser meant, are you trying to make me
look like a loser?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Because she was like a reasonably confident woman that one
speaking and then was like, oh wait a minute, well yeah,
oh wait a minute. You guys are making us look
like you want to laugh at Fatty's here. That's what
you're trying to do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Part of the reason why is that everyone sat in
their lounge rooms, which is also what one of the
contestants said, and looked at those challenges and when I
could do better, That's why he wanted to get on
the Biggest Loser. Yeah, but you know he finished the series.
There's only three yeps. It's quite easy, if not disturbing,
to watch. But they finished it with a graphic that
came up and it said, in two thousand and four,
when the Biggest Loser premiere, thirty two percent of American
(05:14):
adults were obese. In twenty twenty five, that number has
climbed to forty five percent.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's nearly one in two wow.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Wow Wow. So since then, since.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Then, so between two thousand and twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Five, and we're so much more aware, you know, I
feel like I feel like people know nutrition more than
they've ever known it. They know the value of exercise
and all those things. We know more than we've ever known.
And yet somehow, because I think Australia is probably on
the same trajectory Trogany jectory.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, we are. We per capita population, we are the
firtestination in the.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
World that's just come out this year.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But let me ask you this, and I'm not comparing
you to a Biggest Loser contestant at all. I'm only
saying that this is something that you have struggled with
on the show for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yes, in my life, in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Right, So you say that we all know how to
do it, yes, and yet we don't.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I don't. No, I feel like there's more of
an obsession about it than ever before. Yea, I wish
that's a million dollar question if I knew the answer
to it to why how it is that we all
know what we should be eating and how much we
should be exercising and yet don't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Because that's what I'm saying, that's the devil on your
show to every day?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah what I know of you? Yeah, yeah, So what's.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
The answer to that? I mean, if it's not shows
like you know, like I struggle to understand, and yet
you're the elite athlete who doesn't.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Well.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
For me, it was different, like the yelling the trainers.
I had all that when I was first well, I
got my whole career, but at the start, I remember
it very clear, and training was so hard and I
hated running, I hated fitness. I just like playing footy
and I didn't know all that stuff came. I quit
twice because it was too hard and I was sick
(07:03):
of people yelling at me, and you know I was.
I really did struggle, and it wasn't until Wayne Bennett
told me one day that to stop talking for a week.
I don't want to hear wins. If you wine, everyone
Ilse cops it. And it was purely just to show
me that my mind was the one telling me I
couldn't do it. I was weak.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And so you think the yelling at is okay.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, when you get when you when you just focus
on the actual, the objective ahead, like you know the
challenge that they set. You may not get it perfectly,
but you're doing way better than what you did. When
you're winging the whole time and am crying about it
because I learned so much from that guy, just from that,
from not winging for a week, I went from I
(07:47):
hated it, I hated running. Yeah, But then after that
week of not whinging and understanding what he meant and
how much I fit I got just in a week.
I was like, Holy, that's all it was. It was
just my brain telling me that I wasn't strong enough
or fit enough or good enough to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well. The good news is we're going to be chatting
with one of the Australian trainers in Shannon Ponting. Great bloke.
I wonder how he feels about watching the show.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And whether he thinks he you know, because they yelled
him and Michelle Bridges absolutely did, does he regret anything?
And also, guys thirteen one oh six y five, if
you've seen it, I mean that whole I think they're
yelling and they're really abusive. It was verging on yeah,
And you know, Corey, you're saying that's what motivated you and.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Maybe it's what they needed. Yeah. Thirteen one oh sixty five.
Let's talk to Shannon right after news next talking about
Fit for TV the Biggest Loser doco, Whi's on Netflix
right now, and we're joined by Australian trainer Shannon Ponton. Hey,
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Shannon Pleasure. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Cheers mate.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Now the Biggest Losers back in the news. Have you
seen the doco yet on Netflix?
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I'll watch it on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Okay, Oh my god, what did you think?
Speaker 5 (08:58):
It was everything that I thought it was going to be.
It was exactly what I thought. You know, people put
way back on looking for I guess, a way out
to take responsibility from where they're at. With that said,
I think weight loss in the world has changed a
lot in the last twenty years, and I think, you know,
(09:19):
there is probably merit in some of the points that
the ex contestants had as far as it, they probably
could have benefited a lot from posts and post show
and psychology or post show help in that area. In
the mental side, I think the best analogy I can
draw is people go to na an AA to beat
(09:41):
the demon Booze for a lifetime, and in that time
it sort of vacillates. They go on and off and
on and off, but need that constant support from groups
like Alcoholics Anonymous to keep the demon at bay. And
I think the same thing happens with our contestants. There's
an addictive nature to their personality.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
So you weren't surprised at all to see so many
of them put the weight back on.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
No, disappointed, but not surprised. It's not a flaw in
the system. I mean, that's I think what people are
looking for as a flaw in the system. The system
and the methods that we provided to the contestants. Still
to this day, I still believe in you know, for
me first, where I was never told to do anything,
I was never anybody's puppet. Everything that I did on
(10:25):
the show, I did with the best intent and to
try and get the best possible results for the contestants. Shannon.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know, though, like Bob and Jilly and the American
version of you and Michelle were pretty full on, and
you and Michelle certainly had your moments where you were
pushing and yelling, and that's been one of the things
that's come up in this doco. Do you feel guilty?
Is there anything you regret about the way that you
(10:53):
did it?
Speaker 5 (10:54):
No, not at all. That's what I just said, Rob,
I was nobody's puppet, and everything I did was done
with the pure heart and of course there are times
where you become frustrated, and there's times that you know
the boys know, even at an elite level, because some
of the things that came out in the documentary, I
found what's fascinating where people were saying, Oh, you're just
belitting these people because they're fat. You're making a show
(11:14):
on them because they're fat, and it's not true that
that's how trainers and coaches are in their primal state.
And the boys will know that there was nobody really
with weight issues in theby league. But when your trainer
is cranky with you, he's going to tell you in
no uncertain terms that he's cranky with you, and it's
usually due to a lack of performance or a lack
of reaching your potential. It doesn't matter if it doesn't
(11:37):
matter if you're one hundred and ten kilo regul league
player with a body fat of seven percent, it's got
nothing to do with weight. It's just to do with
lack of lack of performance and lack of effort.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So you must have known, my lexuscan know that you
really are.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Hypothetically, do you feel like our show was that different
to the one that they're portraying on Netflix. Do you
feel like the Australian version was a soft version or
is it just is it pretty much spot on?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
No?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I think well, we're obviously different people and each to
each to our own and you know, as far as
caffeine tablets and stuff like that, we never had any
input into the supplements or anything that the contestants took,
and that was all monitored by production and the medical
team that we had in place. So I'm glad that
we can take a step back away from that. Yeah,
(12:30):
other than that, you know, my methods than my methods.
Bob has his, and Jillian obviously has hers, and you know,
I'm still back on the tool of personal training and
teaching today, and it's still the same methods that I imply.
My clients are still on twelve hundred calories a day
to lose weight, and then they get a fifteen hundred
calories a day for maintenance, and that's all being checked
off by a dietitian. And at that range, if they're
(12:52):
correcting eating the correct types of food, you can reach
one hundred percent of the rdies that you need. So
it's still a very safe way to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And we know you've got a really busy David. Thank
you so much for joining us quickly. Thanks ny I
love you.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Thanks you very much. Guys,