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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I heard podcasts year more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen live.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On the freeheart app.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now with Coos the podcast. Okay, I just sell this
in our text line. It's from Mel of Karendale. She said, Hey, guys,
I don't know if you've seen the news, but I've
just seen and heard that teachers may be striking again
and knocked back one hundred k pay guarantee from the government.
She's gone on to.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Say, what the Now.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We've managed to track Mel of Karendale down and she
is willing to just talk to us. But Alana, what
is your headline?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
So the teachers are planning to strike again, So State
school teachers, the union, they've voted on the latest payoffer
they got from the state government and they've voted it down.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
So what I heard about the offer is that that's
the minimum, the worst that like every teacher is going
to be one hundred thousand dollars at least, and then
if you've become a principle or whatever, you can be
a couple hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, there's a lot of layers to it. I guess
the main headline of the pay deal was that there'd
be an eight percent wage increase over three years, which
meant that every current teacher in the classroom would be
over one hundred grand by the end of it. But
I think the main thing has been conditions, you know,
like all the extra stuff that teachers do outside the lines,
right of what that means. So, yeah, there's a lot
(01:35):
in the weeds of it, But I think the conditions
have been the main thing this whole time, because teachers
do a lot of work outside the ninety five. It's
not nine to five, is it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
No, Well, thank you for contacting us, mell and.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Thank you for taking a call. Was sure that you
would actually do this, bravery?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, what is it that you think?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Look, honestly, I just think that it's ridiculous. So they've
knocked back one hundred thousand dollars, the government's guaranteeing it.
Why would you, like, what more do you want? If
it's all about the money, you shouldn't be in the
industry anyway, Right, one.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hundred thousand does seem like it's a pretty far fair.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
But wasn't it something to do with also having more
help in the classroom?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
We'll high more teachers, Like why are we having another
day off to get more help in the classrooms. Just
go get the help. Why is this so hard?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Because people don't want to be teachers because it's a
really hard job. And one hundred grand is clearly not
being enough to motivate people to want to you know,
cop the stuff that they've been copying.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
No offense, Robin. But it's five hours of day of
looking after a kid.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
But then they got to marketings and they got to
plan the next day, don't they?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Is that okay? So eight hours a day a normal
work day, one hundred k. Yes, you're dealing with kids,
that's your choice.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, but what if we don't have teachers? Now what
happens if teachers then just go? This is too I mean,
and I think that's actually the case. I think less
and less people are choosing teaching as a profession.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Well, to be honest, if you're if the government's willing
to pay me one hundred K to teach my kids
at home, I do that every day of the way.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Can I smell? Is this a little bit of jealousy?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Like?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Are you on less than one hundred k?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
I am on less than one hundred k? Yeah, yeah,
even about that. I think it's just ridiculous that they're
just striking over something that seems so silly. Just go
and get paid, Like, why does it matter if you
want more, go do a different industry, Go to the
private sector.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I mean true private sector to can pay differently.
I don't know that they do. Yeah, like I think
you know the Catholic and the independent schools do have
their own pay structure. This is what the government offers,
is the minimum pay weight raw.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
I wonder if it's all teachers that are striking or
because I can tell you right now, I reckon pet
to be pretty happy with one hundred k.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, Well let's find out. Because Heidi of Red Bank
Planes is a teacher. Heidi, what would you like to say?
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Well, I think that people just don't understand what happens
in the classroom. Yes, looking after children, children who throw
chairs that you spit on, You stab people with pencil,
smash windows, to throw tables around the room. You've just
got no idea how traumatizing it is.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Does one hundred thousand dollars. It doesn't make it better, It.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Doesn't make it any different.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Would you take that?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
What the payroll? Else?
Speaker 8 (04:22):
What about our mental health and our physical health. We
have to put ourselves in front of that to protect
the other children.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Would you say that you'd rather more help in the
classroom than the payrise.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Or we have to put it on.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Definitely, But there's it's more than just that. Also there's
things like, yes, it's a one hundred thousand, but it's
after three years, it's not now.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So but does the money make it better or not?
Like if they said, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Not really because like you said, we finish school at
two thirty, two forty five whatever. There's other things that
we do outside of that. Plus there's things that we
do in the classroom. We pay out of our own
pocket for things for kids. You know. It's just yeah,
the money was never the reason it's And then they
(05:15):
tried to threaten us and say we'll take away the
things you already have, like non contact times. Come on, guys,
that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, thank you, Heidi. Have a parent's perspective of had
a teacher's perspective. I'm wondering what the general consensus is
because obviously teachers feel very passionate about this, and Meller's
a parent doesn't. So thirteen one O sixty five, like,
where do you sit. Do you think that one hundred
k should be enough to have those things happened that
(05:44):
Heidi's just explained. I mean there's also all the holidays playing.
That's what other people talk about.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'm also if you're leaving school right now, let's say
you finished school, you're seventeen, Like, does one hundred k
as being a teacher sound good?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Does that? Is that a pretty good cart if you
know you're going to get that?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Plus Okay, let's get a gauge of Brisbane thirteen one
o six five jet of Rabina. You kind of agree?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah? Why or one hundred k guaranteed as a minimum,
so that's without any of the extra bonuses or anything
that they do yet, Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous considering
you've got the average trad earning around about the same,
if not less, doing forty fifty hour weeks.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
So you'd go be a teacher.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm almost tempted to it.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I mean, I guess that's the the perhaps that's the
idea it is to temp because for example, there's I know,
at my boys' school, I don't think there's any male teachers.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, because no men want to do it, Yeah, because
they can earn money doing other things. I mean, we
have to be really clear here that money would not
be on the table if we had an abundance of teachers.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't believe right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think it's that money keeps upping and upping because
we need them.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
They're leaving. Why are they leaving? It's not good? What
would what would you teach je? What would you for your.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Dev Pimpomi? You are a teacher, how do you feel
about all of this?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I think people should stop talking about the money side
of this and start talking about what teachers are actually
putting up with. I work an eleven hour day, then
I go home and I do more work. I work
on my school holidays, catching up on marketing and getting
ready for the next term. I've been spat on, I've
been hit, I've been punched, I've been bitten. I've had
(07:45):
a tooth knocked out. I've had a knife held to
my throat while my shirt and my pants were being
taken off. I have been verbally and physically threatened for
the last twenty years, and it's getting worse. We've got
a stream of kids coming through with trauma and they're
bringing that to school, and they're traumatizing the teachers and
the other kids in the schools. We need programs so
(08:09):
that we can get these kids sort it out and
we can give them an alternative education, so the kids
that are actually capable of coming to school and sitting
down and listening and learning something can actually do that.
Because these children that are coming through our schools already traumatized,
we can't say no to them. We can't stop them
from doing these things because we're not allowed to touch them.
(08:30):
They can beat the living daylights out of us, but
as soon as we put hands on them, we've restrained them,
and we are in trouble. So I would like to
know if mel would like to go to work and
have all of those things happen to her every day,
and how much money would she like to be paid.
But again, take the money component off the table. Teachers
(08:50):
are not winging that they're not getting paid enough. Teachers
are sick and tired of working the hours that they're
working under, the conditions that they're working under. And don't
even get me started on the ceiling falling in and
it rains on the inside of my classroom in the
wet weather, would you.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Take less money dead to get more teachers? Do you
think that's the answer.
Speaker 9 (09:13):
I probably would. I never, ever, ever have complained about
how much I earn. I think I earn adequate money
for the job that I do. But you've got to
remember that we get paid for a five hour day.
We get paid for a five hour day, and a
lot of times I'm at work at seven in the morning,
(09:35):
I leave at half past five when the plan has
kicked me out. I take my work home. I work
on the holidays, and it does I work in my
lunch break.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It sounds dead like. Some of the issues that you
have are also the problems of parents.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Absolutely, we have parents come in here and abuse the
hell out of us, and we've just got to sit
there and smile and say we're very sorry that that's
how they feel. We're not allowed to tell them how
we feel about their parenting. We just have to sit
there and be yelled at because their kid came in
tore a classroom apart, and they've been suspended.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And that's your fault.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Time.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
No, we had kids beat the living daylights out of
a teacher. The teacher is still recovering that home or
in hospital and the kids already back from suspension. You
tell me how that's fair, fair, very articulate.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You have made your points so well. Thank you, very
very much,
I heard podcasts year more kiss podcasts, playlists and listen live.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On the freeheart app.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now with Coos the podcast. Okay, I just sell this
in our text line. It's from Mel of Karendale. She said, Hey, guys,
I don't know if you've seen the news, but I've
just seen and heard that teachers may be striking again
and knocked back one hundred k pay guarantee from the government.
She's gone on to.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Say, what the Now.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
We've managed to track Mel of Karendale down and she
is willing to just talk to us. But Alana, what
is your headline?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
So the teachers are planning to strike again, So State
school teachers, the union, they've voted on the latest payoffer
they got from the state government and they've voted it down.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
So what I heard about the offer is that that's
the minimum, the worst that like every teacher is going
to be one hundred thousand dollars at least, and then
if you've become a principle or whatever, you can be
a couple hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, there's a lot of layers to it. I guess
the main headline of the pay deal was that there'd
be an eight percent wage increase over three years, which
meant that every current teacher in the classroom would be
over one hundred grand by the end of it. But
I think the main thing has been conditions, you know,
like all the extra stuff that teachers do outside the lines,
right of what that means. So, yeah, there's a lot
(01:35):
in the weeds of it, But I think the conditions
have been the main thing this whole time, because teachers
do a lot of work outside the ninety five. It's
not nine to five, is it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
No, Well, thank you for contacting us, mell and.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Thank you for taking a call. Was sure that you
would actually do this, bravery?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, what is it that you think?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Look, honestly, I just think that it's ridiculous. So they've
knocked back one hundred thousand dollars, the government's guaranteeing it.
Why would you, like, what more do you want? If
it's all about the money, you shouldn't be in the
industry anyway, Right, one.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Hundred thousand does seem like it's a pretty far fair.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
But wasn't it something to do with also having more
help in the classroom?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
We'll high more teachers, Like why are we having another
day off to get more help in the classrooms. Just
go get the help. Why is this so hard?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Because people don't want to be teachers because it's a
really hard job. And one hundred grand is clearly not
being enough to motivate people to want to you know,
cop the stuff that they've been copying.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
No offense, Robin. But it's five hours of day of
looking after a kid.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
But then they got to marketings and they got to
plan the next day, don't they?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Is that okay? So eight hours a day a normal
work day, one hundred k. Yes, you're dealing with kids,
that's your choice.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, but what if we don't have teachers? Now what
happens if teachers then just go? This is too I mean,
and I think that's actually the case. I think less
and less people are choosing teaching as a profession.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Well, to be honest, if you're if the government's willing
to pay me one hundred K to teach my kids
at home, I do that every day of the way.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Can I smell? Is this a little bit of jealousy?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Like?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Are you on less than one hundred k?
Speaker 6 (03:13):
I am on less than one hundred k? Yeah, yeah,
even about that. I think it's just ridiculous that they're
just striking over something that seems so silly. Just go
and get paid, Like, why does it matter if you
want more, go do a different industry, Go to the
private sector.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I mean true private sector to can pay differently.
I don't know that they do. Yeah, like I think
you know the Catholic and the independent schools do have
their own pay structure. This is what the government offers,
is the minimum pay weight raw.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
I wonder if it's all teachers that are striking or
because I can tell you right now, I reckon pet
to be pretty happy with one hundred k.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, Well let's find out. Because Heidi of Red Bank
Planes is a teacher. Heidi, what would you like to say?
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Well, I think that people just don't understand what happens
in the classroom. Yes, looking after children, children who throw
chairs that you spit on, You stab people with pencil,
smash windows, to throw tables around the room. You've just
got no idea how traumatizing it is.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Does one hundred thousand dollars. It doesn't make it better, It.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Doesn't make it any different.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Would you take that?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
What the payroll? Else?
Speaker 8 (04:22):
What about our mental health and our physical health. We
have to put ourselves in front of that to protect
the other children.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Would you say that you'd rather more help in the
classroom than the payrise.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Or we have to put it on.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Definitely, But there's it's more than just that. Also there's
things like, yes, it's a one hundred thousand, but it's
after three years, it's not now.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So but does the money make it better or not?
Like if they said, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
Not really because like you said, we finish school at
two thirty, two forty five whatever. There's other things that
we do outside of that. Plus there's things that we
do in the classroom. We pay out of our own
pocket for things for kids. You know. It's just yeah,
the money was never the reason it's And then they
(05:15):
tried to threaten us and say we'll take away the
things you already have, like non contact times. Come on, guys,
that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Okay, thank you, Heidi. Have a parent's perspective of had
a teacher's perspective. I'm wondering what the general consensus is
because obviously teachers feel very passionate about this, and Meller's
a parent doesn't. So thirteen one O sixty five, like,
where do you sit. Do you think that one hundred
k should be enough to have those things happened that
(05:44):
Heidi's just explained. I mean there's also all the holidays playing.
That's what other people talk about.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'm also if you're leaving school right now, let's say
you finished school, you're seventeen, Like, does one hundred k
as being a teacher sound good?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Like that?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Does that? Is that a pretty good cart if you
know you're going to get that?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Plus Okay, let's get a gauge of Brisbane thirteen one
o six five jet of Rabina. You kind of agree?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah? Why or one hundred k guaranteed as a minimum,
so that's without any of the extra bonuses or anything
that they do yet, Yeah, it's a bit ridiculous considering
you've got the average trad earning around about the same,
if not less, doing forty fifty hour weeks.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
So you'd go be a teacher.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm almost tempted to it.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I mean, I guess that's the the perhaps that's the
idea it is to temp because for example, there's I know,
at my boys' school, I don't think there's any male teachers.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, because no men want to do it, Yeah, because
they can earn money doing other things. I mean, we
have to be really clear here that money would not
be on the table if we had an abundance of teachers.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I don't believe right.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think it's that money keeps upping and upping because
we need them.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
They're leaving. Why are they leaving? It's not good? What
would what would you teach je? What would you for your.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Dev Pimpomi? You are a teacher, how do you feel
about all of this?
Speaker 9 (07:24):
I think people should stop talking about the money side
of this and start talking about what teachers are actually
putting up with. I work an eleven hour day, then
I go home and I do more work. I work
on my school holidays, catching up on marketing and getting
ready for the next term. I've been spat on, I've
been hit, I've been punched, I've been bitten. I've had
(07:45):
a tooth knocked out. I've had a knife held to
my throat while my shirt and my pants were being
taken off. I have been verbally and physically threatened for
the last twenty years, and it's getting worse. We've got
a stream of kids coming through with trauma and they're
bringing that to school, and they're traumatizing the teachers and
the other kids in the schools. We need programs so
(08:09):
that we can get these kids sort it out and
we can give them an alternative education, so the kids
that are actually capable of coming to school and sitting
down and listening and learning something can actually do that.
Because these children that are coming through our schools already traumatized,
we can't say no to them. We can't stop them
from doing these things because we're not allowed to touch them.
(08:30):
They can beat the living daylights out of us, but
as soon as we put hands on them, we've restrained them,
and we are in trouble. So I would like to
know if mel would like to go to work and
have all of those things happen to her every day,
and how much money would she like to be paid.
But again, take the money component off the table. Teachers
(08:50):
are not winging that they're not getting paid enough. Teachers
are sick and tired of working the hours that they're
working under, the conditions that they're working under. And don't
even get me started on the ceiling falling in and
it rains on the inside of my classroom in the
wet weather, would you.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Take less money dead to get more teachers? Do you
think that's the answer.
Speaker 9 (09:13):
I probably would. I never, ever, ever have complained about
how much I earn. I think I earn adequate money
for the job that I do. But you've got to
remember that we get paid for a five hour day.
We get paid for a five hour day, and a
lot of times I'm at work at seven in the morning,
(09:35):
I leave at half past five when the plan has
kicked me out. I take my work home. I work
on the holidays, and it does I work in my
lunch break.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It sounds dead like. Some of the issues that you
have are also the problems of parents.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:50):
Absolutely, we have parents come in here and abuse the
hell out of us, and we've just got to sit
there and smile and say we're very sorry that that's
how they feel. We're not allowed to tell them how
we feel about their parenting. We just have to sit
there and be yelled at because their kid came in
tore a classroom apart, and they've been suspended.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And that's your fault.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Time.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
No, we had kids beat the living daylights out of
a teacher. The teacher is still recovering that home or
in hospital and the kids already back from suspension. You
tell me how that's fair, fair, very articulate.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
You have made your points so well. Thank you, very
very much,
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