October 24, 2024 • 15 mins
Stephen Fry caught up with Gabi ahead of his Canberra show to discuss his incredible career and reveal the REAL reason he agreed to star in the Spice Girls movie.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Rod and Gabby driving you home, minus Rod for
the time being, but joined by one of the UK's
actually the UK's best actor, comedian, writer, broadcaster. He's had
a huge career to date, and he joins me right now,
Stephen Frye.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How are you hello, Rodless Gabby.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh, I should be calling the show that from here
on out Roderless Gabby.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Stephen. You have had an illustrious career to date. As
I mentioned just before, You've been in a Shakespearean play
that got a Tony Award. You've got awards lining your
shelves for your comedy, you're acting your books that you've written.
But it's really interesting because the first thing I was
introduced to you on was actually Spice World.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh good lord, that's a blend. Oh there you are,
But you know I did. Some of your younger listeners
men not even know what Spice World is. They may
think it's a cookery program.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It was the film that the girls made at the
height of their fame and glory. It was a very
considerable height. It has to be said. It's always hard
for people to believe quite how big something was. In
the past, because they'll always assume whatever is in the
present is bigger, that Taylor Swift is bigger, or or
(01:18):
you know, K pop or something. But at the time
that the Spice Girls were a ticket to glory just
to know them, and so I had, I had, you know, God,
God children, nephews, and I knew that if I did
this film, I would be able to get a lot
of signed merch and that that would solve my birthday
(01:40):
and Christmas problems for these young ones for a long time.
So I thought, I got to do it, and I did,
and I enjoyed it. Actually it was fun. It was
I mean, I've never seen it. I try not to
see things. I mean, if possibly, yes, if you look
like me, would you go and have a look back.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Of course I will. But we are our worst critique, Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Mean we all have friends who just madness by the year.
They snatched the phone out of your hand when you've
taken a photograph and say no, delete that one, delete
that one. No, no, no, no, delete that one. And
they're always wrong. That's the weird thing. They always pick
the one where they actually look quite good because they
have a self image that is disastrous. We all do,
(02:25):
I mean, we all think we I mean most people,
it seems to think they look good sucking their cheeks
in and doing a peculiar out and half closing their
eyes and giving it at a slight angle down and
the awful. Have you noticed now if someone goes missing
or some terrible case of involving the police or whatever,
(02:46):
and their photograph needs to be on the newspaper, it's
nearly always a photograph from Instagram and so preposterous. You
just think, well, nobody looks like that, not in real
plast If I saw them in the street, I would,
you know, I would report them to the to a hospital.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If they were doing that walking.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
If they did that, they're pulling their cheeks in. But
it's how did we get onto the subject? You really
do distractive? Fa?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, that just really went on. Attention.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Welcome to my world.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love it, I loved and.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The Canberra audience can look forward to more of this.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, because you are coming to Cambra.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I haven't met Fourth the fourth of November.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
What is in the evening with Stephen Fright the Royal
Theater on the fourth of November. My husband pointed out
something very we've missed an opportunity here, because if it
was on the fifth of November, of course you could
have called it. Remember remember the fifth of November. Oh yes,
I want a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I damn missed opportunity because I'm not actually performing on
the fifth, which is of course the Melbourne Cup of
course November this year, and so slightly less important is
the American election.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, we don't need to talk about that thing.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So yeah, so the fourth will be there will be
a time for people to assemble in the theater, as
you say, the Royal in Royalty is it called the
Royal the Royal Theater Royal Theater? Yeah, ironic, isn't it?
In camera? And yeah, plan what they're going to bet on?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, yeah, that's the thing. So are you're going to
give any tips in your show, because that's what people
are going to be there for. Obviously, that's all they're
going for.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've actually I've been to the race twice. Oh good
time each time, but lost money each time.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, so we might take your tips then, don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If there's an Irish horse, go for that good tip.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I don't know if I want to take it. Now
that You've said you've lost a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Of money, though I ever believe anything I say.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
People can ask questions at the show, though, Have you
had any curly ones or any memorable questions come from
the audience?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, I mean people. I suppose the thing that surprises me,
because I've never considered it in the way that people do,
is is the effect of being well known, in being
stopped in the streets, something that interests people a lot.
And I suppose it's because I slowly seeped into public
(05:20):
consciousness over a period of years, rather than being like
a rock star or a you know, a reality star
or a soap opera star who can become famous overnight,
in the phrase of Lord Byron, to wake up and
find themselves famous. I slowly, you know. So I got
recognized in the supermarket, you know, once thought, oh god,
(05:41):
that's amazing thing I was, and then it would happen
a few more times, and then a few more and
then you get stopped in the street, and then you know,
the fan mail or whatever increases. This was days before
social media and so on, and so you kind of,
just as I say, you get used to it. You ha,
bit you does humans do to almost anything animals do generally,
(06:04):
So the fact that people do behave oddly is kind
of just what you get used to, I suppose. I mean,
I get someone shouted at me across the street a
few months ago, my children go to bed with you,
and I thought, that's that's a weird thing to shout.
(06:26):
And then I realized what they listened to the Harry
Potter audio. I just for a moment I thought, I'm
going to have to call the police, or someone is
going to call the police and report me for something
I'm sure I haven't done. I don't remember going to
bed with that man's children, or really would I think
about it any children, I'm proud to say. And so
(06:47):
this was so you get these very odd circumstances, and
here's one that won't mean anything to you. But again
it was peculiar. I was chased along the street and
I could hear these footsteps and shouting what seemed to
be a terrible insult at me. So I quickened my
own trip around a corner, and then I heard this
(07:07):
person getting closer, and I thought, well, got to confront
them while there are still other people on the pavement.
So I've got witnesses and people to protect me in
case it's a lunatic. And so I turned around and
he said, oh, mister, I'm sorry. Did I frighten you?
And I said, well, you did call me a bastard
pigging murderer. This is what I heard him say shout
(07:28):
at me. He said no, no, he said, I was
shouting Flander's pigeon murderer. And that's a line that I
had forgotten from black Adder, from the fourth series of
black Yeah, with Ryan Atkinson who kills my beloved pigeon
speckled Gym, and I court martial him and I addressed
(07:50):
him as the Flander's pigeon murderer, and that's what he
chouted at me. But I genuinely thought he was after
my blood.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's daunting.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But if you yeah, But I mean, the questions are
mostly not too nutty. If you do a literary festival,
and I do a lot of literary ft because I
read books for me, for my for your sins, Steven,
we're really going to come up with that cheap cliche.
What does it even mean? Anyway? I do? And uh,
they've their people are fascinated by process. And sometimes you
(08:26):
just lie because you get so bored with it. They say, So,
do you write in the evening or the afternoon? Do
you write in a what what sort of word process
that do you use? Do you use ulysses or do
use word or pages? Or what do you use to
use markup language? Now they ask all kinds of extraordinary
So so I remember you said, no, I I have
(08:49):
seven pencil shop for seven different types of pencil that
are according to the type of person I'm writing a
character for at the time. And I have a two
B A, one B A, three H A two H
A and a propelling pencil whose actual numbers I can't
give you, but they're very important to me. And I
went on, but the exercise book is a Phillips and
(09:11):
Tasy school exercise book with ruled lines that are exactly
seventeen and a half millimeters apart, and it has to
be that or I can't write a single word. And
some people, for the audience, we're laughing, but other ones
were making notes.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So there's going to be a lot of authors of
the future with really pedantic styles.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, but you know, in a serious way. Behind it
is the fact that this obsession speaks to the something
that I can associate with because I fall for stupid
apps that are supposed to help you do this or
help you do that. You know is we're all keen
to learn a technique, something a secret that might unlock
(09:59):
something that we feel is locked. And for a lot
of people, what they feel is locked is their ability
to write a novel or a short story or a
poem or something. And I can understand that, and I
think the irony is is that they find it difficult,
and therefore they want to know how it can become easier.
What they misunderstand is that it is difficult, and that's
(10:21):
the point. Thomas Mann, the great German novelist, said, a
writer is just an ordinary person who finds writing more
difficult than other people. Yeah, that sounds weird, but the
fact is. And if imagine a lot of people have
written the first chapter of a novel and it's gone
rather well, and they get this is pretty good, and
(10:42):
they go to bed rather excited. I've written the whole chapter.
They look at it next day and it's still quite good,
and then they say, right, okay, next chapter, and they
start writing the next chapter. They get stuck. They get
terribly stuck, and they think I can't they pay something down.
They look at it, this blinking cursor on the green,
and they just and then eventually they forget it and
(11:03):
they I can't write. I just ah. But they don't
realize that's what happens to every writer who was ever borne.
You have to push it. And in a way, a
good analogy might be plastic scene, you know that, or
clay if you if you were Michelangelo and you were thinking,
(11:26):
I I am going to do the David. I'm going
to do David from the Bible with his sling about
to kill Goliath. I'm going to make it me huge,
which you know, imagine how big Goliath would be. This
is David and he's okay, so I'll start with the feet. Okay,
I'll do the I'll do the left big toe, and
he works on the left big turn. No it's not perfect.
Oh the nail isn't right. Oh, I've got to do
(11:48):
I've got to make it. That's not how he did it.
He took the whole piece of marble and chipped away
a very rough form of a human being, and then
chipped away a bit more and chipped away a bit more.
You've got to have the whole thing the plan. So
if you're going to write a novel, write it. Don't
even worry about how good it is. Just stuff the
words down, let them stream out of your mind and
(12:09):
out of your body, and then you've got the plastic scene.
And then you can rework it and you can throw
bits out, and you can add new bits, but at
least you've got the substance of it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's that's a good tip.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's my advice.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You're better at advice for writing than you are for
the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You did mention just before that, you you did do
the audio books of Harry Potter, which I was obsessed
with growing up. I love Harry Potter. But is it
true that there is one particular phrase in Harry Potter
that you really struggled with?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes? There it was in I think the third one,
which was the Prisoner of Azkaban. And it's a simple
three word phrase and I just couldn't say and I
still can't. So I'll try it. You'll get too many syllables.
Harry Pocketer did it. Harry Pocketer did it. I still can't.
Harry Pocketed. I can say it if I separate the
(13:02):
words Harry pocketed it. But if I say Harry pocketed,
it just comes out. So this happened, and I was
reading it and we were all laughing and laughing, and
Joe Rolling wasn't in the studio that day. And part
of the business that she'd said from the very beginning,
when she'd only written one book and it was the
first book I had done, was that she had surprised
(13:24):
her publishers, and in those days, audiobooks wasn't a big
as big a deal as it is now. She said,
I don't want it a bridge condensed, you know, shortened,
if it's going to be done as an audiobook. I'd
liked the whole book changes. I was all on for
that and said, yes, I'm happy to do it. So
(13:45):
when it came to this Harry pocketed, I called her
up at lunchtime because we parked it. I just couldn't
say it. I said, come back to at the end
of the day. And I said to her, Joe's I
can't say Harry pocketed. Is it all right if I
just changed it to Harry put it in his pocket that?
And she cave a big pause and she said no.
(14:05):
And I eventually managed to get it out and in
every subsequent Harry Potter book that she then wrote the
phrase Harry pocket it is still in there little bombs
for me.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, that's so mad.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It always maybe a smile. When the new book, I
know it'll be there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm going to look out for that next time i
read it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, next time, I hope you'll be listening to the audiobook.
Listen by your bedside and you'll find easier way to
go to bed.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I love that my niece has just gotten into Harry
Potter as well, so I'll have to listen to it
with her. Can't wait, Well, we can't wait to see
you in camera, Stephen. Enjoy an evening with Stephen Fry
the Royal Theater, Canberra. Get your tickets at bomb Presents
dot com. We look forward to it and you enjoy
your travels until you get to the nation present.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Bo h not the O M B.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yes, or just google Stephen Fry and it all comes up.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Gabby. A real pleasure,
It's Rod and Gabby driving you home, minus Rod for
the time being, but joined by one of the UK's
actually the UK's best actor, comedian, writer, broadcaster. He's had
a huge career to date, and he joins me right now,
Stephen Frye.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
How are you hello, Rodless Gabby.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Oh, I should be calling the show that from here
on out Roderless Gabby.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Stephen. You have had an illustrious career to date. As
I mentioned just before, You've been in a Shakespearean play
that got a Tony Award. You've got awards lining your
shelves for your comedy, you're acting your books that you've written.
But it's really interesting because the first thing I was
introduced to you on was actually Spice World.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh good lord, that's a blend. Oh there you are,
But you know I did. Some of your younger listeners
men not even know what Spice World is. They may
think it's a cookery program.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
That's a good point.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It was the film that the girls made at the
height of their fame and glory. It was a very
considerable height. It has to be said. It's always hard
for people to believe quite how big something was. In
the past, because they'll always assume whatever is in the
present is bigger, that Taylor Swift is bigger, or or
(01:18):
you know, K pop or something. But at the time
that the Spice Girls were a ticket to glory just
to know them, and so I had, I had, you know, God,
God children, nephews, and I knew that if I did
this film, I would be able to get a lot
of signed merch and that that would solve my birthday
(01:40):
and Christmas problems for these young ones for a long time.
So I thought, I got to do it, and I did,
and I enjoyed it. Actually it was fun. It was
I mean, I've never seen it. I try not to
see things. I mean, if possibly, yes, if you look
like me, would you go and have a look back.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Of course I will. But we are our worst critique, Yes, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Mean we all have friends who just madness by the year.
They snatched the phone out of your hand when you've
taken a photograph and say no, delete that one, delete
that one. No, no, no, no, delete that one. And
they're always wrong. That's the weird thing. They always pick
the one where they actually look quite good because they
have a self image that is disastrous. We all do,
(02:25):
I mean, we all think we I mean most people,
it seems to think they look good sucking their cheeks
in and doing a peculiar out and half closing their
eyes and giving it at a slight angle down and
the awful. Have you noticed now if someone goes missing
or some terrible case of involving the police or whatever,
(02:46):
and their photograph needs to be on the newspaper, it's
nearly always a photograph from Instagram and so preposterous. You
just think, well, nobody looks like that, not in real
plast If I saw them in the street, I would,
you know, I would report them to the to a hospital.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If they were doing that walking.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
If they did that, they're pulling their cheeks in. But
it's how did we get onto the subject? You really
do distractive? Fa?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, that just really went on. Attention.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Welcome to my world.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I love it, I loved and.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The Canberra audience can look forward to more of this.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, because you are coming to Cambra.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I haven't met Fourth the fourth of November.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
What is in the evening with Stephen Fright the Royal
Theater on the fourth of November. My husband pointed out
something very we've missed an opportunity here, because if it
was on the fifth of November, of course you could
have called it. Remember remember the fifth of November. Oh yes,
I want a missed opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I damn missed opportunity because I'm not actually performing on
the fifth, which is of course the Melbourne Cup of
course November this year, and so slightly less important is
the American election.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, we don't need to talk about that thing.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So yeah, so the fourth will be there will be
a time for people to assemble in the theater, as
you say, the Royal in Royalty is it called the
Royal the Royal Theater Royal Theater? Yeah, ironic, isn't it?
In camera? And yeah, plan what they're going to bet on?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, yeah, that's the thing. So are you're going to
give any tips in your show, because that's what people
are going to be there for. Obviously, that's all they're
going for.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've actually I've been to the race twice. Oh good
time each time, but lost money each time.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, so we might take your tips then, don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If there's an Irish horse, go for that good tip.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I don't know if I want to take it. Now
that You've said you've lost a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Of money, though I ever believe anything I say.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
People can ask questions at the show, though, Have you
had any curly ones or any memorable questions come from
the audience?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, I mean people. I suppose the thing that surprises me,
because I've never considered it in the way that people do,
is is the effect of being well known, in being
stopped in the streets, something that interests people a lot.
And I suppose it's because I slowly seeped into public
(05:20):
consciousness over a period of years, rather than being like
a rock star or a you know, a reality star
or a soap opera star who can become famous overnight,
in the phrase of Lord Byron, to wake up and
find themselves famous. I slowly, you know. So I got
recognized in the supermarket, you know, once thought, oh god,
(05:41):
that's amazing thing I was, and then it would happen
a few more times, and then a few more and
then you get stopped in the street, and then you know,
the fan mail or whatever increases. This was days before
social media and so on, and so you kind of,
just as I say, you get used to it. You ha,
bit you does humans do to almost anything animals do generally,
(06:04):
So the fact that people do behave oddly is kind
of just what you get used to, I suppose. I mean,
I get someone shouted at me across the street a
few months ago, my children go to bed with you,
and I thought, that's that's a weird thing to shout.
(06:26):
And then I realized what they listened to the Harry
Potter audio. I just for a moment I thought, I'm
going to have to call the police, or someone is
going to call the police and report me for something
I'm sure I haven't done. I don't remember going to
bed with that man's children, or really would I think
about it any children, I'm proud to say. And so
(06:47):
this was so you get these very odd circumstances, and
here's one that won't mean anything to you. But again
it was peculiar. I was chased along the street and
I could hear these footsteps and shouting what seemed to
be a terrible insult at me. So I quickened my
own trip around a corner, and then I heard this
(07:07):
person getting closer, and I thought, well, got to confront
them while there are still other people on the pavement.
So I've got witnesses and people to protect me in
case it's a lunatic. And so I turned around and
he said, oh, mister, I'm sorry. Did I frighten you?
And I said, well, you did call me a bastard
pigging murderer. This is what I heard him say shout
(07:28):
at me. He said no, no, he said, I was
shouting Flander's pigeon murderer. And that's a line that I
had forgotten from black Adder, from the fourth series of
black Yeah, with Ryan Atkinson who kills my beloved pigeon
speckled Gym, and I court martial him and I addressed
(07:50):
him as the Flander's pigeon murderer, and that's what he
chouted at me. But I genuinely thought he was after
my blood.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
That's daunting.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But if you yeah, But I mean, the questions are
mostly not too nutty. If you do a literary festival,
and I do a lot of literary ft because I
read books for me, for my for your sins, Steven,
we're really going to come up with that cheap cliche.
What does it even mean? Anyway? I do? And uh,
they've their people are fascinated by process. And sometimes you
(08:26):
just lie because you get so bored with it. They say, So,
do you write in the evening or the afternoon? Do
you write in a what what sort of word process
that do you use? Do you use ulysses or do
use word or pages? Or what do you use to
use markup language? Now they ask all kinds of extraordinary
So so I remember you said, no, I I have
(08:49):
seven pencil shop for seven different types of pencil that
are according to the type of person I'm writing a
character for at the time. And I have a two
B A, one B A, three H A two H
A and a propelling pencil whose actual numbers I can't
give you, but they're very important to me. And I
went on, but the exercise book is a Phillips and
(09:11):
Tasy school exercise book with ruled lines that are exactly
seventeen and a half millimeters apart, and it has to
be that or I can't write a single word. And
some people, for the audience, we're laughing, but other ones
were making notes.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So there's going to be a lot of authors of
the future with really pedantic styles.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, but you know, in a serious way. Behind it
is the fact that this obsession speaks to the something
that I can associate with because I fall for stupid
apps that are supposed to help you do this or
help you do that. You know is we're all keen
to learn a technique, something a secret that might unlock
(09:59):
something that we feel is locked. And for a lot
of people, what they feel is locked is their ability
to write a novel or a short story or a
poem or something. And I can understand that, and I
think the irony is is that they find it difficult,
and therefore they want to know how it can become easier.
What they misunderstand is that it is difficult, and that's
(10:21):
the point. Thomas Mann, the great German novelist, said, a
writer is just an ordinary person who finds writing more
difficult than other people. Yeah, that sounds weird, but the
fact is. And if imagine a lot of people have
written the first chapter of a novel and it's gone
rather well, and they get this is pretty good, and
(10:42):
they go to bed rather excited. I've written the whole chapter.
They look at it next day and it's still quite good,
and then they say, right, okay, next chapter, and they
start writing the next chapter. They get stuck. They get
terribly stuck, and they think I can't they pay something down.
They look at it, this blinking cursor on the green,
and they just and then eventually they forget it and
(11:03):
they I can't write. I just ah. But they don't
realize that's what happens to every writer who was ever borne.
You have to push it. And in a way, a
good analogy might be plastic scene, you know that, or
clay if you if you were Michelangelo and you were thinking,
(11:26):
I I am going to do the David. I'm going
to do David from the Bible with his sling about
to kill Goliath. I'm going to make it me huge,
which you know, imagine how big Goliath would be. This
is David and he's okay, so I'll start with the feet. Okay,
I'll do the I'll do the left big toe, and
he works on the left big turn. No it's not perfect.
Oh the nail isn't right. Oh, I've got to do
(11:48):
I've got to make it. That's not how he did it.
He took the whole piece of marble and chipped away
a very rough form of a human being, and then
chipped away a bit more and chipped away a bit more.
You've got to have the whole thing the plan. So
if you're going to write a novel, write it. Don't
even worry about how good it is. Just stuff the
words down, let them stream out of your mind and
(12:09):
out of your body, and then you've got the plastic scene.
And then you can rework it and you can throw
bits out, and you can add new bits, but at
least you've got the substance of it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's that's a good tip.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's my advice.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You're better at advice for writing than you are for
the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Good.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You did mention just before that, you you did do
the audio books of Harry Potter, which I was obsessed
with growing up. I love Harry Potter. But is it
true that there is one particular phrase in Harry Potter
that you really struggled with?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes? There it was in I think the third one,
which was the Prisoner of Azkaban. And it's a simple
three word phrase and I just couldn't say and I
still can't. So I'll try it. You'll get too many syllables.
Harry Pocketer did it. Harry Pocketer did it. I still can't.
Harry Pocketed. I can say it if I separate the
(13:02):
words Harry pocketed it. But if I say Harry pocketed,
it just comes out. So this happened, and I was
reading it and we were all laughing and laughing, and
Joe Rolling wasn't in the studio that day. And part
of the business that she'd said from the very beginning,
when she'd only written one book and it was the
first book I had done, was that she had surprised
(13:24):
her publishers, and in those days, audiobooks wasn't a big
as big a deal as it is now. She said,
I don't want it a bridge condensed, you know, shortened,
if it's going to be done as an audiobook. I'd
liked the whole book changes. I was all on for
that and said, yes, I'm happy to do it. So
(13:45):
when it came to this Harry pocketed, I called her
up at lunchtime because we parked it. I just couldn't
say it. I said, come back to at the end
of the day. And I said to her, Joe's I
can't say Harry pocketed. Is it all right if I
just changed it to Harry put it in his pocket that?
And she cave a big pause and she said no.
(14:05):
And I eventually managed to get it out and in
every subsequent Harry Potter book that she then wrote the
phrase Harry pocket it is still in there little bombs
for me.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Oh, that's so mad.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It always maybe a smile. When the new book, I
know it'll be there somewhere.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm going to look out for that next time i
read it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, next time, I hope you'll be listening to the audiobook.
Listen by your bedside and you'll find easier way to
go to bed.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I love that my niece has just gotten into Harry
Potter as well, so I'll have to listen to it
with her. Can't wait, Well, we can't wait to see
you in camera, Stephen. Enjoy an evening with Stephen Fry
the Royal Theater, Canberra. Get your tickets at bomb Presents
dot com. We look forward to it and you enjoy
your travels until you get to the nation present.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Bo h not the O M B.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yes, or just google Stephen Fry and it all comes up.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Gabby. A real pleasure,
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