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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They came bounding over.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's a procedure.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
This is Roden, Gabby.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Versus the world mobs and Roses back for breakfast. Saturday morning,
eight until ten. From Jason Derulo to Jason Roses.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning, good morning, thanks for inviting me in.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well we saw you, you know, just in the area
and where Gabby has been asked for an update in
regard to the erotica that she reads very smart. It's
called fairy smart.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Fairy you said this to me, and I was like,
is that a version of fairy bread?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Like, I don't know what's going on. I don't know.
I read yummy, very smart with the breads.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Having the two fairies together would be.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
A time not what it is.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, no, no, Fairy smart is a genre of books that
is like fantasy romance, and it's it's a whole other
world with fairies and humans and whatever. Right, And I
was told to get into it. Everyone was talking about it.
It's all over book talk. It's a whole phase. I
was like, I need to know what this is about.
So I started, and then yesterday the other day, I
had to do an update because I wasn't loving it.
(01:15):
There was like I was like a book and a
half in and there was two romance scenes, and I
was very disappointed.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, all right, so is this like erotic fairies? Yep, right,
taking their r then you can imagine, right, you can use.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Your imagination for the rest. Yeah, but there's only two
sexy scenes. And anyway, I got further in and it's
starting to heat up, So I.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Was, can I ask there's a legitimate question. Fairies fly
and they have wings? Do they do things mid air?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
A great question? Yeah, it has been that builds up.
It's the crescendo.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's been mentioned, but it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We're ninety seconds into this and it's captured Jason's imagination
to the extent he's ready to start penning his own novel.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well, this is actually really interesting because I was talking
about it and I mustn't have said the books that
I was reading. I must have just left that out
for some unknown reason. So it is a court of
thorns and Roses. There's five books in this series. That's
what I'm reading. Because I needed to say that and
apologize that I hadn't mentioned that a court of thorns
and roses. Yes, yes, yes, so I've had messages come
(02:20):
through our Instagram, my Instagram and in person asking what
the books were, so I needed to apologize and mention it.
Even yesterday I had a girl asked me.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
She's like, look, I just needed to check. Is this
the book you're reading? What here it is?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
And she pulled up and she had a full forearm tattoo.
The series it is like hectic following. There are people
who are really into it and I get it. And
she assured me that it just gets spicy and spicy,
so you just.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Get called away in this fantasy. I mean, I think that,
you know, because I'm single, maybe this is this is
how I can escape this prison day.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's as good as it's going to get for a
little while. And Gabby says, the world there's a young
guy that I see on TikTok just pop up and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, you scroll on TikTok sometimes you get into
a black hole.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You click a thing and it all of a sudden,
you're on it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, and you for hours.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't think I've ever gone directly onto TikTok.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh, but like a link will take you there and
then you click a.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Thing and all of a sudden you're in there, You've
you've got to pull a thing across and the little
circles in a big circle. And next thing I know,
there's a rabbit hole. And in the rabbit hole there's
a young guy called Tom Smallwood. He's an Australian bloke,
and he'll show me how to make something in sixty seconds.
And I'm all about that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Anyway, as him makes something to.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Eat, great point food. And so his follow ship, probably
by more design than me stumbling across him periodically, has
grown to nearly three quarters of a million followers. And
then book publishers go, you should be an author as well.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Got your audience ready to.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Go, And so this pops up on the feed the
other day.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I quit my job three years ago to pursue social media,
and I didn't know how to feed myself. I was
living off Costco slices and Uber eats. I knew how
to cook, it was what to cook that I was
stuck on. It got me thinking, if only there was
a resource available with the collection of recipes that would.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Help me decide what to eat.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Jennie's idea, right, That's where Tom's Diner comes in. This
is my debut cookbook, and finally, my mum can call
me something other than unemployed.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Here is no longer unemployed. By the way, tremendous success
with your social media career, however, important that mums think
that we have jobs. Tom Small would congratulations.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Mate, thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Gay.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Is it true?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Like I can imagine going into the social media realm
as a job. Your parents would be sitting there going
that's not a job.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Definitely, definitely were. It was on more than one occasion
where mum and dad were just say, you probably need
to get something serious, get a real job, don't pursue this,
and I just didn't listen.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I can imagine my mum being the same.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I don't have to imagine on behalf of someone who's
been doing radio for most of their outuurt life.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
My parents thought the exact same thing. Yeah, was there?
Did you? Did you get a teacher's degree? For anyone
who needs a fallback, they invariably get a teaching degree.
Is there a fallback or is this just worked out beautifully?
Speaker 7 (05:16):
I was thinking about a fallback for the longest time,
but the whole time that I was pursuing social media
I had been working in kitchen, so that was the
job that was supporting I guess my lifestyle of trying
to make content on the site.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And what age did you actually get into cooking, because
I haven't reached that age yet, so it really interests me.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
I think food's always been a part of our family
and everything. So I was in the kitchen at buddy
young age until mom kicked me out because we've been
making too much math. But I was definitely always around
the kitchen and always sort of had that spark and
the drive to try to cook some things.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You are the symbol of a generation as far as
we see the research and the majority by a long shot.
I mean, back in the sixties, what do you want
to be? Kids, it's ot an astronaut. In twenty twenty whatever,
what do you want to be? It's a content creator.
And so yes, for you to go, all right, well,
I'm going to stop working, I'm going to really commit
to this. Is there the fearlessness of youth and you
(06:16):
just have a crack or is it a little bit frightening?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
There's there definitely was the fearlessness of youth up to
a point but now that I'm getting on or about
to turn twenty seven, I keep looking back and going,
if this didn't work out the way that it did,
it would have been probably the worst mistake of my life.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
But maybe it was very.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Lucky for me to be in this position and for
me to stick it out that long Tai to get
to this position.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm glad to say that. And it's it's kind of
it's two stories, though it is sliding doors and all
those things. We have so many young listeners that listen
to the show. They're listening right now, they're going, look,
it does work. And I suppose the part where you go, Okay, yes,
it could have been the worst decision of your life,
but just just going all in and committing it's the
only way that it can I suppose I.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Was thinking that a few times. A few times. I mean,
I'm sure over the past five or six years, there
were many many times that I told myself to quit
and just give up. But I think I just ignored it.
I ignored my own negative thoughts about it, and I just
I think there was some part of me that knew
that it was going to work out, or at least
knew that it had to work out because that had
(07:22):
already come so far.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, your recipes are very simple, which I love because
you don't want to be spending well, I don't want
to be spending five hours in the kitchen making a masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I just want something done. Ready, let's go, let's eat.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
It was that by design because you knew that's what
your friends and your audience were going to want. Or
is it because when you're first starting in the social
media job that you couldn't afford the crazy ingredients and
so I was like, you know, three ingredient dishes to
get started.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, No, the recipes are definitely easier by design. I
want people to become more confident in the kitchen, and
I feel think they're more simple recipes with a few
basic cooking techniques are the way to go through that
and plos. People don't really have the time or really
care factor to be in the kitchen, and I'm hoping
that with some of these more simple recipes it'll give
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them the confidence to get in and move on to
some of the more difficult ones or even more difficult
cookbooks from other authors.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I really love your byline as well.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Cook, Share, Eat, Repeat, It's very What was the song
from a.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Few Eat Sleep Rave repeats.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
It's like that that we're just in the kitchen and
we're making spaghetti's.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Raven in the kitchen together. I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
There is a remix surely on the horizon. It's traveling
fantastically over thirty three million views on TikTok. You got
the YouTube channel going as well as the podcast. However,
this is the big thing because yes, it now defines
you as an author, which is an incredible achievement. November eleven,
Tom's done a cook Share, Eat Repeat is going to
be out. We'd love to stay in touch, mate, We'll
(08:56):
see you back on TikTok and everywhere that we turn.
Congratulations this morning.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
People keep telling me that the dating apps are just
you got off them all the time. You kept on
off never again.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, you do it, and then you'd be sick of it,
so you get rid of it, and then you'd be like,
no need bit of an ego boostore, I'm lonely or
whatever it may be. And I deleted the apps at
least five times minimum.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, and so today we're learning, and it's going to
be the case with every app in the world AI
is taking over, So can we rely on AI c
more helpful? Could that improve what's been a recipe for failure?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You know, it's a really good question because the AI app,
it's called a Marta, this new dating app and it
does play matchmaker, but it's really weird in that it
describes the app as aiming to inject the human back
into online dating. However, there's no human. It's an AI
bot that is the person you talk to.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
On the APPI could I suppose display more humanity than
some of the trolls on these apps?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, that's probably true. That is probably true.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So you get this app right, it's called Amata, as
I mentioned, and you get on there and you don't
have to feel out a byo. What happens is you
pick your matchmaker, who's an avatar of what the chatbot
will be. So you pick that person and then you
have a chat with them. They ask you questions, you respond,
and they create an idea of who you are and
(10:31):
what you're looking for from that conversation, which I love
because writing out a bio, I don't know, it doesn't
fit well for me because trying to sell yourself it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Doesn't I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But if you're just chatting to someone about who you
are and what you like, then that might be a
better way of going about it. But then it gets
real weird from here. So the AI bot then goes
and tries to match.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You with people that you're interested in.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It'll only give you three matches at a time, so
it's like a slow burn one rather than Tinder, or
you just swipe and swipe and swipe and swipe until
you run.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Out of people.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Well that's seems smart.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, However, it's not too advanced yet, and it seems
to like hone in on things that maybe you weren't
necessarily highlighting. So there was this one person, for example,
who said, it's not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer
if they didn't have kids. But AI is very straighty
one eighty and they don't understand nuance and so they
just go no kids, and so they've like wiped out
(11:27):
anyone with a kid, and they don't have that the
flexibility the gray area.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
AI is obviously brutal and honest. Yeah, and so the
part where you go it's black and white. Yeah, and
so the reason that perhaps on the other apps that
someone you know has been casting in nets so wide
and not finding the right person. AI goes, okay, let's
cut to the chasing. You're saying you kind of maybe,
sort of not really maybe, I don't know. Let's get
rid of that. You just don't.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Let's go back, all right, there's another person who was
on there instead of like dogs, just in conversation, I
do like AI honed in on that so hard. The
only thing they looked for in potential partners was a
love of dogs, not whether they were in it for
the long haul or a short term romance, not if
they were an honest, cool person. It was just that
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was the only thing that it owned. And so there's
still some development to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
But I don't want to say that AI is smarter
than you, but maybe it knows people who love dogs
tick all those other boxes.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Not always they do, not always. But this is where
it gets really weird.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So once you get those three matches and you decide
that yeah, maybe I like that one, and they say
I like her, then the AI bot finds a location
midway between the two of you. It books a date,
it tells you where and when to go, and it
doesn't open communication between the two of you until an
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hour before the date.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It doesn't need humans messing up. It's hard work. I
like its attitude.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Rod and Gabby versus the.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
World, Cinda and Paul. We're a couple that joined us
on Friday night at Waves car wash, Roden Gabies, Wipe Left,
Wipe Right. Has been a really committed search for a
couple of weeks to find those Canberrans unlucky in love
who trusted us to be the ultimate wingman and wing
woman sitting in the back of the car while they
(13:21):
met when someone else for the first time.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, and we had a lot of faith because Chelsea
did a lot of the matchmaking and we had a
lot of confidence in those matches we really did.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Did I help or was I hindrance at this moment
in the date? Take a listen, So how old you?
Speaker 6 (13:40):
I'm thirty five. I don't want to ask because it's
not right to us.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Guess and see if someone gets offended.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Yeah, I'm kidding, don't turn.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Don't do that game. That's a breast because you can guess.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
If you want.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm not going to take a bet.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I was twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'm thirty okay, yeah, run well that was a trap
helpful or not?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Not at all?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I thought it was fun.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Set the trap, I thought much to them, the trap happened,
and then you went, that was a trap.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Let's go to Campbell, Paul. Was that a fun bit
of helping because you didn't you didn't fall into the trap?
But was it close?
Speaker 6 (14:21):
I reckon it was a good help.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Thank you. That's what I needed, all right? How was
the experience? I mean, you've been out there looking for love.
It's bloody hard work. Was I mean, it was obviously
something different on Friday night? But how did you enjoy it?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
I really did enjoy it. I'd be happy to do
it again. Unfortunately, just send the message me. I think
the dad too often just saying that she didn't think
she was quite ready for the dating. Well again, so
that's all good, you know, all the best moving forward.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So that's the attitude. I mean, this is the thing,
you've known someone for ten seconds. But I just felt
like at the end of the day you two were
just chatting like you'd known one for a long time.
Did you finish that date feeling as though there could
have been a future?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, Like we give each other a hargain. We swap
numbers and we talk for a dow or two. But yeah,
she said that I thought I was ready, but I'm
not much. I tried to understand, like my last relationship,
I'm not going to mengine names, but yeah, that was
almost eight years and that didn't end well. It took
me probably a year and a bit to here. As
I said, like I lost the weight from one hundred
and thirty and too aboute hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So fantastic, working a lot of yeh.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Working on myself and yeah, so I understand that a
lot that I've been seeing now for about roughly three years.
So it's like wanting to meet someone I'm being thirty five.
But yeah, and I totally enjoyed it and I'd love
to do it again.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Paul, I've got a question for Gabby because it's not
I know that you're married and you've got a beautiful baby,
but it still doesn't feel like it's that long ago.
Since you're in the dating game, the part where things
might have gone well and then you talk, in the
words of Paul, in other words, message for a couple
of days. Does that accelerate the process and in some
cases maybe take the place of what a second date
might have been once upon a time.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I wouldn't say so, you don't think so. No, it's
just a bit of small talk and chit chat until
you meet again, right, Is that what you think, Paul?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, I reckon so too, and it can be hard.
Like I was broke to them my nephew about it.
And it's like, once you get someone's attention, you talk
to a minute, the sort of do I talk too much?
Do I not talk enough? It's trying once you get
their attention to hold it and then try and make
sure that stays there and just sort of nurture it.
But I've had times I've been told I'm too chatty.
(16:33):
The times I'm not chatty enough. I'm like you, they
say you need to be more chatty.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But no, you're just going to be yourself.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, be yourself because the right person will enjoy whatever
you are providing. But Rodi in that question asking if
the chit chat was like a second date, are you
trying to claim a second date from that?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Are you trying to claim success?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm looking for a kick in the windbop for us
any way I can. But Paul's telling me no, mate,
that's absolutely.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I reckon, I reckon, you're a good wing man.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Can we ask though, because I have had some little
intel from a birdie named Chelsea that you have seen
someone else that was on our car wash speed dates
that you may have asked for their number.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yeah, I did, and we sort of chatted. Yes, I
was a bit brought at work, and we'll sort of
are sitting there talking and I think between the nerves
and the excitement, we chatted a bit and she's like,
you're you're a bit keen. You're just cooler jets and
just chat more chatting and got a little quiet like
I know she's got a little girl, so I know
she's busy and she works. So I haven't heard Nick yet,
(17:41):
but back last night slash this morning. But yeah, I'm
playing it cool and yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Your bossy just learned that you're doing this at work.
Wanted to play for cool too, because.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Activities lunch break and yeah, it's fine as long as
you had a job. And if we get a text,
we can with fly sort of fingers like my headers
in my phone, Like that's a.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Good point, you know what, It doesn't matter whether or
not it's what we're pursuing here. Obviously the date with
Jinda didn't land with a second date. You said something
on this date. I want you to listen back to
it because I have a question around it, which is
important I think for any part of the search for
love moving forward, take a listen.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But no, like I like my movie, isn't that funny enough?
I get if he's asking people this, But a lot
of people like true crime. I don't think people. I
get the worry people think, oh, you know true crime,
you know, but that in horror, Like I really like them.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But I do like comedy too, but everything, Yeah, that's
like on part with me.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
I like true crime as well as comedy, but I
guess dealing with it every day too. It's just that's true.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You two both working in the area of law enforcement
or certainly you know, keeping an eye on the crims.
What worries you about saying that you like true crime?
It's such a popular genre, everyone loves it. What are
you concerned about?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
A certain person that's called Martin Bryant mm hmm from Tasmania,
Port Arthur, the Port Arthur massacre, right, me and him
sharing the last name. It's kind of a are you
related to Martin Bright My god.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, well I did not put that together. But that's
the thing that you've lived with your life as that
is your last name is obviously it's you know, a
diabolical tragedy in one of the you know, it's the
worst massacre in our nation's history. And so that you've
you've felt you've had to carry that burden with you
for your whole life and your love of that genre.
You worry about talking about it and someone else joining
doctor Arte asking that.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
But yeah, just fascinating thing. How it is the cops
put all the puzzles pieces together, and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, it's why people find the genre fascinating. But it's
a perfect example of Okay, you know, if that is
a genre that you're fascinated by. Paul is well researched
in the area, and mate, I reckon, I reckon, You're
a catch. Having spent a little bit of time with
you on Friday night and to you a couple of
times over the journey. So we're going to stay in touch,
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fingers crossed that we end up, you know, finding love
together on this journey. You're happy to keep telling us
how it's all going over the coming weeks and months.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And if you guys do it again,
let me know. I'm happy I've used my ring nam again.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Fantastic. Okay, I've been calling the back, calling up again and.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The region I think you'd ever get called back up?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, to be honest, well, nor did I because we can.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
See the video, by the way, this entire date on
our socials at the moment.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
We are zero and three.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, but you will also see Rod doing his best
Michael Jackson impersonation of eating the popcorn while watching the
date happen in the backseat.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
When the dates going so well, I don't need my help.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
You were just digging into that chigutary board.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
There's a giant thing. There's a tray of food there,
so you know that's only one thing to do.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Is that the voice of the oracle?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's right?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Thank you, Ashley, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Gabrielle across Canfra on four point seven.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This is Roden Gabby.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Thank you voice lady, go ahead, Gabrielle.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't know if anyone in the car can even
hear you right now?
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Should we go?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
That's better you would have been whispered to the road noise.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Well, this is it's a new thing that I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's very soothing.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Thank you where I manifest, I've learned of manifestation, manifesting,
and earlier in the week I manifested Picking Duck performing
in Canberra.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Who are joining us on Friday, by the way, So
I'd love to hear what they have to say about that.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Thank you as what they'll say, Thank you Rod for
manifesting our return to the capitol, our hometown. And I
just said, you know what they did?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
You back?
Speaker 8 (21:42):
I would love that, and then within hours they were back.
So in the tradition of my manifesting things.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sorry, yeah, everyone.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
I would like to in anticipation of the announcement of
the Australia's Top Town Tourism.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Awards Australia Top Tourism Town.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
They're going to make an announcement today and I know
that our region is being represented by bungandor Bus and
so everyone take a moment. Everyone, if there's a city
we manifest and we go this is ours, this is ours, this.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Is our all right?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Can I give a little backg.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So, a couple of weeks ago we did celebrate the
fact that Bungandor was the Canberra Region Small Tourism Town winner. Yeah,
we had a little laugh about it because we're like, well,
it kind of just rotates because there's not that many
downs to fall into that category that could win. But
I was celebrating being a bunganduriance. I was born and
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Bungandor was celebrating. And now they in for that category
in the Australia's Top Tourism Town Awards, which is being
presented at Parliament House this morning. So the small town
category is like less than five thousand people but more
than fifteen hundred. So that's why it's in the small
town category. Not tiny town people.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I'm telling you it's ours. Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's ours.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean it's ours. The oracle spocuses.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Let's see how we go.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'm on a double.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Imagine if Bung in Door won the Tourism town for
all of Australia.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, it's like manifesting it wins
They came bounding over.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's a procedure.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
This is Roden, Gabby.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Versus the world mobs and Roses back for breakfast. Saturday morning,
eight until ten. From Jason Derulo to Jason Roses.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning, good morning, thanks for inviting me in.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well we saw you, you know, just in the area
and where Gabby has been asked for an update in
regard to the erotica that she reads very smart. It's
called fairy smart.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Fairy you said this to me, and I was like,
is that a version of fairy bread?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Like, I don't know what's going on. I don't know.
I read yummy, very smart with the breads.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Having the two fairies together would be.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
A time not what it is.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
No, no, no, Fairy smart is a genre of books that
is like fantasy romance, and it's it's a whole other
world with fairies and humans and whatever. Right, And I
was told to get into it. Everyone was talking about it.
It's all over book talk. It's a whole phase. I
was like, I need to know what this is about.
So I started, and then yesterday the other day, I
had to do an update because I wasn't loving it.
(01:15):
There was like I was like a book and a
half in and there was two romance scenes, and I
was very disappointed.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, all right, so is this like erotic fairies? Yep, right,
taking their r then you can imagine, right, you can use.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Your imagination for the rest. Yeah, but there's only two
sexy scenes. And anyway, I got further in and it's
starting to heat up, So I.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Was, can I ask there's a legitimate question. Fairies fly
and they have wings? Do they do things mid air?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
A great question? Yeah, it has been that builds up.
It's the crescendo.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's been mentioned, but it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We're ninety seconds into this and it's captured Jason's imagination
to the extent he's ready to start penning his own novel.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Well, this is actually really interesting because I was talking
about it and I mustn't have said the books that
I was reading. I must have just left that out
for some unknown reason. So it is a court of
thorns and Roses. There's five books in this series. That's
what I'm reading. Because I needed to say that and
apologize that I hadn't mentioned that a court of thorns
and roses. Yes, yes, yes, so I've had messages come
(02:20):
through our Instagram, my Instagram and in person asking what
the books were, so I needed to apologize and mention it.
Even yesterday I had a girl asked me.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
She's like, look, I just needed to check. Is this
the book you're reading? What here it is?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
And she pulled up and she had a full forearm tattoo.
The series it is like hectic following. There are people
who are really into it and I get it. And
she assured me that it just gets spicy and spicy,
so you just.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Get called away in this fantasy. I mean, I think that,
you know, because I'm single, maybe this is this is
how I can escape this prison day.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's as good as it's going to get for a
little while. And Gabby says, the world there's a young
guy that I see on TikTok just pop up and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, you scroll on TikTok sometimes you get into
a black hole.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You click a thing and it all of a sudden,
you're on it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, and you for hours.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't think I've ever gone directly onto TikTok.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh, but like a link will take you there and
then you click a.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Thing and all of a sudden you're in there, You've
you've got to pull a thing across and the little
circles in a big circle. And next thing I know,
there's a rabbit hole. And in the rabbit hole there's
a young guy called Tom Smallwood. He's an Australian bloke,
and he'll show me how to make something in sixty seconds.
And I'm all about that.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Anyway, as him makes something to.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Eat, great point food. And so his follow ship, probably
by more design than me stumbling across him periodically, has
grown to nearly three quarters of a million followers. And
then book publishers go, you should be an author as well.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Got your audience ready to.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Go, And so this pops up on the feed the
other day.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I quit my job three years ago to pursue social media,
and I didn't know how to feed myself. I was
living off Costco slices and Uber eats. I knew how
to cook, it was what to cook that I was
stuck on. It got me thinking, if only there was
a resource available with the collection of recipes that would.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Help me decide what to eat.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Jennie's idea, right, That's where Tom's Diner comes in. This
is my debut cookbook, and finally, my mum can call
me something other than unemployed.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Here is no longer unemployed. By the way, tremendous success
with your social media career, however, important that mums think
that we have jobs. Tom Small would congratulations.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Mate, thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Gay.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Is it true?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Like I can imagine going into the social media realm
as a job. Your parents would be sitting there going
that's not a job.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Definitely, definitely were. It was on more than one occasion
where mum and dad were just say, you probably need
to get something serious, get a real job, don't pursue this,
and I just didn't listen.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I can imagine my mum being the same.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I don't have to imagine on behalf of someone who's
been doing radio for most of their outuurt life.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
My parents thought the exact same thing. Yeah, was there?
Did you? Did you get a teacher's degree? For anyone
who needs a fallback, they invariably get a teaching degree.
Is there a fallback or is this just worked out beautifully?
Speaker 7 (05:16):
I was thinking about a fallback for the longest time,
but the whole time that I was pursuing social media
I had been working in kitchen, so that was the
job that was supporting I guess my lifestyle of trying
to make content on the site.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And what age did you actually get into cooking, because
I haven't reached that age yet, so it really interests me.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
I think food's always been a part of our family
and everything. So I was in the kitchen at buddy
young age until mom kicked me out because we've been
making too much math. But I was definitely always around
the kitchen and always sort of had that spark and
the drive to try to cook some things.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You are the symbol of a generation as far as
we see the research and the majority by a long shot.
I mean, back in the sixties, what do you want
to be? Kids, it's ot an astronaut. In twenty twenty whatever,
what do you want to be? It's a content creator.
And so yes, for you to go, all right, well,
I'm going to stop working, I'm going to really commit
to this. Is there the fearlessness of youth and you
(06:16):
just have a crack or is it a little bit frightening?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
There's there definitely was the fearlessness of youth up to
a point but now that I'm getting on or about
to turn twenty seven, I keep looking back and going,
if this didn't work out the way that it did,
it would have been probably the worst mistake of my life.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
But maybe it was very.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Lucky for me to be in this position and for
me to stick it out that long Tai to get
to this position.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I'm glad to say that. And it's it's kind of
it's two stories, though it is sliding doors and all
those things. We have so many young listeners that listen
to the show. They're listening right now, they're going, look,
it does work. And I suppose the part where you go, Okay, yes,
it could have been the worst decision of your life,
but just just going all in and committing it's the
only way that it can I suppose I.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Was thinking that a few times. A few times. I mean,
I'm sure over the past five or six years, there
were many many times that I told myself to quit
and just give up. But I think I just ignored it.
I ignored my own negative thoughts about it, and I just
I think there was some part of me that knew
that it was going to work out, or at least
knew that it had to work out because that had
(07:22):
already come so far.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, your recipes are very simple, which I love because
you don't want to be spending well, I don't want
to be spending five hours in the kitchen making a masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I just want something done. Ready, let's go, let's eat.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
It was that by design because you knew that's what
your friends and your audience were going to want. Or
is it because when you're first starting in the social
media job that you couldn't afford the crazy ingredients and
so I was like, you know, three ingredient dishes to
get started.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Well, No, the recipes are definitely easier by design. I
want people to become more confident in the kitchen, and
I feel think they're more simple recipes with a few
basic cooking techniques are the way to go through that
and plos. People don't really have the time or really
care factor to be in the kitchen, and I'm hoping
that with some of these more simple recipes it'll give
(08:14):
them the confidence to get in and move on to
some of the more difficult ones or even more difficult
cookbooks from other authors.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I really love your byline as well.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Cook, Share, Eat, Repeat, It's very What was the song
from a.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Few Eat Sleep Rave repeats.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
It's like that that we're just in the kitchen and
we're making spaghetti's.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Raven in the kitchen together. I love it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
There is a remix surely on the horizon. It's traveling
fantastically over thirty three million views on TikTok. You got
the YouTube channel going as well as the podcast. However,
this is the big thing because yes, it now defines
you as an author, which is an incredible achievement. November eleven,
Tom's done a cook Share, Eat Repeat is going to
be out. We'd love to stay in touch, mate, We'll
(08:56):
see you back on TikTok and everywhere that we turn.
Congratulations this morning.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
People keep telling me that the dating apps are just
you got off them all the time. You kept on
off never again.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, you do it, and then you'd be sick of it,
so you get rid of it, and then you'd be like,
no need bit of an ego boostore, I'm lonely or
whatever it may be. And I deleted the apps at
least five times minimum.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, and so today we're learning, and it's going to
be the case with every app in the world AI
is taking over, So can we rely on AI c
more helpful? Could that improve what's been a recipe for failure?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
You know, it's a really good question because the AI app,
it's called a Marta, this new dating app and it
does play matchmaker, but it's really weird in that it
describes the app as aiming to inject the human back
into online dating. However, there's no human. It's an AI
bot that is the person you talk to.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
On the APPI could I suppose display more humanity than
some of the trolls on these apps?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, that's probably true. That is probably true.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So you get this app right, it's called Amata, as
I mentioned, and you get on there and you don't
have to feel out a byo. What happens is you
pick your matchmaker, who's an avatar of what the chatbot
will be. So you pick that person and then you
have a chat with them. They ask you questions, you respond,
and they create an idea of who you are and
(10:31):
what you're looking for from that conversation, which I love
because writing out a bio, I don't know, it doesn't
fit well for me because trying to sell yourself it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Doesn't I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But if you're just chatting to someone about who you
are and what you like, then that might be a
better way of going about it. But then it gets
real weird from here. So the AI bot then goes
and tries to match.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You with people that you're interested in.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It'll only give you three matches at a time, so
it's like a slow burn one rather than Tinder, or
you just swipe and swipe and swipe and swipe until
you run.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Out of people.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Well that's seems smart.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, However, it's not too advanced yet, and it seems
to like hone in on things that maybe you weren't
necessarily highlighting. So there was this one person, for example,
who said, it's not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer
if they didn't have kids. But AI is very straighty
one eighty and they don't understand nuance and so they
just go no kids, and so they've like wiped out
(11:27):
anyone with a kid, and they don't have that the
flexibility the gray area.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
AI is obviously brutal and honest. Yeah, and so the
part where you go it's black and white. Yeah, and
so the reason that perhaps on the other apps that
someone you know has been casting in nets so wide
and not finding the right person. AI goes, okay, let's
cut to the chasing. You're saying you kind of maybe,
sort of not really maybe, I don't know. Let's get
rid of that. You just don't.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Let's go back, all right, there's another person who was
on there instead of like dogs, just in conversation, I
do like AI honed in on that so hard. The
only thing they looked for in potential partners was a
love of dogs, not whether they were in it for
the long haul or a short term romance, not if
they were an honest, cool person. It was just that
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was the only thing that it owned. And so there's
still some development to happen.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
But I don't want to say that AI is smarter
than you, but maybe it knows people who love dogs
tick all those other boxes.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Not always they do, not always. But this is where
it gets really weird.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So once you get those three matches and you decide
that yeah, maybe I like that one, and they say
I like her, then the AI bot finds a location
midway between the two of you. It books a date,
it tells you where and when to go, and it
doesn't open communication between the two of you until an
(12:52):
hour before the date.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It doesn't need humans messing up. It's hard work. I
like its attitude.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Rod and Gabby versus the.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
World, Cinda and Paul. We're a couple that joined us
on Friday night at Waves car wash, Roden Gabies, Wipe Left,
Wipe Right. Has been a really committed search for a
couple of weeks to find those Canberrans unlucky in love
who trusted us to be the ultimate wingman and wing
woman sitting in the back of the car while they
(13:21):
met when someone else for the first time.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, and we had a lot of faith because Chelsea
did a lot of the matchmaking and we had a
lot of confidence in those matches we really did.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Did I help or was I hindrance at this moment
in the date? Take a listen, So how old you?
Speaker 6 (13:40):
I'm thirty five. I don't want to ask because it's
not right to us.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Guess and see if someone gets offended.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Yeah, I'm kidding, don't turn.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Don't do that game. That's a breast because you can guess.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
If you want.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm not going to take a bet.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I was twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'm thirty okay, yeah, run well that was a trap
helpful or not?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Not at all?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I thought it was fun.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Set the trap, I thought much to them, the trap happened,
and then you went, that was a trap.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Let's go to Campbell, Paul. Was that a fun bit
of helping because you didn't you didn't fall into the trap?
But was it close?
Speaker 6 (14:21):
I reckon it was a good help.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Thank you. That's what I needed, all right? How was
the experience? I mean, you've been out there looking for love.
It's bloody hard work. Was I mean, it was obviously
something different on Friday night? But how did you enjoy it?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
I really did enjoy it. I'd be happy to do
it again. Unfortunately, just send the message me. I think
the dad too often just saying that she didn't think
she was quite ready for the dating. Well again, so
that's all good, you know, all the best moving forward.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So that's the attitude. I mean, this is the thing,
you've known someone for ten seconds. But I just felt
like at the end of the day you two were
just chatting like you'd known one for a long time.
Did you finish that date feeling as though there could
have been a future?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah, Like we give each other a hargain. We swap
numbers and we talk for a dow or two. But yeah,
she said that I thought I was ready, but I'm
not much. I tried to understand, like my last relationship,
I'm not going to mengine names, but yeah, that was
almost eight years and that didn't end well. It took
me probably a year and a bit to here. As
I said, like I lost the weight from one hundred
and thirty and too aboute hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So fantastic, working a lot of yeh.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Working on myself and yeah, so I understand that a
lot that I've been seeing now for about roughly three years.
So it's like wanting to meet someone I'm being thirty five.
But yeah, and I totally enjoyed it and I'd love
to do it again.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Paul, I've got a question for Gabby because it's not
I know that you're married and you've got a beautiful baby,
but it still doesn't feel like it's that long ago.
Since you're in the dating game, the part where things
might have gone well and then you talk, in the
words of Paul, in other words, message for a couple
of days. Does that accelerate the process and in some
cases maybe take the place of what a second date
might have been once upon a time.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I wouldn't say so, you don't think so. No, it's
just a bit of small talk and chit chat until
you meet again, right, Is that what you think, Paul?
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, I reckon so too, and it can be hard.
Like I was broke to them my nephew about it.
And it's like, once you get someone's attention, you talk
to a minute, the sort of do I talk too much?
Do I not talk enough? It's trying once you get
their attention to hold it and then try and make
sure that stays there and just sort of nurture it.
But I've had times I've been told I'm too chatty.
(16:33):
The times I'm not chatty enough. I'm like you, they
say you need to be more chatty.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
But no, you're just going to be yourself.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yeah, be yourself because the right person will enjoy whatever
you are providing. But Rodi in that question asking if
the chit chat was like a second date, are you
trying to claim a second date from that?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Are you trying to claim success?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm looking for a kick in the windbop for us
any way I can. But Paul's telling me no, mate,
that's absolutely.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I reckon, I reckon, you're a good wing man.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Can we ask though, because I have had some little
intel from a birdie named Chelsea that you have seen
someone else that was on our car wash speed dates
that you may have asked for their number.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yeah, I did, and we sort of chatted. Yes, I
was a bit brought at work, and we'll sort of
are sitting there talking and I think between the nerves
and the excitement, we chatted a bit and she's like,
you're you're a bit keen. You're just cooler jets and
just chat more chatting and got a little quiet like
I know she's got a little girl, so I know
she's busy and she works. So I haven't heard Nick yet,
(17:41):
but back last night slash this morning. But yeah, I'm
playing it cool and yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Your bossy just learned that you're doing this at work.
Wanted to play for cool too, because.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Activities lunch break and yeah, it's fine as long as
you had a job. And if we get a text,
we can with fly sort of fingers like my headers
in my phone, Like that's a.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Good point, you know what, It doesn't matter whether or
not it's what we're pursuing here. Obviously the date with
Jinda didn't land with a second date. You said something
on this date. I want you to listen back to
it because I have a question around it, which is
important I think for any part of the search for
love moving forward, take a listen.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
But no, like I like my movie, isn't that funny enough?
I get if he's asking people this, But a lot
of people like true crime. I don't think people. I
get the worry people think, oh, you know true crime,
you know, but that in horror, Like I really like them.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But I do like comedy too, but everything, Yeah, that's
like on part with me.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
I like true crime as well as comedy, but I
guess dealing with it every day too. It's just that's true.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You two both working in the area of law enforcement
or certainly you know, keeping an eye on the crims.
What worries you about saying that you like true crime?
It's such a popular genre, everyone loves it. What are
you concerned about?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
A certain person that's called Martin Bryant mm hmm from Tasmania,
Port Arthur, the Port Arthur massacre, right, me and him
sharing the last name. It's kind of a are you
related to Martin Bright My god.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, well I did not put that together. But that's
the thing that you've lived with your life as that
is your last name is obviously it's you know, a
diabolical tragedy in one of the you know, it's the
worst massacre in our nation's history. And so that you've
you've felt you've had to carry that burden with you
for your whole life and your love of that genre.
You worry about talking about it and someone else joining
doctor Arte asking that.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
But yeah, just fascinating thing. How it is the cops
put all the puzzles pieces together, and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, it's why people find the genre fascinating. But it's
a perfect example of Okay, you know, if that is
a genre that you're fascinated by. Paul is well researched
in the area, and mate, I reckon, I reckon, You're
a catch. Having spent a little bit of time with
you on Friday night and to you a couple of
times over the journey. So we're going to stay in touch,
(20:03):
fingers crossed that we end up, you know, finding love
together on this journey. You're happy to keep telling us
how it's all going over the coming weeks and months.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And if you guys do it again,
let me know. I'm happy I've used my ring nam again.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Fantastic. Okay, I've been calling the back, calling up again and.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The region I think you'd ever get called back up?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, to be honest, well, nor did I because we can.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
See the video, by the way, this entire date on
our socials at the moment.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
We are zero and three.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Yeah, but you will also see Rod doing his best
Michael Jackson impersonation of eating the popcorn while watching the
date happen in the backseat.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
When the dates going so well, I don't need my help.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
You were just digging into that chigutary board.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
There's a giant thing. There's a tray of food there,
so you know that's only one thing to do.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Is that the voice of the oracle?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
That's right?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Thank you, Ashley, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Gabrielle across Canfra on four point seven.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This is Roden Gabby.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Thank you voice lady, go ahead, Gabrielle.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't know if anyone in the car can even
hear you right now?
Speaker 8 (21:08):
Should we go?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
That's better you would have been whispered to the road noise.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Well, this is it's a new thing that I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's very soothing.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Thank you where I manifest, I've learned of manifestation, manifesting,
and earlier in the week I manifested Picking Duck performing
in Canberra.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Who are joining us on Friday, by the way, So
I'd love to hear what they have to say about that.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Thank you as what they'll say, Thank you Rod for
manifesting our return to the capitol, our hometown. And I
just said, you know what they did?
Speaker 6 (21:42):
You back?
Speaker 8 (21:42):
I would love that, and then within hours they were back.
So in the tradition of my manifesting things.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Sorry, yeah, everyone.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
I would like to in anticipation of the announcement of
the Australia's Top Town Tourism.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Awards Australia Top Tourism Town.
Speaker 8 (22:07):
They're going to make an announcement today and I know
that our region is being represented by bungandor Bus and
so everyone take a moment. Everyone, if there's a city
we manifest and we go this is ours, this is ours, this.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Is our all right?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Can I give a little backg.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
So, a couple of weeks ago we did celebrate the
fact that Bungandor was the Canberra Region Small Tourism Town winner. Yeah,
we had a little laugh about it because we're like, well,
it kind of just rotates because there's not that many
downs to fall into that category that could win. But
I was celebrating being a bunganduriance. I was born and
(22:57):
Bungandor was celebrating. And now they in for that category
in the Australia's Top Tourism Town Awards, which is being
presented at Parliament House this morning. So the small town
category is like less than five thousand people but more
than fifteen hundred. So that's why it's in the small
town category. Not tiny town people.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I'm telling you it's ours. Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
It's ours.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I mean it's ours. The oracle spocuses.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Let's see how we go.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'm on a double.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Imagine if Bung in Door won the Tourism town for
all of Australia.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, it's like manifesting it wins
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