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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They came bounding over.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
What's a procedure. This is Roden Gabby versus the world?
Can the Post be hide our parcel too?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Yeah, well, yesterday I had a parcel hidden.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
And they don't often hide it for me because my doorstep,
my front door is pretty hidden itself, so it's not
necessary to hide the parcel. They normally just leave it
on the front step and off they go. But the
post yesterday decided it was really important to hide the
parcel because I did say leave it in a safe space.
And I got home and I park in the garage
and go into the house via the garage, so I

(00:42):
didn't see it on the doorstep before I go to
the front door from the inside. That happens and open
the front door, and I open the front door and
I'm like.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Where the hell is the parcel? And I'm looking around.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Did you get a note saying it's been delivered?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (00:55):
And we've got like a little wall that it could
have been hidden behind. We've got like a bin, like
a like a My husband bought one of those welly
bins so we could put bottles in there to put
them in for cash. You know, it's recycled bottles for
cash whatever, searching. So I'm searching everywhere and I'm like,
where is it? Just by shiite, I haven't stepped out yet,

(01:18):
and then I step out the door and there is
a crunch under my foot and I looked down and
he has put the parcel under the doormat.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
That's not a hiding place unless it's a key, and
even then we know the key is there because it's flat.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
But if it's not flat, you can't hide it under
the mat.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Luckily, it was just a T shirt, so it was
fairly flat.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
That's why I didn't see it at first, because it
was it was pretty even with the doormat. But the
people who had packaged it had put like one of
those little single surf Timtams in the pastl people that
this is a nice little thanks for shopping with us,
and so that's exactly what.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I stepped up.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
I stepped out the door, and now this Timtam is
shattered under foot in my package.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
No one as they were putting that little tim Tam
in there, Not for a second did they think this
could be disastrous.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Rod and Gabby versus the world, our.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Next guest knows exactly what the Prime Minister went through
as we were taking a look at the footage a
moment ago.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Controversy surrounding the PM after he.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
Did a quick selfie with the coach of the Hawthorne
Football Club and then said nothing and ran for the door.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
He's a rabbit o and you're obliged as a politician
to adopt one of these teams.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
He's not a politician these days.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
University of Canberra bised Chancellor and former Federal Labor leader
Bill shorton Good.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Morning, Good morning Rob, Good morning Gabby.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
How did you go as a Victorian Collingwood supporter once
you started campaigning for the prime minister ship and they said,
once you got to NRL territory, who do you go for?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
The Melbourne Storm, of course is one of the most
successful in our teams in history, even.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
When they lost their taken off them.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
So the Storm they were always very good. But now
I'm up in Camber. You got them at the Raiders
are having a great season.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, this is the thing now that Canberra is home.
Is it a team switch for you? We're going to
see you in Green.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
No, I'm very happy for the Raiders. Raiders are now
my second team.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
We're allowed to have second teams. That's fine.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Bob Hawk's and fantastic, famous old photos of him in
the sheds down It's seafor Oval by the way, after
the game with Malmaninger, but as a Bayside Victorian boy,
he didn't know anything about it. But you've got to
adopt where you are, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Well so we also have the Brumbies who have their
home base at UC University of Canberra, so be to
a few of those games. I've got to go to
the Lions game. We came second, But that's life.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
It's interesting you bring that up. So you've been to
our stadium. You're a labor man. We have a labor
government here. And if we do think back to those
campaign commitments of years past, I know you were keen
to get that new stadium up in Townsville, and while
that's happened now, how do you feel about the prospect
of the same thing for here.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I did campaign for the Townsville stadium. I was
the first federal leader to back it in and I
think around November twenty fifteen I was in Townsville.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Not so long that it's been built.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh, it's beautiful. I was there for the opening when
Elton John opened it up.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, they didn't put my name on a plaque.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Never mind, Well, there's still time to get your name
on a park at the new Camera Stadium.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
If the Chief Minister calls you for some advice or
you see him down the shops, what advice do you
give him?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Should we have a new stadium here?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
A new stadium would be nice to have, But I
think you've got some challenges around debt and other things.
So I suspect my first advice would be provide some
resources for you.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
See and that is and that is you know where
the buck stops for you. Now, after one of the
most extraordinary careers in Australia political history, are you are you?
Are you coming back? Was this a phase you've gone?
You know what, I'm going to do a career change.
I'll go to the USA and it's time to come
back to politics.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or are you all in here?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm all And I've moved up to Canberra, so I
live here, So I'm a Canberan. You know, increasing net migration.
I'm glad there were no much for Australia people who
had me moving to Canberra. Some of them, not just so. Yeah,
I'm all in.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm really enjoying Camera. It's a different world. Camera is
my second city. Of course, Friday years, I'm commuting here.
But it's a different world.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
When you live here.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And I have to say, it's like I can see again,
you know, the bush atmosphere of this city, the is
of getting around it.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
It's it's special.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Winter's a little cold, I'll give you that, but other
than that, it's I'm loving living here.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
I've been all over your Instagram and you are loving
the kangaroo population at you see at the moment your
little mates over there. How does your dog Walter go
with the resident kangaroos.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Maybe Eastern gray kangaroos, but there's some big units. Yeah,
a twelve pack on one fella. A wilder leads from
the rear.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
He's a big unit. For those who aren't familiar with Walter,
he is a bulldog.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
So I think if a kangaro saw him coming, they
feel confident in the knowledge they could outrun him.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, he occasionally stalks magpies. They're my AFL team. But
watching him walk, he's sort of he's thirty kegs that
he's a solid unit walder and he sort of stalks them.
But he's so far behind the magpies at the start,
and when they start flying, he's just bewildered.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
What's the U see? We see him on the insta
in at work. Everyone's happy to have him.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
There, I think, so, I mean, I get that if
you've never grown up with dogs. I'm very conscious that
if people have never grown up with dogs, sometimes a
dog is quite confronting. Some very mindful of that, but
most people love having In fact, everyone loves se him,
see him having Walter around. He comes to work me
a couple of days a week. He's a productivity, you know,

(07:02):
he's like he's almost.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Like the real VC. He gets the advice, he's the
real vice chancellor. He gets all the attention. You need.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
To get a puto of him in the hat and
the cape, you.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Can do things.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I've thought about sort of dressing him up in a
bit of.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
UC merch as the mascot of you see what's but
as an educator and as a pseudo mascot of U
s Now as well? How hands on are you having
the opportunity to be? If we go to the open
day in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Will you be manning one of the trestle tables and
talking us through courses.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah. The open day's coming up on the twentyth. Everyone
is welcome.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's not just for kids in year eleven and twelve
and ten. We'd like the adults to come. There's going
to be stuff for the under tens. Not that we're
recruiting them, but we're interested in their parents. So there'll
be a lot of different activities. It's between nine and three,
but I'll certainly be there. People can find out about
is it easy to go back to studies? So for kids,
we're saying, just have a look at the interesting things

(08:00):
that you can do here. For some it'll be they
might be the first and family to think about university.
You are so welcome. We're also putting on a music concert,
so we've got camera artists. A headline act is Jack River.
She'll be performing. So we want to turn into more
like a free family day.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
And for those.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Adults who might have, you know, at sixteen, thought they
couldn't wait to get out of school, but now in
their late twenties, thirties, forties, early fifties, they might say, well,
oh maybe just come along and kick the tires. It's
no embarrassment. There's plenty of adults. And as I said,
you can park your kidszev and with the face painting

(08:38):
and the animal zoos and all of that sort.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Of stuff, and you can have a look around.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
We were talking earlier this.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Morning around my lack of focus during geography and my
love of it now geography at school i'm at and
how much do you find there because you said, listen,
bring the ten year olds, but as far as the
mature age students who might have found these things that
they're passionate about they just didn't connect with when they
were kid.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it is the lad of opportunities.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
The atar or the mark that you've got at sixteen
or seventeen, by the time you're in your thirties doesn't.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Matter, right, you've lived a life.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
So what we look at is when students supply when
they're adults, you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Necessarily enroll in a full degree.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
We're going to offer micro credentials, so you could just
do a subject you might think is useful to your work.
The other thing is that we want to look at
your prior learning. See for example, if you're a public servant,
you've served in defense, or you've been a contractor, you
will have a or if you've worked as a disability
care you will have some life experience in learning, which
frankly means that when you come back to Union I

(09:40):
don't want you to start at the beginning again, because
you've already lived a life. So we will try and
give you an academic value or credit for what you've
already done. Just come and kick the tight. The other
beauty of that is that the courses are then quicker
to do, and that don't cost as much.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Nicemar really quickly before we let you go, Bill, at UC,
you have some great concerts come through. You said there'll
be one for UC open Day. But then we've also
got wheat its coming right, So are you going to
be their front and center?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I don't know all right, but you did say that
you did geography. Here's a quick geography quiz. Here we
go a look at the panic listeners in his eyes,
they're darting around. Is there a land border between Victoria
and Tasmania? A land border.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Between Victoria and Tasmania? Yeah, how can they be? There's bastraight.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, we'll get this. When they were drawing up the line,
they thought it was just water.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
But there's a little set of islands called boundary islands.
So literally there's a four acre island in the middle
of bas Strait which is bisected.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
By the border. No way, that is a useless fact.
No one needed to know.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think you.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Like geography. You'd like that if your.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
Cars on that boat that goes in between that used
to be called the able Tasma. I don't don't know
what it's called now. The captain needs to know that.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
The poor old Tasmanian government, they ordered the fairies, but
they're too big for the wharf.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Never mind, that's a separate issue to a landlocked place like.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
The Tasmanian government in itself is a whole other episode
of the show. We'd love to chat to throose sorts
of things within the future.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Good luck. September twenty the UC Open Days.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
See everyone there and you're officially a can beer and
we'll get you in a green jersey soon enough. The
global profanity rankings and Australia has always fared well, I mean,
depending on how you like to define well.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Well.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
We love to win with whatever number one that's a
good thing, right.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
All right? And they're in for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
They are in and the first line reads, could this
be the final humiliation for this once proud country?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Because we have not come in a number one? See
you just on the profanity table.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Give us the headline again.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
That's the first line of the the first line, Could
this be the final humiliation for this one's proud country?

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Depending on who you are, we could have ranked first, yeh,
or we could have ranked last.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's true. I'm not entirely sure, but it sounds as
though we've dropped.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
We have dropped, so we used to be number one
back a few years ago, but we're number.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Three behind America and the UK. We're coming in at
number three.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
So the way that they did this is they were
looking for all forms of vulgarity online, like in ransom
rapes or just general conversation. And it turns out when
it comes to typing, Britain and the UK come out
on top. And I actually think that has more to

(12:35):
do with them being winges than it does anything else,
because and.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
You're going to receive a well typed burruh.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Because when they looked a little further and they said
Australia's love of vulgarity and swear words in particular, he's very.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Evident in public life. The public airing.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Of swear words is something that is often remarked upon
by people that visit, and Australia has a wide arrange
of mid level swear words. Right, So they're even classing
things like blockhead, which was a swear word in the
fifteen hundreds, So even things like silly things like that
are included in this list.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
What about ding dong a good one.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I'm sure that'll be classed in there as well.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
I commit to calling someone at ding Dong before the
morning is through.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I would appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
It's not me that's a bit much.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, they called the.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Block content contestants blockheads, so that that could be construdest,
a rude word.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
That annoys me. Why Scotty.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
I think Scotty just annoys me generally. I feel Scotty's
always many great guests and he's.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
A lovely bloke, but this is a noisy lately.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
I think he's off it, he's over it, and I
get that right, and I watched that, you know, and
he would forget him.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Anyway, back to the profanity.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Before we start being too profane.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
So there are new words as old words.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
There's a huge range of words. But when it does
come to the preferred words, Americans prefer the other word
for donkey.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
That's their favorite one.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
You're an ass.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Brits are most free with bloody, which I found interesting
because that's in all of our campaignings, so surely Australia
would have taken that one on.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's not even a swear word.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Mate, And in Australia the most common one is the
F bomb.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Are we shocked?

Speaker 6 (14:31):
So out of the three, we all could tell the
two that I could say, we win.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
We win. It's about quality, not any come on number one.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
A great guest on the show later on, just an
hour away from a University of camera, vised Chancellor and
former federal labor leader Bill is Shortened dropping.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
In and he's going to make the decision.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
He's the labor man in town, not our chief minister.
He'll decide if we're getting a new stadium. He gave
one to Townsville. Oh, let's see whether or not he
can help us out when he joins us an hour
from now and shortly why you shouldn't sneak up on
a giant seven foot man.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I mean something you'd have thought.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
You'd have thought, but we have footage that doesn't suggest
that actually shows someone not.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Realized Rodin Gabby versus.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
The World producer Chelsea Gooday, Hello, as our resident gen
Z keep an eye on things that we need to know,
and I'm interested that you're not alone. This is happening
in workplaces, not just around Australia but around the world.
And so there's been a gen Z Developer boot camp
for Gabby's gen wives.

Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yeah, so for millennials or gen wise.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, jenex as, we just observe you just like.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
We can take these on board this boot camp too.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
You know's being.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Cool of journeys.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
It's never cooler day in my life, but some genses
were cool, so they might pay attention to this.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
So this TikTok called Janelle has taken to social media
to just say, we need a boot camp for millennials
on social media because you just know, like when there's
a millennial on social media, some of the things that
you guys do not pointing fingers Gabby.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Representative of Y.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
So a few of the things that would come up
in this boot camp are just how you'd go about
texts on an Instagram story. So the ones to use
and ones not to use?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
It's the font, the font, yes, yeah, some fonts that
aren't cool to use Bubble.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
No, no, lot to use bubble.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
So the font that you put over the video or photo.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, on your story. I love bubble.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm struggling to keep up.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
All right, So there's of course you get different fonts
when everyone knew that.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So some of them don't use them.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
Though, No, some of them don't use the fonts.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Is there a concern around legibility? Is that why you
wouldn't use that font because it's difficult to read?

Speaker 5 (17:19):
No, it's a cool factor, not cool like an academic factor.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's moments like this.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
But I've never been happy and not part I want
to be cool if this is what it takes to
be cool.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You guys are.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Going on Instagram it's all yours.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, that is how uncool I am, so dog. It's
not to do with legibility.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
No, it's not cool man.

Speaker 8 (17:44):
Cool aesthetics and the way that it looks.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah something who's coming around my way thinking all of
a sudden, All right, next.

Speaker 8 (17:53):
Week, okay, the next one. You guys were speaking about
not that long ago, but the phrases I'm dead, I'm deceased,
I'm sick, I'm screaming, I'm throwing up all they're good
things that if someone comments that on your photo, they're like, wow,
you look really good. I'm dead, you look so good.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
The skull the skull is sick.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Yeah, I feel sick. You look that good.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I tell you, gay, I feel like, okay, i'm looking
at you today. I feel violently ill. Is that good?
That's good? Right?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
That sounds terrific.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm doubling over in pain.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, that good word.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
The sheer sight of you makes me ill.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
The way you're saying it. And that's not a compliment.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, don't blame me, mates.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah, and this boot camp. And then the last one
is that the word sleigh is now not being used
in a good way. It's more of a sarcastic like, oh,
that's that's slay, but that's so slay. It's like a
sarcastic thing.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I've never used the word sleigh in my long some people.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Do just use me. That's a pivotal moment when someone
says to you at your aim. It's a little bit
like if Gabby tripped. It'd be described as having a form.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Oh dear, how dare you.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Were learning that the Brisbane Broncos have filmed their knowledge
about camera before they come down to the big game
on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I've just had this sent through here.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
We haven't seen this, okay, So they've gone to training
and they've interviewed the players as they look forward to
the big Green Machine home final on Sundays.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
He is going to be embarrassing for them.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'm guessing. I'm guessing. Let's see Camber knowledge us.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Can you name one thing you actually like about Canberra?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
The Parliament House could be worse. Everyone relax, I'll turn
on them just yet.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Jesse Arthurs, tell me something that you actually like about Canberra?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Uh, Jesse, come on, Jesse.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
And I can't think of anything.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Can Stags will bring this home.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Here we go, Staggs, tell me one thing that you
like about Camera.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I can't tell you.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
But they're embarrassing themselves.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
All right, We're going to give them one more jams.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm getting mad? Is this I wasn't already mad enough?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is this a good strategy going into the.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Summer, especially when there's going to be a sea of
green already booing you and.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I like their what's that like? It's a mint color
training jump.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
And they've got there big gaming camera this weekend. Can
you tell me one thing that you actually like about
the city of Canberra? The government the Government house there,
it's actually quite clean and quite nice.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Listen, it doesn't even called government house. We do have
a government house. He's he's not talking about all right.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
The Broncos have fawn over and so if they take
that type of forming on Sunday, we are going to destroy.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Them, which would be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I it, I'm so mad, Producer Chelsea has said.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
As far as the video posted by the Brisbane Broncos
in anticipation of the game here at Goeo Stadium on Sunday,
keep playing it gets funnier.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
So far, no one has said anything good about Cambra.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
If you've just joined us.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
The Broncos players are being asked what they know about Camberra,
what they like about the.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
One thing they like about camber and a lot of
them are saying nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
All right.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Ben Hunter just said milk. So we're known for that
camber milk. We don't have it really anymore. But he
doesn't know that that's the best answer so so far.
The Government House was an answer before all right, let's
see what else happens.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Actually, not too bad, Patty Carrigan, Can you tell me
one thing that you like about camera?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
The football team.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Smart?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's smart. Good one, because our footy team's listening and
the fans and they're firing up.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah, and so it's And by the way, Paddy Water,
he's like, he looks like who's the thorn?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, he does look like thorn. I was going to
say the merman. What's his name?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Aquaman?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
It looks like Aquaman's good looking.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Aquaman had a baby it's carrying.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
And can you tell me what city or sorry, what
state or territory of the city of Canberra is in state?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Okay, this is we're not going to they've been bars.
They put this up. By the way, they chose to
put this up.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
They don't know their national capital is in the act.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
They live in Brisbane. They know the Gold Coast is
up the right.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
That's all at the beginning of the end of their
their geography knowledge
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