October 13, 2021 • 39 mins
The recruits gave everything they had but only one person passed selection. Enough about Sam though - what about the people's champion?? Merrick and Sabrina debrief with Jana Pittman about the highs and lows of her time on show, the pain of narrowly missing out on selection, and her surprising future career plans. Also, we look back on the bold predictions made at the beginning of the season. Who got the most correct? Make sure you watch season two of SAS Australia on Channel 7 and 7plus.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi there. I'm Merck Watts here with Sabrina Frederick. This
is the SAS Australia Debrief. Well, we've reached the end
of season two of SAS Australia and what a ride
it has been. There were eighteen celebrity recruiters started out,
but only three made it to the final challenge. Sabrina,
are you sad it's all over?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You know, it's been really nice watching these guys get there.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Kid, It's good, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And also just having that insight of knowing how hard
it actually is. It's been a really really good watch
this season.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Out of all the challenges that we've seen over this
second season, what's the one that you wish that you
could have had a crack at?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh, just one that's hard, that is hard.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'd probably say the car under the water for me, definitely.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Me Toobutamy wanted to get gassed and then I went, nah,
the car, you know, because the water looks so blue
and I was like, that's like a tropical resort there.
That's the closest I'm going to get to it, So
I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Absolutely, the car challenge was awesome, A great test for
mental composure and physical ability. Absolute big tick for me.
Coming up on this episode, one of our favorites, Yanna Pittman,
will be dropping by. She's going to talk about her
exit from the show and do we agree with the
final DS selection. Our thoughts on that soon, let's get
into it. Well, Episode twelve is all about drive. Now,
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this shouldn't be confused with ambition or goal setting. It's different, Sabrina,
Do you want to explain what drive means in this context?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
When you're exhausted, you've got nothing, It's that motivation. It's
that last bit of motivation that keeps you going. It's
probably your purpose for being there on this course, and
when you're exhausted, tired and hungry, it's the one thing
that you have to tap into to get yourself through.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, the first challenge is a timed helicopter ladder extra.
This looks deceptively easy on TV, but it's dangerous and
it's hard new Sabrina. You and I have climbed up
those little ladders in training. It's not in water, not wet,
and it is pretty tricky to masteries and particularly with
boots on.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it's extremely difficult and definitely deceiving. One thing that
I didn't realize when climbing rope ladder like that is
you're using your leg strength more than your arms. If anything,
you're using your arms to stabilize yourself, but it's all
within your leg strength. So in this scenario, if your
legs you know they've lost it, this is probably the
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last thing you want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, the boys did well here. John Stephenson, he was
up a like a you know, like a wrap it
up a drain pipe. I don't even know if that's
the thing they do. Do rabbits do that. Let's just
say they do, because he would have been like that.
For me. Stefo until this point had been a bit
of a gray man. And to explain what a gray
man is, it's somebody who is kind of not really
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bobbing their head up too much in the early part,
kind of keeping a reasonably low profile, but it is
consistently chipping away. I certainly went in to Sas Australia
thinking that I would play the gray man. It was
something that I wanted to do. But the problem is
with the gray man is if you peak too late,
if you don't show enough until towards the end that
you might just be a little bit too gray. Do
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you reckon Stefo has left his run a little bit
late there?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think if you don't give enough, and like you said,
if you leave it almost too late, it's unfortunate for
you because you obviously are capable, but you're not giving
enough to plead your case to passing selection.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, you've got to shine at the right moments. And
I think that he did shine certainly up that ladder.
I was very impressed, but well, you know, you're pretty
much at the end of the course. Will it be
enough to get over on? You know, at that stage
I was not sure. There was also a bit of
dan ewing for the fans at home. I know he
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makes for great entertainment, but I'm just going to pull
out one quite Sabrina, which was I'm addicted to bettering myself? Now?
Is this dan Ewing at his best? Or do you
reckon like he truly is There's a compulsion in Dan
that drives him forward. That is the drive that we're
seeing in this episode, which is about bettering himself. Is
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that his motivation?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, I'm definitely seeing moments with him pop up
that I can see why he has said he's addicted
to bettering himself. He's put himself in an environment where
he's really going to be tested, and he is committing
to those tasks. Whether he fails or passes, he really
is committing to himself. However, as much as we love
Dad saying out loud that you're addicted to bettering yourself,
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you know self love is always good, So we'll just leave.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
He's addicted to that. He's done very very well to
get to this part of the core. Regardless of your background,
if you've got this far, you've been able to endure.
And full credit to him, But you know, I'm addicted
to bettering myself. I don't know I would have said
something else.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeha.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
She's been a favorite of ours the entire time. At
this point of the course, she was really struggling to
get up that ladder. She's exhausted physically and looks as
though mentally as well. She got there with just three
seconds remaining, and then she hugs Aunt Middleton, which I
thought was hilarious. She went he for a little bit
of a cuddle. There only recruit to do so I think,
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did you think that she was pretty borderline with this one.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, you can tell that by this stage in the course,
she's physically exhausted. She was really really close to missing
out on that task and cutting it very fine with
the clock. She's just had a baby six months ago. Like,
that's pretty impressive in itself, but you know, we don't
give handouts in this course unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, and look, you know, she's the only female to
ever get up one of those rope ladders out of
the water, you know, Ant Middleton pointed that out. It's
an incredible feat.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Watching her dig deep and knowing that she was doing
it to prove a point. When you accomplish something like that,
it definitely puts women out there on a platform and
that's going to encourage other women and young girls to
aspire to do the same thing. So for me watching her,
I mean, I was super proud watching it.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, totally. I think it's great for her to get
so far into a course, given that her age, her background,
and the fact that she's just had a newborn. It
is absolutely outstanding. Let's have a chat about the assault course.
It's designed to break you down to the last it's
really just juice out that lemon. You've got nothing left
to give. I think that this was tough, but I
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don't know that it was brutal.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I think I can agree.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, this course was designed for it to keep
going basically until someone their armband in, and I think
it got cut short and to some degree, I think
they got a little bit lucky.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean, look on the aur Assault course, Aeron
McNaught was literally physically broken down, like her shoulder was
completely cooked. She was injured going into it, and it
was literally just sandbags and waight that broke her out.
It was punishing because it was very, very cold. We
had to go through a freezing cold river and I
remember getting a touch of hypothermia on the way back
as a result of being in that cold water and
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exposed to it. It's not about comparing the two different
seasons and who's tougher. But I agree I reckon that
they were lucky that it was called at two rounds.
A third one, I reckon Stepho would have been a
massive trouble and Yarner would have been out.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
To be honest, throughout the whole assault course, I felt
like the only one that was completely comfortable was Sam.
He was the absolute standout in that. Yeah, definitely, I mean,
Scud was there. Mark Philippus was plowing through at a
very slow rate, like a bull plowing a feel slow
and steady.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Wins the race.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But he's there, He's there. But you're right. Sam Burgess
was absolutely on form. Step I peaked early and then
you know, after two rounds was in real strife. So
I think they were lucky. But it was really good
seeing them get through and you know, keeping the recruits
there because otherwise would have only been down to three
at that stage. Coming up, we lost two strong contenders
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for selection early in episode thirteen. We talk about those
recruits next. So episode thirteen Sabrina's Determination. The final episode
sees five recruits, Yanna, Stepho, Sam Dan and the Scud.
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The episode starts with the capturing and the interrogation of
the recruits. This challenge is all about situational awareness.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
One of the main focuses they sort of bring to
your attention quite early is the attention to detail. You know,
especially in the military sense. If you get captured, you
need to know where you are, see him, buy yourself time.
Something as simple as finding the directions, knowing how many
left turns you're taking in a car, right turns, you know,
registration plates, all of those little bits of detail that
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could actually result in saving your life in the end
of it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The situational awareness and understanding your environment is critical, and
it's something that you have to start with from the
get go. You need to be alert to what is
around you for danger, but also to just looking at
things that look like they might be out of place.
Why is that there? Be suspicious? Be curious even about
why things are there, Like, there's nothing that happens on
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that show that doesn't have a reason or a purpose.
So if you see a number, if you see a
license plate, if you're exposed to anything, it's for a reason.
Once everybody was captured and they're taken in for interrogation,
let's have a look at how they individually did. Yanna,
I think you did okay, but I expected her to
be a bit sharper thoughts.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yep, I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think that she's been consistent throughout this whole thing,
So when she was reeling off different parts of information,
I knew she could retain it. We'd seen that in
the task where they were thrown into the ice and
she could recall that information quite confidently, So I knew
that she could do that. I think she probably let
me down a little bit. I thought she'd be able
to be confident throughout the whole thing, but I think
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she did quite well there.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I think it was just fatigue and also too,
I think the expectation from all of us as viewers
is that she has nailed everything. Yeah, so you just
expect her to nail this, but the fatigue is really
massively at play now, and the fatigue slows down your mind. Steffo,
he actually did okay. He was just a little off
on some of the details.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Again, it's probably coming back to how he's been throughout
the whole course so far, Like he has his shining moments,
but he's probably just not being consistent enough.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Sam, he was comfortable with the exercise entirely, but also
too in the interrogation. He seemed to be able to
recall quite.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
A lot, and I think he also registered straight away
the situation and he knew exactly what he needed to do.
You almost saw it almost makes sense in his mind.
He knew that this is what he needed to do,
and he just Yeah, he relaid that information off like
it was no problem.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Scud. I love the Scud, but he was not great here.
He just seemed rattled. And that's worrying in itself, isn't
it Like if you if you're rattled. Yeah, that's a
worrying sign for how far you can go.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, it's hard because I love him too, but these
are the major red flags that the dis would be seeing.
You know, he's quite gladly getting captured and taking in
no details around him whatsoever. You know, in their environment,
he'd be gone, like he wouldn't be alive because he
hasn't taken anything at all. And we saw that in
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one of the tasks, you know, on the team tasks
where they had to let themselves free. He was quite
gladly just sitting there waiting for the others to let
let him go.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Sabrini's just sitting there just going, I think Sabrina is
coming back for me.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And then.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And when you did the right Scott's going, oh my god,
she's done it. Yeah, she's done it again.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
She's left to.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Look I think that. Yeah, it's a bit it's a
bit of a worry for the Scud. But he's so
likable that you just want to see him. Go on, Dan,
here we go the final recruit. It was like watching
a car crash. It really was what do you think
was going on here? He's completely it appears that he's
completely misread the play. Maybe it's seen that the first
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series that we were in, but he didn't register that
the DS were scrutinizing him, not necessarily interrogating. It wasn't
a play act. He was being asked real information. How
badly did he get that problem?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I feel for him in the sense that, you know,
I think watching past seasons do trip you up, and
I think it did in our season quite early with
one of the shooting tasks that we had going off
for past and that is a big mistake, and that
the DS are almost knowing that you're looking for that stuff,
and he didn't quite He didn't quite realize that this
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is not a game. Not realize and by the time
he did, I think it was too late. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Look, I think he just made an error in judgment
of what the situation was. And to be honest, so
many people could make that, you know, assumption that they're
they're there to play act, that there to deliver misinformation.
I think that's where he was kind of going.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The DS were clearly getting angry, and I was sitting
there going, I'm getting scared just sitting and watching. I
could only imagine what it felt like sitting in that
chair across from them.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You know, what they needed there, They needed to get
one of those clappable you see in movies with it Okay, Dan, Sorry,
this is real. Okay, there, they're not No, they're not
acting okay, and take two and dance away. And then
he would have knowiled it. But look, like I said,
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so many people would have made the same era. So yeah,
I mean I wouldn't be one of them, but he okay.
I think this leads into the conversation about Dan being
cut from the course. Do you reckon that this is
the reason he got let go?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I actually don't.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I don't think that that specific scenario was why he
got cut. I think when they make a decision like this,
it's normally a build up over a few days, and
something is the last straw. And I think maybe that
was the last straw. But I think there's been a
few instances where I feel like he just can't let
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some things go and he hasn't fully fully embraced everything,
and in this scenario, bringing that story to the player
not really understanding what's going on, I think almost shone
more of a light on him.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Unfortunately, what do you think.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I thought that he could have gone right to the end.
I think that I don't know that he would have
passed the selection. I don't think that would have given
him that pass because he'd irritated Billy and the other
ds way too much. And ultimately, as you know, the criterias,
would they fight alongside you? I reckon that that would
have been a bit of a block some of the
you know, the questioning and answering stuff, that might have
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been a block. But I think he was capable. I
really do. Like I reckon Dan would have been hanging
from the rope at the very end. I reckon he
would have done his ninety seconds on that right. I
think he had a wicked determination and I'd like to
have sent him to it, to be honest. So for
the remaining recruits, they've got the extraction challenge to get through.
This is of course, where they have to go and
get some intelligence. Then they have to be extracted via
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helicopter on a rope. It's pretty physically demanding exercise, but
also to it's at the pointy end of the competition,
it's hard. Okay, So both teams managed to get to
the extraction point in time, and it shouldn't be underestimated.
Those burgens that they're carrying way about twenty ties and
they were having to run through that scenario with explosions
going off and having to race to the helicopter carrying
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an extra twenty kilos when you're already pretty naked. It's
not an easy task to do. But despite finishing successfully
in that task, Yanna was cut. Why do you think
it was her and not Stefo?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, honestly, in that moment, my heart just dropped, you know,
I almost I knew it was coming, but I also
didn't want it to happen. I was torn, and I
felt like maybe the DS were as well. I think
they wanted her to be there in the end, but
I think they knew they had to take someone out
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and she's been struggling. She had been the last day
or so, and you have to take that into account
because I think that physically she like I don't even
know she would have done that rope hang been quite honest,
and they knew what was coming up and she physically
she was not there.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing. They know what's coming forward,
and I think that it got to the point where
you know, there would be a level of concern about
their well being.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I was kind of surprised that Stepo got through from that,
just given I thought that Stepo and Yanna might go
in that same moment. I think Stepo lived to fight
another day. Disappointing, unfortunate, but that is what SAS Australia
is about. It is about giving everything you've got to
the very very end until you've got no more and
then it's done. So how does Yanna feel about her
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time on Essays Australia. She'll be joining us next Well,
she was definitely a fan favorite, not just amongst us
as the podcast, but also to with the general public.
Yanna Pittman joins us on the show. Congratulations Yanna on
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how far you went in this course.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Coming from you, that's a real compliment, So thanks Mark.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Amazing job.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Honest, Yanna, it's amazing to have you on America and
I have loved watching you during this course. For me,
you were my pick and from the beginning, I just
there's something about you. I was just ready to watch
and really I was genuinely really proud watching you at
the end and gut it. I was screaming at the television,
going no, please keep her on. But I as a fan,
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I just need to know.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I need to know.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I'm sure Australian needs to know what motivated you to
get on this course, like what was your reasoning?
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Well, as you both probably know, I wanted to be
on it with you guys last year and then whoopsie
days you got pregnant. Missed that opportunity and I'm probably,
you know, pretty lucky because I don't like the cold
so much and what horrific.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Cold, so it probably got out lightly there.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
But yeah, huge cutos to you guys too, having been
through the course before and obviously passing. It's just massive
to be able to talk to you both. And I
know I spoke to you America afterwards because we met before,
but massive hats off to you both now that I've
done it and how horribly hard it is. My motivation
to Brinda was probably one my brother. He's an ex
ff Ghani veteran, so I really wanted to know. I
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guess a little bit of an insight of what he
went through. He never did sas selection, but a lot
of similar type of courses for his training. And I've
secretly always wanted to be in the army, so I
guess it was my chance to have a little fear
I'm getting a bit old to probably do it for
the real deal. I have joined the Army reserves, but
you know, full time army is probably not my not my.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Deal, Yanda, what did you join the Army reserve about.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Six months ago?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wow, Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I knew I wanted to do it, but coming back
from doing this course was definitely the final Yes, this
is it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I want to do this for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
That's amazing, It's really awesome. I'm really looking forward to
hearing how that goes with the course, though. I just
you've just given birth six months ago. How was it
leaving Charles at home?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like? What was that like for you?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
It was tough, and I knew that was going to
be one of my weaknesses. And there was definitely a
few moments throughout the show and I didn't show it.
There was one particular time where I said to Ant
I can't do this anymore. I really need to go
home to my babies. And it was actually just after
they asked us to talk about what our worst moments,
so our biggest shameful event, and that was when I
talked about the finances and had that epiphany of a moment, thinking,
here I am again chasing another goal of my own
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when my kids are at home, and I was so
close to withdrawing, and he said, you can't do this,
you can't stop now. What's the difference between two or
three more days, four more days and leaving right now?
What are you going to prove to yourself?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You know?
Speaker 6 (20:29):
And it was a really encouraging message. What I'm showing
women back at home is that you are capable of
doing all these extraordinary things if you put your mind
to it and balance.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
And the balancing act is real.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It's hard for males and females who are parents, but
it's definitely something that's possible if you wanted enough.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So, yeah, it wasn't easy to Sabrina.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Definitely for mum Joan. I mean, obviously you know I'm
a parent, but I know that you know there's a
certain type of relatability with parents, but definitely one with Marvel's.
You know, you really struck a chord there, not just
because it's so that you've had your last child, but
because you're a bit of a lightning rod for mums
who can do more than what is expected of them.
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And I know that you must have felt that you
were carrying that as well.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I did, and I felt that I felt it almost
as a support, like I was being held up by
the other by other women going through it and knowing
that I would be painted in that light in that
there'd be people supporting it and wanting to believe in
themselves and coming up against all these answers and people
telling them they can't and why why would you try
and do this when you have a six to eight
month old at home? And I have, I've had an
unbelievably overwhelmingly beautiful support from the public thus far, sending
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me messages at home saying I feel inspired to get
off and do this. I feel like I lost myself
in the first few months after having a baby, and
you know, you've pushed me to go back to the gym,
and you know, even if it's only a small change,
they're making their life to feel better about themselves. That's
so amazing And hopefully as a result, if they feel
stronger in who they are, then they're going to be
better parents, and they're going to give more to their children,
and they're going to be more available emotionally to their kids.
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So to be part of that change and to be
pushing that women can do this alongside being great parents
is I'm inspired to be part of that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
For me, that just that strikes a nerve because I
carried that with me as well, not on the parenting scale,
but very much so for females.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And and does it gives you strength?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It really does give you strength because you feel like
you're not only fighting for yourself, you're fighting for all
the other people that you just want them to be
who they are and achieve what they want to achieve.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
You did that for me, Sabrina, And I've told you that.
There were so many times where I'm like, well, Sabrina's
done it.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Come on, women can do this. Stop that bellving in
your own self and hurry up. Sabrina did it before?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I appreciate that. I genuinely do.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I mean I didn't give birth since months ago before that,
but I do appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I really do the part in the course where you
got cut.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Honestly, for me, it was like an arrow getting shot
through my heart.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean I could only imagine what it would have
been like for you standing there.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
What did that feel like for you? Talk to us
a little bit about that moment. You feel like it
was your time to go.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Look, I didn't feel like it was my time to go.
I was obviously a bit shocked.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Initially, it didn't take long for me to realize that
of the four that was left, it was the right
decision for the DS, so if they needed someone to go,
particularly on that day and actually the day before as
well as you saw when I sort of passed out
in the fitness challenge, I was at my end, Sabrina.
I've run out of gas, like as in, there is
only so much my body could have pushed through, and
I was on empty, like completely not mentally I still
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had it in my head, but physically I was just blown.
So I tried hard to run with Like on the
last challenge, we ran so much with the pack, and
every part of my body said, you need a little break.
You're going to literally keel over again. And I was
worried the same thing had happened the day before. I
actually passed out, like I've just got to get to
the end. I'm not quitting. I'm not quitting. I'm never stopping.
Just don't quit, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
And they told us the.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Day before that it's not only about how fit you are,
it's the thinking soldier as well. So I guess I
was relying, come on, just think through this. This is
going to be a very very long day. Commit just
keep going. How do I know the end was a
little bit earlier and we were going to come off
the chopper and that was going to kind of be
the end of that running exercise. Perhaps I could have
dug it a little bit deeper, but that's hindsight as well.
At the time, I thought I was going to die.
So it's like, you never mind.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I definitely have those moments where you think you're going
to die on the.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Cost if you've been on that show and you haven't
actually thought to yourself, I'm going to die. You know
what you aren't a member of the crew is where
you are.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Even Brinn thought she was going to die and that
was at the publicity issue. So yeah, I'm really keen
to touch on something because you know you said it.
There the thinking soldier for me. You are the thinking
soldier more than anyone else for me. But I have
to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I saw a crack, a frailty on your last morning
when you're eating breakfast, and you questioned yourself for the
first time, did you feel that crack? Did you notice that?
And kind of have a realization that I'm in trouble here.
I've got to either push through this or this could widen.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
It's funny say that mark, because I obviously started feeling
the crack when I pass out in that fitness but
I also felt it mentally because my memory is normally
very good, so I'm usually able to recall things very well,
and because they actually turned that into a memory exercise.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Again, I was flawed that I couldn't remember those things.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
And now part of it was because I was petrified,
Like watching you guys last year go through that scared the.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Hell out of me. So I was literally the minute
that bag went on my head, I'm like, oh my god,
here we go. I'm so scared. I don't like dogs
barking and all that horrible stuff that I were about
to put you through.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
But I noticed then that my mind was starting to
slip too. So that was where, as you say, the
cracks started for me. And so there was a lot
of self talk happening, which I was which normally I'm
very very good at stepping away from. And I guess,
looking back on it now, it's because I wasn't as
physically fit, so I had to draw on that mental
strength for so many of the days. So they said
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you were going to live minute by minute, I was
living second by second by the last day, just holding on.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean, that's why we all sign up for the course.
We want to be pushed to an absolute limit to
see where that limit is so then we can grow
as well. In terms of regrets, you know you've touched
on physically, you don't think that you were probably at
your best? Do you think maybe that's you regret maybe
some of your preparation. Do you think that you could
have given a bit more to help you on this course?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I had no more time, to be honest, Serena, So
I probably I had a plan. So I did a
training program as a bet you guys did too, of
what I wanted to do, and I knew I knew
right before I had the baby that I was going
to be doing the course, so theoretically I had five
and a half months. But you do forget the postpartum period.
You forget you know, if you do parenting soon, then
you know that there's a period of time where your
body can't do anything, so you can walk and run.
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And so I planned to run with my bergen from
at least six weeks out, and I actually never got
to running with my bergen so the body wouldn't allow it.
So I actually went on to the course having never
run with the burgen on my back, whereas last year
America I was able to run five k's in a
row with a twenty kilo bergen on my back. So
it's just a different preparation. But the thing is what
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do you do? Say no, I'm not going to take
the challenge just because I can't do it. So I
thought I'm going in no matter what. And it's a
little bit like James Madison last year saying do you
prepare for the ice and he's like, no, I don't
want to get kicked in the balls.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I know it's going to happen. So it's like, well,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, you know, for everybody, they go in with a
reason or a purpose which is so important to you know,
getting somebody through it, and then whether or not they
get through the course or not doesn't necessarily mean that
they'll have achieved that goal, you know. Like for me,
it was about getting confidence back. I knew that I'd
had it, and I wanted it back one hundred percent.
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I've got it. I've got what I what I went
there to go and get, I've got and so much more.
Even though you didn't get to the end, you didn't
get as far as you would like to. Did you
get what you wanted from that show?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's actually a great question.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I probably went in with the same goal as you
married to regain my confidence in myself, which through media
and through various things that have happened over the last
ten or fifteen years, I very much lost a part
of that.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
But the completely different story came out for me.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
So I'd say I didn't necessarily entirely gather that because
I did think I faltered a little bit, as you say, mentally,
just a fraction on that last day, which I would
have liked to have to go back and redo. But
for me, what actually came out of the course was
that I want to slow down. So it's actually that
I don't want to chase the success and the big
time stories and that like, you know, yes, it's great
being a doctor, but maybe I don't have to be
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a superstar surgeon. Maybe I can be, you know, a
women's health specialist, but have time with my children. So
all of a sudden, my internal acceptance of myself has
gone through the roof, and I realize, actually, some of
the things I'm doing aren't for me. They're actually because
I don't feel good enough, and therefore I'm trying to
find ways to boost myself up and I don't need
that anymore. So that's a huge gift to come out
of to come out of this course.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, yah, I don't know, Sabrina, if you get anything
else to ask from that, it's pretty it feels like
there's not much to go from from there.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I mean, I was going to ask, if you turned
back the clock, would you do it again?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
You would, would you.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I'm assuming you guys have answered that probably a dozen
times already on your podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I've already asked and they've just said, mate, shut up,
go all right? I said, can I just can I
just have a swim in the car, and they've gone, Mate, seriously,
you can't. You're not even meant to be here. And
I said, I'm so close. Just when everyone else leaves.
They were I want to do all of it. I'm not
going even the rope hanging in. I was like, oh, yeah,
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I'd like to hang from a rope.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yes, I would have loved to have done that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
At that stage, John, if you'd been pushed through a
drinking you could have hung off that rope for ninety
seconds solid, Yes.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I do.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, because I had to hang off the helicopter for
three minutes because my abs wouldn't want to be back in.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
So I can guarantee I could have held onto that.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's great. Look down. No matter how you finished, I'll
tell you what you have finished. It's the people's favorite.
Without doubt. Everyone I speak to absolutely loved watching you
on this course. Giving everything. It's a massive achievement. It
really isn't a huge win for you. So enjoy a
little bit of downtime, enjoy a little bit of peace,
and thanks very much for being on the show and
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for being on the podcast as well, yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
You're an absolute legend and thanks for you both are
supporting us and all the recruits from this season.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I know we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So not all of them, not all of them. I've
shit canned a few to be honest.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
No, no, I know that.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's all with love. It's all with love.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
It's given some genuine feedback, isn't it some realness?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Jana Pittman all the best to you, take.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Care, Thanks, thanks Sa Brena, Thanks Siana.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Just three people made it to the final challenge. We
talk about how they went up next. Now, the final
challenge of the season appears pretty basic, but it's actually
a lot harder than it may appear. It involves crawling
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along a rope then hanging from it at full extension
for ninety seconds. We did something similar on our course, Sabrina,
But why do you reckon? It is that much harder
at this stage of the course.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
At this stage of the course, you have nothing left.
It is all adrenaline. Any energy that you have left
is from pure grit and is from pure just determination
to be there. When you're hanging by a rope and
holding your entire body up at that stage, it would
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have been very, very tough. I think a lot of
people could be sitting back and going I can do that.
I mean I can hang, you know, from a rope
for three minutes. But in that scenario, I don't know
how I would have gone, been completely honest.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Now I reckon We can offer a little bit of
context here to listeners, is that when people are imagining
hanging from a rope, you go, yeah, I could do
ninety seconds, even if I'm fatigued, even if I've been
for you know, run half a marathon, I can do that.
But there's some additional treatment there that is very hard
to explain. Hands your hands at this stage are useless.
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You literally have no sensation in your fingertips that are
cooked to the point at this stage I wasn't able
to do up my pants on the course, like literally
it was painful to use buttons. So hang from a
rope when your hands are absolutely deteriorated is that much harder?
But without doubt, the most painful part of the course
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is the final selection, whether or not you get selected
and you pass, or if you are told no. Only
Sam Burges just makes it through. Why just him, Sabrina, I.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Think he's been above the rest throughout the whole course.
He's been very, very consistent. I think he's probably embraced
the course the most. He's been very, very vulnerable, and
he's been thinking like a soldier. It's the one that
I could see slipping straight into the military and it
really feeling comfortable for him.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yep, you can totally imagine him being in the Special
Forces absolutely all right. So let's have a look at
why the SCUD and Stefo didn't make it SCUD. First,
For me, it was just the fact that he at
times had lapses, you know, whether or not he's thrown
in the ice and couldn't recall detail, or he's being
interviewed and couldn't recall detail. He was slow and steady,
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but when it come to crunch moments, he was sometimes absent.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's hard because you just want to fight for him
because he gives so much in the sense that his
presence is just like that dark horse presence. You know,
a lot of people wouldn't think he'd be there at
the end, but he just stuck to his guns and
he just proved himself day in day out. He just
had lapses where I felt like, you know, he was
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behind physically or you know, moments of capture where it
felt like he wasn't even there, and I think that
let him down in the end, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yep, Stefo. While I was he cut. My belief is
that it wasn't so much that he didn't bob up
enough and he was too much of a gray man
for me. It was the emotional loss there that he
had when he lost control of his emotions. I think
that that would have been enough for them to deny
him selection.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Emotions.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
If you can't harness those negative emotions, they will take
control of you. And the DS are not willing to
put their lives in the hands of someone who can't
control their emotions, and that is a massive red flag
for them.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Now. During the reunion episode, Saberena, you and I spoke
about this earlier today, that Sam talks about visualizing his
selection and I wasn't aware that you had kind of
visualized the very very end, but had I had, and
you believe Badge you had as well.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, we we'd spoken about it and he said the same,
he said, there's no way I wasn't going to be
there at the end. I feel like it's a shared mindset.
I'm starting to see when you're starting something this invigorating,
you know that it's going to.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Test you to your absolute limit.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You need to go into this course thinking you will
be there completing it at the end.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So did you actually have a picture, a model in
your mind of how you would be on that final
day being told that you passed selection.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, I knew I was going to be exhausted. I
knew I was going to be absolutely crippled. But it's
weird because that picture and image of me being broken is.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
What I was there for.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yep, I felt and I saw me being absolutely broken,
and that did not deter me. That did not make
me feel fearful. It got me excited for what's to come.
And that I feel like was the driving force. There
was almost nothing that could push me away.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's amazing. It's the power of you know, if you
can dream it, you can do it. For people listening, honestly,
it really is real. If you can dream it, you
can do it. I've visualized myself so many times in
preparation for the course, finishing the course eerily on top
of a mountain, absolutely completely flogged, exhausted and broken, and
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then being told that I passed and that's so when
it happened. To be honest, when it happened, I was
actually very surprised, but it was exactly how I imagine.
Maybe that's what kind of helped me push through.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, I think that when you're ruin like that, there's
that internal motivation and we talked about it before that drive.
When you've got nothing left, you always go back to
your purpose and why you're there and how you felt.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
At the beginning of it all.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
And I'm not to say that the others didn't have it,
but I do know that the ones that do complete
it do have that shared mindset.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Well. Look at the start of the podcast season for
Essays Australia, we made some predictions and we'll just see
how they stack up. We asked who will make it
to the end, Sabrina, you said, Yana and Kobe Eberton.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm gutted. I'm gutted I didn't get them right.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But at the same time I think it it definitely
shows that on this course you can't just pick out
of not knowing anything about them. And you know, earlier
on in this podcast series we got Ollie on and
he said that you know he wouldn't have picked us
being there at the end either, because you just don't know.
So I'm going to cover my ass here and say
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it's because you just don't know at.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The it's true. It's it's I mean I picked the
final four. I thought it'd be Yana, Sam Burgess, Stefo
and Jack Kenny. So I got half of those right.
Who would leave first? You said Manu. I think he
was in for three or four days. I said, Brynn,
and absolutely nailed it. If anything, Brinna actually stayed longer
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than I thought, so I agree.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
She surprised me as well.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yep, dark Horse, I said Pete Murray, You said Kerry Podcast.
We both missed the scud for dark Horse. The person
we thought would annoy the DS the most, we both
said Dan Ewing. Both look, we give Dan a bit
of gyp, but he's actually he's a very solid bloke.
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But you know, he's an actor, and I think that
you know, it's a different game out there, but I
knew that being an actor, I could just I got
a sense that he was going to irritate the DS
because they just want to see the very element of
you straight away as fast as they can. They want
to see everything from you emotionally, physically and mentally as
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fast as they can.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, they won that commitment right from the beginning, pretty
much after you've been gassed.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're expecting it right from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yep, yep, it's the world's worst first date. Well that's
it for the celebrity season of SAS Australia. But that's
not the end of this podcast. We're going to be
here again next week covering all the action from SAS
Australia hell week, which I can honestly say I can't
wait to see. I want to see why civilians want
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to do this so much. It's not about fame, it's
not about money, It's about grit and I'm looking forward
to that, Sabrina.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I can't wait, and I can't wait to be there
with you next week.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Good times. Will this civilians be better than the celebrities.
I doubt it massively, So make sure that you don't
miss the thing. Watch SAS Australia on Channel seven and
seven plus and catch the SAS Australian Debrief right here
on the iHeartRadio app. Til next time, Take it easy.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thanks for listening guys,
Hi there. I'm Merck Watts here with Sabrina Frederick. This
is the SAS Australia Debrief. Well, we've reached the end
of season two of SAS Australia and what a ride
it has been. There were eighteen celebrity recruiters started out,
but only three made it to the final challenge. Sabrina,
are you sad it's all over?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am a bit.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You know, it's been really nice watching these guys get there.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Kid, It's good, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And also just having that insight of knowing how hard
it actually is. It's been a really really good watch
this season.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Out of all the challenges that we've seen over this
second season, what's the one that you wish that you
could have had a crack at?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Oh, just one that's hard, that is hard.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'd probably say the car under the water for me, definitely.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Me Toobutamy wanted to get gassed and then I went, nah,
the car, you know, because the water looks so blue
and I was like, that's like a tropical resort there.
That's the closest I'm going to get to it, So
I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Absolutely, the car challenge was awesome, A great test for
mental composure and physical ability. Absolute big tick for me.
Coming up on this episode, one of our favorites, Yanna Pittman,
will be dropping by. She's going to talk about her
exit from the show and do we agree with the
final DS selection. Our thoughts on that soon, let's get
into it. Well, Episode twelve is all about drive. Now,
(01:32):
this shouldn't be confused with ambition or goal setting. It's different, Sabrina,
Do you want to explain what drive means in this context?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
When you're exhausted, you've got nothing, It's that motivation. It's
that last bit of motivation that keeps you going. It's
probably your purpose for being there on this course, and
when you're exhausted, tired and hungry, it's the one thing
that you have to tap into to get yourself through.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, the first challenge is a timed helicopter ladder extra.
This looks deceptively easy on TV, but it's dangerous and
it's hard new Sabrina. You and I have climbed up
those little ladders in training. It's not in water, not wet,
and it is pretty tricky to masteries and particularly with
boots on.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it's extremely difficult and definitely deceiving. One thing that
I didn't realize when climbing rope ladder like that is
you're using your leg strength more than your arms. If anything,
you're using your arms to stabilize yourself, but it's all
within your leg strength. So in this scenario, if your
legs you know they've lost it, this is probably the
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last thing you want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, the boys did well here. John Stephenson, he was
up a like a you know, like a wrap it
up a drain pipe. I don't even know if that's
the thing they do. Do rabbits do that. Let's just
say they do, because he would have been like that.
For me. Stefo until this point had been a bit
of a gray man. And to explain what a gray
man is, it's somebody who is kind of not really
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bobbing their head up too much in the early part,
kind of keeping a reasonably low profile, but it is
consistently chipping away. I certainly went in to Sas Australia
thinking that I would play the gray man. It was
something that I wanted to do. But the problem is
with the gray man is if you peak too late,
if you don't show enough until towards the end that
you might just be a little bit too gray. Do
(03:17):
you reckon Stefo has left his run a little bit
late there?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I think if you don't give enough, and like you said,
if you leave it almost too late, it's unfortunate for
you because you obviously are capable, but you're not giving
enough to plead your case to passing selection.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, you've got to shine at the right moments. And
I think that he did shine certainly up that ladder.
I was very impressed, but well, you know, you're pretty
much at the end of the course. Will it be
enough to get over on? You know, at that stage
I was not sure. There was also a bit of
dan ewing for the fans at home. I know he
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makes for great entertainment, but I'm just going to pull
out one quite Sabrina, which was I'm addicted to bettering myself? Now?
Is this dan Ewing at his best? Or do you
reckon like he truly is There's a compulsion in Dan
that drives him forward. That is the drive that we're
seeing in this episode, which is about bettering himself. Is
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that his motivation?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, I'm definitely seeing moments with him pop up
that I can see why he has said he's addicted
to bettering himself. He's put himself in an environment where
he's really going to be tested, and he is committing
to those tasks. Whether he fails or passes, he really
is committing to himself. However, as much as we love
Dad saying out loud that you're addicted to bettering yourself,
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you know self love is always good, So we'll just leave.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
He's addicted to that. He's done very very well to
get to this part of the core. Regardless of your background,
if you've got this far, you've been able to endure.
And full credit to him, But you know, I'm addicted
to bettering myself. I don't know I would have said
something else.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeha.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
She's been a favorite of ours the entire time. At
this point of the course, she was really struggling to
get up that ladder. She's exhausted physically and looks as
though mentally as well. She got there with just three
seconds remaining, and then she hugs Aunt Middleton, which I
thought was hilarious. She went he for a little bit
of a cuddle. There only recruit to do so I think,
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did you think that she was pretty borderline with this one.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, you can tell that by this stage in the course,
she's physically exhausted. She was really really close to missing
out on that task and cutting it very fine with
the clock. She's just had a baby six months ago. Like,
that's pretty impressive in itself, but you know, we don't
give handouts in this course unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, and look, you know, she's the only female to
ever get up one of those rope ladders out of
the water, you know, Ant Middleton pointed that out. It's
an incredible feat.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Watching her dig deep and knowing that she was doing
it to prove a point. When you accomplish something like that,
it definitely puts women out there on a platform and
that's going to encourage other women and young girls to
aspire to do the same thing. So for me watching her,
I mean, I was super proud watching it.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, totally. I think it's great for her to get
so far into a course, given that her age, her background,
and the fact that she's just had a newborn. It
is absolutely outstanding. Let's have a chat about the assault course.
It's designed to break you down to the last it's
really just juice out that lemon. You've got nothing left
to give. I think that this was tough, but I
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don't know that it was brutal.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I think I can agree.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I mean, this course was designed for it to keep
going basically until someone their armband in, and I think
it got cut short and to some degree, I think
they got a little bit lucky.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean, look on the aur Assault course, Aeron
McNaught was literally physically broken down, like her shoulder was
completely cooked. She was injured going into it, and it
was literally just sandbags and waight that broke her out.
It was punishing because it was very, very cold. We
had to go through a freezing cold river and I
remember getting a touch of hypothermia on the way back
as a result of being in that cold water and
(07:28):
exposed to it. It's not about comparing the two different
seasons and who's tougher. But I agree I reckon that
they were lucky that it was called at two rounds.
A third one, I reckon Stepho would have been a
massive trouble and Yarner would have been out.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
To be honest, throughout the whole assault course, I felt
like the only one that was completely comfortable was Sam.
He was the absolute standout in that. Yeah, definitely, I mean,
Scud was there. Mark Philippus was plowing through at a
very slow rate, like a bull plowing a feel slow
and steady.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Wins the race.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
But he's there, He's there. But you're right. Sam Burgess
was absolutely on form. Step I peaked early and then
you know, after two rounds was in real strife. So
I think they were lucky. But it was really good
seeing them get through and you know, keeping the recruits
there because otherwise would have only been down to three
at that stage. Coming up, we lost two strong contenders
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for selection early in episode thirteen. We talk about those
recruits next. So episode thirteen Sabrina's Determination. The final episode
sees five recruits, Yanna, Stepho, Sam Dan and the Scud.
(08:45):
The episode starts with the capturing and the interrogation of
the recruits. This challenge is all about situational awareness.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
One of the main focuses they sort of bring to
your attention quite early is the attention to detail. You know,
especially in the military sense. If you get captured, you
need to know where you are, see him, buy yourself time.
Something as simple as finding the directions, knowing how many
left turns you're taking in a car, right turns, you know,
registration plates, all of those little bits of detail that
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could actually result in saving your life in the end
of it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The situational awareness and understanding your environment is critical, and
it's something that you have to start with from the
get go. You need to be alert to what is
around you for danger, but also to just looking at
things that look like they might be out of place.
Why is that there? Be suspicious? Be curious even about
why things are there, Like, there's nothing that happens on
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that show that doesn't have a reason or a purpose.
So if you see a number, if you see a
license plate, if you're exposed to anything, it's for a reason.
Once everybody was captured and they're taken in for interrogation,
let's have a look at how they individually did. Yanna,
I think you did okay, but I expected her to
be a bit sharper thoughts.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yep, I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think that she's been consistent throughout this whole thing,
So when she was reeling off different parts of information,
I knew she could retain it. We'd seen that in
the task where they were thrown into the ice and
she could recall that information quite confidently, So I knew
that she could do that. I think she probably let
me down a little bit. I thought she'd be able
to be confident throughout the whole thing, but I think
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she did quite well there.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I think it was just fatigue and also too,
I think the expectation from all of us as viewers
is that she has nailed everything. Yeah, so you just
expect her to nail this, but the fatigue is really
massively at play now, and the fatigue slows down your mind. Steffo,
he actually did okay. He was just a little off
on some of the details.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Again, it's probably coming back to how he's been throughout
the whole course so far, Like he has his shining moments,
but he's probably just not being consistent enough.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Sam, he was comfortable with the exercise entirely, but also
too in the interrogation. He seemed to be able to
recall quite.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
A lot, and I think he also registered straight away
the situation and he knew exactly what he needed to do.
You almost saw it almost makes sense in his mind.
He knew that this is what he needed to do,
and he just Yeah, he relaid that information off like
it was no problem.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Scud. I love the Scud, but he was not great here.
He just seemed rattled. And that's worrying in itself, isn't
it Like if you if you're rattled. Yeah, that's a
worrying sign for how far you can go.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, it's hard because I love him too, but these
are the major red flags that the dis would be seeing.
You know, he's quite gladly getting captured and taking in
no details around him whatsoever. You know, in their environment,
he'd be gone, like he wouldn't be alive because he
hasn't taken anything at all. And we saw that in
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one of the tasks, you know, on the team tasks
where they had to let themselves free. He was quite
gladly just sitting there waiting for the others to let
let him go.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Sabrini's just sitting there just going, I think Sabrina is
coming back for me.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
And then.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And when you did the right Scott's going, oh my god,
she's done it. Yeah, she's done it again.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
She's left to.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Look I think that. Yeah, it's a bit it's a
bit of a worry for the Scud. But he's so
likable that you just want to see him. Go on, Dan,
here we go the final recruit. It was like watching
a car crash. It really was what do you think
was going on here? He's completely it appears that he's
completely misread the play. Maybe it's seen that the first
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series that we were in, but he didn't register that
the DS were scrutinizing him, not necessarily interrogating. It wasn't
a play act. He was being asked real information. How
badly did he get that problem?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I feel for him in the sense that, you know,
I think watching past seasons do trip you up, and
I think it did in our season quite early with
one of the shooting tasks that we had going off
for past and that is a big mistake, and that
the DS are almost knowing that you're looking for that stuff,
and he didn't quite He didn't quite realize that this
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is not a game. Not realize and by the time
he did, I think it was too late. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Look, I think he just made an error in judgment
of what the situation was. And to be honest, so
many people could make that, you know, assumption that they're
they're there to play act, that there to deliver misinformation.
I think that's where he was kind of going.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The DS were clearly getting angry, and I was sitting
there going, I'm getting scared just sitting and watching. I
could only imagine what it felt like sitting in that
chair across from them.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
You know, what they needed there, They needed to get
one of those clappable you see in movies with it Okay, Dan, Sorry,
this is real. Okay, there, they're not No, they're not
acting okay, and take two and dance away. And then
he would have knowiled it. But look, like I said,
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so many people would have made the same era. So yeah,
I mean I wouldn't be one of them, but he okay.
I think this leads into the conversation about Dan being
cut from the course. Do you reckon that this is
the reason he got let go?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I actually don't.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I don't think that that specific scenario was why he
got cut. I think when they make a decision like this,
it's normally a build up over a few days, and
something is the last straw. And I think maybe that
was the last straw. But I think there's been a
few instances where I feel like he just can't let
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some things go and he hasn't fully fully embraced everything,
and in this scenario, bringing that story to the player
not really understanding what's going on, I think almost shone
more of a light on him.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Unfortunately, what do you think.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I thought that he could have gone right to the end.
I think that I don't know that he would have
passed the selection. I don't think that would have given
him that pass because he'd irritated Billy and the other
ds way too much. And ultimately, as you know, the criterias,
would they fight alongside you? I reckon that that would
have been a bit of a block some of the
you know, the questioning and answering stuff, that might have
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been a block. But I think he was capable. I
really do. Like I reckon Dan would have been hanging
from the rope at the very end. I reckon he
would have done his ninety seconds on that right. I
think he had a wicked determination and I'd like to
have sent him to it, to be honest. So for
the remaining recruits, they've got the extraction challenge to get through.
This is of course, where they have to go and
get some intelligence. Then they have to be extracted via
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helicopter on a rope. It's pretty physically demanding exercise, but
also to it's at the pointy end of the competition,
it's hard. Okay, So both teams managed to get to
the extraction point in time, and it shouldn't be underestimated.
Those burgens that they're carrying way about twenty ties and
they were having to run through that scenario with explosions
going off and having to race to the helicopter carrying
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an extra twenty kilos when you're already pretty naked. It's
not an easy task to do. But despite finishing successfully
in that task, Yanna was cut. Why do you think
it was her and not Stefo?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, honestly, in that moment, my heart just dropped, you know,
I almost I knew it was coming, but I also
didn't want it to happen. I was torn, and I
felt like maybe the DS were as well. I think
they wanted her to be there in the end, but
I think they knew they had to take someone out
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and she's been struggling. She had been the last day
or so, and you have to take that into account
because I think that physically she like I don't even
know she would have done that rope hang been quite honest,
and they knew what was coming up and she physically
she was not there.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing. They know what's coming forward,
and I think that it got to the point where
you know, there would be a level of concern about
their well being.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I was kind of surprised that Stepo got through from that,
just given I thought that Stepo and Yanna might go
in that same moment. I think Stepo lived to fight
another day. Disappointing, unfortunate, but that is what SAS Australia
is about. It is about giving everything you've got to
the very very end until you've got no more and
then it's done. So how does Yanna feel about her
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time on Essays Australia. She'll be joining us next Well,
she was definitely a fan favorite, not just amongst us
as the podcast, but also to with the general public.
Yanna Pittman joins us on the show. Congratulations Yanna on
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how far you went in this course.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Coming from you, that's a real compliment, So thanks Mark.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Amazing job.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Honest, Yanna, it's amazing to have you on America and
I have loved watching you during this course. For me,
you were my pick and from the beginning, I just
there's something about you. I was just ready to watch
and really I was genuinely really proud watching you at
the end and gut it. I was screaming at the television,
going no, please keep her on. But I as a fan,
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I just need to know.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I need to know.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I'm sure Australian needs to know what motivated you to
get on this course, like what was your reasoning?
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Well, as you both probably know, I wanted to be
on it with you guys last year and then whoopsie
days you got pregnant. Missed that opportunity and I'm probably,
you know, pretty lucky because I don't like the cold
so much and what horrific.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Cold, so it probably got out lightly there.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
But yeah, huge cutos to you guys too, having been
through the course before and obviously passing. It's just massive
to be able to talk to you both. And I
know I spoke to you America afterwards because we met before,
but massive hats off to you both now that I've
done it and how horribly hard it is. My motivation
to Brinda was probably one my brother. He's an ex
ff Ghani veteran, so I really wanted to know. I
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guess a little bit of an insight of what he
went through. He never did sas selection, but a lot
of similar type of courses for his training. And I've
secretly always wanted to be in the army, so I
guess it was my chance to have a little fear
I'm getting a bit old to probably do it for
the real deal. I have joined the Army reserves, but
you know, full time army is probably not my not my.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Deal, Yanda, what did you join the Army reserve about.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Six months ago?
Speaker 6 (19:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Wow, Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I knew I wanted to do it, but coming back
from doing this course was definitely the final Yes, this
is it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
I want to do this for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
That's amazing, It's really awesome. I'm really looking forward to
hearing how that goes with the course, though. I just
you've just given birth six months ago. How was it
leaving Charles at home?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like? What was that like for you?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
It was tough, and I knew that was going to
be one of my weaknesses. And there was definitely a
few moments throughout the show and I didn't show it.
There was one particular time where I said to Ant
I can't do this anymore. I really need to go
home to my babies. And it was actually just after
they asked us to talk about what our worst moments,
so our biggest shameful event, and that was when I
talked about the finances and had that epiphany of a moment, thinking,
here I am again chasing another goal of my own
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when my kids are at home, and I was so
close to withdrawing, and he said, you can't do this,
you can't stop now. What's the difference between two or
three more days, four more days and leaving right now?
What are you going to prove to yourself?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
You know?
Speaker 6 (20:29):
And it was a really encouraging message. What I'm showing
women back at home is that you are capable of
doing all these extraordinary things if you put your mind
to it and balance.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
And the balancing act is real.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It's hard for males and females who are parents, but
it's definitely something that's possible if you wanted enough.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
So, yeah, it wasn't easy to Sabrina.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Definitely for mum Joan. I mean, obviously you know I'm
a parent, but I know that you know there's a
certain type of relatability with parents, but definitely one with Marvel's.
You know, you really struck a chord there, not just
because it's so that you've had your last child, but
because you're a bit of a lightning rod for mums
who can do more than what is expected of them.
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And I know that you must have felt that you
were carrying that as well.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
I did, and I felt that I felt it almost
as a support, like I was being held up by
the other by other women going through it and knowing
that I would be painted in that light in that
there'd be people supporting it and wanting to believe in
themselves and coming up against all these answers and people
telling them they can't and why why would you try
and do this when you have a six to eight
month old at home? And I have, I've had an
unbelievably overwhelmingly beautiful support from the public thus far, sending
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me messages at home saying I feel inspired to get
off and do this. I feel like I lost myself
in the first few months after having a baby, and
you know, you've pushed me to go back to the gym,
and you know, even if it's only a small change,
they're making their life to feel better about themselves. That's
so amazing And hopefully as a result, if they feel
stronger in who they are, then they're going to be
better parents, and they're going to give more to their children,
and they're going to be more available emotionally to their kids.
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So to be part of that change and to be
pushing that women can do this alongside being great parents
is I'm inspired to be part of that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
For me, that just that strikes a nerve because I
carried that with me as well, not on the parenting scale,
but very much so for females.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And and does it gives you strength?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It really does give you strength because you feel like
you're not only fighting for yourself, you're fighting for all
the other people that you just want them to be
who they are and achieve what they want to achieve.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
You did that for me, Sabrina, And I've told you that.
There were so many times where I'm like, well, Sabrina's
done it.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Come on, women can do this. Stop that bellving in
your own self and hurry up. Sabrina did it before?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I appreciate that. I genuinely do.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I mean I didn't give birth since months ago before that,
but I do appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I really do the part in the course where you
got cut.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Honestly, for me, it was like an arrow getting shot
through my heart.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean I could only imagine what it would have
been like for you standing there.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
What did that feel like for you? Talk to us
a little bit about that moment. You feel like it
was your time to go.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Look, I didn't feel like it was my time to go.
I was obviously a bit shocked.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
Initially, it didn't take long for me to realize that
of the four that was left, it was the right
decision for the DS, so if they needed someone to go,
particularly on that day and actually the day before as
well as you saw when I sort of passed out
in the fitness challenge, I was at my end, Sabrina.
I've run out of gas, like as in, there is
only so much my body could have pushed through, and
I was on empty, like completely not mentally I still
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had it in my head, but physically I was just blown.
So I tried hard to run with Like on the
last challenge, we ran so much with the pack, and
every part of my body said, you need a little break.
You're going to literally keel over again. And I was
worried the same thing had happened the day before. I
actually passed out, like I've just got to get to
the end. I'm not quitting. I'm not quitting. I'm never stopping.
Just don't quit, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
And they told us the.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Day before that it's not only about how fit you are,
it's the thinking soldier as well. So I guess I
was relying, come on, just think through this. This is
going to be a very very long day. Commit just
keep going. How do I know the end was a
little bit earlier and we were going to come off
the chopper and that was going to kind of be
the end of that running exercise. Perhaps I could have
dug it a little bit deeper, but that's hindsight as well.
At the time, I thought I was going to die.
So it's like, you never mind.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I definitely have those moments where you think you're going
to die on the.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Cost if you've been on that show and you haven't
actually thought to yourself, I'm going to die. You know
what you aren't a member of the crew is where
you are.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Even Brinn thought she was going to die and that
was at the publicity issue. So yeah, I'm really keen
to touch on something because you know you said it.
There the thinking soldier for me. You are the thinking
soldier more than anyone else for me. But I have
to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I saw a crack, a frailty on your last morning
when you're eating breakfast, and you questioned yourself for the
first time, did you feel that crack? Did you notice that?
And kind of have a realization that I'm in trouble here.
I've got to either push through this or this could widen.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
It's funny say that mark, because I obviously started feeling
the crack when I pass out in that fitness but
I also felt it mentally because my memory is normally
very good, so I'm usually able to recall things very well,
and because they actually turned that into a memory exercise.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Again, I was flawed that I couldn't remember those things.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
And now part of it was because I was petrified,
Like watching you guys last year go through that scared the.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Hell out of me. So I was literally the minute
that bag went on my head, I'm like, oh my god,
here we go. I'm so scared. I don't like dogs
barking and all that horrible stuff that I were about
to put you through.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
But I noticed then that my mind was starting to
slip too. So that was where, as you say, the
cracks started for me. And so there was a lot
of self talk happening, which I was which normally I'm
very very good at stepping away from. And I guess,
looking back on it now, it's because I wasn't as
physically fit, so I had to draw on that mental
strength for so many of the days. So they said
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you were going to live minute by minute, I was
living second by second by the last day, just holding on.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean, that's why we all sign up for the course.
We want to be pushed to an absolute limit to
see where that limit is so then we can grow
as well. In terms of regrets, you know you've touched
on physically, you don't think that you were probably at
your best? Do you think maybe that's you regret maybe
some of your preparation. Do you think that you could
have given a bit more to help you on this course?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I had no more time, to be honest, Serena, So
I probably I had a plan. So I did a
training program as a bet you guys did too, of
what I wanted to do, and I knew I knew
right before I had the baby that I was going
to be doing the course, so theoretically I had five
and a half months. But you do forget the postpartum period.
You forget you know, if you do parenting soon, then
you know that there's a period of time where your
body can't do anything, so you can walk and run.
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And so I planned to run with my bergen from
at least six weeks out, and I actually never got
to running with my bergen so the body wouldn't allow it.
So I actually went on to the course having never
run with the burgen on my back, whereas last year
America I was able to run five k's in a
row with a twenty kilo bergen on my back. So
it's just a different preparation. But the thing is what
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do you do? Say no, I'm not going to take
the challenge just because I can't do it. So I
thought I'm going in no matter what. And it's a
little bit like James Madison last year saying do you
prepare for the ice and he's like, no, I don't
want to get kicked in the balls.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I know it's going to happen. So it's like, well,
you know.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, you know, for everybody, they go in with a
reason or a purpose which is so important to you know,
getting somebody through it, and then whether or not they
get through the course or not doesn't necessarily mean that
they'll have achieved that goal, you know. Like for me,
it was about getting confidence back. I knew that I'd
had it, and I wanted it back one hundred percent.
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I've got it. I've got what I what I went
there to go and get, I've got and so much more.
Even though you didn't get to the end, you didn't
get as far as you would like to. Did you
get what you wanted from that show?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's actually a great question.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
I probably went in with the same goal as you
married to regain my confidence in myself, which through media
and through various things that have happened over the last
ten or fifteen years, I very much lost a part
of that.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
But the completely different story came out for me.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
So I'd say I didn't necessarily entirely gather that because
I did think I faltered a little bit, as you say, mentally,
just a fraction on that last day, which I would
have liked to have to go back and redo. But
for me, what actually came out of the course was
that I want to slow down. So it's actually that
I don't want to chase the success and the big
time stories and that like, you know, yes, it's great
being a doctor, but maybe I don't have to be
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a superstar surgeon. Maybe I can be, you know, a
women's health specialist, but have time with my children. So
all of a sudden, my internal acceptance of myself has
gone through the roof, and I realize, actually, some of
the things I'm doing aren't for me. They're actually because
I don't feel good enough, and therefore I'm trying to
find ways to boost myself up and I don't need
that anymore. So that's a huge gift to come out
of to come out of this course.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Well, yah, I don't know, Sabrina, if you get anything
else to ask from that, it's pretty it feels like
there's not much to go from from there.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I mean, I was going to ask, if you turned
back the clock, would you do it again?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
You would, would you.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
I'm assuming you guys have answered that probably a dozen
times already on your podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I've already asked and they've just said, mate, shut up,
go all right? I said, can I just can I
just have a swim in the car, and they've gone, Mate, seriously,
you can't. You're not even meant to be here. And
I said, I'm so close. Just when everyone else leaves.
They were I want to do all of it. I'm not
going even the rope hanging in. I was like, oh, yeah,
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I'd like to hang from a rope.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yes, I would have loved to have done that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
At that stage, John, if you'd been pushed through a
drinking you could have hung off that rope for ninety
seconds solid, Yes.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
I do.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, because I had to hang off the helicopter for
three minutes because my abs wouldn't want to be back in.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
So I can guarantee I could have held onto that.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's great. Look down. No matter how you finished, I'll
tell you what you have finished. It's the people's favorite.
Without doubt. Everyone I speak to absolutely loved watching you
on this course. Giving everything. It's a massive achievement. It
really isn't a huge win for you. So enjoy a
little bit of downtime, enjoy a little bit of peace,
and thanks very much for being on the show and
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for being on the podcast as well, yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
You're an absolute legend and thanks for you both are
supporting us and all the recruits from this season.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I know we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So not all of them, not all of them. I've
shit canned a few to be honest.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
No, no, I know that.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's all with love. It's all with love.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
It's given some genuine feedback, isn't it some realness?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Jana Pittman all the best to you, take.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Care, Thanks, thanks Sa Brena, Thanks Siana.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Just three people made it to the final challenge. We
talk about how they went up next. Now, the final
challenge of the season appears pretty basic, but it's actually
a lot harder than it may appear. It involves crawling
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along a rope then hanging from it at full extension
for ninety seconds. We did something similar on our course, Sabrina,
But why do you reckon? It is that much harder
at this stage of the course.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
At this stage of the course, you have nothing left.
It is all adrenaline. Any energy that you have left
is from pure grit and is from pure just determination
to be there. When you're hanging by a rope and
holding your entire body up at that stage, it would
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have been very, very tough. I think a lot of
people could be sitting back and going I can do that.
I mean I can hang, you know, from a rope
for three minutes. But in that scenario, I don't know
how I would have gone, been completely honest.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Now I reckon We can offer a little bit of
context here to listeners, is that when people are imagining
hanging from a rope, you go, yeah, I could do
ninety seconds, even if I'm fatigued, even if I've been
for you know, run half a marathon, I can do that.
But there's some additional treatment there that is very hard
to explain. Hands your hands at this stage are useless.
(32:11):
You literally have no sensation in your fingertips that are
cooked to the point at this stage I wasn't able
to do up my pants on the course, like literally
it was painful to use buttons. So hang from a
rope when your hands are absolutely deteriorated is that much harder?
But without doubt, the most painful part of the course
(32:31):
is the final selection, whether or not you get selected
and you pass, or if you are told no. Only
Sam Burges just makes it through. Why just him, Sabrina, I.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Think he's been above the rest throughout the whole course.
He's been very, very consistent. I think he's probably embraced
the course the most. He's been very, very vulnerable, and
he's been thinking like a soldier. It's the one that
I could see slipping straight into the military and it
really feeling comfortable for him.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yep, you can totally imagine him being in the Special
Forces absolutely all right. So let's have a look at
why the SCUD and Stefo didn't make it SCUD. First,
For me, it was just the fact that he at
times had lapses, you know, whether or not he's thrown
in the ice and couldn't recall detail, or he's being
interviewed and couldn't recall detail. He was slow and steady,
(33:28):
but when it come to crunch moments, he was sometimes absent.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
It's hard because you just want to fight for him
because he gives so much in the sense that his
presence is just like that dark horse presence. You know,
a lot of people wouldn't think he'd be there at
the end, but he just stuck to his guns and
he just proved himself day in day out. He just
had lapses where I felt like, you know, he was
(33:52):
behind physically or you know, moments of capture where it
felt like he wasn't even there, and I think that
let him down in the end, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yep, Stefo. While I was he cut. My belief is
that it wasn't so much that he didn't bob up
enough and he was too much of a gray man
for me. It was the emotional loss there that he
had when he lost control of his emotions. I think
that that would have been enough for them to deny
him selection.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Emotions.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
If you can't harness those negative emotions, they will take
control of you. And the DS are not willing to
put their lives in the hands of someone who can't
control their emotions, and that is a massive red flag
for them.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Now. During the reunion episode, Saberena, you and I spoke
about this earlier today, that Sam talks about visualizing his
selection and I wasn't aware that you had kind of
visualized the very very end, but had I had, and
you believe Badge you had as well.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, we we'd spoken about it and he said the same,
he said, there's no way I wasn't going to be
there at the end. I feel like it's a shared mindset.
I'm starting to see when you're starting something this invigorating,
you know that it's going to.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Test you to your absolute limit.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
You need to go into this course thinking you will
be there completing it at the end.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So did you actually have a picture, a model in
your mind of how you would be on that final
day being told that you passed selection.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, I knew I was going to be exhausted. I
knew I was going to be absolutely crippled. But it's
weird because that picture and image of me being broken is.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
What I was there for.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yep, I felt and I saw me being absolutely broken,
and that did not deter me. That did not make
me feel fearful. It got me excited for what's to come.
And that I feel like was the driving force. There
was almost nothing that could push me away.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's amazing. It's the power of you know, if you
can dream it, you can do it. For people listening, honestly,
it really is real. If you can dream it, you
can do it. I've visualized myself so many times in
preparation for the course, finishing the course eerily on top
of a mountain, absolutely completely flogged, exhausted and broken, and
(36:17):
then being told that I passed and that's so when
it happened. To be honest, when it happened, I was
actually very surprised, but it was exactly how I imagine.
Maybe that's what kind of helped me push through.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, I think that when you're ruin like that, there's
that internal motivation and we talked about it before that drive.
When you've got nothing left, you always go back to
your purpose and why you're there and how you felt.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
At the beginning of it all.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
And I'm not to say that the others didn't have it,
but I do know that the ones that do complete
it do have that shared mindset.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Well. Look at the start of the podcast season for
Essays Australia, we made some predictions and we'll just see
how they stack up. We asked who will make it
to the end, Sabrina, you said, Yana and Kobe Eberton.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm gutted. I'm gutted I didn't get them right.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
But at the same time I think it it definitely
shows that on this course you can't just pick out
of not knowing anything about them. And you know, earlier
on in this podcast series we got Ollie on and
he said that you know he wouldn't have picked us
being there at the end either, because you just don't know.
So I'm going to cover my ass here and say
(37:29):
it's because you just don't know at.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The it's true. It's it's I mean I picked the
final four. I thought it'd be Yana, Sam Burgess, Stefo
and Jack Kenny. So I got half of those right.
Who would leave first? You said Manu. I think he
was in for three or four days. I said, Brynn,
and absolutely nailed it. If anything, Brinna actually stayed longer
(37:56):
than I thought, so I agree.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
She surprised me as well.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yep, dark Horse, I said Pete Murray, You said Kerry Podcast.
We both missed the scud for dark Horse. The person
we thought would annoy the DS the most, we both
said Dan Ewing. Both look, we give Dan a bit
of gyp, but he's actually he's a very solid bloke.
(38:21):
But you know, he's an actor, and I think that
you know, it's a different game out there, but I
knew that being an actor, I could just I got
a sense that he was going to irritate the DS
because they just want to see the very element of
you straight away as fast as they can. They want
to see everything from you emotionally, physically and mentally as
(38:43):
fast as they can.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, they won that commitment right from the beginning, pretty
much after you've been gassed.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're expecting it right from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yep, yep, it's the world's worst first date. Well that's
it for the celebrity season of SAS Australia. But that's
not the end of this podcast. We're going to be
here again next week covering all the action from SAS
Australia hell week, which I can honestly say I can't
wait to see. I want to see why civilians want
(39:12):
to do this so much. It's not about fame, it's
not about money, It's about grit and I'm looking forward
to that, Sabrina.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I can't wait, and I can't wait to be there
with you next week.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Good times. Will this civilians be better than the celebrities.
I doubt it massively, So make sure that you don't
miss the thing. Watch SAS Australia on Channel seven and
seven plus and catch the SAS Australian Debrief right here
on the iHeartRadio app. Til next time, Take it easy.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thanks for listening guys,
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