October 2, 2025 • 40 mins
This week we spill all the tea involving the secret world of female-only swingers clubs. We dive deep into the celebrity divorce of Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman and seek legal advice on the do's and don'ts of getting divorced. Jana reveals why she was caught breaking the law in ways that'll leave you speechless!
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
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a real glow in the face.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I've broken my dry spell.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Everyone else is turning your heads, not really that interested.
How long was the dry spell?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was a log one.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
It was three and a half weeks between shags and
a dry spell.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That is a dry spell for me.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's a monsoon.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, yeah, in my dream, just the dry one, El
Nino Orina Lanina, which is the dry one?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Probably the female one.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I would see El Nino is the dry one. Sorry,
why are we talking about meteorological media?
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Can't even say the words because you're blasted by myself.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But yes, I did get laid, So happy days. I
think it's going to be a great show.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm really proud of you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It might be the last time you get laid unless
you've got conjugal visits on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because you're a criminal.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I am a criminal.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes, you did something that probably should have ended up
with you being in the slammer. Yeah, going to get
to that in fact that you committed a little later
on the show. Next, though, we're going to talk to
someone that has created. What she created and what it
has now turned into two very different things.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It's got the bisexual Brisbane moms all in a tis
and the fallout from the parties she hosts has been wild, raunchy,
and there ain't no dry spells with these women.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's what's the wet one again, Lenina, Nina, Sorry, we're
getting eye rolls enough. Where the chat? What is this woman,
what is she created? And what are Brisbane mums doing
as a result. We'll find out next Saucy Secrets on
Kiss Now.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Years ago, I first interviewed Genevieve from Skirt Club, she's
the creator, when I kept getting all these messages from
women on my Instagram saying, oh my god, you have
to interview this woman. She's created this underground club just
for women who want to explore their sexuality, and so
I made it my live mission to find Genevieve, track
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her down and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Ask her every question under the sun.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
That was about five years ago, and Skirt Club has
since gone wild. So she's joining us on the show
today to tell us all about it. Welcome Genevieve, Well,
thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Love you to see you again. Johna, how are you doing.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm very well and thank you for joining us. You're
in Paris, is that right?
Speaker 7 (03:27):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
I'm here to host Skirt Club Paris on Saturday nights,
so I'm in town.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Okay, So how would you summarize Skirt Club and what
made you create it?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Well, Skirt Club is a community for by curious or
bisexual women maybe also questioning it and sure yet and yeah,
it's a really safe place for woman just to develop
their own way, by their own journey and understand their
own bodies. And I created it now twelve years ago.
It's really flown by the time. And we're we're quite global.
We're in thirty six cities actually from London and yeah
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we're in Australia too, Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
What can someone expects, so say someone a woman's listening
at the moment and always you know, maybe she started
watching lesbian porn and when oh maybe I'm a little
bit curious if she was to turn up to one
of these clubs, what can she expect yes, well.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
Actually watching lesbian and porn is definitely an indicator that
you might be have a fan center explore what can
she expect? Well, Skirt club parties very soft and central.
You're welcomed by a team of women who have been
in your shoes and the party is jually themed. Web
with Desire is the thing we're using coming up for
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Australia next in December.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
And yeah, there's a dress cord, there's champagne flowing.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
There's typically about fifty or so other members who join,
and we play games, lots of icebreakers to get women
to know each other a little better, and then the
night is yours.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So are women expected, like, what's the expectation if you
do go? Can you just sit back and kind of watch?
Or is there is there a vibe that you should
probably take part?
Speaker 7 (05:12):
It's absolutely their expectation to take part.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
And most of our guests will stay up front there.
They're coming really just to see how they feel and
is it okay to sit back? The answer is absolutely yes,
of course.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Really does that happen? However, I do notice there's a lot.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Of nerves to begin with, and you know differently within
the first hour those nerves have gone, and so they
are wanting to participate, but of course, never any pressure
or at your own pace.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
And what are tips for women who because we all
know how to flirt with a man, it's pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We're not that hard to work out. Are we to
be honest? To show us attention? And sure? Done that tick.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Exactly, hint of cleavage and.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
How do you how do you even begin to flirt
with a woman?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Yeah? Actually it's the question I get a lot because
we're so used to being.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Flirted with that we don't well, men hate on us, right,
so we don't do that in return generally speaking.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
So when it comes to two women, who makes the
first move and.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
It's going to be one of you, so you may
will be yourself. It is how I approach that problem.
Typically with women, of course, we notice body language first.
If someone's looking a little more than usual, if she's
playing with her hair, if she's looking towards your lips maybe,
or she's very interested in asking questions.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Those are good indicators.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
If you want to express interest in a woman, then
give her the eye. Yeah, absolutely, go up to her
and ask the questions about herself and get to know her.
You may even tell her you like her, and as
we encourage at Skirt Club, consent it's always paramount ask
her if she'd like to kiss you.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
It's very sexy.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
The woman I spoke to who went to the Brisbane party,
she's been to a couple now. She said that a
lot of the way there have husbands, and she had
a husband, and so when she heard about Skirt Club
from my article Thank you very Much, she said that
she actually said to her husband, I've always wanted to
explore this, would you mind? And he said, go right ahead,
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and then she said it actually made their relationship stronger.
Is there a lot of married women at these events?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Yes, absolutely, and I don't have a concrete number, but
it's around seventy percent of our members who either have
a male partner or a husband.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
And this is something typically she's trying.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
For the first time within the boundaries of their relationship.
So there's an agreement to open up a little and
this is her way of experimenting that he feels safe with.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
And the fact that there are no men.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Allowed at their club quite strictly, a lot of husbands
and male partners feel safe with that.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Have you ever had a husband get in touch who's
angry at you for you know, you've opened this world
banging on the door, Yeah, bring out.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh you're in there. No, not directly, no, but that
have been you know, couples who have been surprised at
how much she enjoyed being with women and it's become
more of a focus for her and that wasn't expected
and that has how happened yet.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Now, Genevieve, I heard the wildest story that started at
one of your Skirt Club nights in Brisbane and it
involves wild orgies in Brisbane hotel room.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, we've got to talk about that next more with
the Genevieve Lujihn from Skirt Club.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
After this, it's Saucy Secrets on Kiss.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Today we're talking to Genevieve Lujehune, who is the co
creator of Skirt Club, which is designed for women who
want to explore their sexuality in a private, pretty party
with cocktails.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Took a really classy swimming swingers club for women right.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Exactly exactly, so I am excited to.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Chat to her.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Genevieve has stuck around. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Genevieve, what was it like when you first started this
because obviously at the time there was nothing like this around.
Did it pick up quite quickly? Did it take a
long time? How did you get the word out that
I'm trying to put a business in a night like
this together? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah, I mean this was all serendipity in many ways,
because you know, I started this purely for passion. I
did it at the weekend in London where I was
working in corporate life, and this really was my way
of balancing to have fun at the weekend. I also
wanted to meet other by women and it was really
hard at that time, like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, for
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women to own a label like bisexual.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
There's a lot of stigma attached to it.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
Often bisexuality with assume to be hyper sexual or greedy
or undecided or on your way to be gay.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
You know, there was no real definition or appreciation for
what it meant.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
So you know, it came for a place of a
pure love for other women and wanting to get them,
say spaces, and really it blew off in a way.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
That I didn't see coming.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
But there was a lot of press very quickly, and
I had not realized just how many women in the
world wanted this as well.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, and I was watching an interview you did recently,
and you've been to swingers clubs as well, and you
said the differences that at swingers clubs, and this is
only what I found was that women tend to perform
when there's men in the room, so they put on
a bit of a show and they're trying to impress
the men, or maybe they're not exploring what they sexually
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enjoy because they're doing this performance. Whereas do you find
at skirt club women are a lot more comfortable and
maybe probably it's easy to reach orgasm because you're not performing, I.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Mean, and that was another reason I began this club,
because I felt women did not have any connection with
their body, that they were performing for men, to please him,
for fear of losing him, to have an edge, you know,
and those aren't the right reasons.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
To be in a relationship. And of course why would he.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Know, So, you know, it was I wanted to reteach
women how to love and how to enjoy pleasure for
their own for the own reasons.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Okay, So when I spoke to this woman from Brisbane
who went she her husband had let her go and
she went there, and she basically.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Said it was all very sweet and there was like,
you know, lots of kissing.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
But then as the night went on, it did kind
of turn into like analogy, and then she said they
had such a wonderful time. She made a connection with
like five of the women who all had husband, they
all had school kids that now once a month they
all dropped their kids off at school, hire a hotel
room and just have a wonderful day together.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Is that not the best feel good story from spoke class.
When she first let into my DMS, I didn't believe.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It clear what you're inspiring.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
I love that for them.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Well, you really are doing God's work for the biosexual
women out there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
If someone's listening right now to this and they're thinking
to themselves, this actually sounds like compared to what you
talked about with the swingers club that you went to to,
what skirt Club's about, it's this really empowering, supportive, nice, warm,
genuine safe space for women to explore parts of themselves
that for many reasons they just haven't been able to
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or feel like they weren't allowed to. If there is
someone listening that's thinking, this is something that maybe I've
thought about exploring but haven't for whatever reason. How do
they get involved? How do they come along to one
of these nights that you host in Australia.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Coming up, We've got quite a few dates in Australia
and I'll be visiting myself for the month of December,
so we'll be hosting in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Our
biggest event will be December eleventh, Melbourne and I'll be
hosting that thing. Then you can come find us on
our website Club dot co dot UK. Just applied to
come a member. The approval process is pretty quick and
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then you could purchase a ticket to any of our
parties around the world.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Amazing, sounds like a great night.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
It's a shame that I can't come because it just
sounds like the most amazing community with what everyone just
gets on and has a good time.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Unfortunately not for that, No, I want to come.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well December eleven, Melbourne. It's a big, big party, I know.
Thank you so much for coming. Like every every episode
of this show, I learned something new. There's this whole
new world out there that I'm being exposed to. But
it just seems so nice and supportive.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I know it's the nicest swingers you'll ever contel, get
dressed up, smooth a woman.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Why not, Genevieve, thank you so much for coming on
Saucy Secrets. All the best are with the Australian events
and it sounds like you've created the most amazing community
and we.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wish you nothing but the best moving forward.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
This is Saucy Secrets on Kiss, Back to Saucy Secrets
on Kiss. The Confessional booth you didn't know you needed
with your no filter sex and dating columnist Jannah Hocking.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
To be honest, this this might be the last show
we ever do.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
When the police force, when the poe, when the Feds
find out later on what it was that you did.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm surprising you haven't already been locked up. You're a criminal.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I'm actually the more we talk about it, crimin I'm
nervous to share this story.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But do you know what if I do go to jail?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
More content a criminal Saucy Secret from Janna herself that
is coming up, but next look, it's it's the biggest
story on the planet right now.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
It is, so I don't know unless you've been hiding
under a rock, you would have heard by now that
Nicole Kidman is getting a divorce from Keith Herbert.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Even the Rocks are talking about it. That's how the
story is. It's literally everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, this is my favorite season and it's divorce season.
And I don't know if you knew.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That was a thing or just before Christmas l up
to the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
No, it's real because people realize, they realize have had
the worst hot mess of a year with each other.
And honestly, from October you'll see more and more announcements
from your friends, from celebrities who are looking at the
year ahead going I don't want to go into this
next year with you. Statistically it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So coming up next, we've got the most amazing divorce lawyers.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Seeker reading about this in the media.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We want to know the needy gaming what's actually going
on in this failed relationship.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yes, and this divorce lawyer has seen everything, So we'll
get the wildest divorce stories and we'll find out what's
in store for Nicole and Keith.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
All right up next, Saucy Secrets on Kiss.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you would know
that Nicole Kidman has filed for divorce.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
What I know true love is dead.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's dead, and I am obsessed.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I may have been up till two am this morning
researching writing for Daily Mail about their divorce. It is
my favorite season of the year, divorce season, and.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We're just warming up. So we've got the most amazing lawyer.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, we're not going to fall for what the tabloids
are writing. We want to get the juicy details from
an absolute expert. So joined on Saucy Secrets tonight by
divorce lawyer Irene Chris Obiliedi's Irene, thank you so much
for coming on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We appreciate it, and.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Thank you so very much for having me. Janna and Michael,
It's a pleasure to be joining you both. Now, are
you just living for the news at the moment? Like,
what was your response when you heard that they were
getting a divorce? The news about Nicole Kidman and Keith
Obens divorce has caught everybody's attention, But to me, the
reality is we face these issues every single day in
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the work we do.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
So was I surprised a little bit? Was I really surprised?
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Not really?
Speaker 6 (16:30):
And so the fact that they've been married for seventeen years.
Is this just like Christmas for the divorce lawyers who
are going.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
To hash through their finances and their property and custody, Like,
where do you even begin with a divorce like this?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah, and look, I guess after I believe it was
about nineteen years of marriage, and we know this couple
to be the perfect iconic Hollywood couple. And surprisingly it's
usually those couples that end up splitting.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
After all those years.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Unfortunately, on paper, from my understanding, it looks like Keith
and Nicole have already agreed to a lot. We understand
that there's been some more formal documentation that's been filed
in the.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Court which outlines certain.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Proposals in relation to their property and parenting matters. The
detailed settlement covers things like who's going to take primary
care of the children, the children being of an age
where they can express their wishes and desires. And then
obviously the more complex aspect of this divorce settlement is
absolutely going to be their property matters.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So they would have been working behind the scenes a
lot before this even came out. But she's worth a
lot more money than him. I think she's worth something
like two hundred and fifty million, and oh, hang.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Your head in shame, he's only worth seventy million.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Embarrassing and penny.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
And they've obviously got a tight pre that they would
have had in place. They heard a crazy rumor that
he gets a million dollars for every year of the
marriage that he didn't do cocaine or drink alcohol like me.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Strange, strange.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And that's the thing, you know, it's not a one
size fits all model when we talk about prenups, and
just for the sake of our audience's understandings. More commonly
in Australia, a prenup is known as a binding financial
agreement or a BFA, which is essentially an agreement that
the parties will create prior to getting married, which sets
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out what's going to.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Happen if the marriage breaks off.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And it's not a one size fits all model. If
Keith came to the table at that time and said, hey,
you know what, Nicole, babe, I'm happy to agree to
these terms. Let's go in, let's sign this agreement, and
Nicole was happy to accept that, then that's what they did.
And I'm sure as halla read some really strange bfas marriage.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So, but I want to know what was her divorced
lawyer doing even setting up the prenup seventeen years ago
in place where it was a good idea for her
to promise him a million dollars per year just to
be sober.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Like why how I'm trying to figure out why that was.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
A good idea to keep him sober for all that time? Yeah,
but why am really it was bribery? I don't know,
It's bizarre, That's.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
What it feels like. It feels like bribery too.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
The reality is, when it comes to these prenups, the
details in the final print, there needs to be some
background in some context that we're missing here to understand
exactly why something like that would have been committed to,
because that is a huge commitment by Nicole simply to say,
stay off the cocaine and I'll pay you this.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Money, okay, And we are hearing rumors that perhaps he's
already got a girlfriend. If there were questions around was
there own affair, did someone cheat?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Does that have any effect on.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Financial issues with like does he have to forfeit some
of his money or can she go for you know,
a high percentage of their joint properties because he messed.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Up the marriage.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Essentially, we live in a no fault divorce system, which
means the reasons for the divorce are irrelevant to the court.
If Keith was in fact having an affair or was
with another woman, it's irrelevant to the divorce proceedings. What
is relevant is did he spend matrimonial funds joint funds
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on that woman during the marriage.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
And that's where it gets tricky.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
So so how would you if I was Nicole and
I wanted to prove like he bought her a boob job, say,
and that was from you know, my joint perfect stranger's
money or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What would you, as a lawyer do in the courts
to prove that.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
It's really really interesting that we're talking about this very
topic right now, because there's been a recent case in
Australia which talks about a concept of add backs money
that has been spent during the marriage or after the
separation date, which we essentially cannot add back to the
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matrimonial pull wastage of funds, which could in fact be
categorically the price paid on the boob job of the mistress.
Let's say, yeah, so it gets really tricky now with
this new case and this new precedent that's been set
in Australia, because if Nicole was divorcing here and that
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was an issue for her where Keith was spending money
on this other woman from the joint funds, she couldn't
in fact seek to get those funds added back to
the net asset pool.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
But it wouldn't look too good if the matter was
to go to court.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Right God Daily, Melwood, eat that.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Up with live.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Look aside from these rumors of Keith ptently moving on
with a much younger woman, it seems relatively amicable, which
is somewhat boring. You did mention that you have come
across rather saucy and nasty divorces. We want to talk
about that next. And you did mention it's divorce season, Janna, Yeah,
which apparently is a thing. If someone's listening right now,
they're going, you know what, they're looking at that husband
(22:20):
wife going yeah, nah, it's time to Nicole, kidman my
ass out of here. We want to get the do's
and don't so they don't end up in tricky legal battles.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Is that okay? If we can run that by you.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
As well, absolutely more with divorce lawyer Irene chris Apaliti's
next saucy Secrets on Kiss. We are joined on the
show by expert divorce lawyer Irene Chrisapalites.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
She's incredible on TikTok, she gives the most amazing divorce
advice and we're so lucky.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
To have her today.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Obviously, Nicole Kidman Keith Urban in the news their divorce.
It is literally everywhere, but we thought, you know, not
everyone has millions of dollars in the bank account and
can't just call up their shot lawyers to help with
a divorce, right, It's not that easy for those people.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
No, it's not, and even trying to figure out where
to begin, it's overwhelming. So let's break down exactly the
dos and don'ts of.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Divorce absolutely so. Look, my advice to my clients is
simple but powerful. A protect yourself through clarity and preparation
is what I tell my clients, and that starts by
being completely transparent about your finances from the outset of
a relationship or more importantly, before you get married to
(23:32):
that person. Because money kept in the dark is often
it often becomes a bigger source of distress later on
and the biggest, the biggest source of conflict later on,
So keep clear records of who owns what.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
So I think we all really want to know what
are the wildest divorce stories.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You've looked after? We're all waiting for divorce story.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I've seen cases where parents have been in constant conflict
for years, sometimes over very small issues that escalate quickly.
And the reality is we're seeing more and more tricky
issues arise over social media.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
How someoney is presenting to.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
The world, who they're talking to, who's sliding into their dms,
asking to see each other's phones. It's these little issues
that are becoming massive issues in the relationship.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
And what's been really really interesting for us is to see.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
The way culture in society has changed reasons for divorce.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
I was talking to James Sexton, who is a New
York divorce attorney, this week, and he said to me
that Apple and iPhones and ye clouds and iPads have
paid for his holiday house.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Because people forget that.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
They're like, you know, they leave the couple watch on
the bed, sidete and go have a shower, and then
a saucy picture comes up from their secretary. Have you
found similar things where people just aren't remembering that technology
holds all their secrets.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Absolutely, Janna, And we live in a day and age
now where technology is taking over and secret slip and
if you get one setting one toggle bar off, you're
getting a missed call on your kid's iPad from your
girlfriends at work, and that can cause massive dramas. So, yes,
(25:35):
our evidence files on our client's cases do contain multiple
screenshots of those types of matters. Do you find it
easier as a lawyer now that you do have all
this digital footprint to make a case stronger because someone
has whipped out their iPhone during an argument, or they
have got the evidence of someone cheating through text messages
(25:58):
to really kind of go to town on them if.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
You need to.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yes, I find that it is much easier as a
lawyer in this day and age to collate that type
of evidence because it's there, it's.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Black and white.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
But not only that, I also say that we do
need to acknowledge that there are great benefits in our
ability to access this type of technological advancement because of
the fact that we've got apps that can provide clients
with a platform to communicate safely as well if needed,
(26:33):
and that there are records of that communication in apps
like parenting apps and others like that.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
If you are someone listening right now and you're like, okay,
I need to start the proceedings, what are three things
they should do straight away to begin the divorce procedure
that will put them on the best foot forward.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
The first thing I recommend you do is get your
emotions in check, because you need to be of a
rational mind to enter this process. And quite often do
we find that parties come to see us, of course
in the darkest moments of their lives, but really emotionally charged.
And those emotions aren't going to get you very five.
(27:16):
You're not thinking straight or hearing the advice that's going
to come to you. Secondly, the advice i'd give people
is that they get their finances in order. My third
piece of advice is this, make sure you fully understand
your legal options, legal costs, and your responsibilities.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
And I've got one more.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
If there are kids involved, always remember their best interests
is what is the primary consideration of the court. The
court don't care about you as a parent. They care
that the child is safe and well taken care of.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Now, just finally it is divorced season.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
So I've heard that, Like, you know, a lot of
people are getting to the end of the year and
they're going, what a hell of a year we've had.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm exhausted. I can't stand you. I don't want to
start next year still in this hot mess.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
So have you noticed a lot of people are starting
to come to you now? I heard the second of
January is the most popular day for people to file
for divorce because they're like, I'm not doing.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Another year of this.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
But are you noticing now people are really warming up
and like you've had an uptake in business.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh yeah, I noticed it in the gym when you
see all the new people walk.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
That's so true. That's so true.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Actually a.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Year, everybody's getting ready for summer.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
That could be something going on at home, but yeah, look,
it's unfortunate. But the reality is as we head towards
the end of the year, people are starting to think
exactly that, Jana, I'm not going into another year of
this BS. I'm going in with a fresh slate, and
people are starting to feel more empowered to make those
careerous decisions.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Ireen, thank you so much for coming on saucy secrets
and really dumbing down what can often be a really
complicated and quite traumatic experience. But you know, if anyone
wants to get divorced, you're welcome. This is Saucy Secrets
on Kiss. This is Saucy Secrets on Kiss. The confessional
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speak on this show, because I'm almost certain the police
are waiting at the gates, ready to escort you out
of kiss after what you're about to tell.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You're about to.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Admit, Yes, I am bringing my own saucy secret to
the table this week, and I should be ashamed about it,
but I am not because I stand by all my
actions for the story I'm about to tell. So let
me start by saying, I broke into my ex's house
one night, went through his phone, deleted my I call
(30:23):
them chelfies, which were selfies of my chest my babies,
all right, and then I commander ruled out.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's a much nicer way of saying titpic. Isn't it
a chelfie?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think it's class.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Tit pick.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But I wrote about this. I did not think this
was a big deal, and then it blew up.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I was writing for news dot com, dot you back then,
and I was like, Oh, what am I going to
write about this week? I was talking to my owner
and I was like, oh, I broke into my ex's
house one.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Time, casually like yeah, I was like maybe that's something.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
She's like, no, no, that's something.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
So I was in a relationship and shit with a guy,
and I would love to say that he was toxic, but.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I think we were both.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now, your behavior is completely normal here, You're totally fine.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I know you're like Lang, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And we'd broken up, and I was well aware, this
was like ten years ago, that he had a lot
of pictures on my boobs and my proudest asset. They are,
you know, I was blessed with a big set, and
so I'd like to show them off when I'm feeling
particularly horny. And it was two am in the morning,
and I had gone through all the emotions of the breakup,
(31:32):
and I was I cried, I'd got angry. But then
I was like, oh, no, he's got all these pictures,
he's in, he's got michel Fish, he's in a bad mood.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He might get a bit revenge, ye. And this was
before the laws for revenge porn had come out.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I could just send it and not really getting any
kind of trouble exactly.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
And I just had the fear of God that he
was going to go to the pub the next day,
bitch to everyone about the breakup, and then show them.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
A little goodness.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, And I had this genius idea. I know he's
a deep sleeper. He likes the herbal supplements, if you
know what I mean. And so he was in a
deep sleep.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
This is like a full blown home invasion. While he's
there upstairs in bed.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So I knew that the window wouldn't lock properly.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You went through the window.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, his dog, Axle was there, this beautiful staff and
chit terrier. I pated him. I said, oh, Axel. I
quickly snuck in his room.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Did you wear a balaclava? No, what were you wearing
when you were in all black with a hood? What
were you wearing?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
It's two am in the morning. I think I was
still in my pajamas. I was just one of those
mad moments. I was like, just get up and do
it before you was out. Hopped in my car, drove
to his house and went through his window, patted his dog,
found his phone.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Thank god. This was before the thumb prints or the
face prints, like you.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Knew the pink code or sometimes I didn't even have them.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Then to too too too.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So I went into he's hurriedly now changing his pink code.
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, just completely expled what we're going. We know his
dog's name, his phone, pin code, what's his address.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I'm already going to jail.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
It is no just so.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Then I went through his phone, found all the pictures,
deleted them. And here's the tip.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Girls, you don't just delete them, you delete them from
the deleted folder as well. I had no rookie, this
is not my first time, deleted it from that, strutted
on out, went back through the window, drove home, had
the best night sleep of my life.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Great and then you went on, didn't think about it,
put it in an article. Oh my god. The internet
erupted and I had lad Bible reach out and they
wrote a response article about it, and it was this
beautiful guy and he said, I really wanted to take
you to town for doing this and say that you
(33:48):
should be in jail and this is terrible, but he's like, no,
I stand by it. That was a really good decision.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Did the blog ever realize? Oh yeah, that story.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Went viral and he sent me your message going how
dare you? And then there was a bit of backup, Sorry,
what's so?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
The police have just made their way in. Anyway, it's
been nice knowing you. You're off to Long Bay. It's
been really a joyable on that Sheery note we have
reached the end of yet another Saucy Secrets. As always,
you lead a life.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You lead a life.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
I don't realize they do until I see your face
during this entire show and go, oh yeah, you think it's.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Normal, which is the funny part.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Oh yeah, I broke into my ex's house and that's
a totally normal thing, and I'll do it again anyway.
Saucy Secrets live from Maximum Security next weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
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Speaker 3 (34:30):
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Speaker 1 (34:36):
Hopefully see you next week. So I don't know about you,
but I use chat GPT for everything.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Can I be honest?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, I might be the only person on the planet
that has never used chat shop. I've never used it.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Okay, I give you one afternoon to just play around
with it, and you will never look back.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It's funny because it's now become like a normal part
of most people's lives.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Live therapist and my best friend.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You can get recipes if you want to cook something.
If you don't know how to write an uncomfortable work email,
you can run it through chat chapt like.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It literally does everything I think it's genius.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I've used it to text boys, I've used it to
break up with boys, I've used it for everything. But
this Only Fans creator has now brought chat chipet into
the bedroom, right, and I think she's a genius.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So her name is Alex Alex Link, and she's created
an AI version of herself to do some of the
more undesirable jobs that comes with being an Only Fans creator.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So when you say an AI version of her self,
is it just like to chat or is it photos
and videos?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Everything?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
So right, I discovered the other day with Only Fans,
you actually it's not just putting up some saucy pictures
of yourself or doing some kinky videos. You actually to
make money, you have to speak to your fans so
much as I know, it's like having a thousand boyfriends
and they can send you request, so can I have
(36:03):
a video of you sucking your toe?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Can you? And then you send it to them and
you get extra mindy.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So like, the more personalized the experience with their subscribers,
the more money they're going to make, as opposed to
just oh, here's a new photo gallery of fifteen photos
exactly Trevor wants a photo of a tosuck and Trev's
gonna pay more money for that.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Exact true, and it's such a dog eat dog word.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
But this girl, Alex Link, she's brought AI into it,
so she's created her own AI twin that can constantly
be putting out content, not just her and the stuff
that she doesn't feel comfortable doing, she'll get her AI
twin to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I'm assuming that this stuff is probably for like creepy
and intense stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, She's like, I don't.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Want to do it and it's creepy, but I do
want your money, So I'm going to get this AI
twin to sub in for me. And then it's kind
of genius because then she's online twenty four to seven,
so she might want to go to bed at nine
pm one night and not send all these saucy texts.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
So it's also like a secretary as opposed to doing
the dirty stuff. She doesn't want to it just replies
to emails.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes exactly, but they saucy emails. So I think she's
a genius.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
She's got two million followers on Instagram, she's got a
huge audience on only fans. I think this girl's going
to last a distance. It got me thinking. I was like, well,
what are some jobs that I would like to.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Give to an AI persona of myself in the bedroom?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Okay, So I threw it out to all my WhatsApp
groups and I said to them, even AI twin of
yourself could do all this stuff you didn't want to
do in the bedroom, what would you get them to do?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
And the responses were hilarious.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
So one of my friends wrote, she can handle the
whole talk dirty bit because honestly, I just run out
of material after five minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
My AI twin can just keep going and going and going.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Have you seen that.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Instagram where it's a girl like making dinner while like
sexting her boyfriend and he's like really in the.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Moment, she's stirring upon going Yes, I want.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
To do that to you. Yeah, do it while she's
making the dinner, whereas your little AI twin can do
that for you. Another said, my AI clone can do
all the morning sex. I'm sorry, but before coffee, forget it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I don't get the one because I love morning sex.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, I'm assuming that AI chatbots don't have like morning
breath either, and they don't have bed hair so they can.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Just get it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
They're good to go. They're good to go.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Another said, my AI double can take care of the
endless what's your fantasy chit chat?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
She's got a whole script ready to go.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Oh my got Another girl wrote, he can deal with
the fetch me a towel moment I'm while I'm busy
lying stuffish, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
It's so awkward that bit. So yeah, AI can be
like guys, you you cud all over there.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'll go get the towel, deal with the queen.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Um oh.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Another girl wrote, let's be real. My AI twin can
take care of the back door request. That's her job,
not mine. Amen's sister, I'll tea what. Sure, you can
go down the path of AI. But it's not real, guys,
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This is, without doubt the sauciest couple of hours of
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We are back.
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This is Saucy Secrets, joined by sex and Dating columnist
Jaddah Hawking Jada.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hello, Hello, it's been a very quick week.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I guess it's been a well now it's been
the same amount of time between every time.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Can you do that?
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you did walk in with a spring in your step today, guys,
a real glow in the face.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I've broken my dry spell.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Everyone else is turning your heads, not really that interested.
How long was the dry spell?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I was a log one.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
It was three and a half weeks between shags and
a dry spell.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That is a dry spell for me.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's a monsoon.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, yeah, in my dream, just the dry one, El
Nino Orina Lanina, which is the dry one?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Probably the female one.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I would see El Nino is the dry one. Sorry,
why are we talking about meteorological media?
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Can't even say the words because you're blasted by myself.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
But yes, I did get laid, So happy days. I
think it's going to be a great show.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm really proud of you.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It might be the last time you get laid unless
you've got conjugal visits on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Because you're a criminal.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I am a criminal.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yes, you did something that probably should have ended up
with you being in the slammer. Yeah, going to get
to that in fact that you committed a little later
on the show. Next, though, we're going to talk to
someone that has created. What she created and what it
has now turned into two very different things.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
It's got the bisexual Brisbane moms all in a tis
and the fallout from the parties she hosts has been wild, raunchy,
and there ain't no dry spells with these women.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's what's the wet one again, Lenina, Nina, Sorry, we're
getting eye rolls enough. Where the chat? What is this woman,
what is she created? And what are Brisbane mums doing
as a result. We'll find out next Saucy Secrets on
Kiss Now.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Years ago, I first interviewed Genevieve from Skirt Club, she's
the creator, when I kept getting all these messages from
women on my Instagram saying, oh my god, you have
to interview this woman. She's created this underground club just
for women who want to explore their sexuality, and so
I made it my live mission to find Genevieve, track
(03:05):
her down and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Ask her every question under the sun.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
That was about five years ago, and Skirt Club has
since gone wild. So she's joining us on the show
today to tell us all about it. Welcome Genevieve, Well,
thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
Love you to see you again. Johna, how are you doing.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm very well and thank you for joining us. You're
in Paris, is that right?
Speaker 7 (03:27):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (03:27):
I'm here to host Skirt Club Paris on Saturday nights,
so I'm in town.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Okay, So how would you summarize Skirt Club and what
made you create it?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (03:38):
Well, Skirt Club is a community for by curious or
bisexual women maybe also questioning it and sure yet and yeah,
it's a really safe place for woman just to develop
their own way, by their own journey and understand their
own bodies. And I created it now twelve years ago.
It's really flown by the time. And we're we're quite global.
We're in thirty six cities actually from London and yeah
(04:02):
we're in Australia too, Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
What can someone expects, so say someone a woman's listening
at the moment and always you know, maybe she started
watching lesbian porn and when oh maybe I'm a little
bit curious if she was to turn up to one
of these clubs, what can she expect yes, well.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
Actually watching lesbian and porn is definitely an indicator that
you might be have a fan center explore what can
she expect? Well, Skirt club parties very soft and central.
You're welcomed by a team of women who have been
in your shoes and the party is jually themed. Web
with Desire is the thing we're using coming up for
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Australia next in December.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
And yeah, there's a dress cord, there's champagne flowing.
Speaker 8 (04:47):
There's typically about fifty or so other members who join,
and we play games, lots of icebreakers to get women
to know each other a little better, and then the
night is yours.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So are women expected, like, what's the expectation if you
do go? Can you just sit back and kind of watch?
Or is there is there a vibe that you should
probably take part?
Speaker 7 (05:12):
It's absolutely their expectation to take part.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
And most of our guests will stay up front there.
They're coming really just to see how they feel and
is it okay to sit back? The answer is absolutely yes,
of course.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Really does that happen? However, I do notice there's a lot.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Of nerves to begin with, and you know differently within
the first hour those nerves have gone, and so they
are wanting to participate, but of course, never any pressure
or at your own pace.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
And what are tips for women who because we all
know how to flirt with a man, it's pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
We're not that hard to work out. Are we to
be honest? To show us attention? And sure? Done that tick.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Exactly, hint of cleavage and.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
How do you how do you even begin to flirt
with a woman?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Yeah? Actually it's the question I get a lot because
we're so used to being.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Flirted with that we don't well, men hate on us, right,
so we don't do that in return generally speaking.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
So when it comes to two women, who makes the
first move and.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
It's going to be one of you, so you may
will be yourself. It is how I approach that problem.
Typically with women, of course, we notice body language first.
If someone's looking a little more than usual, if she's
playing with her hair, if she's looking towards your lips maybe,
or she's very interested in asking questions.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Those are good indicators.
Speaker 8 (06:31):
If you want to express interest in a woman, then
give her the eye. Yeah, absolutely, go up to her
and ask the questions about herself and get to know her.
You may even tell her you like her, and as
we encourage at Skirt Club, consent it's always paramount ask
her if she'd like to kiss you.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
It's very sexy.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
The woman I spoke to who went to the Brisbane party,
she's been to a couple now. She said that a
lot of the way there have husbands, and she had
a husband, and so when she heard about Skirt Club
from my article Thank you very Much, she said that
she actually said to her husband, I've always wanted to
explore this, would you mind? And he said, go right ahead,
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and then she said it actually made their relationship stronger.
Is there a lot of married women at these events?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
Yes, absolutely, and I don't have a concrete number, but
it's around seventy percent of our members who either have
a male partner or a husband.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
And this is something typically she's trying.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
For the first time within the boundaries of their relationship.
So there's an agreement to open up a little and
this is her way of experimenting that he feels safe with.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
And the fact that there are no men.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
Allowed at their club quite strictly, a lot of husbands
and male partners feel safe with that.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Have you ever had a husband get in touch who's
angry at you for you know, you've opened this world
banging on the door, Yeah, bring out.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Oh you're in there. No, not directly, no, but that
have been you know, couples who have been surprised at
how much she enjoyed being with women and it's become
more of a focus for her and that wasn't expected
and that has how happened yet.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Now, Genevieve, I heard the wildest story that started at
one of your Skirt Club nights in Brisbane and it
involves wild orgies in Brisbane hotel room.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, we've got to talk about that next more with
the Genevieve Lujihn from Skirt Club.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
After this, it's Saucy Secrets on Kiss.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Today we're talking to Genevieve Lujehune, who is the co
creator of Skirt Club, which is designed for women who
want to explore their sexuality in a private, pretty party
with cocktails.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Took a really classy swimming swingers club for women right.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Exactly exactly, so I am excited to.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Chat to her.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Genevieve has stuck around. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Genevieve, what was it like when you first started this
because obviously at the time there was nothing like this around.
Did it pick up quite quickly? Did it take a
long time? How did you get the word out that
I'm trying to put a business in a night like
this together? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah, I mean this was all serendipity in many ways,
because you know, I started this purely for passion. I
did it at the weekend in London where I was
working in corporate life, and this really was my way
of balancing to have fun at the weekend. I also
wanted to meet other by women and it was really
hard at that time, like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, for
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women to own a label like bisexual.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
There's a lot of stigma attached to it.
Speaker 8 (09:34):
Often bisexuality with assume to be hyper sexual or greedy
or undecided or on your way to be gay.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
You know, there was no real definition or appreciation for
what it meant.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
So you know, it came for a place of a
pure love for other women and wanting to get them,
say spaces, and really it blew off in a way.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
That I didn't see coming.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
But there was a lot of press very quickly, and
I had not realized just how many women in the
world wanted this as well.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, and I was watching an interview you did recently,
and you've been to swingers clubs as well, and you
said the differences that at swingers clubs, and this is
only what I found was that women tend to perform
when there's men in the room, so they put on
a bit of a show and they're trying to impress
the men, or maybe they're not exploring what they sexually
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enjoy because they're doing this performance. Whereas do you find
at skirt club women are a lot more comfortable and
maybe probably it's easy to reach orgasm because you're not performing, I.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
Mean, and that was another reason I began this club,
because I felt women did not have any connection with
their body, that they were performing for men, to please him,
for fear of losing him, to have an edge, you know,
and those aren't the right reasons.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
To be in a relationship. And of course why would he.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Know, So, you know, it was I wanted to reteach
women how to love and how to enjoy pleasure for
their own for the own reasons.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Okay, So when I spoke to this woman from Brisbane
who went she her husband had let her go and
she went there, and she basically.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Said it was all very sweet and there was like,
you know, lots of kissing.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
But then as the night went on, it did kind
of turn into like analogy, and then she said they
had such a wonderful time. She made a connection with
like five of the women who all had husband, they
all had school kids that now once a month they
all dropped their kids off at school, hire a hotel
room and just have a wonderful day together.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Is that not the best feel good story from spoke class.
When she first let into my DMS, I didn't believe.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It clear what you're inspiring.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
I love that for them.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Well, you really are doing God's work for the biosexual
women out there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
If someone's listening right now to this and they're thinking
to themselves, this actually sounds like compared to what you
talked about with the swingers club that you went to to,
what skirt Club's about, it's this really empowering, supportive, nice, warm,
genuine safe space for women to explore parts of themselves
that for many reasons they just haven't been able to
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or feel like they weren't allowed to. If there is
someone listening that's thinking, this is something that maybe I've
thought about exploring but haven't for whatever reason. How do
they get involved? How do they come along to one
of these nights that you host in Australia.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Coming up, We've got quite a few dates in Australia
and I'll be visiting myself for the month of December,
so we'll be hosting in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Our
biggest event will be December eleventh, Melbourne and I'll be
hosting that thing. Then you can come find us on
our website Club dot co dot UK. Just applied to
come a member. The approval process is pretty quick and
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then you could purchase a ticket to any of our
parties around the world.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Amazing, sounds like a great night.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
It's a shame that I can't come because it just
sounds like the most amazing community with what everyone just
gets on and has a good time.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Unfortunately not for that, No, I want to come.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well December eleven, Melbourne. It's a big, big party, I know.
Thank you so much for coming. Like every every episode
of this show, I learned something new. There's this whole
new world out there that I'm being exposed to. But
it just seems so nice and supportive.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I know it's the nicest swingers you'll ever contel, get
dressed up, smooth a woman.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Why not, Genevieve, thank you so much for coming on
Saucy Secrets. All the best are with the Australian events
and it sounds like you've created the most amazing community
and we.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Wish you nothing but the best moving forward.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
This is Saucy Secrets on Kiss, Back to Saucy Secrets
on Kiss. The Confessional booth you didn't know you needed
with your no filter sex and dating columnist Jannah Hocking.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
To be honest, this this might be the last show
we ever do.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
When the police force, when the poe, when the Feds
find out later on what it was that you did.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm surprising you haven't already been locked up. You're a criminal.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I'm actually the more we talk about it, crimin I'm
nervous to share this story.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But do you know what if I do go to jail?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
More content a criminal Saucy Secret from Janna herself that
is coming up, but next look, it's it's the biggest
story on the planet right now.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
It is, so I don't know unless you've been hiding
under a rock, you would have heard by now that
Nicole Kidman is getting a divorce from Keith Herbert.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Even the Rocks are talking about it. That's how the
story is. It's literally everywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, this is my favorite season and it's divorce season.
And I don't know if you knew.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That was a thing or just before Christmas l up
to the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
No, it's real because people realize, they realize have had
the worst hot mess of a year with each other.
And honestly, from October you'll see more and more announcements
from your friends, from celebrities who are looking at the
year ahead going I don't want to go into this
next year with you. Statistically it's a thing.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So coming up next, we've got the most amazing divorce lawyers.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Seeker reading about this in the media.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We want to know the needy gaming what's actually going
on in this failed relationship.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yes, and this divorce lawyer has seen everything, So we'll
get the wildest divorce stories and we'll find out what's
in store for Nicole and Keith.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
All right up next, Saucy Secrets on Kiss.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you would know
that Nicole Kidman has filed for divorce.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
What I know true love is dead.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's dead, and I am obsessed.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
I may have been up till two am this morning
researching writing for Daily Mail about their divorce. It is
my favorite season of the year, divorce season, and.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
We're just warming up. So we've got the most amazing lawyer.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, we're not going to fall for what the tabloids
are writing. We want to get the juicy details from
an absolute expert. So joined on Saucy Secrets tonight by
divorce lawyer Irene Chris Obiliedi's Irene, thank you so much
for coming on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We appreciate it, and.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Thank you so very much for having me. Janna and Michael,
It's a pleasure to be joining you both. Now, are
you just living for the news at the moment? Like,
what was your response when you heard that they were
getting a divorce? The news about Nicole Kidman and Keith
Obens divorce has caught everybody's attention, But to me, the
reality is we face these issues every single day in
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the work we do.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
So was I surprised a little bit? Was I really surprised?
Speaker 8 (16:29):
Not really?
Speaker 6 (16:30):
And so the fact that they've been married for seventeen years.
Is this just like Christmas for the divorce lawyers who
are going.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
To hash through their finances and their property and custody, Like,
where do you even begin with a divorce like this?
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah, and look, I guess after I believe it was
about nineteen years of marriage, and we know this couple
to be the perfect iconic Hollywood couple. And surprisingly it's
usually those couples that end up splitting.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
After all those years.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Unfortunately, on paper, from my understanding, it looks like Keith
and Nicole have already agreed to a lot. We understand
that there's been some more formal documentation that's been filed
in the.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Court which outlines certain.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Proposals in relation to their property and parenting matters. The
detailed settlement covers things like who's going to take primary
care of the children, the children being of an age
where they can express their wishes and desires. And then
obviously the more complex aspect of this divorce settlement is
absolutely going to be their property matters.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So they would have been working behind the scenes a
lot before this even came out. But she's worth a
lot more money than him. I think she's worth something
like two hundred and fifty million, and oh, hang.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Your head in shame, he's only worth seventy million.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Embarrassing and penny.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
And they've obviously got a tight pre that they would
have had in place. They heard a crazy rumor that
he gets a million dollars for every year of the
marriage that he didn't do cocaine or drink alcohol like me.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Strange, strange.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
And that's the thing, you know, it's not a one
size fits all model when we talk about prenups, and
just for the sake of our audience's understandings. More commonly
in Australia, a prenup is known as a binding financial
agreement or a BFA, which is essentially an agreement that
the parties will create prior to getting married, which sets
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out what's going to.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
Happen if the marriage breaks off.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
And it's not a one size fits all model. If
Keith came to the table at that time and said, hey,
you know what, Nicole, babe, I'm happy to agree to
these terms. Let's go in, let's sign this agreement, and
Nicole was happy to accept that, then that's what they did.
And I'm sure as halla read some really strange bfas marriage.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So, but I want to know what was her divorced
lawyer doing even setting up the prenup seventeen years ago
in place where it was a good idea for her
to promise him a million dollars per year just to
be sober.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Like why how I'm trying to figure out why that was.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
A good idea to keep him sober for all that time? Yeah,
but why am really it was bribery? I don't know,
It's bizarre, That's.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
What it feels like. It feels like bribery too.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
The reality is, when it comes to these prenups, the
details in the final print, there needs to be some
background in some context that we're missing here to understand
exactly why something like that would have been committed to,
because that is a huge commitment by Nicole simply to say,
stay off the cocaine and I'll pay you this.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Money, okay, And we are hearing rumors that perhaps he's
already got a girlfriend. If there were questions around was
there own affair, did someone cheat?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Does that have any effect on.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Financial issues with like does he have to forfeit some
of his money or can she go for you know,
a high percentage of their joint properties because he messed.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Up the marriage.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Essentially, we live in a no fault divorce system, which
means the reasons for the divorce are irrelevant to the court.
If Keith was in fact having an affair or was
with another woman, it's irrelevant to the divorce proceedings. What
is relevant is did he spend matrimonial funds joint funds
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on that woman during the marriage.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
And that's where it gets tricky.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
So so how would you if I was Nicole and
I wanted to prove like he bought her a boob job, say,
and that was from you know, my joint perfect stranger's
money or something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What would you, as a lawyer do in the courts
to prove that.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
It's really really interesting that we're talking about this very
topic right now, because there's been a recent case in
Australia which talks about a concept of add backs money
that has been spent during the marriage or after the
separation date, which we essentially cannot add back to the
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matrimonial pull wastage of funds, which could in fact be
categorically the price paid on the boob job of the mistress.
Let's say, yeah, so it gets really tricky now with
this new case and this new precedent that's been set
in Australia, because if Nicole was divorcing here and that
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was an issue for her where Keith was spending money
on this other woman from the joint funds, she couldn't
in fact seek to get those funds added back to
the net asset pool.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
But it wouldn't look too good if the matter was
to go to court.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Right God Daily, Melwood, eat that.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
Up with live.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Look aside from these rumors of Keith ptently moving on
with a much younger woman, it seems relatively amicable, which
is somewhat boring. You did mention that you have come
across rather saucy and nasty divorces. We want to talk
about that next. And you did mention it's divorce season, Janna, Yeah,
which apparently is a thing. If someone's listening right now,
they're going, you know what, they're looking at that husband
(22:20):
wife going yeah, nah, it's time to Nicole, kidman my
ass out of here. We want to get the do's
and don't so they don't end up in tricky legal battles.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Is that okay? If we can run that by you.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
As well, absolutely more with divorce lawyer Irene chris Apaliti's
next saucy Secrets on Kiss. We are joined on the
show by expert divorce lawyer Irene Chrisapalites.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
She's incredible on TikTok, she gives the most amazing divorce
advice and we're so lucky.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
To have her today.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Obviously, Nicole Kidman Keith Urban in the news their divorce.
It is literally everywhere, but we thought, you know, not
everyone has millions of dollars in the bank account and
can't just call up their shot lawyers to help with
a divorce, right, It's not that easy for those people.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
No, it's not, and even trying to figure out where
to begin, it's overwhelming. So let's break down exactly the
dos and don'ts of.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Divorce absolutely so. Look, my advice to my clients is
simple but powerful. A protect yourself through clarity and preparation
is what I tell my clients, and that starts by
being completely transparent about your finances from the outset of
a relationship or more importantly, before you get married to
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that person. Because money kept in the dark is often
it often becomes a bigger source of distress later on
and the biggest, the biggest source of conflict later on,
So keep clear records of who owns what.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
So I think we all really want to know what
are the wildest divorce stories.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You've looked after? We're all waiting for divorce story.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I've seen cases where parents have been in constant conflict
for years, sometimes over very small issues that escalate quickly.
And the reality is we're seeing more and more tricky
issues arise over social media.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
How someoney is presenting to.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
The world, who they're talking to, who's sliding into their dms,
asking to see each other's phones. It's these little issues
that are becoming massive issues in the relationship.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
And what's been really really interesting for us is to see.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
The way culture in society has changed reasons for divorce.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
I was talking to James Sexton, who is a New
York divorce attorney, this week, and he said to me
that Apple and iPhones and ye clouds and iPads have
paid for his holiday house.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Because people forget that.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
They're like, you know, they leave the couple watch on
the bed, sidete and go have a shower, and then
a saucy picture comes up from their secretary. Have you
found similar things where people just aren't remembering that technology
holds all their secrets.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Absolutely, Janna, And we live in a day and age
now where technology is taking over and secret slip and
if you get one setting one toggle bar off, you're
getting a missed call on your kid's iPad from your
girlfriends at work, and that can cause massive dramas. So, yes,
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our evidence files on our client's cases do contain multiple
screenshots of those types of matters. Do you find it
easier as a lawyer now that you do have all
this digital footprint to make a case stronger because someone
has whipped out their iPhone during an argument, or they
have got the evidence of someone cheating through text messages
(25:58):
to really kind of go to town on them if.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
You need to.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yes, I find that it is much easier as a
lawyer in this day and age to collate that type
of evidence because it's there, it's.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Black and white.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
But not only that, I also say that we do
need to acknowledge that there are great benefits in our
ability to access this type of technological advancement because of
the fact that we've got apps that can provide clients
with a platform to communicate safely as well if needed,
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and that there are records of that communication in apps
like parenting apps and others like that.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
If you are someone listening right now and you're like, okay,
I need to start the proceedings, what are three things
they should do straight away to begin the divorce procedure
that will put them on the best foot forward.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
The first thing I recommend you do is get your
emotions in check, because you need to be of a
rational mind to enter this process. And quite often do
we find that parties come to see us, of course
in the darkest moments of their lives, but really emotionally charged.
And those emotions aren't going to get you very five.
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You're not thinking straight or hearing the advice that's going
to come to you. Secondly, the advice i'd give people
is that they get their finances in order. My third
piece of advice is this, make sure you fully understand
your legal options, legal costs, and your responsibilities.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
And I've got one more.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
If there are kids involved, always remember their best interests
is what is the primary consideration of the court. The
court don't care about you as a parent. They care
that the child is safe and well taken care of.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Now, just finally it is divorced season.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
So I've heard that, Like, you know, a lot of
people are getting to the end of the year and
they're going, what a hell of a year we've had.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm exhausted. I can't stand you. I don't want to
start next year still in this hot mess.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
So have you noticed a lot of people are starting
to come to you now? I heard the second of
January is the most popular day for people to file
for divorce because they're like, I'm not doing.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Another year of this.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
But are you noticing now people are really warming up
and like you've had an uptake in business.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Oh yeah, I noticed it in the gym when you
see all the new people walk.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
That's so true. That's so true.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Actually a.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Year, everybody's getting ready for summer.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
That could be something going on at home, but yeah, look,
it's unfortunate. But the reality is as we head towards
the end of the year, people are starting to think
exactly that, Jana, I'm not going into another year of
this BS. I'm going in with a fresh slate, and
people are starting to feel more empowered to make those
careerous decisions.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Ireen, thank you so much for coming on saucy secrets
and really dumbing down what can often be a really
complicated and quite traumatic experience. But you know, if anyone
wants to get divorced, you're welcome. This is Saucy Secrets
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me start by saying, I broke into my ex's house
one night, went through his phone, deleted my I call
(30:23):
them chelfies, which were selfies of my chest my babies,
all right, and then I commander ruled out.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's a much nicer way of saying titpic. Isn't it
a chelfie?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I think it's class.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Tit pick.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
But I wrote about this. I did not think this
was a big deal, and then it blew up.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I was writing for news dot com, dot you back then,
and I was like, Oh, what am I going to
write about this week? I was talking to my owner
and I was like, oh, I broke into my ex's
house one.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Time, casually like yeah, I was like maybe that's something.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
She's like, no, no, that's something.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
So I was in a relationship and shit with a guy,
and I would love to say that he was toxic, but.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I think we were both.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Now, your behavior is completely normal here, You're totally fine.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I know you're like Lang, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And we'd broken up, and I was well aware, this
was like ten years ago, that he had a lot
of pictures on my boobs and my proudest asset. They are,
you know, I was blessed with a big set, and
so I'd like to show them off when I'm feeling
particularly horny. And it was two am in the morning,
and I had gone through all the emotions of the breakup,
(31:32):
and I was I cried, I'd got angry. But then
I was like, oh, no, he's got all these pictures,
he's in, he's got michel Fish, he's in a bad mood.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
He might get a bit revenge, ye. And this was
before the laws for revenge porn had come out.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I could just send it and not really getting any
kind of trouble exactly.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
And I just had the fear of God that he
was going to go to the pub the next day,
bitch to everyone about the breakup, and then show them.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
A little goodness.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, And I had this genius idea. I know he's
a deep sleeper. He likes the herbal supplements, if you
know what I mean. And so he was in a
deep sleep.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
This is like a full blown home invasion. While he's
there upstairs in bed.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So I knew that the window wouldn't lock properly.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You went through the window.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, his dog, Axle was there, this beautiful staff and
chit terrier. I pated him. I said, oh, Axel. I
quickly snuck in his room.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Did you wear a balaclava? No, what were you wearing
when you were in all black with a hood? What
were you wearing?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
It's two am in the morning. I think I was
still in my pajamas. I was just one of those
mad moments. I was like, just get up and do
it before you was out. Hopped in my car, drove
to his house and went through his window, patted his dog,
found his phone.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Thank god. This was before the thumb prints or the
face prints, like you.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Knew the pink code or sometimes I didn't even have them.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Then to too too too.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That was it.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So I went into he's hurriedly now changing his pink code.
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, just completely expled what we're going. We know his
dog's name, his phone, pin code, what's his address.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I'm already going to jail.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
It is no just so.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Then I went through his phone, found all the pictures,
deleted them. And here's the tip.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Girls, you don't just delete them, you delete them from
the deleted folder as well. I had no rookie, this
is not my first time, deleted it from that, strutted
on out, went back through the window, drove home, had
the best night sleep of my life.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Great and then you went on, didn't think about it,
put it in an article. Oh my god. The internet
erupted and I had lad Bible reach out and they
wrote a response article about it, and it was this
beautiful guy and he said, I really wanted to take
you to town for doing this and say that you
(33:48):
should be in jail and this is terrible, but he's like, no,
I stand by it. That was a really good decision.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Did the blog ever realize? Oh yeah, that story.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Went viral and he sent me your message going how
dare you? And then there was a bit of backup, Sorry,
what's so?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
The police have just made their way in. Anyway, it's
been nice knowing you. You're off to Long Bay. It's
been really a joyable on that Sheery note we have
reached the end of yet another Saucy Secrets. As always,
you lead a life.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You lead a life.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
I don't realize they do until I see your face
during this entire show and go, oh yeah, you think it's.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Normal, which is the funny part.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Oh yeah, I broke into my ex's house and that's
a totally normal thing, and I'll do it again anyway.
Saucy Secrets live from Maximum Security next weekend.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Don't forget.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
If you're on YouTube like subscribe, share, tell your mates,
and we will talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Hopefully see you next week. So I don't know about you,
but I use chat GPT for everything.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Can I be honest?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, I might be the only person on the planet
that has never used chat shop. I've never used it.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Okay, I give you one afternoon to just play around
with it, and you will never look back.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It's funny because it's now become like a normal part
of most people's lives.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Live therapist and my best friend.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You can get recipes if you want to cook something.
If you don't know how to write an uncomfortable work email,
you can run it through chat chapt like.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
It literally does everything I think it's genius.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
I've used it to text boys, I've used it to
break up with boys, I've used it for everything. But
this Only Fans creator has now brought chat chipet into
the bedroom, right, and I think she's a genius.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So her name is Alex Alex Link, and she's created
an AI version of herself to do some of the
more undesirable jobs that comes with being an Only Fans creator.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So when you say an AI version of her self,
is it just like to chat or is it photos
and videos?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Everything?
Speaker 6 (35:43):
So right, I discovered the other day with Only Fans,
you actually it's not just putting up some saucy pictures
of yourself or doing some kinky videos. You actually to
make money, you have to speak to your fans so
much as I know, it's like having a thousand boyfriends
and they can send you request, so can I have
(36:03):
a video of you sucking your toe?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Can you? And then you send it to them and
you get extra mindy.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
So like, the more personalized the experience with their subscribers,
the more money they're going to make, as opposed to
just oh, here's a new photo gallery of fifteen photos
exactly Trevor wants a photo of a tosuck and Trev's
gonna pay more money for that.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Exact true, and it's such a dog eat dog word.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
But this girl, Alex Link, she's brought AI into it,
so she's created her own AI twin that can constantly
be putting out content, not just her and the stuff
that she doesn't feel comfortable doing, she'll get her AI
twin to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
I'm assuming that this stuff is probably for like creepy
and intense stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, She's like, I don't.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Want to do it and it's creepy, but I do
want your money, So I'm going to get this AI
twin to sub in for me. And then it's kind
of genius because then she's online twenty four to seven,
so she might want to go to bed at nine
pm one night and not send all these saucy texts.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
So it's also like a secretary as opposed to doing
the dirty stuff. She doesn't want to it just replies
to emails.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes exactly, but they saucy emails. So I think she's
a genius.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
She's got two million followers on Instagram, she's got a
huge audience on only fans. I think this girl's going
to last a distance. It got me thinking. I was like, well,
what are some jobs that I would like to.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Give to an AI persona of myself in the bedroom?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Okay, So I threw it out to all my WhatsApp
groups and I said to them, even AI twin of
yourself could do all this stuff you didn't want to
do in the bedroom, what would you get them to do?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
And the responses were hilarious.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
So one of my friends wrote, she can handle the
whole talk dirty bit because honestly, I just run out
of material after five minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
My AI twin can just keep going and going and going.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Have you seen that.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Instagram where it's a girl like making dinner while like
sexting her boyfriend and he's like really in the.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Moment, she's stirring upon going Yes, I want.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
To do that to you. Yeah, do it while she's
making the dinner, whereas your little AI twin can do
that for you. Another said, my AI clone can do
all the morning sex. I'm sorry, but before coffee, forget it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I don't get the one because I love morning sex.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, I'm assuming that AI chatbots don't have like morning
breath either, and they don't have bed hair so they can.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Just get it.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
They're good to go. They're good to go.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Another said, my AI double can take care of the
endless what's your fantasy chit chat?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
She's got a whole script ready to go.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Oh my got Another girl wrote, he can deal with
the fetch me a towel moment I'm while I'm busy
lying stuffish, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
It's so awkward that bit. So yeah, AI can be
like guys, you you cud all over there.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I'll go get the towel, deal with the queen.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Um oh.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
Another girl wrote, let's be real. My AI twin can
take care of the back door request. That's her job,
not mine. Amen's sister, I'll tea what. Sure, you can
go down the path of AI. But it's not real, guys,
t what is real? What's tangible? Hold in your hand.
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I was really hoping they would send us one.
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Speaker 3 (39:44):
It so it's just like you just like a pop
it on your bit and it cools it down and
that or heats it up, depending on what you want.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
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there and the ice really really gets me going personally.
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