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August 13, 2025 • 20 mins

This week, we chat about the disappearance of 'homes that feel like hugs', an Aussie TV personality we haven't seen for a while, health mistakes we made in our youth and TENS machines. Mel shares a great anxiety tip, Monty's eyelids are drooping, and a bit of confusion around two female acting icons with similar sounding names has us in fits. Enjoy!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, three, two, one, Hi everyone, it's show and Tell
the time. It's Monkey and your friend mal to Day.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm going to rate them. I think like he's out
of four. Yeah, sorry, like an old show on TV,
like a vintage show, maybe a Western.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, yeah, Like they remind me of my par those
kind of shows. Like they'd go around there like today
it's a bit of a YACKI day, and you'd go
and the heat would beyond. They'd have heating on their
floor and I'd lay on the floor and part would
watch like a Country and Western or something like that.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's very pricey heating to do, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I know? But god it was delicious. It was so
like under your feet. No one does that anymore, do okay? Nah?
But they used to have that.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
How homes have become more like stuff? Yes, Whereas when
you think of those homes back in the eighties and
early nineties and stuff like your grandparents' house or whatever,
there was something it was like a hug.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
It was a hozy.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's like because everything's now stripped back, it's minimalist. It's
like Scandinavian, which is uncomfortable but looks really cool, like
it's yeah, it just as different than it was then,
because that is exactly what my grandparents house was, a
warm hug.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know what else I want to bring back in homes.
I'm fucking sick and tired of open plan living. Can
I tell y'all bring back rooms?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah? Okay, because it's all the heater. You thinking of
the heating.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, I'm thinking of the No, not that there's no privacy,
but everyone can hear everything. Everything is shit. I don't
want that anymore. I'm sick of it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, the hearing everything does my head in it.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I swear to god.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I got all of the doors in our house changed
to thick doors because I thought it would help. The
sound hasn't helped a thing. Can hear literally everything, Like
from my bedroom, can hear Sam putting down a teaspoon
on the kitchen table. We've got tiles, so I've got
a car that guard the other day to come over
to go, oh can you put cork down? And he
feels all the trials. He's like, oh, I'd have to

(02:16):
rip all of these up. So I'm like, you're joking,
Like nothing's simple, and like I just want silence in
my house. Give me silence.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You could just go to is it Kman stuff? You
know that stuff that they used to put on the
floor like when kids would play it.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Whatever. It's like that the slipping mats.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
This is a temporary solution for.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I just flew oh red and yellow. But speaking of
like a warm hug. My sister messaged me last night
and she's like, I just got a full whiff of
mums oh perfume. She said, I don't know. She said,
you're going to think it's mad. I'm mad, but she's
seeing it in her house by herself. My mum has

(03:00):
been gone this November, it will be five years. And
she said it's a full This smell is so strong.
I said, she has to be there.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
That's so weird.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And she said, I do have a candle on, but
I have had that on, like, you know, sporadically for
weeks and I haven't smelt this. And she's like, this
is so strong that it's mum.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
You have to trust that stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think, dude, don't you like you can't get a cent?
Is very full on smelling.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
The thought, I don't know. We've talked about this so
many times, but it's like the thought that you just
go and then there's nothing like I so believe in that,
and that is, you know, like your sense of smell
is such a big deal, like a lot of people have.
They call it like a holiday fragrance. So you're in
holiday mode, you're going on a holiday. This is when

(03:54):
I use that perfume because.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Give you those commemorians.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, right, yeah, I think it's that same thing. Smell
my dad every now and then. It happens less frequently now,
but it's weird because I can smell his after shave,
but it's so distinct. My dad was a smoker, right,
so it's almost like I can smell the after shave,
but almost with.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
That with the cigarette of tobacco.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, noah. And that's why I'm like, I don't even
doubt it. I'm not a question ruin it with questions.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, exactly him. And I just was like that, So
I said, at least she's keeping herself smelling nice. On
the other side, but my sister's got a lot of
my grandparents and my mum's clothes steal in her cupboard.
And she said, you know, she's gone in smelt them,
and she said the smell's gone now, like after a
while leaves them. But she said this was very distinctively Mum.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm like, oh, how amazing. Jealous? I felt jealous.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Nah, she'll come to you in other ways, I hope.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So my fact, Oh my god, I feel like we
haven't done these for a few times, and we've said
we'd start every podcast the fact. So anyway, Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I saw a meme a while ago and it said,
is there anyone else called Sigourney or is it just her?
Sigourney Weaver? Yes, Oh my god, I've never heard of
that name other than yeah, So I thought, is that
her real name? Sigourney's not her real name, isn't it?
This fucking flowed me. Her name is Susan Alexandra Weaver.

(05:27):
She started going by the name Sigourney at fourteen. It
was a character in The Great Gatsby and she decided,
I mean, that's a ballsy move. At fourteen, everybody.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm now Sigourney.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
She used to live over the road from my dad
in North Melbourne. What is that, Sigourney Weave?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, No, you're thinking of sigarette thought, are you exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Who you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Are there any other cigarettes out there?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know I'm gonna go down such a rabbit
hole with this.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Shear, But Sigourney Weaver, though, my mum used to those
alien movies.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
She used to watch.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Them all the time, so random, but I remember she
definitely saw them at least five times. I'm like, oh
my god, you're watching this bloody alien movie with Sigourney
Weaver again.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I know what Segorne's up to now.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I see her every now and then sort of maybe
statements she's made or whatever she's I think she's about
seventy five. Yeah, okay now, but she's Yeah, she's a
real powerhouse. Also, Sigrid Thornton's name is Sigrid Secred Madaline Thornton.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Mmm. Nice, there you go.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, Scorny weave a lifted.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And over. It used to be such a novelty that
Sicred Thornton lived over the road for my dad.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'd take it, yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
When you're a kid, you'd take any form of celebrity,
do you know what I mean? And because celebrities were
huge then, because no one had Instagram, it was like
they're on TV, which was the hugest thing of all time.
Here's someone you haven't thought of in over a year.
I love Sam and I sometimes play this game, this
one you haven't thought of in about five popped up
occasionally when I'm bored or go on the Daily Mail.

(07:04):
This is very Victorian, So I'm sorry. But Trevor Marmalade,
who used to be the comedian on The Footy Show
years and years ago.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
How problematics that show? Now? When you think back to
the old segments and stuff they used to do, it's terrible. Also,
Sam Newman is guy, He's a terrible person.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And Wayne Carey are always on a podcast together. I'm like,
what a combo with fucked upness?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Like, what.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Ridiculous universe are we living in? Where Wayne Carey pulls
Sam's head in there? I've only seen clips of it,
and I'm like, are you joking me? What do these
animals have to do? I know, before they lose their
jobs or they're disgraced by the public.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's mad, I know, But you know how it was
always Sam Newman was an asshole to everybody, Yes, like
he was very confrontational and just like enjoyed embarrassing people. Yeah,
but he never did it with Trevor Marmalade, and he
used to piss himself at every joke. I don't think
I ever found no offense Trevor, if you're listening, but.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I got it was so terribly unfunny, funny, so hard
though going Like the footy show in Melbourne was huge,
which I'm sure the RL one was in Sydney as well,
but like so trev used to stand behind the bar
and just do these quips, and he was on there
for years and years and then just lost his job.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
I think Hughesy took over, but.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's like he didn't even I don't even think he
went in toured.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I don't know what he did, what happened, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I worry for people like it's like John Black Blackman,
who was on Hey, Hey Saturday, like mister mister Summons,
mister Summers, like he drives ubers. Now it's like it'd
be very very hard going from I think, and he's
got cancer.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't know if he's still driving ubers, but be.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Very hard going from a job like that, or any
job then where you're like, Okay, yes I really pivot here.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You can bet your ass that's on my next lucky
tip's going to be about what happened to Truva.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's too Victorian.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
It's too Victorian.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And how bad was street talk the.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
S where Sam Newman would go out and just because
you'd always want into yeah, areas where there were a
lot of disabled people, very low socioeconomic people, and would
just make fun of them. Oh my god, it was
so bad, horrible, So you said before we got on,

(09:37):
Oh my god, I've got an epic anxiety tip anxiety.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I saw this the other day. Just everything. Anytime I
say I saw this, just assume it was on Instagram. Yeah,
of course, I say, right. So I've been trying to
work through my own stuff and some stuff with one
of my kids, and anyway, it was a woman talking
about a tip that she learnt when her mom was

(10:05):
very sick and her mum was dying of cancer. I
think she said she was about twelve at the time,
and her mum had been in and out of hospital
a lot, and a family friend who was also an oncologist,
had gone to stay the night with this girl, and
she was saying to this friend, I don't think I'm
going to be able to cope, right, which is something

(10:26):
I know that you relate to, the fear of not
being able to deal with it and the anxiety that
built in her at the thought of her mum passing away.
And this is so strange. I'm looking at you right now.
I don't know if you can see it in the monitor.
This is actually so freaky. There is a shot of light,
a line of light coming down into your head right now.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I know, you know a what As soon as I
turned that on the light above me, though, I thought
the same thing. I thought, this looks like it's all light.
I'm so sorry. I just turned on the overhead light.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
So I said, because I know I was thinking, because
before I was like, Oh, that looks really special, and
we're talking about spirits and my sister mum's perfume, and
I'm like, looks like Mum's shining down, but it's not.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's though overheadlight.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
We're so sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Why did you take the romance out of I know? Yes, so,
And what this friend said to her, she said, stuck
with her and she keeps it in her back pocket
every time she feels anxious about something that she's unsure of.
And he said, the version of you is able to
deal with your mum's death hasn't been born yet, so

(11:38):
when you think about things that worry you, or if
you're facing some something in your future you're not sure of,
or how am I going to cope with just that
idea that you've never had to cope with that before,
So of course you don't know. But when it happens,
you will have to cope with it, and that is
when that part of you that has to will come

(11:59):
out and born.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Wow, I love that.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Isn't it a great way of things?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's a really great way.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, it is, like I'm constantly going to have my
back pocket open, going, oh and when am I going
to be born for this?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
When am I going to be born for this? I
know it is.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
It's true because you often think a hat like you know,
same with my mum. I'm like, I'm going to end
up in an institution, like I'm not going to quote,
but I hadn't had to deal with that yet. And
there is a part of you, I think, human nature
that finds a way.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wait, this part of you is born.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Deal.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
It didn't seem as excited about that.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Oh sorry, I'm just thinking because I'm in a really
anxious state at the moment, and I'm like, when you're
in it. It's still very uncomfortable, do you know what
I mean? It's like, yeah, you cope, of course you cope,
but it's very uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's yeah, we're not and we're not used to being
uncomfortable anymore, aren't we.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
No, I don't like being uncomfortable. I do not want
to be uncomfortable. On a side note, because we do
look at each other through these cameras. Yes, I can
see my eyelid really starting to slip quite heavily over
my eyes.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
And I was spoken about this before, but it's fuck
and it's bad.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Julia Morris was very honest about getting her eyelid cut,
and also my friends had one before because it can
start to impinge on your eyesight, so then it's covered
by private health. But otherwise, if you just want it
done because of ascetic reasons, they won't do it for you.

(13:39):
But I just looked and I'm like, jeez, it would
make such a difference to slice a centimeter of that
flappy skin out of my eye, but.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, I wouldn't even notice it. It comes back
to that thing of when you really look at yourself. Yeah,
it's funny, it's like it happens overnight, like you don't
notice it, and then one day you look and go,
hang on, what happened to my eyelids? I know?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
And you know what, next week, I'm going to my
doctor because I haven't tried it for ages botox for
my migraines or they do it all around your head,
all around the top of your skull, down the back
of your neck, everything like that, And I'm like, I
just am hoping that she does it in a way
that then I can go to my botox person and

(14:22):
it really minimizes the cost of what I'm going to
need to get fixed up.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, you'd hope you have thought.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm like, she's gonna got like, if you were a beautiful,
lovely neurologist, you do the whole asthetic thing. I reckon,
wouldn't you as.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Opposed to just the protocol.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
But normally when I get botox, because my forehead's so big,
it's like it's like five hundred plus dollars, where the
one through the neurologist is still going to be like
three hundred or something. But I'm like, I wonder if
then I only have to go and get a few jabs.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
This is a really stupid question. I know, I'm going
to really sound like a bimbo if they do it
all through the top of your skull and stuff, How
does that needle penetrate in there? Is it they have
to find the bits?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
No, they just jub it in and stop it. I
guess it just freezes parts of the nerves or something.
I really don't quite understand how it works. But no,
they don't go like when I get that nerve oblation,
they go deep in to find the nerve. But no,
they just go like not topical. Obviously with botox they
stick it in, but not very very deep. But I

(15:28):
found a friend on Instagram who has chronic migraines and
she's seeing heir and we messaged each other nearly every day.
It's wild, and she got like, has chronic migraines too,
and has just done a catamine infusion for five days
and she's like, she was off her fucking face, but
it made her feel really good. But then three hours

(15:48):
later it came back. Can you imagine how disappointing that
would be? That was the same as when I had
that last look n caine infusion for five days and
then was sick of going home. But you was saying,
how there's this thing, this stimulated like with of whys
that you can put in the back of your skull
and then it's like almost a pacemaker and it's meant

(16:11):
to break the cycle of pain, and they do it
a lot for cluster headaches. But she said her pain
specialist is gonna look into it for her, and so
I'm like, there could be something, There could be something else.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's worth looking into. I'm actually waiting right now. Actually
it might even be sitting at my front door because
my doorbell doesn't ring, so it might have been delivered
on a little tens machine.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yes, I use those when I was having my babies.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Do you think you could use that?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well, they say it can be one of those things.
I used to get something called a Kefley as well,
which is like a tens machine. It's like a headband
and you had to do it two times a day
for twenty minutes. Didn't do anything for me. Nothing does
anything for me. What have you got the tens machine for?
So I have.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I have a hypotonic pelvic floor? Ah?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, your type?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So yeah, like a type pelvic floor. Like I didn't
think that it was an issue. I go into this
in more detail and now. But I didn't think it
was an issue because I don't have like pain that's
associated with it. My pain is more bladder pain, yes,
And anyway, so my phisio is like there's these tens

(17:24):
machines you can get and just when you get into
a spasm or whatever. I try that, and I'm like,
I'll try it. I'm going to try it. My jaw
as well. Are your jaw and your pelvic floor are
so connected?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
The body is wild.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I mean when you do a deep dive up to
your body and you would have done many, it's also
fucking scary. It's terrifying scary.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, because every single thing is connected, and then you
just realize that one tiny thing doesn't work, and then
you're so thrown.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
And you think about I think about all the health
mistakes I've made, like I was a smoker, like some stuff.
I've got a very questionable mark that I'm putting off
going and seeing as specialist for because I'm scared, which
is stupid. But I'm convinced at skin cancer and it's
like all the stuff you do when you're young but

(18:22):
you don't think about because.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You're young, Yeah, catches up with you.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's gonna bite you on the ass later.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I don't need to say it, but you have to
go and get that checked out.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Last time I went, he's like, you've got you know
a couple that look a bit funny. We'll let's take
photos and come back in six weeks. And yeah again,
that was six months ago, so I got to go back.
I just hate the thought of them cut. They often
will just cut them out there or burn them off.
I'm like, I don't know if I've.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Told you this before, but I remember I went to
the GP with Mark before we were even married, and
he had this black mole on his back, and of
course I love barking orders at everybody else that checked
So I went with him and the doctor's like, yeah, nah,
it doesn't look great. Let's just remove it and we'll
get it tested. And Mark's like now, and he goes, yeah,

(19:09):
we'll do it now, buck mate. I was watching it, like,
did you watch eyes? Yeah, he just put local in it.
It was like he was doing it with a blunt scalpel.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
He like, no, don't, because if we have to get
ours out, it's all we're going to think about it.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
No, No, I don't think it's going to be like that.
I don't think you've got it. I said it a
million times to get it out. I looked at it,
and I mean, it's got nothing matters, but he's got
a big char.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
From it.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, Okay, I feel like maybe we should have gone
elsewhere for.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, maybe Cowboy taking out a black mole.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Far out.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Anyway, we'll go and get your stuff checked, y'ael, get
your eyes cut and get your moles checked and do
all of the stuff. Anyway, we're going to get out
of here for today. Thank you you so much for listening.
We do have a Patreon where you get extra stuff.
Mal Deep dived right into the pussoir.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Over there it.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
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Speaker 3 (20:21):
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Speaker 1 (20:22):
But we love that you listen, so thank you.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
We'll chat to you soon.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Love you, Sleep
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