September 10, 2025 • 20 mins
This week, Mel's fact reminds Monty of a terrifying event that recently happened in her home, that ended with a major PPM (Proud Parenting Moment). There’s also the Aussie singer’s son with incredible pipes and Mel’s MUCH less impressive childhood performances. Monty’s son’s school is evacuated for a scary - but vintage - reason, Mel is reminded of an 80’s ad with a very adult moment, and we disagree over whether sucking a dummy as a form of self-regulation beyond the toddler years is ok. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello, It's Show and Tell time. The time of day
you listen to usson we talk about shit, it's Malane Monty.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'd love to know what the most listened to time
of the podcast is, Like, what when do you listen
to us?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
In morning? Yeah? Exactly? Yeah, picking up the kids? Interesting,
isn't it? Everyone would have different times. If you're new
to the podcast, thank you so much for joining us,
And if you're an oldie, thank you. You know what
I love is when I'm here. Thanks even more. I
know because some of you have been there from the beginning.
(00:43):
Sometimes I get that I used to read all the
articles and watch all of the videos on the show
on our website, and I'm like, thanks, that's epic. All right,
Fact us up, fact us up?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now. Oh, this is really unsettling.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
While sound can disrupt our sleep, scent cannot. You can't
rely on your sense of smell to wake you up
in the event of a house fire.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
That's probably why fire alarms are like s chair in
every house.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Actually, you know, I was gonna say the other day
it wasn't it was exactly a year ago, because I
know Mark was overseas I was asleep during the night
the fire alarm went off.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't there was.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I mean, you can imagine. And also I'm a very
light sleeper, so I was like, bags packed.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I bet you were. You were out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But there was. It was just I think there was
something to do with the something malfunctioned, because you know,
they're not like atric They're the ones that are almost
not wired through the house. I don't know what it was,
but anyway, I couldn't figure out how to turn it off.
But the shock, Oh it's hideous. I reckon. It took
years off my life.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's so loud. Do you know we had a little
fire not long ago in our house? Did I tell
you this? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
OK.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So Odie woke up really early and Sam was like,
I'll just lay on the couch with him and the
TV room separate than the kitchen. Yeah, and he said,
go get his iPad so then I can go back
to sleep. He can just watch it. I'll lay on
the couch. So I went out and I grabbed an
iPad and it was pitch black, so I'm like, oh,
that's not his, and I just passed it onto the
(02:21):
bench but put it on the stovetop. And then grabbed
Odie's and took ODI's into Sam anyway. Then Sam like
started to smell something and then the fire alarms go off.
He walks out into the kitchen. It's pitch black, so
the whole fucking kitchen is lit up bright orange. He's like, okay,
(02:46):
And I came running out and what I'd done is
when I'd thrown the iPad on. We've got the old
school electric stove. It had not the knob and the
exact plate, so Arlo's iPad had caught on fire and
basically exploded. It was so scary. I didn't know what
you were meant to do. I ran and grabbed a towel,
and apparently you went to wet the towel and throw
(03:08):
it over it. But the alarms went off and it
was four in the morning. So Paul backs gets up screaming.
But the first thing he did was run straight into
Arlo's room and scoop him up.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh my god, and that is like, that's that's a
parenting moment, that's a that's a proud parenting Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And now he was trying to get out the front
door door. I'm like, it's okay. It's okay like that.
He was in full panic. But the way I said
to Sam, the way our family came together in that crisis,
makes the crisis worthwhile. Like, so all the cupboards were
black and I just used was very lucky. The iPad
(03:49):
was fucked. We had to get a new one and
it was in a plastic cover. So the pollution in
the house, we just opened everything up. Everyone's like, did
you leave, and we were like, where are we going
to go for in the morning. We just tried to
get all the smell out.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I actually can't believe that you're telling me this now.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It was huge.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That is a big thing. It wasmost every day on Texas.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
A huge flame. It was like it was big, but
because it was so dark in there, it lit up
the whole room, so it all looked worse than it
actually was.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But a flame was still doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, And it had like you know, the battery whatever
they lift in batteries or whatever. Yeah, So the fucking
smell was so hectic. But I've never been prouder of backs.
And as you're scooping up Arlo, he was saying, it's okay,
It's gonna be okay, Like Arlo told me that later
and then I hear come over. No one came over.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, no one. No one really cares to do that.
And it's like us, Look, when you hear an alarm
go off in the street, I don't even I just
go fuck, shut that alarm up.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Totally. But it was so loud. I don't reckon our
neighbors heard it because they're so beautiful, and Regg listens
to this, so he is probably shocked that they didn't
even hear it. But it was so it was so scary.
My adrenaline was so hectic. But I just loved how
the kids went. But they were like Odie was literally
you know when someone's so scared their whole body is shaking. Yeah,
(05:21):
like his whole body was shaking. And I'm like, oh
my god. It was terrifying.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I want to just move completely on to something different,
but about another kid, So there we go, there's the link. Anyway,
this kid kept popping up on my Instagram singing with
the most spectacular voice, and I'm like, who is this
little kid? And then I read the name. It's Guy
(05:50):
Sebastian's son, who I don't know how old he would be.
He would maybe ten or something. So his mom Jewels
has started in Instagram account now for him and she
runs it and all he just sings on it. And
I wanted to play a little bit because I'm like,
this is where jeans are so hectic, Like his dad
(06:12):
singing has been completely passed on to him, which should
be fucking rapped, wouldn't you, Like, you know, when it's
like an elite athlete and their kids a bit average
at sport and stuff, you'd be like, they didn't get
that gene. But he got this gene. Anyway, listen, so super.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Bloogoos glue Boo's pretty. It's a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I'm so.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Good.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And that tapping is him like tapping his own beat
on the kitchen bench.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, that's a that's a kid who has it. Like
that's in him, it's in here, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Just in him. You can't even lessons wouldn't teach him that.
I'm just like, oh my god, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I wonder if like, let's say he was just he
wasn't Guy Sebastian's kid, he was just your average kid. Yeah,
how you'd want to show that talent off all the time,
Like totally. When I used to do this is so weird,
Like when you're a kid, used to make up dances
and yes, do them. Yeah, when I was a kid
and I used to do singing lessons. Oh, sometimes people
(07:29):
came over for dinner. I see, don't don't You did
not know? And if I tell you what my go
to do I want to go to song was Oh
my God, when beneath My Wings, which is a very
fucking tricky song, especially when you gets to that fly bit.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Why did your parents not say we won't do that tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
No? No, no, I probably would have asked. I was
pretty like as a kid, Oh, do ballsy.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're way more ballsy than the now.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh now I'm unrecognizable. I think I just had no
before my ridiculously heightened sense of self awareness kicked in. Yes,
I was just like, yeah, I like singing, so for.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
This table full of my parents' friends. I used to
do that with dancers and you just see them zoning
out or chatting. I'd be like, am halfway through it.
I remember we did a lover, Love Lover, You don't
dream me no good, no more? How do you even
dance to that? Can you tell that story? Again about
(08:36):
your singing teacher, Can you sing? Are you all right
at singing?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, I actually can't. Like when I was younger, I
think I could, Like I could sing okay, yeah, okay,
but nothing like any other person probably could if they
tried and they had a few lessons. Okay, but again
it was just another story of the story of my
life being very focused on some thing. Yes, I love it,
(09:01):
And then six weeks later, I don't want to do
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, got it?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Do that? You don't have any sports? I started, like, really, yeah,
it's just over it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, not fair enough. But say about the teacher and
the friend. I just love this.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Story that when I did singing lessons, she would this
is how old I am. She would play the song
on the piano and record it on tape. She would
sing and her voice was incredible. So and then I
would take the tape home and I'd practice it with
her sort of. And I told it in primary school.
(09:37):
Oh you know, I haven't told anyone, but you know,
like I can really sing it. She's like, well, can
sing now, and I'm like, oh no, no, no, here, I'll
put it on the tape. You can listen to the tape.
She's her mouth was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
My gosh, doesn't even sound like you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Sounds like a fool. And I'm like, I think she
was like, oh fucking bullshit. She goes sing now and
I'm like, I can't. I just it's something I can't
in front of other people. The stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The stuff was a kid. Oh my god, it's so funny.
Speaking of kids. Another segue into kids the other day.
So Alo's got a space talk watch, so you can call.
He can call me, like you're programming numbers, they're so great.
So then whoever's numbers are programmed in can call and
text him. So there's not many of us, but he
(10:25):
calls me from school. He's like, Mum, there's an actual
fire being fires And I'm like what, and he.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Said, yeah, just a little bit for this episode.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yet we've got we've all been evacuated, and he said,
the police are here everything. It's not a drill. I'm like,
oh wow, that's a bit exciting, mate. Can you see
like flames and stuff? He's like, no, no, I can't.
And so I think you're going to have to come
and pick me up. And I'm like, well, it's three o'clock.
Just jump on the bus because it's only going to
be another twenty minutes. So he's like all right, and
(10:55):
then he gets home he's like, yeah, it was really
full on, like the whole schools at the front and
the cops were there. Then we get an email.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
A bomb threat. That is so retro. I remember in
primary school we'd get bomb threats quite regularly, like people,
because remember people would prank call a lot. You'd get
prank calls and go planted a bomb and then but
they did it, And I'm like, how long since you've
heard of a school having a bomb threat?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's probably a very irresponsible thing for me to say,
but I don't think we've have to worry about it
with our listeners. But it's actually quite surprising there aren't
more of them that kid that would be thinking, I'm
going to cause some chaos here, fuck up this, you know,
this school's day, Like it's a simple way to cause
a bit of mayhem.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I just wonder, like, and because you can, it's so
easily to track now, but they would have figured out how,
you know, you had to do it without getting caught.
But imagine the ranolin of calling going I've planted a bomb.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh my god, poor Joan the receptionist.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh imagine, imagine getting that cool, mister Bishop, you could
a bomb throat like it would be the most adrenaline
for like the people who got the call and then
making the call of get all the kids out of
the class, let's get this happening.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like, you know, one else is a very retro thing
like that that we haven't seen for a long time, thankfully.
Remember there was a stage of a lot of hostages,
like flight flights being yes, yeah, I think back then,
like even when you think about the seventies and eighties
and stuff, you could just walk onto a plane with
a ticket. There was none of this going through you know.
(12:46):
Now you've got to go through.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Check on and stuff like that. Yeah, because they wouldn't
have I wonder if they would have had a clipboard though,
with names on it and marked off people.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Maybe, But I can say my name's Katie Diamond, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You didn't have to show ID. You still don't have
to show ID when you go through, you know, don't
you know? Because I was running late for a flight
once and I'm like, my my ticket's not coming up
on my phone and She's like, okay, well can you
give me some ID? And I said, I have left it.
They let me on. They shouldn't have let me on. No,
I could be anyone, you could. They don't. Very I've
(13:19):
never been checked for ID besides at one time.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Shit yeah, well they go you know what else? Just
very quickly on nostalgia. I don't know why this came up,
but we were talking about old ads that we used
to watch as a kid, you know, like the you
know Yogo and all those.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
As my sister sent me one the other day.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I want my mister Maydi, what an iconic? What a
simple but that ad is burned into our generation's brain.
Is that the age you were going to say, No,
same line of product though, hpoo. Yeah, the declorae ad.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh yeah, and they were naked in the shower.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well yeah, I mean obviously you couldn't see anything. One
of the women is stroking the bottle like a full
hand job. Really, I never would have noticed it as
obviously as a kid. No, as an adult watching that,
I'm like, what a strange like did they leave? Did
(14:26):
they do that and leave it? In knowing? Like you know,
sometimes when you watch a kid's movie something like this
will go over the kid's head. Yes, for the adults.
But she's literally got the bottle and she's sort of
dancing and she's stroking the bottle.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Who very sexual. It's decorated to a thing I don't
get anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But it also just reminded me. Do you remember pert
someone made a two in one shampoo and conditioner that
actually did the.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Actually were Yeah, it did. It just never worked per
I think for guys it would have worked better, but
for me it was too shampoo heavy, so you still
couldn't get brush through your hair.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Hair was extraw after Yeah, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh my god, that is so fucking true. That is
so funny. Have you heard about this thing?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I saw an article the other day about a lot
of people are starting well, not a lot of people,
I don't know how many, but it was an article
about this thing of people starting to use dummies to
self soothe, and a lot of them they're talking about
people who have ADHD or are on the autism spectrum.
And the article was about how people that are doing
(15:44):
it get quite offended of the thought that it's fetishizing,
like you know, like the baby stuff, you know, like
how people have the kink wanting to wear nappis and
stuff like, yes, yes, so weird. But I did read
it though, and immediately judge, and I thought, right, I
(16:05):
get it. But surely there has to be a point
where you go it's you have to learn to cope
with it in other ways, Like sucking a dummy just
doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, it doesn't seem right because it's linked with babies.
But like I feel like, if Sam got a dummy
and started sucking on it at night, I'd be like,
get the fuck out, this relationship's over. But I feel
for an autistic person, if it really regulates them, then whatever,
I feel like whatever, Like, imagine now when you're really disregulated.
(16:43):
We're both ADHD really disregulated, and maybe five sucks of
a dummy completely regulated you you do it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Pick your fucking fingerskin like I do.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh yeah, there you go. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm just like, but then where does that stop?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, they're at the dummy. I don't find it that
bad at all.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You felt weird seeing a guy eating from a yogurt pouch, Yeah,
if you saw it in real life, a person with
a dummy and also dummies caused a lot of dental
problems to you, TMJ. It makes my jaw saul just
thinking about it. Yeah, sucking on a dummy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't know. I can see how it would be
regulating for some people. I had a friend who sucked
her thumb until she was fifteen years old. He's fifteen,
Well they're fine now, so she might have got dental work.
I didn't asked that, but fifteen is very old to
suck your thumb, like, full on at nighttime, suck your thumb.
It was like a full comforting thing. I don't know.
(17:51):
I think when it comes to autism and ADHD neurodivergency,
I think whatever works to regulate your system. If it
was somebody who was typical, I would be like, you're
a bit fucking weird. And that's where I see the
fetish thing.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think. I think that the goal is to teach
them how to self regulate in another way, because some
things just aren't. Like it's when you say a few
sucks of a dummy, then when does that stop?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's what matter if they're laying in bed sucking on
the dummy.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Hang on, I'm not talking about just in bed. I'm
talking about even out in the wild. And I'm pretty
sure that if one of your kids at fourteen, fifteen,
seventeen started sucking a dummy something about it wouldn't sit
right with you.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
It wouldn't. Of course it wouldn't. But then also if
I saw the reactions of their dysregulation, and I'm like, well,
that's going to help, because it can be quite full
on for an autistic mouthbound and stuff, and I would
like you could fucking shove anything, palm them down.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I think it's like the end goal is trying to
teach them strategies to be able to deal with it
so it's not so distressing, which is so hard and
it takes so much time to learn it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But I'm like, I just feel like it's like there's
fidgets and stuff like that that people use. I just
find like, and maybe it's not maybe the disturbed. Maybe
it could be like a cool kind of dummy, like just.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Like just a big like cock shape something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's so funny. We shall agree to disagree on the
dummy sucking as an adult.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
True.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We're going to get out of here. Everybody. Thank you
so much for listening. We know there are so many
podcasts and for you to take the time to listen
to us is truly very touching and we appreciate it
and we will be back very soon, but back now.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Love you
Speaker 1 (20:00):
There, all lovers,
Hello, It's Show and Tell time. The time of day
you listen to usson we talk about shit, it's Malane Monty.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'd love to know what the most listened to time
of the podcast is, Like, what when do you listen
to us?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
In morning? Yeah? Exactly? Yeah, picking up the kids? Interesting,
isn't it? Everyone would have different times. If you're new
to the podcast, thank you so much for joining us,
And if you're an oldie, thank you. You know what
I love is when I'm here. Thanks even more. I
know because some of you have been there from the beginning.
(00:43):
Sometimes I get that I used to read all the
articles and watch all of the videos on the show
on our website, and I'm like, thanks, that's epic. All right,
Fact us up, fact us up?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Now. Oh, this is really unsettling.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
While sound can disrupt our sleep, scent cannot. You can't
rely on your sense of smell to wake you up
in the event of a house fire.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
That's probably why fire alarms are like s chair in
every house.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Actually, you know, I was gonna say the other day
it wasn't it was exactly a year ago, because I
know Mark was overseas I was asleep during the night
the fire alarm went off.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I don't there was.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I mean, you can imagine. And also I'm a very
light sleeper, so I was like, bags packed.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I bet you were. You were out of there.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
But there was. It was just I think there was
something to do with the something malfunctioned, because you know,
they're not like atric They're the ones that are almost
not wired through the house. I don't know what it was,
but anyway, I couldn't figure out how to turn it off.
But the shock, Oh it's hideous. I reckon. It took
years off my life.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's so loud. Do you know we had a little
fire not long ago in our house? Did I tell
you this? Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
OK.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So Odie woke up really early and Sam was like,
I'll just lay on the couch with him and the
TV room separate than the kitchen. Yeah, and he said,
go get his iPad so then I can go back
to sleep. He can just watch it. I'll lay on
the couch. So I went out and I grabbed an
iPad and it was pitch black, so I'm like, oh,
that's not his, and I just passed it onto the
(02:21):
bench but put it on the stovetop. And then grabbed
Odie's and took ODI's into Sam anyway. Then Sam like
started to smell something and then the fire alarms go off.
He walks out into the kitchen. It's pitch black, so
the whole fucking kitchen is lit up bright orange. He's like, okay,
(02:46):
And I came running out and what I'd done is
when I'd thrown the iPad on. We've got the old
school electric stove. It had not the knob and the
exact plate, so Arlo's iPad had caught on fire and
basically exploded. It was so scary. I didn't know what
you were meant to do. I ran and grabbed a towel,
and apparently you went to wet the towel and throw
(03:08):
it over it. But the alarms went off and it
was four in the morning. So Paul backs gets up screaming.
But the first thing he did was run straight into
Arlo's room and scoop him up.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh my god, and that is like, that's that's a
parenting moment, that's a that's a proud parenting Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And now he was trying to get out the front
door door. I'm like, it's okay. It's okay like that.
He was in full panic. But the way I said
to Sam, the way our family came together in that crisis,
makes the crisis worthwhile. Like, so all the cupboards were
black and I just used was very lucky. The iPad
(03:49):
was fucked. We had to get a new one and
it was in a plastic cover. So the pollution in
the house, we just opened everything up. Everyone's like, did
you leave, and we were like, where are we going
to go for in the morning. We just tried to
get all the smell out.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I actually can't believe that you're telling me this now.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It was huge.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That is a big thing. It wasmost every day on Texas.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
A huge flame. It was like it was big, but
because it was so dark in there, it lit up
the whole room, so it all looked worse than it
actually was.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But a flame was still doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, And it had like you know, the battery whatever
they lift in batteries or whatever. Yeah, So the fucking
smell was so hectic. But I've never been prouder of backs.
And as you're scooping up Arlo, he was saying, it's okay,
It's gonna be okay, Like Arlo told me that later
and then I hear come over. No one came over.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, no one. No one really cares to do that.
And it's like us, Look, when you hear an alarm
go off in the street, I don't even I just
go fuck, shut that alarm up.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Totally. But it was so loud. I don't reckon our
neighbors heard it because they're so beautiful, and Regg listens
to this, so he is probably shocked that they didn't
even hear it. But it was so it was so scary.
My adrenaline was so hectic. But I just loved how
the kids went. But they were like Odie was literally
you know when someone's so scared their whole body is shaking. Yeah,
(05:21):
like his whole body was shaking. And I'm like, oh
my god. It was terrifying.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
But that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I want to just move completely on to something different,
but about another kid, So there we go, there's the link. Anyway,
this kid kept popping up on my Instagram singing with
the most spectacular voice, and I'm like, who is this
little kid? And then I read the name. It's Guy
(05:50):
Sebastian's son, who I don't know how old he would be.
He would maybe ten or something. So his mom Jewels
has started in Instagram account now for him and she
runs it and all he just sings on it. And
I wanted to play a little bit because I'm like,
this is where jeans are so hectic, Like his dad
(06:12):
singing has been completely passed on to him, which should
be fucking rapped, wouldn't you, Like, you know, when it's
like an elite athlete and their kids a bit average
at sport and stuff, you'd be like, they didn't get
that gene. But he got this gene. Anyway, listen, so super.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Bloogoos glue Boo's pretty. It's a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I'm so.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Good.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
And that tapping is him like tapping his own beat
on the kitchen bench.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, that's a that's a kid who has it. Like
that's in him, it's in here, it's.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Just in him. You can't even lessons wouldn't teach him that.
I'm just like, oh my god, that's wild.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I wonder if like, let's say he was just he
wasn't Guy Sebastian's kid, he was just your average kid. Yeah,
how you'd want to show that talent off all the time,
Like totally. When I used to do this is so weird,
Like when you're a kid, used to make up dances
and yes, do them. Yeah, when I was a kid
and I used to do singing lessons. Oh, sometimes people
(07:29):
came over for dinner. I see, don't don't You did
not know? And if I tell you what my go
to do I want to go to song was Oh
my God, when beneath My Wings, which is a very
fucking tricky song, especially when you gets to that fly bit.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Why did your parents not say we won't do that tonight?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
No? No, no, I probably would have asked. I was
pretty like as a kid, Oh, do ballsy.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're way more ballsy than the now.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh now I'm unrecognizable. I think I just had no
before my ridiculously heightened sense of self awareness kicked in. Yes,
I was just like, yeah, I like singing, so for.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
This table full of my parents' friends. I used to
do that with dancers and you just see them zoning
out or chatting. I'd be like, am halfway through it.
I remember we did a lover, Love Lover, You don't
dream me no good, no more? How do you even
dance to that? Can you tell that story? Again about
(08:36):
your singing teacher, Can you sing? Are you all right
at singing?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, I actually can't. Like when I was younger, I
think I could, Like I could sing okay, yeah, okay,
but nothing like any other person probably could if they
tried and they had a few lessons. Okay, but again
it was just another story of the story of my
life being very focused on some thing. Yes, I love it,
(09:01):
And then six weeks later, I don't want to do
that anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, got it?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Do that? You don't have any sports? I started, like, really, yeah,
it's just over it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, not fair enough. But say about the teacher and
the friend. I just love this.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Story that when I did singing lessons, she would this
is how old I am. She would play the song
on the piano and record it on tape. She would
sing and her voice was incredible. So and then I
would take the tape home and I'd practice it with
her sort of. And I told it in primary school.
(09:37):
Oh you know, I haven't told anyone, but you know,
like I can really sing it. She's like, well, can
sing now, and I'm like, oh no, no, no, here, I'll
put it on the tape. You can listen to the tape.
She's her mouth was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
My gosh, doesn't even sound like you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Sounds like a fool. And I'm like, I think she
was like, oh fucking bullshit. She goes sing now and
I'm like, I can't. I just it's something I can't
in front of other people. The stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The stuff was a kid. Oh my god, it's so funny.
Speaking of kids. Another segue into kids the other day.
So Alo's got a space talk watch, so you can call.
He can call me, like you're programming numbers, they're so great.
So then whoever's numbers are programmed in can call and
text him. So there's not many of us, but he
(10:25):
calls me from school. He's like, Mum, there's an actual
fire being fires And I'm like what, and he.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Said, yeah, just a little bit for this episode.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yet we've got we've all been evacuated, and he said,
the police are here everything. It's not a drill. I'm like,
oh wow, that's a bit exciting, mate. Can you see
like flames and stuff? He's like, no, no, I can't.
And so I think you're going to have to come
and pick me up. And I'm like, well, it's three o'clock.
Just jump on the bus because it's only going to
be another twenty minutes. So he's like all right, and
(10:55):
then he gets home he's like, yeah, it was really
full on, like the whole schools at the front and
the cops were there. Then we get an email.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh my god, it was.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
A bomb threat. That is so retro. I remember in
primary school we'd get bomb threats quite regularly, like people,
because remember people would prank call a lot. You'd get
prank calls and go planted a bomb and then but
they did it, And I'm like, how long since you've
heard of a school having a bomb threat?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's probably a very irresponsible thing for me to say,
but I don't think we've have to worry about it
with our listeners. But it's actually quite surprising there aren't
more of them that kid that would be thinking, I'm
going to cause some chaos here, fuck up this, you know,
this school's day, Like it's a simple way to cause
a bit of mayhem.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I just wonder, like, and because you can, it's so
easily to track now, but they would have figured out how,
you know, you had to do it without getting caught.
But imagine the ranolin of calling going I've planted a bomb.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh my god, poor Joan the receptionist.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh imagine, imagine getting that cool, mister Bishop, you could
a bomb throat like it would be the most adrenaline
for like the people who got the call and then
making the call of get all the kids out of
the class, let's get this happening.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Like, you know, one else is a very retro thing
like that that we haven't seen for a long time, thankfully.
Remember there was a stage of a lot of hostages,
like flight flights being yes, yeah, I think back then,
like even when you think about the seventies and eighties
and stuff, you could just walk onto a plane with
a ticket. There was none of this going through you know.
(12:46):
Now you've got to go through.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Check on and stuff like that. Yeah, because they wouldn't
have I wonder if they would have had a clipboard though,
with names on it and marked off people.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Maybe, But I can say my name's Katie Diamond, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You didn't have to show ID. You still don't have
to show ID when you go through, you know, don't
you know? Because I was running late for a flight
once and I'm like, my my ticket's not coming up
on my phone and She's like, okay, well can you
give me some ID? And I said, I have left it.
They let me on. They shouldn't have let me on. No,
I could be anyone, you could. They don't. Very I've
(13:19):
never been checked for ID besides at one time.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Shit yeah, well they go you know what else? Just
very quickly on nostalgia. I don't know why this came up,
but we were talking about old ads that we used
to watch as a kid, you know, like the you
know Yogo and all those.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
As my sister sent me one the other day.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I want my mister Maydi, what an iconic? What a
simple but that ad is burned into our generation's brain.
Is that the age you were going to say, No,
same line of product though, hpoo. Yeah, the declorae ad.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh yeah, and they were naked in the shower.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well yeah, I mean obviously you couldn't see anything. One
of the women is stroking the bottle like a full
hand job. Really, I never would have noticed it as
obviously as a kid. No, as an adult watching that,
I'm like, what a strange like did they leave? Did
(14:26):
they do that and leave it? In knowing? Like you know,
sometimes when you watch a kid's movie something like this
will go over the kid's head. Yes, for the adults.
But she's literally got the bottle and she's sort of
dancing and she's stroking the bottle.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Who very sexual. It's decorated to a thing I don't
get anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But it also just reminded me. Do you remember pert
someone made a two in one shampoo and conditioner that
actually did the.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Actually were Yeah, it did. It just never worked per
I think for guys it would have worked better, but
for me it was too shampoo heavy, so you still
couldn't get brush through your hair.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Hair was extraw after Yeah, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh my god, that is so fucking true. That is
so funny. Have you heard about this thing?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I saw an article the other day about a lot
of people are starting well, not a lot of people,
I don't know how many, but it was an article
about this thing of people starting to use dummies to
self soothe, and a lot of them they're talking about
people who have ADHD or are on the autism spectrum.
And the article was about how people that are doing
(15:44):
it get quite offended of the thought that it's fetishizing,
like you know, like the baby stuff, you know, like
how people have the kink wanting to wear nappis and
stuff like, yes, yes, so weird. But I did read
it though, and immediately judge, and I thought, right, I
(16:05):
get it. But surely there has to be a point
where you go it's you have to learn to cope
with it in other ways, Like sucking a dummy just
doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, it doesn't seem right because it's linked with babies.
But like I feel like, if Sam got a dummy
and started sucking on it at night, I'd be like,
get the fuck out, this relationship's over. But I feel
for an autistic person, if it really regulates them, then whatever,
I feel like whatever, Like, imagine now when you're really disregulated.
(16:43):
We're both ADHD really disregulated, and maybe five sucks of
a dummy completely regulated you you do it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Pick your fucking fingerskin like I do.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh yeah, there you go. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'm just like, but then where does that stop?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Well, they're at the dummy. I don't find it that
bad at all.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
You felt weird seeing a guy eating from a yogurt pouch, Yeah,
if you saw it in real life, a person with
a dummy and also dummies caused a lot of dental
problems to you, TMJ. It makes my jaw saul just
thinking about it. Yeah, sucking on a dummy.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't know. I can see how it would be
regulating for some people. I had a friend who sucked
her thumb until she was fifteen years old. He's fifteen,
Well they're fine now, so she might have got dental work.
I didn't asked that, but fifteen is very old to
suck your thumb, like, full on at nighttime, suck your thumb.
It was like a full comforting thing. I don't know.
(17:51):
I think when it comes to autism and ADHD neurodivergency,
I think whatever works to regulate your system. If it
was somebody who was typical, I would be like, you're
a bit fucking weird. And that's where I see the
fetish thing.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I think. I think that the goal is to teach
them how to self regulate in another way, because some
things just aren't. Like it's when you say a few
sucks of a dummy, then when does that stop?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's what matter if they're laying in bed sucking on
the dummy.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Hang on, I'm not talking about just in bed. I'm
talking about even out in the wild. And I'm pretty
sure that if one of your kids at fourteen, fifteen,
seventeen started sucking a dummy something about it wouldn't sit
right with you.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
It wouldn't. Of course it wouldn't. But then also if
I saw the reactions of their dysregulation, and I'm like, well,
that's going to help, because it can be quite full
on for an autistic mouthbound and stuff, and I would
like you could fucking shove anything, palm them down.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I think it's like the end goal is trying to
teach them strategies to be able to deal with it
so it's not so distressing, which is so hard and
it takes so much time to learn it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But I'm like, I just feel like it's like there's
fidgets and stuff like that that people use. I just
find like, and maybe it's not maybe the disturbed. Maybe
it could be like a cool kind of dummy, like just.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Like just a big like cock shape something like that.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's so funny. We shall agree to disagree on the
dummy sucking as an adult.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
True.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We're going to get out of here. Everybody. Thank you
so much for listening. We know there are so many
podcasts and for you to take the time to listen
to us is truly very touching and we appreciate it
and we will be back very soon, but back now.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Love you
Speaker 1 (20:00):
There, all lovers,
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