December 3, 2025 • 21 mins
This week, it's grey hair, bare feet, answering phones and the invasive nostril assault of a strong-smelling person. There's also a new show that Monty is dying to watch, Wog v Aussie Christmas lunch duties and we ask - has Christmas gone too far? Enjoy. x
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hi, friends, it's now the Monty. This is your podcast.
It's called Shoe and Tell.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello. How are you Monty? Good?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Really good? We were just talking about gray hairs and
minds coming through like thick and fast because I just
want a ballyage and I can't.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They're so annoying because they're so wiry.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, yes, like they are. They're like a pube.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
They're like a pube.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So with yours because you know, when we did that
Barbie thing, yours looked fully gray and I only see
you over over zoom.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So are you going gray or you know, what are
you doing? I'm not going gray, I know, as in
I am gray. I'm like, I think I'm about seventy
percent gray. Wow, naturally right. My mum went gray really
early too. I started putting a bit more blonde through it,
and I like the reason I keep a lot of
the gray in is that I love like that. It's cool,
it's cool toned. Oh, there's no sort of yellow to it.
(01:05):
It's yes, you know, like that sort of but it's
also like a fine line that now I'm like, oh,
I don't actually want to look like I've got gray hair. Yes,
it's the thing. So I'm going to go get some
more blonde put in it, I think, but it's confronting.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, I'm just so used to it that I don't
but I can't see it completely properly to go to
see the difference between blonde or gray. But did you.
I saw Carrie Bitmore posted the other week that there's
a new thing that if you are gray, it's like
a ten minute rinse that you get done at the hairdressers.
And it only works for gray hair, and it literally
(01:43):
takes ten minutes, and it does does your roots. You've
got to ask your hairdresser about this. I'll find it
for you and send it. But Carry is like, this
is a game changer. So she's obviously got quite gray hair,
and her when she went in to get a blow dry,
her hair dresses like you need a rinse. She's like,
I don't have time for this. She's like, this is new,
it'll take ten minutes, and completely got rid of her
(02:05):
grays and was back to blonde.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I messaged my hairdresser and she's like, no, your
hair's brown under there. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, And I also wonder how I think it would
work like Carrie seems to have quite a solid hair color.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think, yes, it is solid hair color solid.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I like it's a bit of dark, a bit of whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Al Right, well, maybe it's not for you anyway. Moving
on to somebody who's got beautiful hair. Isla Fisher's hair
is so great. I love like a natural red head.
That's so beautiful. One of my friends is red head,
and she said that many people come up to her
and tell her that she's a dying breed, like red
hair is getting bred out.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Why.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I don't know, because it's so uncommon, and I
don't think it's Maybe it's not a dominant gene. I
don't know anyway. So the other day I read Isla
Fisher was on one of those talk shows and was
talking about like she's done a movie with Woody Harrelson
from White Man.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Man Got I used.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
To love white Men can't jump anyway. He was saying,
what's the host was saying, what's the worst thing about
Woody Harrelson, And she said, he never ever wears shoes.
All he'll do is wear thongs or slippers. Even if
you're going out to like Noble or something, he'll wear
slippers or or thongs and I just couldn't help it. Go.
(03:23):
Imagine how hectic, his cracked heels would be never wearing
shoes that, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Know, obviously because he's a celebrity, you shouldn't be allowed
to go into a restaurant with no shoes. That's wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, I think some places you're not like in how
some places don't let you wear denimin and yeah, you've
got to have clothes, toe, shoes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Here's the fucking arrogance. Oh, those rules don't apply to me.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, and it's like woody people don't want to eat
their steak and see your crusty nails. Like men's toenails
are so crooked. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I look around the house. We've talked about this before.
I never have shoes on.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
See, I never. I can't handle the feeling of tiles,
the tiles under my feet. I always have my birkenstocks on.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm like, shoes are a shoes are an outdoor activity. Yes, inside,
never have shoes on.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Like one of the worst things is, you know, like
at the races at the end and you see girls
walking around holding their shoes, I'm like, nasty, so bogan.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Do you are you allowed to wear shoes in your house?
Or is yours a no shoe house?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
No? No, no, I would like it to be a
no shoe house. Oh, but it's a shoe house.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It needs I don't like a no shoe house. I
don't like getting to people's doors and then they're like,
I'm like, do you want me to take my shoes off?
And they're like yeah, okay. I'm like, oh no, I
want to.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
See if I had people over, I would never ask
them to take their shoes off, right, But there's something
to me of, like especially when Luca gets home from
school and I think of the toilets, oh the yes,
and he's always like, Mum, you should see the toilets
at school. They're so disgusting. And then in my head
I can hear the sticky sound of the floor.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah. I mean, it's definitely gross, but it's disgusting. It's
so inconvenient not allowing people to wear shoes or not
wearing shoes anyway. Another celebrity who said something about another
celebrity was Kate Hudson when she was filming Fool's Gold.
Remember that was in Australia and it was in Port Douglas,
and I for my mum's weddings stayed in the same
(05:29):
house that she rented. I remember it was like a
big thing, you know, that would have been the agent's
selling line at that moment. So we stayed where Kate
Hudson stayed during filming that. But she said Matthew McConaughey
didn't wear deodorant and she could smell him from a
mile away or natural, she said, and she said she
didn't wear it either. It's smoking hot in Port Douglas.
(05:51):
And as soon as she said that he didn't wear deodorant,
I got that smell of men that don't wear deodorant,
and how pungent it is, like to say she's melting
from a mile away.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm so unsurprised by that. It's a very sounds like
a very Matthew McConaughey thing to do.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I was surprised that she didn't wear it, though disrespectful,
I don't know, like body odor is I reckon, I'm
gonna make my kids completely paranoid.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah. If I even like, I'm like, what's that? Yeah,
someone got boh, I'm like I'd sniff it out a
mile away, and I'm like, it's so intrusive. But I
would argue the same thing for people who over perfume
or over after shave. It's like it should be like
a bit of a yes, what's that? That's nice? You
(06:40):
got a punch in the face, That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is a punch in the face. Sometimes when you
go into there's one like general store near here that
every time I go in there there seems to be
a dude that smells and I walk past him and
I'm like bang, Like my head flips back. I'm like,
you fucking for real. And sometimes they with someone else,
like a wife or something. I'm like, why are you
(07:03):
not telling him? That's on you to tell him that
he absolutely stinks. Paul Arlo gets bad bo and I'm
constantly like put yoda on, like I do, try and
shame him because I don't want him to be that
kid at school that's just known for stinking.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. Nah, nobody wants to be that kid, absolutely, and
no one wants to be Like, don't be the guy
that over goes crazy with the after shave. You should like,
this is what I think you should have to be
close enough to go you smell nice.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't want to smell you from the other side
of the room. That's desperation. Yeah, I don't want to
smell it totally. I stayed.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, I stayed at my step stepsisters the other night though,
and I looked like her, you know, all of her
cosmetics and everything were lined out, and I was like,
oh my god, Izimiagi was there. I said, you still
wear this? She said, yes, that smell. It's a great smell.
Reminds me of C K one and Eternity Well, Kelvin
(08:01):
Klein ohmell good.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, often I prefer Mars after shave to wear
marks after shave. I have one perfume I wear. You
know people have a whole wardrobe. Yeah, I've got one
that I wear.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I've ran out about two years ago and I've never repurchased.
That's weird, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think it's because you think it's just a bottle,
but it's like it's pricey.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They're so expensive. My friend used to work at Mecca,
so I forget that brand, and she used to get
me a discount of those beautiful whatever they were. And
then when she stopped working there, I'm like, I don't
think I need it anymore. And I just so I
don't have a scent like I don't have a signature
scent like Kate Lanebrook smells like rose like every time,
(08:47):
and she gets this rose oil bought in from Persia,
and it's so distinctively her smell that it's like, Oh,
Kate's been in this room. I can smell the rose oil.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm sure when it's good stuff at it's it smells
beautiful like Florally, don't you know florally powdery musky?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, no, no, remember white musk from the body shop.
Fuzzy peach, Fuzzy peach.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I love fuzzy peach.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And I loved the keiwe lip gloss in the and
there was.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I had a strawberry one. Oh god, it was you know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I went for a job there. I did a job
interview and I had to go to a beep interview.
Great job, I was so I so wanted it because
I got out of school and got a job at
a real estate agent doing reception, and I hated it
so much. I was so bad at it. I just
because I hated it that I got called into the
boss's office twice and he was like, you know, like
(09:42):
trying to be nice, but I was so shit at it.
It made me so sick. I hated it that much
with migraines, and my Mum's like, you have to quit.
So I quit that and then went for a job
at the body shop and didn't get it, but then
got a job at Sunglass Hut.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, Sunglasshart would have been good too, but I loved it.
Did you just tell people things looked good on them
even when they didn't, like when they try to Oh,
they looked great on you. I fucking hate when someone.
I hate when I'm trying clothes on and the service
girl comes in and she'll put a headera that looks
great and I'm like, fuck you, it doesn't look you know,
(10:16):
you can see it, does this doesn't look great? And
I'm like, oh yeah, nah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, but I know I totally agree. But god, we
used to get get really good discounts. But I remember
you'd have to pick up the phone and say, got
to have a look Sunglasshart watch station Katie speaking.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh I would have been embarrassed doing that. Yeah. I
would have just still said hello or just Sunglass Heart. Yeah,
I forget.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I worked at a gym once too, and we had
a massive spell when we It was like a long spill,
and then you would end up going, I'm Katie, what's
your name?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh? Something about saying your name, introducing yourself and then
asking what's your name feels embarrassing, harassing for no reason. Embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But I remember when I was younger picking up the
phone saying hello, Katie speaking Is that weird?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah? Mark does that when he answers his mobile and
he doesn't know the number right, because I think he
thinks it could be like a work related thing. And
I'm like, why do you do that? I said, why
do you even answer calls from numbers? I would know
I wouldn't have fun never Ever, if it's important, they'll
leave a message or they'll send a text. That's it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah. I get bothered when they don't leave a voice
memo or something because I'm like, who was that? But
then I also know it wasn't It wasn't worthwhile coming up.
There is a TV show called I'm Glad my Mummy's
Dead Jeanette McCurdy. It's a book, right, It's a book.
It's one of the best books I've ever read. It
(11:48):
was fantastic. So she was mum do so, she was
a Disney star. She was on Sam and I and
some other show. She was on some other show that's
with and then got her own spin off with Ariana Grande.
But she writes it's an autobiography, and I listened to
the audio version and she's reading and it's so fantastic.
(12:10):
Her mum was the biggest stage mom. She was an
actual psychopath. She used to shower her and her brother
when they were really old, like standing there and wash them.
She used to control her. Mum was anorexic and would
restrict her daughter's calories as well when she was really young.
So Janette got hectic eating disorder. Her mum got cancer,
(12:33):
and she used to make them watch this video every
single week. The list goes on and on. It's wild,
but it gives you a little bit of an insight
to how it works at Nickelodeon and stuff like that.
She was abused. She's so so captivating though, because it's
such another world like this full stage mum. But it's
getting made into a TV show and I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That sounds like a bea hard watch.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's such a hard watch. She did a one woman
show on it too, but then COVID started. But god,
it's so everyone needs to listen and do the audiobook
version because you just your jaw drops. At some stages
you're like, oh my god, I can't believe you lived that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know you hear that, and you're like that mum
was unwell.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh she was so well. She was a complete narcissist completely.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Who's again, it's this thing of who's looking out for
those kids?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
No one?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Who is nobody noticing what's happening there? Does that kid
have anyone to confide in to say, my mum's doing
this or whatever? And then you become the breadwinner of
the family.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Exactly same as Demi Levado, which I've spoken about on
a podcast before, bankrolls the whole family. Still like, the
pressure on these kids is huge, but then most of
their mums are the ones that wanted to be famous
and then living it out through their kids.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That title of that book to me is like the
saddest thing ever heard. It's really full on because imagine,
and I understand you would be glad in that case,
but the grief that would come with what a mum
should be.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, and really got ah. God, it's so good anyway,
I can't wait for the show. I don't know who's
doing it or when it's out, but I went. As
soon as I saw that, I'm like, yes, you know,
when you love a book and then they make it
into a TV show, it's just.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
When people go how was it and they go, oh, well, yeah, no,
it was not as good as them, not.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
As good as never as good as the book.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But have you read the book. You have to read it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But I do agree that you have to read the
book before you watch shows. It's always different.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I know before it's a letdown. I would say the reverse.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, nah, because then you've got like I love it
when you read a book and you make up the character,
what the character looks like in your mind and stuff
like that. If you watch the TV show, then you've
got like what I used to love Twilight. Oh and
I had different character in my mind to the actual ones,
but then they lived up to it. Yeah, I love it.
(15:05):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh my god. Well yeah, I'll keep an eye out
for that one. That sounds terrible.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Have you started Christmas shopping yet?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Mate? Why did Christmas start in November? Is what I
want to know why. I think I understand my daughter
fucking loves Christmas. Oh that's so beautiful, right, Yeah, it
annoys me because I'm like, this is a special time
(15:34):
of year. The specialness is that it is this time
of the year. Dragging it out for two months it
takes the specialness away.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, it is a long burn. It should be like
first to December, that's when you meant.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
To put it up this tree.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I will accept that, yes, But it was early November
things were out and I was like, oh my god. Anyway,
so with the Black Friday sales, I like started to
get a lot of stuff, but it's just so expensive
and it's so and as your kids get older because
they want more expensive stuff. But then I feel bad
for them only on unwrapping one or two things on Christmas.
(16:14):
So I'm one of those people that gets all the
knickknack shit things like the landfill. So it looks because
we grew up and my mum would feel a full
Santa Sack for us and it was the best thing
of all time that I want to give my kids that.
But I'm like, oh my god, I can kind of
stop it now because Odie doesn't really know how many
presents you get. And my boys are older, so I'm like,
(16:35):
I can pull back, but then I find myself just
buying shit.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think I get like the landfill thing's important, right
of course it is. But I think of when I
was really young. You know, my parents didn't have a
lot of disposable cash, right neither did. Christmas was such
a big deal because my mum all year would buy
little things and it could have even and being like
a coloring book that you wrap it. Yes, it was
(17:04):
the process of the unwrapping. There were like twelve presents
and you'd wake up in the morning you'd be like,
oh my god, there's so many things, and it's almost
like you didn't care what was in there.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It is the process of looking at them and the
what could it be is almost more exciting than what
it is. And that's the thing. I'll individually wrap everything
so they've got things to unwrap. But I'm just like, oh,
this makes me feel sick the amount of money that
for the one day. And then I don't know, I
know that that's you know, a bit scroogey, but I'm like, oh, man.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't know. I just think if you're like I don't.
I don't think buy shit just for the sake of it,
but I do think, like I know, my kids aren't
overly spoilt during the year my husband had. My husband,
I have an argument every Christmas because every Christmas he
says to me, but why do you have to go
overboard like that? Because he grew up without a heap
(17:57):
of presence. I grew up with a lot of presents. Yes,
you know. And I'm like, because I still hold that
in me. Yeah, yeah, the special We don't spoil them
all the time. So what's wrong with one day, like
say Christmas and Birthday? It be about them and spoiling
them if you can. And it doesn't have to be
super expensive stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
No, I just find it. I'm just like, oh, holy moly,
but it will be beautiful for them to open it
along Christmas Day and make it special. But are you
hosting this year?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, I've only my god, I really never had a
nervous breakdown. Yeah, I think my brother's doing it this year.
But you do that.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Don't take anything when people host, don't you? That to
me is so wild? Is that an Italian thing where
if you're if you are hosting, you put everything on,
like not only that is a bucket load of money,
but so much work and unenjoyable for them.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I think it's like like everyone will still take, like
it's the no one accepts that they'll you know, any
one will take anything. But for example, I'll be like,
I'll just say to my brother, for example, I'll bring like,
let's a trifle, Like I'll bring a cheese platter and
an antipastal platter or something, and I don't know, i'll
make a cake. I'm doing it. That's it. So he's
(19:14):
not asking me for it. But I'll say, I'll just
bring that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And does everyone do that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well amongst our immediate family, yes, yeah, Like so my
sister will do the same thing, my mum will like
my mum will go there and she'll help prepare in
the morning and all that stuff. But I do think
it's in the same way that you look at that
and go, oh my god, it's wild the idea that
the one person does it. I think it's strange. Like
(19:43):
the idea that you go to someone's house and everyone
brings something to me is like so tight us, like
it's so weird. I think it's just how you're raised
but it's that and.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I feel like my mum used to put it on,
but then Nanampa would bring like a trifle or that
to me is so Christmas. But like my Auntie would
bring like she does like duck fat potatoes, so she
would roast them and then bring them along and stuff
like I'll take a salad.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And that's different. I think it's more than allocating, Like okay,
so you do the turkey and you do this, and
you do that. For us, it's like if you're having
it at your house, you're putting it on and then
people are bringing additional stuff. Great, okay, so yours.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Is just add ons, which is almost more annoying because
then there's too much food. Yes see, we would at
Sam's family, we each get allocated something and I like
it because I'm like, great, we're on a fruit clatter
and I know what to take and I know it'll
get eaten. Isn't that so funny?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So I think it's just like a cultural thing. It's
just different.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, all right, Well we're going to get out of here. Friends,
thank you so much for listening to us. If you
can give us a rating or a comment wherever you
listen to our podcast or share it with your friends.
It's so very helpful, but we'll chat to you soon.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Bye for now, love you. I'm not down.
Hi, friends, it's now the Monty. This is your podcast.
It's called Shoe and Tell.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello. How are you Monty? Good?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Really good? We were just talking about gray hairs and
minds coming through like thick and fast because I just
want a ballyage and I can't.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They're so annoying because they're so wiry.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yes, yes, like they are. They're like a pube.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
They're like a pube.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So with yours because you know, when we did that
Barbie thing, yours looked fully gray and I only see
you over over zoom.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So are you going gray or you know, what are
you doing? I'm not going gray, I know, as in
I am gray. I'm like, I think I'm about seventy
percent gray. Wow, naturally right. My mum went gray really
early too. I started putting a bit more blonde through it,
and I like the reason I keep a lot of
the gray in is that I love like that. It's cool,
it's cool toned. Oh, there's no sort of yellow to it.
(01:05):
It's yes, you know, like that sort of but it's
also like a fine line that now I'm like, oh,
I don't actually want to look like I've got gray hair. Yes,
it's the thing. So I'm going to go get some
more blonde put in it, I think, but it's confronting.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, I'm just so used to it that I don't
but I can't see it completely properly to go to
see the difference between blonde or gray. But did you.
I saw Carrie Bitmore posted the other week that there's
a new thing that if you are gray, it's like
a ten minute rinse that you get done at the hairdressers.
And it only works for gray hair, and it literally
(01:43):
takes ten minutes, and it does does your roots. You've
got to ask your hairdresser about this. I'll find it
for you and send it. But Carry is like, this
is a game changer. So she's obviously got quite gray hair,
and her when she went in to get a blow dry,
her hair dresses like you need a rinse. She's like,
I don't have time for this. She's like, this is new,
it'll take ten minutes, and completely got rid of her
(02:05):
grays and was back to blonde.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Shit.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I messaged my hairdresser and she's like, no, your
hair's brown under there. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, And I also wonder how I think it would
work like Carrie seems to have quite a solid hair color.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think, yes, it is solid hair color solid.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I like it's a bit of dark, a bit of whatever.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Al Right, well, maybe it's not for you anyway. Moving
on to somebody who's got beautiful hair. Isla Fisher's hair
is so great. I love like a natural red head.
That's so beautiful. One of my friends is red head,
and she said that many people come up to her
and tell her that she's a dying breed, like red
hair is getting bred out.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Why.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I don't know, because it's so uncommon, and I
don't think it's Maybe it's not a dominant gene. I
don't know anyway. So the other day I read Isla
Fisher was on one of those talk shows and was
talking about like she's done a movie with Woody Harrelson
from White Man.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Man Got I used.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
To love white Men can't jump anyway. He was saying,
what's the host was saying, what's the worst thing about
Woody Harrelson, And she said, he never ever wears shoes.
All he'll do is wear thongs or slippers. Even if
you're going out to like Noble or something, he'll wear
slippers or or thongs and I just couldn't help it. Go.
(03:23):
Imagine how hectic, his cracked heels would be never wearing
shoes that, Like, I.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Know, obviously because he's a celebrity, you shouldn't be allowed
to go into a restaurant with no shoes. That's wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, I think some places you're not like in how
some places don't let you wear denimin and yeah, you've
got to have clothes, toe, shoes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Here's the fucking arrogance. Oh, those rules don't apply to me.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah, and it's like woody people don't want to eat
their steak and see your crusty nails. Like men's toenails
are so crooked. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I look around the house. We've talked about this before.
I never have shoes on.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
See, I never. I can't handle the feeling of tiles,
the tiles under my feet. I always have my birkenstocks on.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm like, shoes are a shoes are an outdoor activity. Yes, inside,
never have shoes on.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Like one of the worst things is, you know, like
at the races at the end and you see girls
walking around holding their shoes, I'm like, nasty, so bogan.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Do you are you allowed to wear shoes in your house?
Or is yours a no shoe house?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
No? No, no, I would like it to be a
no shoe house. Oh, but it's a shoe house.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It needs I don't like a no shoe house. I
don't like getting to people's doors and then they're like,
I'm like, do you want me to take my shoes off?
And they're like yeah, okay. I'm like, oh no, I
want to.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
See if I had people over, I would never ask
them to take their shoes off, right, But there's something
to me of, like especially when Luca gets home from
school and I think of the toilets, oh the yes,
and he's always like, Mum, you should see the toilets
at school. They're so disgusting. And then in my head
I can hear the sticky sound of the floor.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah. I mean, it's definitely gross, but it's disgusting. It's
so inconvenient not allowing people to wear shoes or not
wearing shoes anyway. Another celebrity who said something about another
celebrity was Kate Hudson when she was filming Fool's Gold.
Remember that was in Australia and it was in Port Douglas,
and I for my mum's weddings stayed in the same
(05:29):
house that she rented. I remember it was like a
big thing, you know, that would have been the agent's
selling line at that moment. So we stayed where Kate
Hudson stayed during filming that. But she said Matthew McConaughey
didn't wear deodorant and she could smell him from a
mile away or natural, she said, and she said she
didn't wear it either. It's smoking hot in Port Douglas.
(05:51):
And as soon as she said that he didn't wear deodorant,
I got that smell of men that don't wear deodorant,
and how pungent it is, like to say she's melting
from a mile away.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I'm so unsurprised by that. It's a very sounds like
a very Matthew McConaughey thing to do.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, I was surprised that she didn't wear it, though disrespectful,
I don't know, like body odor is I reckon, I'm
gonna make my kids completely paranoid.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah. If I even like, I'm like, what's that? Yeah,
someone got boh, I'm like I'd sniff it out a
mile away, and I'm like, it's so intrusive. But I
would argue the same thing for people who over perfume
or over after shave. It's like it should be like
a bit of a yes, what's that? That's nice? You
(06:40):
got a punch in the face, That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is a punch in the face. Sometimes when you
go into there's one like general store near here that
every time I go in there there seems to be
a dude that smells and I walk past him and
I'm like bang, Like my head flips back. I'm like,
you fucking for real. And sometimes they with someone else,
like a wife or something. I'm like, why are you
(07:03):
not telling him? That's on you to tell him that
he absolutely stinks. Paul Arlo gets bad bo and I'm
constantly like put yoda on, like I do, try and
shame him because I don't want him to be that
kid at school that's just known for stinking.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. Nah, nobody wants to be that kid, absolutely, and
no one wants to be Like, don't be the guy
that over goes crazy with the after shave. You should like,
this is what I think you should have to be
close enough to go you smell nice.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't want to smell you from the other side
of the room. That's desperation. Yeah, I don't want to
smell it totally. I stayed.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yes, I stayed at my step stepsisters the other night though,
and I looked like her, you know, all of her
cosmetics and everything were lined out, and I was like,
oh my god, Izimiagi was there. I said, you still
wear this? She said, yes, that smell. It's a great smell.
Reminds me of C K one and Eternity Well, Kelvin
(08:01):
Klein ohmell good.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, often I prefer Mars after shave to wear
marks after shave. I have one perfume I wear. You
know people have a whole wardrobe. Yeah, I've got one
that I wear.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I've ran out about two years ago and I've never repurchased.
That's weird, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I think it's because you think it's just a bottle,
but it's like it's pricey.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They're so expensive. My friend used to work at Mecca,
so I forget that brand, and she used to get
me a discount of those beautiful whatever they were. And
then when she stopped working there, I'm like, I don't
think I need it anymore. And I just so I
don't have a scent like I don't have a signature
scent like Kate Lanebrook smells like rose like every time,
(08:47):
and she gets this rose oil bought in from Persia,
and it's so distinctively her smell that it's like, Oh,
Kate's been in this room. I can smell the rose oil.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm sure when it's good stuff at it's it smells
beautiful like Florally, don't you know florally powdery musky?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, no, no, remember white musk from the body shop.
Fuzzy peach, Fuzzy peach.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I love fuzzy peach.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And I loved the keiwe lip gloss in the and
there was.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I had a strawberry one. Oh god, it was you know.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I went for a job there. I did a job
interview and I had to go to a beep interview.
Great job, I was so I so wanted it because
I got out of school and got a job at
a real estate agent doing reception, and I hated it
so much. I was so bad at it. I just
because I hated it that I got called into the
boss's office twice and he was like, you know, like
(09:42):
trying to be nice, but I was so shit at it.
It made me so sick. I hated it that much
with migraines, and my Mum's like, you have to quit.
So I quit that and then went for a job
at the body shop and didn't get it, but then
got a job at Sunglass Hut.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, Sunglasshart would have been good too, but I loved it.
Did you just tell people things looked good on them
even when they didn't, like when they try to Oh,
they looked great on you. I fucking hate when someone.
I hate when I'm trying clothes on and the service
girl comes in and she'll put a headera that looks
great and I'm like, fuck you, it doesn't look you know,
(10:16):
you can see it, does this doesn't look great? And
I'm like, oh yeah, nah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, but I know I totally agree. But god, we
used to get get really good discounts. But I remember
you'd have to pick up the phone and say, got
to have a look Sunglasshart watch station Katie speaking.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh I would have been embarrassed doing that. Yeah. I
would have just still said hello or just Sunglass Heart. Yeah,
I forget.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I worked at a gym once too, and we had
a massive spell when we It was like a long spill,
and then you would end up going, I'm Katie, what's
your name?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh? Something about saying your name, introducing yourself and then
asking what's your name feels embarrassing, harassing for no reason. Embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But I remember when I was younger picking up the
phone saying hello, Katie speaking Is that weird?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah? Mark does that when he answers his mobile and
he doesn't know the number right, because I think he
thinks it could be like a work related thing. And
I'm like, why do you do that? I said, why
do you even answer calls from numbers? I would know
I wouldn't have fun never Ever, if it's important, they'll
leave a message or they'll send a text. That's it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah. I get bothered when they don't leave a voice
memo or something because I'm like, who was that? But
then I also know it wasn't It wasn't worthwhile coming up.
There is a TV show called I'm Glad my Mummy's
Dead Jeanette McCurdy. It's a book, right, It's a book.
It's one of the best books I've ever read. It
(11:48):
was fantastic. So she was mum do so, she was
a Disney star. She was on Sam and I and
some other show. She was on some other show that's
with and then got her own spin off with Ariana Grande.
But she writes it's an autobiography, and I listened to
the audio version and she's reading and it's so fantastic.
(12:10):
Her mum was the biggest stage mom. She was an
actual psychopath. She used to shower her and her brother
when they were really old, like standing there and wash them.
She used to control her. Mum was anorexic and would
restrict her daughter's calories as well when she was really young.
So Janette got hectic eating disorder. Her mum got cancer,
(12:33):
and she used to make them watch this video every
single week. The list goes on and on. It's wild,
but it gives you a little bit of an insight
to how it works at Nickelodeon and stuff like that.
She was abused. She's so so captivating though, because it's
such another world like this full stage mum. But it's
getting made into a TV show and I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That sounds like a bea hard watch.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's such a hard watch. She did a one woman
show on it too, but then COVID started. But god,
it's so everyone needs to listen and do the audiobook
version because you just your jaw drops. At some stages
you're like, oh my god, I can't believe you lived that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know you hear that, and you're like that mum
was unwell.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh she was so well. She was a complete narcissist completely.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Who's again, it's this thing of who's looking out for
those kids?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
No one?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Who is nobody noticing what's happening there? Does that kid
have anyone to confide in to say, my mum's doing
this or whatever? And then you become the breadwinner of
the family.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Exactly same as Demi Levado, which I've spoken about on
a podcast before, bankrolls the whole family. Still like, the
pressure on these kids is huge, but then most of
their mums are the ones that wanted to be famous
and then living it out through their kids.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
That title of that book to me is like the
saddest thing ever heard. It's really full on because imagine,
and I understand you would be glad in that case,
but the grief that would come with what a mum
should be.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, and really got ah. God, it's so good anyway,
I can't wait for the show. I don't know who's
doing it or when it's out, but I went. As
soon as I saw that, I'm like, yes, you know,
when you love a book and then they make it
into a TV show, it's just.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
When people go how was it and they go, oh, well, yeah, no,
it was not as good as them, not.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
As good as never as good as the book.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
But have you read the book. You have to read it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But I do agree that you have to read the
book before you watch shows. It's always different.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I know before it's a letdown. I would say the reverse.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
No, nah, because then you've got like I love it
when you read a book and you make up the character,
what the character looks like in your mind and stuff
like that. If you watch the TV show, then you've
got like what I used to love Twilight. Oh and
I had different character in my mind to the actual ones,
but then they lived up to it. Yeah, I love it.
(15:05):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh my god. Well yeah, I'll keep an eye out
for that one. That sounds terrible.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Have you started Christmas shopping yet?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Mate? Why did Christmas start in November? Is what I
want to know why. I think I understand my daughter
fucking loves Christmas. Oh that's so beautiful, right, Yeah, it
annoys me because I'm like, this is a special time
(15:34):
of year. The specialness is that it is this time
of the year. Dragging it out for two months it
takes the specialness away.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, it is a long burn. It should be like
first to December, that's when you meant.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
To put it up this tree.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I will accept that, yes, But it was early November
things were out and I was like, oh my god. Anyway,
so with the Black Friday sales, I like started to
get a lot of stuff, but it's just so expensive
and it's so and as your kids get older because
they want more expensive stuff. But then I feel bad
for them only on unwrapping one or two things on Christmas.
(16:14):
So I'm one of those people that gets all the
knickknack shit things like the landfill. So it looks because
we grew up and my mum would feel a full
Santa Sack for us and it was the best thing
of all time that I want to give my kids that.
But I'm like, oh my god, I can kind of
stop it now because Odie doesn't really know how many
presents you get. And my boys are older, so I'm like,
(16:35):
I can pull back, but then I find myself just
buying shit.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I think I get like the landfill thing's important, right
of course it is. But I think of when I
was really young. You know, my parents didn't have a
lot of disposable cash, right neither did. Christmas was such
a big deal because my mum all year would buy
little things and it could have even and being like
a coloring book that you wrap it. Yes, it was
(17:04):
the process of the unwrapping. There were like twelve presents
and you'd wake up in the morning you'd be like,
oh my god, there's so many things, and it's almost
like you didn't care what was in there.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It is the process of looking at them and the
what could it be is almost more exciting than what
it is. And that's the thing. I'll individually wrap everything
so they've got things to unwrap. But I'm just like, oh,
this makes me feel sick the amount of money that
for the one day. And then I don't know, I
know that that's you know, a bit scroogey, but I'm like, oh, man.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't know. I just think if you're like I don't.
I don't think buy shit just for the sake of it,
but I do think, like I know, my kids aren't
overly spoilt during the year my husband had. My husband,
I have an argument every Christmas because every Christmas he
says to me, but why do you have to go
overboard like that? Because he grew up without a heap
(17:57):
of presence. I grew up with a lot of presents. Yes,
you know. And I'm like, because I still hold that
in me. Yeah, yeah, the special We don't spoil them
all the time. So what's wrong with one day, like
say Christmas and Birthday? It be about them and spoiling
them if you can. And it doesn't have to be
super expensive stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
No, I just find it. I'm just like, oh, holy moly,
but it will be beautiful for them to open it
along Christmas Day and make it special. But are you
hosting this year?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, I've only my god, I really never had a
nervous breakdown. Yeah, I think my brother's doing it this year.
But you do that.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Don't take anything when people host, don't you? That to
me is so wild? Is that an Italian thing where
if you're if you are hosting, you put everything on,
like not only that is a bucket load of money,
but so much work and unenjoyable for them.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I think it's like like everyone will still take, like
it's the no one accepts that they'll you know, any
one will take anything. But for example, I'll be like,
I'll just say to my brother, for example, I'll bring like,
let's a trifle, Like I'll bring a cheese platter and
an antipastal platter or something, and I don't know, i'll
make a cake. I'm doing it. That's it. So he's
(19:14):
not asking me for it. But I'll say, I'll just
bring that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And does everyone do that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well amongst our immediate family, yes, yeah, Like so my
sister will do the same thing, my mum will like
my mum will go there and she'll help prepare in
the morning and all that stuff. But I do think
it's in the same way that you look at that
and go, oh my god, it's wild the idea that
the one person does it. I think it's strange. Like
(19:43):
the idea that you go to someone's house and everyone
brings something to me is like so tight us, like
it's so weird. I think it's just how you're raised
but it's that and.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I feel like my mum used to put it on,
but then Nanampa would bring like a trifle or that
to me is so Christmas. But like my Auntie would
bring like she does like duck fat potatoes, so she
would roast them and then bring them along and stuff
like I'll take a salad.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And that's different. I think it's more than allocating, Like okay,
so you do the turkey and you do this, and
you do that. For us, it's like if you're having
it at your house, you're putting it on and then
people are bringing additional stuff. Great, okay, so yours.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Is just add ons, which is almost more annoying because
then there's too much food. Yes see, we would at
Sam's family, we each get allocated something and I like
it because I'm like, great, we're on a fruit clatter
and I know what to take and I know it'll
get eaten. Isn't that so funny?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So I think it's just like a cultural thing. It's
just different.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, all right, Well we're going to get out of here. Friends,
thank you so much for listening to us. If you
can give us a rating or a comment wherever you
listen to our podcast or share it with your friends.
It's so very helpful, but we'll chat to you soon.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Bye for now, love you. I'm not down.
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